Post guns that aren't typical AR/AK pictures. I know a bunch of you have cool shit in the closet and pictures of weird prototypes.
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>>61573461The HAC-7 (my beloved)
>not mine, unfortunately
>>61573474What the hell is going on there?
>>61573461gotta love the classics
>>61573480The .22lr HK rifle made in a similar style, the 270, is sexy as fuck. I wish they still made them; I'd buy a threaded model.
I'm just going to post any and everything out of my saved pics from here and elsewhere.
>>61573461>intermediatesI didn't notice that. So you want stuff in intermediate calibers...let me dig. This might fit depending on which cartridge it's chambered in...
I'm really running out of factory condition guns. What about a supposed half MOA SKS? I wonder if anyone bought it.
I know you said no ARs but what about a prototype (?) 7.62x39 M16 clone made by China with a spike bayonet?
>>61575906I had a model 8 in .35 Remington Cool gun. Fun fact, sanded M14 stripper clips fit the receiver guide and .35rem rims.
>>61573461Does this count?
>>61575999I might have to keep that in mind. I need one eventually but the only one I found off memory was like $800-900 with a stock that had been dicked with by someone and """"repaired"""". I think the tang had an extra hole too lol.
>>61576044No, but it is cool >lever delay blowback 7.62x39Tula design Bureau really was soviet keltec
>>61573461But that's literally the quentessential AR18 action.
>>61577569but its not AR15 action so that's all that matters.
>>61573461Neither AK nor ARKind of a bit of both really
>>61575939In the same lane, an early AR10, designed to take 7.62x39 for a Finnish trial.
Kalashnikov's 'AK-46', an early pattern of his AK rifle for the sub machine gun trials. Featuring a short stroke piston, and a FAL type receiver arrangement. However, the AK bolt and carrier system already is clearly developed.
This was real. This was a thing.
>>61577596A second pattern of the 'AK-46'. Transitioned to using a one piece upper receiver. Which in hindsight would have been a much better idea and put the AK far ahead of its time.Unsure if it had moved to using the traditional long-stroke piston mechanism yet.
>>61577607How the hell do you charge it?
>>61577614I believe at the time it was left hand charging.
>>61577607Bulkin's 'AB-46', which while apparently a bad gun with an unreliable operating mechanism, was the actual material that inspired the final pattern of the AK-47. To save on money and make production more efficient, and make his gun cheaper and more appealing to judges, Kalashnikov re-engineered his AK action, to fit within this 'trench' style reciever system, derived from the 'AB-46'. Fitting his excellent operating mechanism within the general shell.
>>61577605> the CHAD triple barrel barrage vs the incel single barrel trickle
>>61575868>for plucking geese out of low-orbit>for dropping turkey in the next county over
>>61575999>>61575906I'd really like to rechamber one of these for .350 Legend
>>61578543Apparently Metrogun still makes them.
>>61577607Looks like me trying to draw an Ak with my left hand only.
>>61579314Those effectively work as silencers
Considering pic related for a future purchase. I already own an AR in 5.56 and an AK in 7.62. Does the Galil Ace Gen 2 offer any advantages over the AR/AK platforms? Or should I just stick with what I already have?
I have a cabinet full of weird shit.
>>61582454>Taurus UMPHuh.
>>61582272If you don't know why you want it and can't give a reason why you're considering it over any other gun, you probably shouldn't waste the money.
>>61573461Always wanted one of these, too late now in WA though.
My type 81
>>61577624The Tavor style bolt cam is just a bad idea desuHigh friction.Garand style bolt is superior.
>>61573461you can do a lot with a Mini-14
>>61582912Is that .223 or .300? The barrel looks like the .300 model. As silly as the .300 looks with the fat barrel, man I'm tempted but one one seems to review (or get paid to shill) them. It'd be silenced of course, but not having any numbers or even experience with how it sounds and runs silenced, it's a hard sell.
>>61582272It's just an AK with a body kit. Good if you didn't have one, but just buy a SAG chassis or one of those TWS railed covers if you need picatinny on your AK.
>>61573461I've got the perfect caliber for your interesting intermediates right here. Shoots an 85gr faster than 5.56 77gr, same blistic coefficient. Matches 7.62 m80 trajectory, same bolt face only needs a barrel swap. Germans planned to replace 7.92x33 with a 6mm intermediate after the war.
>>61575906Based. I shot my 81 for the first time today. Unfortunately I am experiencing feeding issues. I assume a bad magazine spring
>>61583093If we're doing that, the Russians actually spent a long time studying 5.6mm and 6.5mm caliber intermediates when developing their M43 cartridge. Federov, the maker of the Federov automatic rifle, really pushed hard for a 6.5 mm cartridge. It was mostly just economics that got us the 7.62x39 Reusing the same barrel blanks as the Mosin and SMGs in service was seen a priority. A 5.6x39 cartridge in 1943 would have been insane, though. Light years ahead of time.
>>61583143I know it'd be closer to .220 Russian than the later 5.45, but even still it'd have been a massive improvement over the OTL M43. And bullet designs can be fixed and made more aerodynamic far more easily than calibers being changed.
>>61583143>>61583171I like the straight stock with a foregrip aesthetic. Also the .220 is the parent case for 6.5 grendel.
>>61583220Not intermediate, but Federov did have a 6.5 mm full power battle rifle cartridge for that gun he wanted to use. Basically identical to 6.5 Creedmore. 130gr at 2800FPS.
>>61583038mine is indeed a .300no idea how it performs suppressed, never tried it with a can and only put supers through it anyway
>>61583348Damn. But it's at least reliable? If so there's at least one data point I haven't gotten until now; no one seems to own a .300 mini. It seems silly to silence it but damn every time I pick up a mini at the gun store it feels so short and handy, like a really good hunting gun even though I do own an AR. What's the accuracy like? I know you're using a dot and magnifier instead of a big ass scope but still, more data more better.
>>61583386it works as well as you'd expect for a $1k MSRP firearm, no issues with feeding rounds or falling apart. the mags will be very stiff if they're brand new but firing a box of ammo through them will smooth them out fast.the accuracy at magnifier ranges gets a little wonky, but I think it's mostly due to my choice of 150gr ammo. when these run dry I'm going to try 110gr and expect that the added velocity will shrink the grouping a fair deal.
>>61573472>MK23>HK93 (even if clone)HNNNNNNFFFF
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>>61573480What is that?
>>61586307HK SL7
>>61573461It's not that cool, but I'm enjoying my JAKL.
forgot my pic.
i'm expecting the first run of these to be hot dotshit
>>61588093Man, I hope they get them right though, that would be kinda fun to build out. >>61587508Comfy, ACR style stocks on guns is a good trend and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>61589547That's pretty much why I got it. I deeply regret selling my bushmaster ACR. It scratches that itch almost as well though. Maybe more if new aftermarket becomes available.
>>61573461this is significantly gayer than an ar, because you did all that just to shoot .22
>>61588093no no no nowtf is that lowerjust make hk33 mags ffs
>>61589612I may be wrong, but at that point, does that make it an HK41?
It’s stupid picky on ammo, and the worst gun I have ever owned to field strip and clean but I still love it bros
>>61589680What kind of ammo does it like? I was looking at getting one eventually.
>>61589686It will not cycle 223 or steel. Only 556 brass
>>61577573What's this? Can't read the markings
>>61589716I mean yeah that’s pretty normal for a roller delayed gun, some will cycle that stuff, a lot won’t.
>>61589680And I still have one cut up in pieces waiting to be built. IDK why I bought a kit instead of a Marcolmar or whichever the other company is that makes them but I was afraid original parts would dry up before I had $1k to grab one pre-built (and that the color of the paint might be off). Interesting design.
>>61589730Dafuq? It depends on if the barrel is fluted or not. Roller delayed with fluted barrels eat and spit out anything.
>>61590798Fluted chambers tard.
>>61573461My ARX 100 that I picked up from a pawnshop for 900
>>61592055Fuck that's cool, what's it like to shoot?
>>61589612Non-AR mags in 2024 is a no-go bro.
>>61579314>>61575868JFC imagine the barrel sag on that mfer.>>61582454how the hell did you get your hands on that anon?
>>61582628>>61595419It's a Taurus ct9-g2. They're cheap as shit in the states since nobody wants them. Taurus stopped importing them over a decade ago when they lost out on the PCC craze and didn't import a pistol version. Most of the original ten rounder mags are all broken. The plastic caps on the mags are brittle and all shattered from just age. Because of all of that, think I got it for $199 originally. Guns without working mags and nowhere to obtain original mags are cheap.Can convert them with a lot of AR parts and AK stock or AK stock adapter. All the conversion parts are just take off USA made parts from AKs and ARs from parts I had laying around. Can open up and modify magwell to take cz26 mags and those are only $5 a pop.
>>61595715Huh that's cool as shit, had no idea.I don't remember seeing them before, even as a kid(turning 30 this year fuck me).
>>61595741Two years ago they could be found with a little effort. Apparently these are unobtanium now. Only found two on fuddbroker for $650-700 unconverted. Couldn't even find one on several states firearms sites. It's a $199-299 gun and that's it. Fun as tits, but takes a lot of time and measurement to convert. Only get them if they're cheap.
>>61596028thanks for the advice anon, if I went that route I'd probably just get a scorpion anyways for a smallplatform to suppress.But if I ever find one for like 275-350 I might snag it.
>>61595715Sad most the nicer/weirder looking stuff died off now. Pcc market has like 3 different looks now it feels like.
>>61596139kusa is gone now. Removes one of the 9mm AK.MP5 are $1000 guns now, willing to lose kusa for that gain.
>>61586307>>61586446It's actually a SL6, the SL7 is in 7,62x51.
>>61595715For that price I'm almost tempted to get one over a Hi-Point. But having to make mags work would be silly. As well as needing to thread the barrel somehow. But I wonder if I couldn't just make some replacement baseplates; I'm pretty handy if I have the need to be.
>>61596028>>61597095fuck. i hate when guns with zero parts availability and a severe lack of a specific part that's often missing/broken get arbitrarily decided as "the new hot shit" randomly.
>>61597106I have no idea why it's $650+ now. I don't see any osy shilling them. I see Ian did a forgotten weapons video on them a few years back. It's really not that great and if it breaks, not going to find parts for it since it's been discontinued for over ten years. At $199-299 they're fun and make sense as just something to sling around until it breaks.
>>61592055Get the extended charging and the rail adapter for the bottom. Worth upgrades before Beretta decides to arbitrarily discontinue those
>>61596194I was more of a cx4 person than an mp5 person. Kusa dying is funny for me because of all the cope from people who over payed and constantly defending that company. They went years telling people ak101 from psa would be worthless as soon as the kusa 101 would come out. Then theres the micro9.
>>61589612Right. If I wanted a fucked up looking HK clone I'd buy a ptr32.I want a proper hk33 looking gun.
>>61588093>All of this ree-ing over the PTR 63 2 days laterI hate "but muh needs to take PMags/Glock mags and AR pistol grips" as much as anyone else but I don't think it was ever meant to be an HK33. Real question is if it has a forward assist...https://armourersbench.com/2019/01/20/heckler-koch-g41/
