What advantages do CATOBAR aircraft carriers have over STOBAR aircraft carriers?
>>61585182CATOBAR carriers are before STOBAR aircraft carriers in the alphabet
>>61585182CATOBAR can launch and recover fixed wing AEW assets, cargo planes, and aerial refueling planes. STOBAR carriers lack all of these basic capabilities and are pretty much just less capable LHDs
You live a sad live chink
Implessive
>>61585281It’s true. Chink carriers are more capable than the British carriers. Make of that fact what you will
>>61585182its for when you want to actually use your carrier to do things.
>>61585440>It’s true. Chink carriers are more capable than the British carriers. Make of that fact what you willall they can do is say "implessive" and call you brownthats literally itthey have to go back to reality afterwards, and thats when the stool+rope comes out
>>61585596you first airmen
>>61585596>every poster is warriortardThis psyop is running out of steam
>>61585632the entire /k/ script is coming to its conclusionby ~may 20th, this place will be on an entirely different page, one way or the other lmfao
>>61585624it's airman, singularimagine being a britbong and still struggling with the english language
The advantage is that you will look for an excuse to post the same shitty chink ships at the same time every day.
>>61585656Two more weeks?
>>61585632Armatard lasted a couple of years and I think the warriortard posting is coming up on a couple years now. I wonder who the next board villian will be
>>61585182>STOBARCheaper, if you can't find the money for a real carrier you can get this instead.
>>61585656What about may 20th?
>>61585660>imagine being this new>>61585664>Two more weeks?literally on this one^>>61585674>What about may 20th?pic related
>>61585690do you expect us to decipher your autistic metaphors? just type it out
>>61585700>do you expect us to decipher your autistic metaphors? just type it outukraine could get a new speaker of parliment, thats all, no big dealsmall deal, evenziggers gonna zig, as usual
Micro peen human drones or the local fart huffer, pick your poison because either of them are cancer on /k/.
>>61585772>are cancer on /k/.but enough about you airmen
>>61585772>The most recent study (published in 2016) of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).incels out
>>61585791>5.33Implessive.
>>61585791>>61585796may we see the penis's?who did the measuring?
>>61585796yeah see i don't understand why anyone obsesses about dick size considering that my gf is small as fuck and i can easily hit her cervix with slight effort while only being like 6.1 inchestrust me you do not want that, girls do not actually find that fun
>>61585791This is one of those studies where mode average would actually be useful
>>61585806A highly respected expert on the phallus conducted the hands-on study.
>>61585836that young woman keeps koreans safe from the barbarians in the northAmerican men could learn a lesson or two from her about patriotism
>>61585220The Soviets built fixed wing AEW for their stobar carriers. The US uses toltroters for COD now, you can use toltroters for all those roles you mentioned. LHD's have almost no free space below deck, they can't operate jets at any kind of tempo and they can't juggle two tasks at once. They are a tier below purpose built STOBAR and STOVL carriers. It will largely come down to jets though, the soviet union ended before any good OPFOR designs appeared.
>>61585182>Hey Chang, make sure you turn the saturation to maximum before you post that new picture
>>61586072may we see the british carrier at sea?
>>61585182>conventionally poweredWhy bother?
>>61586368You can see both
>>61586439date?current status?
>>61586462
>>61586462That particular image is 2021 when QE was on her maiden operational deployment and PoW was on sea trials. There are images of them both at sea in the same location from more recently but I don't have them saved.PoW is in port after completing NATO exercises last month and due to go back to sea for SRVL trails shortly. QE is getting a shaft replaced and will probably be back at sea some point in the summer, I don't know what her next deployment is scheduled to be. Here is a picture I took of her at the weekend.
>>61586532>PoW is in port after completing NATO exercises last monthcompleted nato excercises?are you sure about that?also, is she for sale?asking for a friend
>>61586544>completed nato excercises?>are you sure about that?Yes, Joint warrior and steadfast defender.>also, is she for sale?>asking for a friendYou can buy the design like Korea seems to be doing but she's not for sale.
>>61586576howd she do?did the f35's have fun?
>>61586705I don't think PoW carried many F-35's for those operations, maybe 8. Partially to keep jets avalible for training new pilots and partially because she was operating in the commando/amphibious role in those operations so there were marines and their helicopters on board.
>>61586840>a helicopter carrier with a rampif the PoW and QE lined up bow-to-bow do you think a bong could jump a jaguar across the gap like dukes of hazzard?why did the bongs build a ramp for helicopters?
>>61586912Because the ramp is for planes and the flight deck is so vast they have more than enough space for helicopters. These things can happily operate multiple Chinooks above and below deck despite the fact that the blades don't fold.
>>61586950>Because the ramp is for planesdoes it have planes?if so, how many?how often do they fly?can they fly?
>>61587009They can fly without even turning into the wind. And while replenishing. Vertically and horizontally. Literally every other navy can't do this, we went to the south China Sea and did it just to remind Chang that there's more to navies than numbers.
>>61587105>uk flex's by launching 6 empty planes in 4 at once, before the main prop caught on fire, and the boat had to be dry-docked for a yearreal bong' hours
>>61587153Who's in dry dock for a year? CDG again? She's just been unavailable for 8 months, spent 85% of her life in port.
>>61587192>Who's in dry dock for a year?uk navy mostly
>>61587198Our ships spend more time at sea than all of Europe and most of Asia. Why are you so upset by brits?
>>61587219>the thames river drydock is now the sea
is all this frog seethe because they only have the one carrier or because their carrier is now the smallest catobar in the world?
>>61587380looks like its mostly bong seethe,because their carrier alternates being unstaffed, drydocked, or on fire, with really no inbetween
>>61587398Can't see any bong seethe, I see presumably you asking dumb stuff and then getting the correct answer.
>>61587398How many deployments has USS ford gone on since it was commissioned 7 years ago? One, and a shortened one with a partial air wing at that.
>>61587736>How many deployments has USS ford gone on since it was commissioned 7 years ago? One, and a shortened one with a partial air wing at that.>with a partial air wing at that.dang^what happened to its air-wing?
>>61587794>After years of delays, the Navy plans to deploy the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier at a multi-national exercise this fall, officials announced July 13.>The flagship of the Navy’s newest class of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers will have a “partial air wing” when it sets out to sea later this year, said Vice Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, commander of the Naval Air Forces, during a Center for Strategic and International Studies and U.S. Naval Institute panel discussion.It only took hornets with it, F35C isn't cleared for EMALS ops yet as reliability is a problem still.
>>61587831>F35C isn't cleared for EMALS ops yet as reliability is a problem still.so why doesnt it just take of vertically instead?its literally easier that way, cheaper, looks cooler, is less complex, requires less space, does MUCH less stress to the airframe (fuck off arrestor cables) and is overall much easier for the pilot to managei see literally no downsides to the f35 fleet operating as VTOL from carriers, as rule, not an exception>pic relatedwhat thirdies dream of laying in the dirt each night
>>61587857Might want to read Wikipedia before posting.
>>61587794>>61587831USS ford wasn't designed to operate F35 so needs conversion work done unlike the QE class which were purpose built for F35 ops.
>>61587857Because the C variant isn't VTOL. That's the B variant which the USMC operates. The USMC actually operates both B and C variants. I'm pretty sure the reason why the navy doesn't use the F-35B is because it has less range, and much less range in a full combat load. So there isn't a reason why the navy would use the F-35B, especially for a problem that will eventually be rectified.
>>61587868>Might want to read Wikipedia before posting.ill leave that to the experts, thanks>pic relatedits how firsties take offlol literally imagine ramping your jet off a boat like some kind of thirdie,imagine not knowing how a bent straw works, or a 'vectored nozzle'>>61587884>USS ford wasn't designed to operate F35 so needs conversion work donelmfao, what?????>gerald ford, laid down 2008, commissioned 2017>F35, first flight 2006, in service 2015gif related to your postlmfao, how was that allowed to happen?
>>61587924(this is a post online but it gives you the jist) >The Ford started construction in 2005, the first prototype F-35A (the C even later) didn’t roll out until 2006. The Ford was commissioned 2 years before the F-35C was declared as having reached Initial Operating Capability. So, the Ford could not be designed or constructed to support the F-35C from day one because too little was known about F-35C operating requirements to do so.You could write an essay on the delays and issues with Ford and F35 procurement. It'd be a long way.
>>61587893>Because the C variant isn't VTOLso just put the nozzle on it ffs, were not some thirdie nation that needs 20 years to go from paper to production model, shits not even hard>>61587893>I'm pretty sure the reason why the navy doesn't use the F-35B is because it has less range, and much less range in a full combat load. So there isn't a reason why the navy would use the F-35B, especially for a problem that will eventually be rectified.ok so rectify the problem, and put more gas in the f35Bget this through yuor brown brains>VTOL=firstie>everything else? = thirdiehow hard is this to understandwhite peoples planes take off vertically, and land the samebrown peoples planes need an x-games ramp or a fucking overglorified implessive slingshotdo you see this picture?this is shit that makes thirdies go apoplecticthey literally start chimping out and doing cartwheels and shit when they see it, like the sentinalese island people when they saw a ocean survey ship
>>61587964This is almost a retarded as the fact that we had two different threads on how the J-20 has the ability to deploy a parachute and how this of itself is evidence of it being a terrible design.But of course, the F-35 has a parachute too because it is a useful way to land on shorter runways.VTOL comes with compromises.
>>61587995>VTOL comes with compromises.yes the compromise is this:>"my jet is a VTOL: therefore it is white and "good"vs>"my jet needs an x-games vert ramp: therefore it is brown and bad"its really that simple, "white" jets take off vertically, and land the same, standard firstie stuff evenmeanwhile, thirdie jets have to spread their diarreah wings and careen off the edge of a ship and pray the wind catches them like some kind of 80iq genius>pic related, for the brown thirdies at browsing from the hovel>>61587995>the J-20 has the ability to deploy a parachute and how this of itself is evidence of it being a terrible design.lmfao, case and point^>the thirdie jet cant into vertical landing, and must fucking parachute to the ground like its market garden 44'everyone who wont post hands look at my imageeveryone who is implessive look at iteveryone who is brown or whos shit flows like the gannnnnnnnnnnnnnges, look at this imageto a thirdie, this is like gazing into a hyerdimensional, multi-core quantum computers core and seeing "whiteness" at its atomic levelan act of complete and total realization of superiority/inferiority, that has universal implications
>>61587857Less payload, range and you can't launch AWACS without catapults or arrestor gear
>>61588568>can't launch AWACS without catapults or arrestor gearthirdie shit anyway, imagine thinking the F35's radar cant do awacs for itself and everyone else, all while target cueing for the loyal wingmen>>61588568>Less payload, rangeliterally not a problem, its called "aerial refueling" and its something firsties commonly do
>>61585808I've hit the IUD wires on some girls, not fun to get stabbed in the dick and come out bleeding
>>61585690hi helmettard, still seething, i see?
>>61588075helmettard, why do you harm yourself with these meltdowns? this is seriously cutting into your life expectancy.
>>61587380Shoop.The wakes of the mid and right hand ships are identical.
>>61587857dumb post
>>61589149Because he has nothing else. But I don't think that's him, he hates the F-35
>>61585632Based jan
>>61585182Lots
>>61585589implessive brown post
Aircraft can take off with me more fuel and payload
get a fuckin life warriortard>>61587893>much less rangeonly 20% lessthe more serious problem is that it can only carry 6 large weapons instead of 4 as it can't fit Sidekick>>61587964surely you're trolling
>>61587380>25% larger aircraft complement despite being 50% larger>100% of that aircraft complement is foreign lol indeed
>>61586705>howd she do?1138 deck landings from 13 types of aircraft of which 60 were Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landings from F-35sand that was just Stateside in 2023
