Ukrainian female friend's dad got conscripted. I want to help my friend assemble a care package for her dadI can gift her:- my 119 buck knife- tactical flashlightWe're thinking about buying:- multitool - moisture wicking socks (merino wool? or synthetic)- long term snacks- powerbankWhat else can I add to our care package?
>>61582357medicinal supplies for scrapes and a cleaning agent for his rifle
>>61582357if you really wanna do something, give a night vision scope
>>61582357Cigarettes, dip, zyn pouches, energy drinks, pogey bait (snacks like candy, beef jerky, etc). Even if you don't smoke or use you can always trade them to people who do.
>>61582357What is the budget here?Here's my half-assed list of "shit a grunt wants to have", other anons who have been grunts should add to it.- Red lens headlamp- Cheap, light multitool you don't give a fuck about losing or breaking- Good socks, merino wool is the best choice here- Good underwear that doesn't chafe, shooter's preference- spare batteries, AA and AAAs are always needed- A powerbank that doesn't suck assDon't give him a big ass knife, it's just more bullshit to carry around. If you have the budget, I'm sure he would appreciate a solid optic for his rifle, or some night vision. I guarantee his unit is short optics and night vision.
>>61582357>for himNODcash>for hera shoulder to cry onyour dick to suck
>>61582357>cleaning supplies, medical and for equipment like rifle>manuals for basic information, of course translated to Ukrainian/russian for easier understanding >if possible, some night vision devices>for the socks, some whool or whool blended synthetic is also good. As long as its easy to dry and antimicrobial >probably better boots because standard issue can be a bitch
>>61582357Thermal cloak
>>61582357scour this for tips: https://ukrainevolunteer297689472.wordpress.com/or contact Kyle Mizokami and ask him to suggest a packing list
>>61582419Middle aged. Her brother is in her 30s and he's fighting too, but he signed up willingly two years ago
>>61582419Not him, but conscription usually goes down the ladder when it comes to age. Older people die first and then the younger ones.
>>61582419The Ukrainian military is unironically sending older men before their youth so they don't have a population crisis in the long term.t. guy who actually bothers reading about this instead of just shitposting memes on some gay 4channel thread surrounded by retards baiting retards
>>61582419Ukraine is kicking Russias ass dude
>>61582431good of you to clarify, but there's really no point responding to vatnik bait
>>61582419>Both sides using conscripts>Clearly one side is losing, then.lol, very impressive results from the second army of the world.
>>61582431Sounds like wishful thinking really. The whole things a mess.
>Sheltertent/bivy + waterproof footprint/groundsheet or tarp (silnylon), >SleepZ Lite SOL sleeping padsleeping bag - synthetic (so it dries out easily) with a liner. Yes, get a liner. >Packas light as your budget allows and as large as you can comfortable carry, you can use the sleep pad as an ersatz internal frame. >Clothingantimicrobial undergarments & socks. insulating thermal mid- and outer-layers (thermal long johns, shirts, & packable down vest/coats)waterproof rain shell (FROGG TOGGS are good on a budget) insulated winter coat (packable is always nice)glove liners, abrasion resistant work gloves, and thicker, insulated gloves for when they’re sitting around outside in the coldheavy balaclava for sitting around in the cold, light skiing facemask or hat for when you’re moving aroundEye pro/sunglassesBoots - comfortable and waterproof>Mess kitcat can stove (takes most liquid fuels, unbreakable)lighter800ml or larger cookpot/cupsporkbandana (to handle hot cookpot)>Hydration aqua mira tablets Bleach solution (cleans gear, treats water)water bottle/bladder (I really like the Platy 2.0L Collapsible Water Bottle, they fold down flat)water filter and case (keep this in a pocket in an inner layer to prevent it from freezing if you’re outdoors)>Toiletries toothbrush & toothpasteflosssafety pinsziplock & stuffsackslatex gloveslip balmbody wipes>First Aidsplurge on this shit, everything from extra tourniquets to SAM splints, and plenty of extra meds (especially antibiotics, acetaminophen/tylenol, loperamide / Immodium, diphenhydramine / benadryl)gauze padsmedical tapeduct tape antiseptic wipes>Misc paracord & carabiners (endlessly useful, can be used to pull mines or tripwires, as a sling for weapons/gear, to make temporary shelter, or even to make a litter to move wounded)multitool with a can opener, pliers etc
>>61582431I actually see a shit ton of fighting age fresh from Ukraine trying to find work in my area, it’s interesting talking to them when they’re trying to get a job. The all more or less have the same talking points as the media but don’t see the irony.
How about 60 billion dollars?
A lot of optics are subject to itar but a 403r on a tws front sight micro mount would be a good cheap easy to pack optic and would work with any ak. Flashlight (g2x), paracord, multitool, 100mph tape, and a bivy also good
>>61582357A black human size plastic bag
>>61582431That’s no good, they recently lowered the draft age to like 25.
>>61582357>moisture wicking socksjust from my experience camping/hiking and the fact I wear smart wool/Marino wool socks exclusively. yes. this is an extremely good idea. they are massively better than cotton socks in every way and will markedly improve his comfort every moment of every day.
>>61582357>Ukrainian female friend's dad got conscripted. I want to help my friend assemble a care package for her dadnight vision wool socksgood ifak from someone like london bridgegps (no wifi, garmin or similar)alcohol wipesbore snakehot water bottlezip tiessolar battery recharger and set of aa and aaa for itthermal blanketboiled sweetshexi stovesteel mugwet wipesnbc tape thermal scope
>>61582357lmaoing at all these numb nuts in this thread thinking they have good advice on what to send a conscript headed for fucking trench warfare
>>61582538Go shit up another board, Pajeet.
>>61582538But it’s against Russia, Russia sucks at war.
>>61582538well it what i used >>61582532so thanks for your bullshit
>>61582357Gift him $15k so he can bribe his way to Romania
>this whole threadGRIM
>>61582548>Gift him $15k so he can bribe his way to Romaniahe's not a vatnigger
>>61582553Same same no?
>>61582357Wet wipes, wet wipes, wet wipes (x24)
>>61582357She's not going to sleep with you because you give her dad stuff.
I have a Nigerian prince who wants to know your number lmao.
>>61582493>The all more or less have the same talking points as the media but don’t see the irony.Like what? Media varies a lot country to country so I have no idea what your media is saying.
>>61582389>Don't give him a big ass knife, it's just more bullshit to carry aroundA survival knife that can be used for battoning might be useful, even if it's going to be kept in a trench and handed around to whoever needs it.Maybe a survival hatchet might be better though, you know the kind.A multitool will definitely be useful.If you can get them, look into bamboo socks, they're antimicrobial and stay fresh for a long, long time.Snacks run out quickly but some pepper and hot sauce can make life bearable.
>>61582709>She's not going to sleep with you because you give her dad stuff.That's probably not the reason she's sleeping with OP.Might help make sure she continues to do so though.
>>61582357>female friendAh geez dood. You need the care package nigga.
NODs are probably out of your price range and ITAR but send him some thermal optics, even the cheap chinese hunting cams are a useful supplement to your eyeballsOh and earpro
>>61582357>I want to help my friend assemble a care package for her dadim not sure where he is stationed, butgive him the name of a good pizza place,and maybe have it uber-eats delivered to himthis one is in Rivne, ukraine>*this is a REAL actual resturante in ukraine!*>"EL PASO pizza", located in RIVNE, ukraine Soborna St, 277, Rivne, Rivne Oblast, Ukraine, 33000(below is their website!)https://restaurantguru.com/Taverna-El-Paso-RivneTHIS IS A *REAL* COMMERCIAL for El Paso Pizza™.WEBM RELATEDit looks very tasty!>*if you present a military ID (especially an airmen ID) you get 15% off! any deluxe BBC-POCCNR on the menu
>>61582809>female friendI think the whole thread might be subtle bait actually.
>>61582357Gortex poncho liner (woobie) in woodland camo. It is a light and easily packed blanket, and very warm. They are fairly cheap, especially as surplus. He won't need it now, but in 5 months....Headlamp with several packs of spare batteries.Ziploc bags. LOTS of ziploc bags.Insect repellent.A couple of roles of heavy-duty ducktape.50 feet of 550-paracord (green rope/string, strong)Chocolate of some kind (snickers minis, etc)
>>61582357No futa porn? You're just a bad friend
>>61582357Are you receiving pussy for this?
>>61582952>that advertisementmy sides are officially in orbit
>>61583065>Are you receiving pussy for this?we've only talked online, but I think if i get this package made, and show her on facetime, she will finally meet up
>>61583069>that advertisement>my sides are officially in orbitextra-dimensional levels of schadenfreude
>>61582357Charter a private jet, go get her, bring her back and marry her.
>>61582357A bunch of those thermal blankets from Amazon, tell him to line his clothes with them. Will help against thermal drones.
Help him leave ukraine. Better to be alive in romania, hungary, poland, or fuck it, even russia, than to be dead in the trenches
>>61583075>we've only talked online, but I think if i get this package made, and show her on facetime, she will finally meet upNow I know this is a bait thread.
>>61582357plates? a good optic? Make sure it's kosher viz a viz ITAR. don't know if that'd be an issue
>>61582570>Same same no?nah the Ukrainians are people as far as I'n concerned only the Russians outspoken against putin should be left alive. Death to glavset.
>>61582357Condoms ;)
>>61582766NTA but I can hazard a guess:>Ukraine can totally still win they just need a few more F-16s>Putin = Hitler>Russia will collapse any day now
>>61582357Give him something he can use to injure himself so he can get out of dying for a hopeless war being forced on him by foreign government officials who don't give a shit about his life.
>>61582357knock her up so he isnt afraid to die
>>61582357Look up people in country or that have been and listen to them (any number of youtubers; nucking-futsyuri, Civ Div, BigMacsBattleBlog)If money isn't that much of a consideration, Holosun/Aim Point Red Dot & a kill-flash for it [reflective to IR, gets people killed], Leatherman, warm under garments, soft body armor (over sized, cheap Italian surplus ones with the neck protection are nice), a lot of wool socks, Vitamin D3 + K2 in 10,000 IU or higher dosages (trenches are filthy and they aren't getting sunned, this keeps him healthy), Red Lens headlamp (night adjusted vision retention inside dug outs), a quality IFAK (do research), a bottle of Iodine for water and wound sterilization, KATADYN water purifier [ceramic filter more or less infinitely reusable on anything not chemically contaminated], And anything he asks for specifically. Send family photo with whatever you do send and write regularly. Small things matter and a letter's tactile, unlike a phone call.
>>61582766Back in the early days NATO just needs to enforce a no fly zoneAny day now Russia will collapse, they don’t even have ammo anymore Russia is very bad at warUkraine just needs more people and equipment and they will totally win If the west just gave them X then Russia would be done by now
What you need to do is look her straight in the eyes, and tell her that it is quite possible that her dad will not be coming back, and that she needs to accept this fact. Then tell her that if that does happen, you can be her new daddy.
>>61582419>>61582422stfu zigger>>61582538yeah, because if you're russian all you get is a cock up the ass...
>>61582357nvgs, head lampbore snake pocket bible*pocket mien kampf *batteriesbug spray or the likemedical stufftourniquets socks *a must have
>>61582463thats a high price tag for a dude about to get clipped in the first week
>>61582357>purposely stays in the country>you are utterly surprised that he is conscripted>"what can I do to improve this situation because we all chose not to avoid it" conscription is the best hope for people of your caste
>>61582357get him a smuggler who can hide him in the trunk and drive him into poland so he can escape dying for the fucking kikes in that jewish war
>>61582431is that why they are kidnapping pregnant women now for conscription?
>>61582357Active hearing protection, cheap low power LED headlamp(s), small gardening shovel for personal latrine use, wet-wipes, ibuprofen, and lots of it.In rough order of importance.>- moisture wicking socks (merino wool? or synthetic)Wool, wool doesn't melt to your skin even if on fire.
>>61582548literally best post advice ITT
>>61583799Proof?Lets be honest though, you dont have any
>>61583812i saw a video clip but i sure as shit am not searching the internet for it. you can if it matter to you
>>61583829>schizo meltdownso you made it up, but you're so braindamaged by internet addiction that you can't even tell that you made it up any more
>>61582357Some good Night vision and a nice case to keep them in. Cigs and extra socks
>>61583848>but you're so braindamaged by internet addiction that you can't even tell that you made it up any moreThis is an excellent description of these nutjobs.
>>61582357>Brynje Wool Thermo Mesh "Fishnet" Base LayerMesh is the best base layer both for heat and cooling given the airpocket offset. Scandifag lognshoremen & fishermen have brought old common sense back into style.
>>61582357TourniquetVitaminsWet wipes/solar shower
>>61583848They're just upset people care about Ukraine and their retarded fantasy doesn't get fulfilled. The more time goes by the more insane they sound because they spend most of their free time on some schizo subreddits only talking to other retards.
>>61582357-forget that fuckhuge knive, its just weight/takes space. multitool has everything.-lots of baby wipes. a true game changer in the trenches.-2xwarm underwear-whool socks, tell him to walk em in, as well as his shoes-metal drinking flask/cantine for fire heating a tea or smth-hansaplast of whatever medical tape to cover feet/heels-smth personal from her to cheer him up in times of need, photo, letter, drawing etc.-gas lighter-rain poncho, the simple plastic sheet type that works as tent too-thin rope, like 5-10 metersgodspeed and my Fortuna always be at his side
Send him some money to pay a smuggler to gtfo to Germany, if this is someone you actually care about.
get a rifle cleaning snake rope thingy, it makes cleaning ur rifle barrel so much faster.
>>61582357>female friend
>>61583701At least the guy who scavenges the equipment will be happy.
To the retards suggesting wool socks: are you aware that it's almost summer here? They give you everything you need. Take some wet wipes, plastic trash bags, medical adhesive tape, spare usb cables, things like that. Also the summer boots are very uncomfortable, buy something better if you can.Buy a plate carrier, the state issued one sucks. And buy the fighting belt with Kevlar.
>>61583818>dude trust metypical vatnigger response
>>61585117you can get thin wool socks for summer. It's a better fabric unironically than cotton
>>61582357You should knock her up and send him pics of his grand kid. I feel like fox seals and Israeli bandages would be really popular
>>61582463also educate him about the CORRECT usage of tourniquets so that he won't get both his arms amputated because of a small cut.also tell him about 149.200 Volgahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_149.200the problem is also that others might stole from him.
>>61582952bumping just for this
>>61582357>What else can I add to our care package?- gooning material
>>61583402You could be concerned as far as you'd like :)However, if you visited the Balkans nowadays, you could have the unique opportunity to examine upclose both ziggers and hohols and their way of life. Obnoxious, entitled, nasty people...
>>61585925Then maybe you want to support Ukraine so we don't get flooded with 10 million of their refugees, no? Or is that too complicated for you?
>>61585925>You could be concerned as far as you'd like :)>Ukrainians and Russians are both equally shit)))
>>61582357Fleshlight.
>>61583701and even dead and buried they'd still be twice the man you are, pussy.
Here, faggots
>>61585973I'll take 10 million of these refugees. Might convince the locals to stop acting up.
>>61586348And twice the Ukrainian refugee pussy for the rest of us to help repopulate whatever the hell Ukraine is gonna be like after lol.
>>61582357>What else can I add to our care package?A coffin would be good in case he's lucky enough to not get vaporized
>>61586489>And twice the Ukrainian refugee pussy for the rest of us to help repopulate whatever the hell Ukraine is gonna be like after lol.2 times 0 is still 0, retard
>>61582357Give him socks that heat up when connected to a power bank. Or shoe insoles that heat up when connected to power banks, Ukrainians have said that these are lifesavers when in trenches. Give him a small sewing kit Please make sure that the heat able insoles you are giving him works. (and fit him)
how do you even mail powerbanks, aren't any sort of lithium ion batteries specifically barred from being mailedfuck if i know how commercial sales work with them though
>>61587846they are not barred from being mailed retard, they're just not allowed on passenger aircraft.hazardous materials get air-shipped all the goddamn time. we literally fucking invented mid-air refueling ffs
If you want daddy to come back alive...
>>61586489It’s going to become new israel after they get flattened in a few years
>>61582357>tactical flashlightwell it's disgusting, I know it's lonely in the trench, but it's her father, you could be more delicate
>>61582357Why? Hes just going into the meat grinder
>>61582357Why did he go along with it? What a cuck.
>>61583008> and very warmYeah no. It's okay.
>>61582357I'd send some Welch's fruit snacks. They have decent vitamin C and vitamin E. Also, send vitamin supplements.
Or you could help him avoid the draft so he doesn't die. Or are you hoping he dies so you can get your little /k/edditor willy wet?
Grim
>>61593365That's what our western fanboys don't realize or tend to ignore. Our demographics is fucked beyond repair. 20-30 year olds are endangered species.
>>61582357>He thinks anything of value will reach himIt'll be confiscated or put on "hold" until he either dies of old age or from a drone.
>>61593427Better than Russia though. They are getting bled dry
WET WIPES
>>61585117Merino is good year round, will wick sweat instead of sopping it up like cotton.
>>61582786>battoning
>>61585238>also tell him about 149.200 Volga>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_149.200Imagine surrendering to snow nigerians
>>61596810It doesn’t seem like captivity for either side is particularly enjoyable
>>61596363They have more losses but it is sort of balanced out by the much bigger population