Is there a reason why guns don’t have the same mythos as swords? Like there are no named guns, but thousand of named swords.
Industrial mass production strips the unique character out of everythingA glock is a glock is a glock, why name them if you cant tell them apart
>>61478469Skill issue
>>61478469A sword is a weapon of a warrior, who hones himself to perfection. A fine art. Like an athlete.A man with a gun is just like a woman with a gun. Just another mook.
Swords were handmade by artisans for royalty and aristocrats. Guns are mass produced for peasant armies.
>>61478469>Like there are no named guns, but thousand of named swords.Name 1,000.
>>61478469guns are mass produced, swords had to be smithed by one dude in a shed hammering away at it for 10 hours
>>61478469Guns are a cowardly way to fight
>>61478469Swords are expensive and historically associated with nobility. While there are cheaper swords that were made for the layman, swords as we think of them in the hands of a knight were commissioned by wealthy landed men to fit them personally. Given they had to be hand crafted for that specific person (to varying levels of actual personalization depending on how rich they were) there's definitely a lot more of a personal aspect to it than a gun has.
>>61478469because the age of myths was over by the time they were invented
>implying that the 1911 .45 ACP isn't mythos incarnated
this thread is fucking retarded
>>61478469because thousand years of culture and traditions dated all the way back to the bronze age, something guns won't have until maybe a hundred thousand years later.
Buffalo Bill had a Springfield trapdoor he named Lucretia Borgia.
>>61478469>no named gunsjust start naming your yourself lmao
>>61478469Jane's gun in firefly was called 'Vera'.Does this count?
>>61478469>Like there are no named gunsThis nigga hasn't seen Romeo + Juliet (1996)
>>61478469There are also thousands upon thousands of named guns anon. It's just that nobody gives a shit when you name a gun.
>>61478609If you built a great big siege cannon, a one of a kind monster, and called it something like "War Bastard", and then leveled somewhere semi famous (Chicago maybe?), then people would care.That would be a famous named gun.
>>61478469individual legendary weapons are exceedingly rare and have been replaced by swag weapons.Swag weapons are usually the recovered arms of impressive hostile personnel such as elite infantry or pilots.
>>61478469Charcoal blued colt guns
Not that many named bows either. I can only think of Failnaught. Projectile weapons just aren't as romantic as swords and spears, OP.
>>61478597Pass my me Longsword!
>>61478494I know a guy who probably can (actually it's in character for him not to bother learning I guess)
>>61478690Unko chan!
>>61478684What are their names? Lemme guess: Dorothy, Rose, and Blanche!
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>>61478469Fascination with times of old, tropes about how life was fantastical in the past, and localized folk myths that were ingrained because they only had like seven stories per village before the invention of mass communication.Anyway the premise is also wrong, because people do attribute fun storytelling tropes about how amazing guns are and how awesome the people who wield them are because of them. 007 has his PPK. Dirty Harry has his revolver. Ash Williams has his boomstick. It's a little different when guns are considered a product of the current era and are more commonplace and we know they are machines, and we live in a more secular era of information plentitude and don't live in an era where fictional stories are considered akin to holy writ.
>>61478469ActuallyHow the fuck did you forget the "PROBLEM SOLVER" OP?You some sort of huge sword fag?
>>61478494Excalibur, Tizona, Durendal, Joyeuse, Kusanagi, Curtana, Szczerbiec.
>>61478469A fancy sword might've belonged to a king, general, noble, or someone otherwise important and would have accompanied them to the field. A fancy handmade gun is pretty much guaranteed to only leave the safe once or twice a year if that and will never be seen on the battlefield, especially today. The only easy example I can think of off the top of my head is Patton's revolvers.
>>61478494The Arizona Sword
>>61478719Dick Justice
>>61478469German big dickus guns>Paris>Dora
>>61478855That's only two names.
>>61478469Think about how many people have made a Mk.18 clone just because of the mythos behind it.People have copied Larry Vickers and Travis Haley rifles before just due to the stories behind them.That sounds pretty mythos to me.
>>61478469Okay OP, what's the name of the sword in the stone?
>>61478469There are a bunch of famous rifles, Jim Corbetts .275 for example.https://www.johnrigbyandco.com/rigby-co-acquires-revered-hunter-jim-corbetts-legendary-275-rigby-rifle/
>>61478885Not OP, but I think it's named Caliburn. Not to be confused with Excalibur which was tossed out of a lake by some lady.
>>61478469Natty Bumppo's killdeer, Sledge Hammer's Susie (German adaptation only)...
>>61478469One aspect is you can change out parts on most firearms, excluding firearms that required fitters of course, so you could end up with a gun with none of the original parts being this holy artifact which kind of ruins the mystique.
>>61478908Caliburn is just an archaic spelling of Excalibur. Depending on the telling, the sword in the stone is sometimes called Excalibur or some variation thereof, but the sword given to Arthur by the Lady in the Lake is always named Excalibur. Some stories try to reconcile this with Excalibur being broken and mended, but in general you have two options: either the name of the sword in the stone has been lost to time (more likely than you'd think, at one point in Le Morte D'arthur, Arthur tells the lady of the lake that he's forgotten the name of the sword and asks her to remind him), or he happens to acquire two different magic swords, that both just happen to have the same name.
>>61478469Naming your OWN sword was always cringeIt'd have to be forged by some legendary dwarf gunsmith who names it
>>61478469counterpoint: there are many named and historied siege guns.
>>61478469History of individual weapons, or so I wager. Swords were often used across generations and/or wielded by individuals of great renown in their time. Today guns have the two pronged issue of short service lives compared to swords (replaced every few decades) and also not tied to an individual or family (issued/owned by military).
>>61478990It ain't a gun if it don't weigh at least 100 pounds.
>>61478469>there are no named gunsTell that to the Peacemaker
>>61478469Not a gun, but Heemeyer's "Killdozer" is a named modern weapon. You just need to do something worthy of myth and legend for your weapon to be mythical and legendary. Also handmade and abnormal as a weapon as well: Heemeyer would be far less famous if he'd just chucked dynamite into the places he hated.
>>61478979>Caliburn is just an archaic spelling of ExcaliburYes but also not necessarily. Roman de Brut, a fairly early version of Arthurian legend, has both Caliborne and Escaliborc in many copies of the tale. Meanwhile, in some variations the Sword in the Stone IS Excalibur, as is the one from the Lake, and they're either different with the same name as you said or Arthur acquired the sword multiple times (even a third time in the midst of a battle!). These days though they're generally considered two separate swords and so it's back to calling one Caliburn and the other Excalibur, because that's simpler for us in the here-and-now. We're dealing with several versions of a very old story, modified and retold centuries ago by various scribes and scholars, and even moreso over the years. It'd be like traveling a thousand years in the future and seeing people argue about which specific version of the Joker's origin story is the most canon.
>>61478496>guns are mass producedSince the last century, absolutely
>>61478469Modern mythology is, like it or not, TV and Videogames. Videogames have a fuck ton of named guns. Fictional guns, but no less so than Excalibur.
>>61478469>Like there are no named gunsThere are. You're just poorly educated.>Among other weapons, I had an extraordinary rifle that carried a half-pound percussion shell—this instrument of torture to the hunter was not sufficiently heavy for the weight of the projectile; it only weighed twenty pounds: thus, with a charge of ten drachms [270 grains] of powder, behind a half-pound shell, the recoil was so terrific, that I spun around like a weathercock in a hurricane. I really dreaded my own rifle, although I had been accustomed to heavy charges of powder, and severe recoil for some years. None of my men could fire it, and it was looked upon with a species of awe, and it was named "Jenna-El-Mootfah" (Child of a Cannon) by the Arabs, which being far too long a name for practice, I christened it the "Baby;" and the scream of this "Baby" loaded with a half-pound shell was always fatal. It was far too severe, and I very seldom fired it, but it is a curious fact, that I never fired a shot with that rifle without bagging: the entire practice, during several years, was confined to about twenty shots. I was afraid to use it; but now and then it was absolutely necessary that it should be cleaned, after months of staying loaded. On such occasions my men had the gratification of firing it, and the explosion was always accompanied by two men falling on their backs (one having propped up the shooter), and the "Baby" flying some yards behind them. This rifle was made by Holland & Holland, of Bond Street, and I could highly recommend it for the Goliath of Gath, but not for the men of A.D. 1866.>—Sir Samuel White Baker, The Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin Of The Nile, p. 138
>>61479271Yup. And there's nothing new about that either. Picrel is a big reason why boomers pay as much as they do for rare Colts and Winchesters.
Because people told bullshit stories back then. People see through your bullshit nowadays and just call you a kike.
>>61479182But in the earliest record of the Arthurian legend, by Geoffrey of Monmouth, the sword is Caliburnus, and there is no reference to an Excalibur.
