Who has the better kit?
>>61595675His
>>61595675I don't know how they fucked it up, but the anniversary edition somehow screwed up the aesthetic of 2. they looked great, in the original 2. I hate the anniversary one.
>>61595675I always liked the Halo 3 style and design of marines and ODSTs the most. It's the best balance of practicality and cool factor I've seen for scifi grunts. >>61596145I agree, the H2A style never really hit it with me.
>>61595675the one that actually has usable pouches on the front of his kit>>61596017based Command GM enjoyer
>>61596145objectively and subjectively correct opinion.
>>61595675these guys, fuck you ODSTrannies and Reach redditors, Halo 3 was the best Halo
>>61595675The one on the left.I can see the right prioritizes strong shapes but, "being neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm," it becomes generic slop by not going hard for style.Maybe the right side could fit in Metroid.
>>61595675I wish there was more art depicting spartans with full kit instead of just having their primary and secondary
>>61596339>t. had a Spartan steal his sniper rifle and got a plasma pistol
>>61595675Reach ODST
Halo 3 era ODST is peak masked trooper aesthetic
>>61596295>that field medic ODSTFuck the games never gave good medic customization, especially Spartan IV's you'd think would have field medics.
>>61596017based UC truther
As this seems like the designated halo thread, would you join up with the banished /k/? Which race would be the best to serve with?
>>61595675They both look like cannon fodder that will shoot a rocket at their own cover and blow themselves up. Or like they can punch tanks.
>>61598335the what?
>>61596017I'm more of a GM Cannon II man myself
>>61597867Might get it soon
>>61595675Wreck less rage and poison pride>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdyxIcM4pZM
>>61595675halo3/odst is peakbut theyre all good :)
>>61598729I like newer jims.
>>61598861Eh, it's probably just some Forge mode some modder's working on.
>>61598646Covenant rebel faction that grew more powerful post schism. Fosters a slightly more cooperative environment between the species and the big thing is that they allow humans to join, it's already stated that many outer colonies have started to side with them over the UNSC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RMEYMu82Y
>>61598335Why anyone trust the monkes when their most historically noteworthy deed is the brutal execution of a species-wide betrayal?
>>61600097Money/power mostly. Let 'Volir simply joined because he didn't agree with the Arbiter or with the reemerged covenant, Atriox offered him fuel and supplies in exchange for service.
>>61598335halo infinite is a travesty to halo and has some of the worst worldbuiling done by 343 (which was already shit)
>>61600121the fact the mouthbreathers in 343s writing department seriously try to push the 'unsc is le bad guys' and humanity (which is 90% still genocided from the war) are unironically siding with a red reskinned covenant (banished) is absurd and the absolute retardation to keep creating new factions/villians with no reason or backstory such as the didact or 'endless' and for example, have the didact come back from the dead when you killed him in halo 4 and kill half the remaining spartan IIs left alive in lore offscreen in a fucking comic. 343 seriously cannot be trusted with any creative writing or worldbuilding everything after Reach has been abysmal and they keep changing it so even if you sucked it up and coped about halo 4, halo 5 made it irrelevant and worse and then same with infinite
>>61598335If I'm joining any alien society it will be one ran by sangheili not the monkeys.
Lemme guess. The Banished are supposedly mercenaries and bounty hunters unlike the Covenant, which is why they allow any humans who may or may not hate the Earth Government to join them for mercenary glory... But they don't act or behave like mercenaries, guns for hire or any contractor. Do they?
Halo died with Reach. The TV show and anything 343 made is just it's corpse that's been hung by the entrails and paraded about the cities.
>>61600487>The Banished are supposedly mercenaries and bounty hunters unlike the Covenant, which is why they allow any humans who may or may not hate the Earth Government to join them for mercenary gloryBanished are more like a mix of various groups who all fall under the flag of Atriox. Many among them can be mercs but they are mercs working for Atriox. So naturally there are human mercs who have joined up but also outer colonies. Humans also serve a useful role in unlocking forerunner tech something no other species can do. Better to think of them as a confederation of mercs and pirates allied under a single flag. And Atriox's goal is mostly just taking power in the Orion Arm of the galaxy.
>>61600093>Outer Colonies being allowed to side with anything other than the UNSClollmao
>>61596433All that reach concept art got used for some halo wars 2 guys, jerome as a dlc commander’s whole gimmick is a spartan team with tactical kit and spartan lasers
>>61595675The Halo 3 one>>61600093>outer colonies siding with the BanishedDid the nook shortage go from using outdated warheads to them being Lostech or something? Because the entire Insurrection started when the UNSC in their infinite wisdom decided to book Far Isle (Ghosts of Onyx btw) Especially now that 343 thinks that hundreds of ships can be built in 4 years in the 3 or so human shipyards that weren’t turned to glass by the end of the war >>61600541Real
>>61596215Halo 3 designs are cartoonish. They look more like toys than anything you would ever see.
>>61601315UNSC is actually pretty fucked after 5, mass AI rebellion mixed with them getting forerunner super weapons. Cortana also mass genocided the brutes in the process. And as the other guy mention somehow the didact returned and fucked them just as hard. Banished just watched this galactic level of bullshit happen and jumped in last minute to fuck the survivors. All of this because 343 had no idea what they wanted the plot to be and got mogged by creative assembly.
>>61601418>All of this because 343 had no idea what they wanted the plot to be and got mogged by creative assembly.You mean Halo Wars 1 and 2? How do you think the rest of Halo's story would've gone if it just went along with Halo War's story and plot?
>>61603385>You mean Halo Wars 1 and 2?2 specifically, 1 was made by a different studio. 2 is where the banished originate as a small side story. But the reception was apparently good enough that they just ended their Halo 5 plot set up off screen and made the Banished the new main villains. Like 5 ends with this set up for Cortana and other AI's as the new big bads with forerunner tech, and then all that was seemingly over at the start of Infinite and we're fighting the banished now.
>>61598335>>61598646https://youtu.be/mbAPDbOFrOs?si=dq8bYAsSQ9I7EZVC
>>61604025An interesting thing that they might be making their own spartans, though doubt anything will come of it.
>>61596017"Ambushes you">>61596215Its most likely those white lines in the visor it's just pointless details.
Will Halo ever capture this feel again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyOAdrxlPVs
>>61604780No, it’s too kino so moneysoft wont do it and 343 sure as hell won’t do it because it’s Halo’s true form which they have always hated
>>61596767It was the opposite for me. I used to give my allies fuel rod cannons, snipers and the like because they never run out of ammo for the ridiculous power weapons
>>61595675Pictured: The Office of Naval Intelligence finds a village full of minors in a backwater planet to turn them into more Spartan 2s under the direction of Catherine Halsey.
>>61605480If there was ever a show that deserves the description “pedobait”, it’s this one.
>>61595675left, even though the pouches are way too small
>>61604780No, 343i want to make capeshit.
>>61600070doesn't mean it can't be /k/ino, we'll just have to wait and see.
>>61608456I always want to be mad at 343 but my own hatred of the halo community trumps it
>>61600070That is exactly what it is but honestly would probably be better than 343 doing it.
>>61608508True, what’s left of it is basically a cult at this point
>>61598335No because in any sanely developed post-covvie setting the Banished would be a hellishly-run sci-fi libertalia barely hanging on after years of being hounded by the covvies and would regularly devolve into minor civil-wars among itself only put down after thousands had been cannibalized by the brutes and the strongest warlord among them put down all resistance.>>61608456>>61600541this unironically>>61600130Microcock should have aired out 343's offices halfway through H4s development, there isn't a single writer involved in that travesty and every other one after it that doesn't deserve to be blackballed
>>61609150I'm amazed to still seem some people still around, still playing halo, still talking about that show, and never being happy with both but they still do it. It's kind of crazy.
>>61604780The fact that ODST's haven't shown up in Halo 4, 5, or Infinite outside of spartan armor is all one really needs to say to show that not only does 343 not get the series they don't like the series. Even in infinite, watching those multiplayer cutscenes showing how the Spartans act, it's like night and day compared to the opening dialogue from ODST. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXafmbkhYtchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QZI2Jv0EVs
>>61611724Its all about them Spartan IVs now
>>61611697It’s because the originals were just really fun and 343 keeps using the goodwill/nostalgia generated by Bungie to keep selling Halo like what Disney has been doing with Star Wars also Halo fans know Halo’s potential and the formula needed to make a good Halo has already been found so in theory it is ridiculously easy to make so naturally they think that the 3 months of rants every time 343 acts retarded will change anything but it doesn’t because 343 despises Halo >>61611724You WILL have Spartan 4s and marvel tier characters and you WILL like it also I imagine it’s partially because Frankie seemed to really hate Eric Nylund’s work so naturally he’d hate one of his biggest contributions to Halo
>>61598335Fucking so goddamned gay. I fucking hate halo infinite so much>Guise REAL Halo is soo back this time!You probably believed the shills too
>>61595675Right has objectively better armor coverage, left has too much of the undersuit exposed, just waiting to suffer severe plasma burns, especially in the groin and thighs. No side or lower arm coverage to speak of either. Extremely bulky lower leg plating negates any mobility advantage the lighter armor may provide.
>>61611724They are referenced in one cutscene in Infinite, with their position shown on a map, but they're marked deceased. No idea why 343 hates them so much, considering they've been scaling back the spartan IV idea of a mass-produced class of super soldiers ever since 4 released. They had generic armor and would accompany you like marines on missions in 4, then starting with Spartan Ops (probably the worst Halo slop ever, worse than even the show) they tried to make them borderline capeshit characters, which only worsened in 5. They're still like that in Infinite but they're just all dead because writing more than 3 characters in a story is too hard for the writers of the most expensive video game yet to be developed.
>>61614999Was still funny to see that Locke died off screen with no fanfare or really even reference if you didn't notice his helmet on the big bad. Funnier still budget cuts killed the live service story, not sure how they fucked up that bad. Mismanagement to hell and back.
>>61614185>>61614999It's funny because once again CA did not have this issue, Red Team in Halo Wars 2 act like Spartans should even when getting their asses handed to them. You just know if these were Spartan IV's there would have been more quips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cz7PRkgH3c
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>>61596145>>61596320100% agreed. The original ODST design in Halo 2 was the best aesthetically. It has that 90's anime space SWAT look
>>61617539I do still wonder what the lore implications of the different designs are both seem to exist in universe. Doesn't seem like a lighter or heavier kit, maybe just origin of unit?
>>61619405Bungie implied that the Halo 2 version was the older one while the Halo 3 version was newer and derived from Mjölnir
>>61595675>not posting the Haitian ODST programngmi
>>61600093 Thats all made up 343 b.s., none of that's cannon.
>>61619508>Thats all made up 343 b.sIt's actually Creative Assembly.
>>61619465Could be the case, would make sense why the ODST's on Reach have them. Could be something to do with the station on earth orbital defense grid as well, maybe meant for a different environment.
>>61619470>>61617539IIRC isn't it that basically there's no available armor that works well against plasma, and the Pillar of Autumn marines were actually basically using nigger-rigged ship armor plate steel from the PoA on their kit as an in-between? like the lore was that they had like a month to figure out how to avoid getting jobbed like everyone on Reach after they escaped and were running awayit's probably a limitation of the era of consoles but you can actually see the plasma flash off their armor in the original halo 1, then in contrast in Halo 2 when it's the IAC, the marines are wearing more typical ballistic rigs and were slightly weaker.Might just be my headcanon though, since it's been two decades since I've even cared about it
>>61619642Anniversary makes it even more odd by just giving them the army kit from Reach. 100% think this was just due to reusing assets because Bungie were on the way out the door while making it.
>>61619642Given how the sheer amount of prototype/new equipment that the Autumn had on board it probably was likewise a new piece of armour >>61619875Actually Bungie didn’t make it, 343 did who in outsourced it Saber Interactive
>>61620852>Given how the sheer amount of prototype/new equipment that the Autumn had on board it probably was likewise a new piece of armourI actually vaguely remember something from the novelizations about that, and that basically everyone on the Autumn was the equivalent of space SOF/SAD
>>61620909Yeah the plan was to have 25 Spartans, 130 veteran ODSTs and 500 marines infiltrate High Charity with a captured Covenant and capture the high Prophets to end the war
>>61596339>Halo 3 was the best HaloOnly because it's the one that did the most things right, still has one of the worst stories and campaigns of the entire series
>>61619405>I do still wonder what the lore implications of the different designs areI think you're looking too into it. The way I saw it, the different types of armors we see are just like the different types of helmets and armors each country has. In a galaxy spanning civilization not every planet, country, and army is going to have the exact same kit I always saw that Halo 2 marines/odst had an older kit since they were based out of Africa and I'd imagine even in 26th century, Africa is getting old surplus.I love the idea that the marines from CEA made armor from ship plating out of desperation to find something they could wear to protect against plasma
>>61621288Here's a marine redesign i found online.. Rather than it being a complete redesign thought it would be really cooler and more fitting to see UNSC infantry from certain planets adopting heavy armor plating to combat plasma weaponry
>>61621288>I always saw that Halo 2 marines/odst had an older kit since they were based out of Africa and I'd imagine even in 26th century, Africa is getting old surplus.they deployed from In Amber Clad though, and we already know the QRF in New Mombasa came from Diego Garciathe real answer (and this applies to basically any media that iterates on its designs) is that any justification for the in-universe "why" comes long after the artist desire to try and out-do your previous work.
>>61596339>>61621284reach was prime kino>SOF sent on kill/capture mission before situation heavily degrades>doing actual SOF shit and not "we need a lot of stuff killed all the time, also you have a parasocial attachment to a computer">no stupid captain planet and the planeteers shit where no character of consequence dies and you have a rainbow team of personalities that are super-men>feels like the characters actually have a story that explains why they can seamlessly interact with literally any vehicle ever>getting separated from the team actually makes you nervous on Legendary and you feel like you're missing the dudes watching your back>didn't suffer from the "go somewhere and kill wave upon wave of enemy" shit that Halo 4 onwards suffered fromprobably the only thing better was Halo 1 actually treating the PoA like a true ship and having it be boarded then scuttled>>61621288>I love the idea that the marines from CEA made armor from ship plating out of desperation to find something they could wear to protect against plasmathe Halo 1 novelizations did so much heavy lifting in the lore as well. The high ROF of the Assault Rifle was basically explained by the idea that you could overwhelm energy shields with high ROF if you didn't have something huge enough like 12.7mm to punch straight through it, and the BR-55 was seen as shit on Reach because it didn't have that ability. They really did have the ukraine meta of "holy shit we have to figure out how to address this even if we're using plate steel and ikea furniture"
>>61600093>covenant already almost shitkicked humanity to existence, stopped by an absolute MIRACLE at the right place and right time>need a "new" enemy>i know: RED COVENANt>Story is: okay so you know the covenant??? this is covenant that didn't like the other covenant and were around the whole time, u just didnt know about them (even though they would 100% have been mentioned at some point in the first 3 games plus reach if there was another faction fighting the covenant that was just as powerful as them, but ok)>the leader: red tartarusi dont know chief, it just feels lazy
>>61597867>Fuck the games never gave good medic customizationMy dream Halo game is a squad based ODST tactical shooter based off the original Ghost Recon games. You can pick your kit and squad mates prior to each mission and the medic heals more like it did in GRAW 2. Game starts with you fighting innies and then takes steep difficulty spike when covenant are introduced
How do you guys feel about covie weapons?
