Captured Chinese Soldiers beg for their lives thinking that they are going to be executed, Korea 1951
>>61582296China looking very number two, if you know what I mean.
>>61582465Sure it did chang
Imagine shilling for chinks.
>>61582465And now Best Korea is a thorn in China's side.
>>61582509>original goal of capturing the south>failed to do so desoute the advantage in numbers
>>61582296>"You're not gonna be executed, but you do have to eat all the eggs"
>>61582296they probably should have but also that's what winning looks like.
>>61582509https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_installations_in_South_Korea
>>61582509Imao. I see South Korea there
>>61582545They probably got sent back to China, which would have been worse. Not dying for Mao is treason against the revolution.
>>61582482Not a chink, but it literally did. This isn't even cope, it's flat out reality denial
Are we really at the point where we just deny reality just to “make the vatniks seethe”? This is legitimate psychotic behavior.Jesus, have some self respect, you make us look like fools.
Korea is a lesson on the criticality of leadership. The CCP leadership really didn’t want to go into Korea and they resisted doing so; it was only Mao’s uncontested authority at the time which made it happen. The lowest-common-denominator, bureaucratic thinking was the adventure was terribly risky and could easily end in disaster due to many very good reasons. But, Mao was a true leader and forced the Party to follow his lead — and, thus, victory was his. Yes it was foolishly risky and even if they succeeded, there would be no way China at the time could seriously face the U.S. in a larger war in Korea. But Mao was a leader: he read the situation correctly, trusted in his judgement and made it happen pushing through the resistance. Yeah sure the PLA got savaged BUT Mao got a win — not a total win or great victory, but much more than China would have otherwise suffered. PLA is a peasant army, and Chinese peasants are a disposable commodity so burning through them to get a win against the odds was completely worth it.Could have Mao eaten an L? Yes, easily — if the U.S. had a better general in charge there may not even be a North Korea today. But fortune DOES favor the bold and the W materialized because Mao was a leader.
>>61582747The chinese's goal was to aid north korea in taking the south. They failed to do so despite the numbers.
>>61582892>China's mission accomplish>south korea still exist
>>61582296If they got captured by the South Koreans, that was very possible.Rhee's guys were not noted for their warm dispositions, or discipline.
>>61582857A reminder: Mao's oldest son got french-fried in a napalm strike. "Win" might be stretching the definition,
>>61582296>You can tell a lot about a person's character by how they treat people they don't have to treat well.
>>61583040>so you telling me an egg fried this rice?
>>61582465how many chinese soldiers died to save North Korea?
Most of the “volunteer” soldiers were ex-KMT captives. I don’t know why /k/ikes have to be so mean.
>>61582296This is after they were told they would be repatriated, they begged for mercy and the bullet.
>>61583248>literally upside-down historylol lmao even Chigna is pathetic
>>61582296Tbf I think the South Koreans were ruthless so I'd be kowtowing too 2bh.
>>61583248>their goal was to maintain the buffer not help North Korea in its aims. Mission accomplished.initial chinese goal was to push the allied forces out of korea completelythey were just willing to accept the continued existence of north korea as enough of a compromise to claim victory after it became clear they were not able to destroy allied forces once they had set up a defensive line at the 38th
>>61582925>The chinese's goal was to aid north korea in taking the south.Nope. You're retarded and most likely a mutt.
>>61583524>mutt But I am not chinese. Also, China's goal was to drive out allied forces out of korea. That failed.
>>61583379>Implying there isn't a million threads if a single US soldier dies from anything at all that might be considered US being weak if you do some mental gymnastics This is 4chin my Asian friend, anons make fun of everyone here. If you can't handle the bantz fuck off.
>>61583248>their goal was to maintain the buffer not help North Korea in its aimsNope. They attempted to invade South Korea and reunify the peninsula but a UN counter attack pushed them back to the current border, where it then became a stalemate.
>>61582296South Korea today is exactly the same as Best Korea is just with different flavors. >North Koreans worship Dear Leader daddy>South Koreans worship Samsung to the same delusional level
>>61583379>can't handle the banterL-Mao go back behind the great firewall safe space before you lose some social credits Chang
>>61583685>Became a stalemate Funny way to say "US military was ordered to stop advancing".
>>61583379i served and make 9/11 jokes and dead soldier jokes all the time, i miss the internet of the late 90s
>>61583693south korea is also a developed nation with modern conveniences and a high standard of living while north korea is still medieval-standards of living anywhere outside pyongyang, and 20th century soviet standards of living in pyongyang, just with smartphones
>>61583379Do you think we are incapable of making self deprecating jokes? This isn't china my dude.
>>61582747China's stated and express goals was the destruction of UN forces in Northern Korea. It failed spectacularly, not only did they fail to destroy forces that they had totally surrounded, but UN forces breaking out from encirclement completely destroyed some of the finest divisions in the Chinese army. This resulted in them being completely unable to pursue the UN forces in any meaningful way and rendered all of their planned follow-up operations moot, resulting in new operational timetables being made. Also, UN forces later counter-attacked and (yet again) inflicted a string of brutal defeats on Chinese forces >>61582747>the South was never a goal! Spring Offensive (another spectacular failure) says otherwisehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_spring_offensive>700 000 Chinese >418 000 UN >90 000 Chinese casualties (Chinese source), 110-160 000 (UN)>15 000 UN casualties (mostly Korean, only 1200 US casualties) Let me be clear: There is no bigger cope than revisionists trying to paint Korea as anything other than a bloody fiasco for China.
>>61582892north korea literally exists right now. so... yea. China: mission accomplished.the UNSC resolution was to protect the south, not eradicate the north. meanwhile chinas stated goal was help the north reunite the peninsula by conquering the south. so not only did the US win by their own metric, but china lost by theirs.
>>61583810North Korea is having the same demographic issues, your boy Kim told them to fuck more. Its a global thing.
>>61582747This literally is, without any exaggeration, exactly what Mao Zedong ordered the PLA to do.Obviously no surprise since it is just another continuation of the PLA losing every single war it has ever engaged in outside of China's own borders.
>>61583896>The chinksTheirs is literally the worst demographic problem on the planet besides japan and maybe worst korea. They are not breeding and are definitely not recovering from the one-child policy either.
>>61583896Bro what. India will be below replacement in only a few years they’re floating at like 2.1 kids per couple. African countries birth rates are slowing down but will probably be wildly high even at the end of our lifetimes
/k/ photos thread? allow me>Prisoners lie on the ground before execution by South Korean troops near Daejon, South Korea, July 1950. Photo by U.S. Army Maj. Abbott
>South Korean soldiers walk among bodies of South Korean political prisoners shot near Daejon, South Korea, July 1950. Photo by U.S. Army Major Abbott
>The Geochang massacre (Korean: 거창 양민학살 사건,[3][4] Hanja: 居昌良民虐殺事件) was a massacre conducted by the third battalion of the 9th regiment of the 11th Division of the South Korean Army between 9 February 1951 and 11 February 1951 of 719 unarmed citizens in Geochang, South Gyeongsang district of South Korea.[1][5][6] The victims included 385 children.[1] The 11th Division also conducted the Sancheong-Hamyang massacre two days earlier. The general commanding the division was Choe Deok-sin.[7]
>>61584012>>61584008 BASED!
>>61582465what do taiwan, japan and worst korea have in common?-wealth-food / environment / work places that doesnt kill you-freedom-moar freedom-murica protects-no communism-kinda nice livewhat have the commie shitholes to offer:-poverty-serfdom-parasites-corruption plus ultra-china pissing off everyone around it and inside it-life so shitty they have to make it a crime to leave the country to stop mass emgrationhonestly, I'd take the yanks over the chinks/commies if I wouldnt already live in white mans semi-paradise.
>>61584057How's Argentina now?
>>61582465Eisenhower was going to widen the war directly to China using anthrax "because there are too many of them". Sending your Taiwan invasion force to die like pigs with no supplies to incentivize suicidal frontal assaults en masse at the behest of Stalin -- whom was only waiting around to gauge Western response and launch his own attempt on taking Europe -- is nothing to brag about. Norks & Chinamen Reds had their bacon saved in Washington with a gigantic 5th column that managed to prevent the bridges across the Yalu being struck, not by anything remotely looking like competitive or comparable operational art & maneuver warfare.
>>61583379ching chong ding dongchinese whores in the west offer best sevice, anal included.
>>61584088>Norks & Chinamen Reds had their bacon saved in Washington with a gigantic 5th columnAll according to Sun Tzu. If your government system is so fragile that a couple of bribes can make you loose your wars, then you should consider staying at your bitch continent.
>>61583778>>61583870Did he actually order that over the objection of his PLA general who was begging to turn back?
>>61584088you're saying that politicians backstabbed the military?
>>61582296No that's a picture of them being told the war is over and they'll be sent back to China.
>>61584071better than venezuela, cuba, bolivia.and better than norks, laos, vietnam, cambodgia and large parts of (esp. rural) china.i mean, they are completely electrified.
>>61584102fuck off, whores in the east are far better.whores in the west are stuck up.
>>61583778they lost the capital of Korea, Kaesong.
>>61582747Yes it was.
I'm going to enjoy when people warp their heads into pretzel gymnastics to say that we won Iraq or Afghanistan. Hell you still have that McDonalds in Vietnam meme.You could say that Korea was a stalemate, which is recognized in the international community to this day with the DMZ still existing, or that the UN and not the US was fought to a stalemate, but fucking Christ there's a reason why McArthur wanted to go with the nuclear option because we couldn't hold back the chinks.
>>61584394>anon deflecting towards irrelevant shit>still coping about the chinese moving goal post to save faceNot sure why you include iraq, but both Afghanistan and iraq were operational successes. The chinese, though, wanted to take over the south and failed spectacularly despite outnumbering and having every single advantages. They LITERALLY got forced out of south korea.
>>61584394>muh iraqWhy the fuck are you people trying to make iraq as a complete loss? Whats with this historical revisionism?
>>61584394>You could say that Korea was a stalematestatus quo antebellum that can be construed as a victory for all parties involved except north koreachina maintains a buffer zone against the western allies, south korea still exists, but north korea failed to make any strategic gains
>>61584405Because OIF and OEF were the newest and it's just the dumbest shit hearing losers taking pride in losing, like some the south will rise again cope.We fought to a standstill. Korea has a North and a South. It's that simple, and to deny it is to deny reality.
>>61584411what tangible benefits did invading Iraq produce? Some new military bases?
>>61584424Are you fucking stupid? OIF was a success and OEF(2001-2014)was a success too. For Afghanistan, you're talking about operation enduring sentinel, which is a follow up operation after OEF been concluded. OIF was a complete victory. No questions ask.
>>61584424>We fought to a standstill.US deployed troops in south korea with the stated and explicit goal of preventing it from capitulatingso the destruction of the north korean army is an unambiguous strategic victoryre-unification was only a stated goal after they had already pushed back NK forces past the 38th, but this does not change the fact that they had already essentially won the war by then as there was no more risk of SK fallingthe chinese failure to break past the 38th is still a strategic victory despite the outcome being a ceasefire since south korea still exists as a sovereign nation
>>61584008I guess they didnt have enough spare helicopters back then
>>61584429>muh benefits The original goal was to>remove saddam>establish more footing in the middle east than just Israel>destroy an active WMD program, which did not happen aside from finding stashes of chemical weapons. There was a fear that saddam was in talks with some terror groups in regards to WMDs tooOverall, we achieved 2 out of three of those goals. The U.S. has a foothold in iraq and Syria and they removed saddam, who was a pain in the ass.
>>61584424>OIF>lossYou're fucking stupid. Stop believing in iranian bullshit
>>61584431lol, and this is what I was expecting. Holy shit, you just can't help yourself.>>61584438The norks control nork, the fuck else is there?I'm done with you retarded fuckers.
>>61584452>The norks control nork, the fuck else is there?NK goal was to re-unify korea, which was the purpose of crossing the 38th in the first placethey are pretty much the only losers in the conflict, since they actually lost a tiny amount of land they accomplished 0 strategic or operational goals at massive cost to their army and civilian infrastructure
>>61584452>lol, and this is what I was expecting. Holy shit, you just can't help yourself.Not an argument, retardo. OEF has been concluded in 2014 after the U.S. reached its operational goal. Enduring sentinel was a failure because we failed to make the Afghan government stand on its own.OIF was a victory no matter how you spin it. Regardless of the results it produced, it was an operational victory. Your cope is the same shit you said earlier about "McDonalds" in Vietnam.
>>61584459Here ya go, buddy.
>>61584469NTA, but the UNs original goal was to prevent the south from falling. The whole UN intervention started in response to North Korea's invasion of the south. North korea/china had the goal of reunification. Stop with this revisionism
>>61584469>I couldn't help myself to come back, but are you saying the UN goal wasn't also to unify Korea?their stated goal was to prevent the capitulation of south korea, re-unificationreunification was not considered until after they had already crossed the 38th and were pursuing the remnants of the NK army there, making it more of a very convenient thingbut that doesnt change the fact that they deployed with the overt and explicit declaration of their intent of being in SK in the first place to prevent SK from being overrun
>>61584469>>61584475>retard doesn't know about the UN resolution not only you're making retarded shit about OIF, you're also historically illiterate
>>61584480Some diplomat making a statement and us sending tanks, aircraft, and infantrymen to topple their regime all the way up to exile across the border speaks very differently. Don't play stupid.
>>61584469nta, but are you saying that once the US reached the old border they should have just given up the initiative and let the Norks regroup to attack again?
>>61584491The original goal was to prevent the south from falling. Whatever happens after that is not part of the original goal. Stop being obtuse
>>61584498Literally explaining moving goalposts...
>>61584469Based retardhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_84#:~:text=The%20United%20Nations%20Security%20Council,outbreak%20of%20the%20Korean%20War.
>>61584501>moving goal postReunification of korea was originally the goal of north korea. The UN doesn't have that goal in their resolution. The reunification of korea was considered something extra.
>>61584495Personally I liked the cobalt barrier option to show we weren't fucking around. But it is what it is.
>>61584514The UN was a fledgling League of Nations ripoff that let daddy US take the helm, and our goal was to kill 'em all and take the country. Words and actions are completely different things.
>>61582465>>61582509>>61582747Reminder that American artillery turned Mao's only son into hamburger meat.
Neither of you won. Okay? Neither of you wanted the country split in half. You both lost some and won some. Shut the fuck up already
>>61582465>China successfully drove the US out of North KoreaMost of it. The SoKor territory grew after the war.
>>61582545They unironically won if they weren't sent back as part of prisoner exchange.
>>61583693Both Korea's birth rates are also in the gutter. It's just weird
>>61582465Reminder to eat egg fried rice on 25 November to commemorate the barbecuing of that communist piece of shit.
>>61584578meant for >>61584533
>>61582769the "sure it did" is because China's objective in their intervention was clearly not just to secure north korea but to overrun the south as wellafter they failed to do this they got bootyblasted back to the current border
>>61584533>>61584578The Chinese should be fucking grateful. I'm pretty sure Mao would have set up a North Korea style hereditary monarchy if he had been able to.
>>61584609>China's objective in their intervention was clearly not just to secure north korea but to overrun the south as wellThat doesn't change the fact that they drov UN forces out of the north. You're trying to hard to not give the chinkposter a W, which I understand, but take it too far and you just look like an idiot
>>61583040>Mao's oldest son got french-fried in a napalm strike.LMao
>>61584459>OIF was a victory no matter how you spin it.Not him, but you are a massive retard. https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/wars-conflicts-and-operations/middle-east/operation-iraqi-freedom.html
>>61584673It's like the retards who insist Vietnam was a W because of the k/d ratio. Some extremely low-iq niggers have their egos tied into it and treat it like a sport
>>61584673>ISIS>only appear after OIF ended
>>61584684By that logic, isn't Vietnam still a w because they still got into U.S. influence anyways?
>>61584693No, because the communists took over, which is exactly what the war was intended to prevent. Why am I responding to this like it's a serious question
>>61584690>The JV team appeared out of thin air>No one could have predicted their appearance
>>61584707But they still got within U.S. spear of influence
>>61584714>But they still got within U.S. spear of influence>spear of influenceI'm not the anon you replied to, but I seriously hope you are phone posting. Also you are wrong. The stated goal of the Vietnam War was to stop the communist take over of Vietnam, because it was believed, or at least stated, that it would lead to communist domination of Southeast Asia (Domino Theory). The war goal was not about trade relationships or influence five decades later.
>>61584707Does that also mean the U.S. won korea because they prevented the communist from taking over?
>>61584729Its late at night over here, anon. Bound to make mistakes
You think nork peasant is looking at china across the border and think "damn we're glad they showed up so that my son could grow up to be a malnourished manlet picking dirt for food"?
>>61584742Yes, the *allies* won Korea, but it wasn't as total a victory as it could have been without chink interference.
>>61583040One of Maos grandchildren is a literal retard who is serving as one of the top generals of China today. Everyone around him has to pretend that he is a genius or get shot. He is famous for his poetry, that is written at a third graders level.
>>61584773and he eats boogers live on national tv
>>61582296Do their tears fall sideways?
>>61584533Napalm may have gotten to him
>>61582465uhh no, the US successfully drove china out of south korea!
>>61584018> be Asian bug in a brutal conventional warI’m so sad!>get to kill communist civilians with palsI’m so happy!
I'm going to go to my local Asian Massage Parlor and select a Chinese woman. Then, after she's given me a crappy massage, I'm going to fuck her ass so hard her rectum tears.
>>61582465>China successfully drove the US out of North Korea.lets talk about the exchange rate anon
>>61584394>McArthur McArthur was a retard whose underestimation of China is entirely responsible for the wumaos having anything prideful to say about Korea at all. If basically any other American general had been in command, the state of North Korea would be half its current size or perhaps nonexistent. He wanted to nuke the PRC wholly because infinite escalation would have excused his poor performance by setting up the PRC as a juggernaut requiring the full might of the USA to dent. And using nukes again that soon after Nagasaki would have really undermined the nuclear taboo, which would have lead to nuclear conflict in Europe.Korea is a “forgotten war” because it wasn’t glorious for anyone, and no one achieved all their goals, but China lost the most out of anyone but North Korea.
Daily reminder that every UN country who fought in Korea had a few battles against China where the end result was a lopsided K/D heroic victory from said specific UN country.
>>61584394>weobvious chinkspeak
>>61584578>egg fried riceFood worth dying for
>>61586153What about this picture causes you to seethe so?
>>61582296Should've killed them all. The more dead chicoms, the better off the world would be.
why did China lose?
>>61584008>>61584012>>61584018This is so sad, imagine dying in some freezing mountains for an ideology of a lazy bearded 19th century jew, fucking grim.
>>61584102and where exactly would one look for these fair damsels if one would be interested in such services they may or may not supply? asking for a friend.
>>61586517honestly the fact that Mao couldn't set up a dynasty like NK did probably benefitted the Chinese people more than we can imagine.just imagine Nork starvation on a level of nearly 2 billion people
>>61582296I mean... one the one hand North Korea still exists. On the other we got to play kino-as-fuck villains in Chinese Korean War films where we come in a war-crime all over the play while Chinese troops desperately try to hold the line.
>>61586848And that's the biggest danger with burning rice
>>61586848Yeah USA accidentally made China reasonable for a few decades. Now they’re back to Mao like shstems to bring it all down.
>>61582482I only just realized I wasn't sure about the context of this gif. Is it the time when the changs seethed at pelosi visiting Taiwan and xi did fuck all?
>>61586985I'm pretty sure it is but that is also the average mainland chang at all times these days (see this thread with the screeching clown claiming China won the Korean War, or any war literally ever for that matter).
>>61582465I think you mean that Truman (piss be upon him) fired the one general who ran the reds up to the chink border and would've nuked Red China.
>>61587488Nice digits.Obviously not that retarded coping sinoid, but McArthur was a broken clock that happened to be right, and only in retrospect. Nuking the sinoids and Best Koreans would've opened the door to more nuclear use by the Soviets.McArthur is only retroactively right because the consequences of more liberal split-atom-flinging during the Cold War would probably be better than dealing with the disruptive annoyance of modern ZHONGGUO!
>>61582465>end goal was the entire peninsula>end result was millions of dead chinks, generations of starvation in the north, and another "look how bad communism is" example the west could point at to scare people out of supporting ChinaDECISIVE CHANG VICTORY
>>61587730It would have taken away some of the moral justification. Shooting commies is always ok, especially if they eat dog, but maybe using a nuclear weapon against them would make the US look a little like the bad guy.A limited war like the president wanted allowed for both a military and ethical victory.
>>61587488Mcarthur's dipshit decisions were why the reds made it as far south as they did in the first place and why the Chinese counterattack was as successful as it was, not helped by the fact hat his intelligence officer was a drooling retard.Had Ridgway been in command from the start, North Korea would be a tiny little rump state hugging the Yalu river, assuming it wouldn't get annexed by China or Worst Korea after 1991.
Macarthur was the last great U.S general who knew how to fight, all the later ones are jokes now.
>>61582309>>61582465>>61582747>>61582892All these chang Wumao, instantly flocking to this thread, with massive butt hurt.Should make a thread how the CCP lost a war to Vietnam in two weeks, giving up and running away in 1979.
>>61582482isn't this guy taiwanese
>>61591623the wumao who copypastes /his/ bullshit is back as well, or someone doing his tactics lol.
>>61583379little boy turn around if you can't even handle this:go to the local dog pound-sorry, the local butchery to ask your father and grandfather to forgive you for being so useless.
>>61583179not enough
>>61591634no
Macarthur is such a fucking faggot, imagine nearly winning a war only to completely fuck it up and end up in a stalemate.Thank god Truman reigned in his stupid ass.
>>61591673>truman>faggot who did nothing but waited until FDR died.>shitcanned american hero who told the truth: only way to win is to nuke the commies>most unpopular modern president>eisenhower had to step in to stop the national and the korean war shitshows>leftist faggots still defend himlmfao
>>61584524>our goal was to kill 'em all and take the countryNope, and you can't find evidence of that other than out of your own fourth point of contact.
>>61591623>Should make a thread how the CCP lost a war to Vietnam in two weeks, giving up and running away in 1979.Hey, let's not exaggerate, Anon. The PLA lasted almost -- ALMOST -- a whole month before they fled.
>>61591508Are you sure about that?
>>61592073Macarthur was an incompetent faggot.He fucked up the defense of the Philippines but American press hyped him up and claimed a bunch if shit like his troops actually winning and holding the japs back.By the time it was over he was a war hero despite being responsible for the japanese victory.
>>61582296Korean War is a favorite of mine and reading tons of books about it, you learn the plight of the chinks,Most of them genuinely didn't know why they were fighting, and many more just a few years ago were fighting with Chiang Kai-shek; the communist officers genuinely saw this as a chance to kill off many young people who might oppose the new government, and that's why you see genuine meat wave tactics used. McArthur and Almond (Damn them to hell) were bonified idiots who underestimated the foe and lied to the press continuously for their hero complex. They got many good men killed by overextending and underestimating the will of the Chinese officers and the expendability of the Chinese lower classes. The Chinese, most of them had little ill wishes towards America, were thrown in under threat and gunpoint, and a lot were not even told who they were fighting. Thats why you see photos like this, where they are led to believe the enemy wont take prisioners and would kill all them on sight, a common tactic used by militaries with low moral in order to prevent mass surrender.Although there are instances of Americans killing prisoners, many times it's due to extremely desperate conditions and circumstances where extraction is absolutely impossible. (Chosin Reservoir)
>>61594001Once again, and I cannot stress this enough, McArthur and Almond are genuine fucking idiots who got many good Americans killed, and Almond especially is an incompetent lap dog to the American Emperor who could never take responsibility for his own shortcomings and irrational decision-making.
>>61582296That's not surprising at all considering the guard looks like he's ROKDo you have any idea how much Asians fucking despise each other? My uncle was attached to an ROK unit in Vietnam as an advisor. They captured some VC and to get them to talk, one of the Koreans cut across the VC's forehead with his bayonet and then proceeded to tear his face off like a sheet of paper.
>>61593937yea, macarthur did inchon, total genius move, with only 4 divisions, with the marines even thinking it wasn't possible. almost took all of NK , and also right about the nukes on china. ridgeway had more resources and couldn't retake the capital kaesong.>>61593969lmao, like he could hold it anyway without resources and support from FDR
>>61591508Stormin' Norman
>>61592424How many supported armored columns do you have to send across a border killing all enemy combatants to the extent end of their country is it for not killing 'em all and taking the country? You're fucking retarded.
