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It used to be popular among SOF because
>subsonic
>stopping power (allegedly)
>doesn't go through bodies

But out of all subsonic rounds the .45 ACP is also the loudest. In most practical cases the gun needs to be larger or you'll have less rounds. And since nowadays we have 9x19 rounds that come in all flavors, subsonic, high velocity, heavy, light, HP, standard FMJ, etc.
https://youtu.be/hqQB17_aSsE
What is the argument for .45 ACP in 2024?
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>>61597093
Fuck you cock sucker
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>>61597093
> What is the argument for .45 ACP in 2024?

I like big bullets. Simple as. It also is the best round in the USP which is the best handgun ever. It’s also a proven man stopper. I don’t trust 9mm.
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>>61597178
bullet bill approves
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>>61597093
They go with 1911s and 1911s are sex
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Who cares about meme self defense situations. The data already shows the only thing that matters is whoever shoots and lands hits first.
It has little concussion due to being low pressure and low velocity. It's the most fun pistol cartridge to shoot steel with. At 800fps you can often see the bullet in flight. It's not so loud that it outnoises the sound of the plinks.
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>>61597093
No because I'm still buying it and I'm way younger then boomers
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>>61597093
This is bait, but I'm eating it anyway because I don't care.

1911's are the best handgun ever made, and for that reason alone, .45 will always be relevant. If a pack of pitbulls or a methhead with a knife comes after me, I don't just want to just poke holes in them, I want to knock them right on their ass.

The US Government adopted .45 because they were fighting violent drug addicts in the jungles of the Philippines and their handguns at the time were not powerful enough to stop them. Guess what infests every American city and most rural areas as well.
>inbf muh stopping powah
It feels satisfying launching something the size of a bowling ball at a target. God forbid I ever need to defend myself with a handgun, but in that scenario, I would much rather have a .45 than a 9mm.

>>61597144
>posting boomer porn
You are not helping your case.

>>61597511
Same.
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>>61597093
I'm a Gen-X 9mm fag.
>Will the .45 ACP finally go with the last boomer?
No, never. It works fine, there's tons and tons of guns for it, and some people just like the feel. Some people enjoy authentic older gun experiences too. There's nothing wrong with that at all, not everything is min/maxing you absolute fucking faggot.

I like 9mm better, but 45acp will do great vs anything realistic. Now fuck off.
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>>61597797
>1911's are the best handgun ever made
>>61597178
>>61597507
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>>61597093
You don't know what "boomer" means. .45 is widely used by people all the way down into their 30s. It's going to be in use for another 50 years, at least.
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>>61597093
I got one so hg would stop laughing at me so I hope not
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>>61597093
>But out of all subsonic rounds the .45 ACP is also the loudest.
A subsonic .45 acp will typically be somewhere between 185 to 230 grains. Those subsonic 147-grain 9mm can't compete in terms of power, 9mm was meant to be supersonic and there's no way around that.
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serious question

if it's all about muh stopping power, muh big boolit, why did people who like 45ACP never drifted towards other calibers that are fatter and hardier even? like magnum guns have become progressively more shootable and even in the 70s and 80s you could get away with carrying one if you really wanted to.
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>>61599607
What are you talking about, if a .45 chad wants a magnum semi he simply converts to the almighty .460 rowland and then the gun can eat anything from 460 to 45 super to 45 socom
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>>61597093
25yr old .45fag here, carrying the boomer torch into the future. Will be pressing my children, grandchildren, nieces, and nephews into .45fagdom
>reeee but why
Because I like it's a lot of fun to shoot and reload. Simple as
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.45kuGODS stay winning
9jitasissies stay whining
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>>61597093
The Glock 21 and USP back in the 90’s pretty much guaranteed it staying around for the indefinite future.
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I’m 21 and my next firearm will be a 1911. People love 1911s at the range I go to
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>>61602241
Everytime I go shooting with my buddies and their expensive CZ's& tricked out Glocks, it's always my humble 1911 Commander that gets shot the most; also got it when I was 21
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>>61599183
Nice Tisa. I’m looking to pick one up in a few months, has it been a good buy for you?
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Which is the best backwoods big critter defense / handgun hunting choice: USP45 Expert, USP45 Tactical, or FNX-45 Tactical?

-USP Expert:
>long sight radius
>massive slide for recoil taming
>can handle .45 Super with no/minimal mods
>match trigger
>o-ring barrel for precise lockup

-USP Tactical:
>also compatible with .45 Super out of the box
>also has o-ring barrel
>has some or all of the Expert’s match internal components, depending on year of manufacture
>has a threaded barrel for muzzle devices
>better looking in my opinion than the other options

FNX-45 Tactical:
>optics ready
>higher capacity
>threaded barrel
>not approved by manufacturer for .45 Super, but a .460 Rowland kit is available

I’m having trouble deciding, anons. I have some concern about the FN’s infamous bendy problems, but the ability to take an optic without aftermarket milling is pretty neat. I think USPs are much cooler overall, but the one time I have handled a USP it felt like a board in my hand. What do you guys think of these three?
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ITT anons who took boomer wojak posting a few years ago too seriously
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>>61597093
>It used to be popular among SOF
When? Not in GWOT. Are you thinking of the Vietnam War? That was over half a century ago.
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Shouldn't the proliferation of suppressors result in a .45 renaissance? It's already big, heavy, and naturally subsonic, you'd think there'd be a bunch of dudes shilling .45 as the pistol-caliber .300blk
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I USE 45 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE A 46! 2 WORLD WARS HELL YEAH BROTHER! DEFEND YOURSELF THE WAY GOD AND JOHN BROWNING INTENDED. KIDS THESE DAYS DON'T KNOW WHAT A REAL ROUND LOOKS LIKE!

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>>61597093
I've got the means and the willingness to pump out 9x18 from 9x19 brass and do so for my Mak. If there's anyone like me, and I'm certain there is, .45 will go on. Cheapest way to get boxer brass for 9x18 btw.
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>>61602963
Subsonic 9mm is cheaper than 45, readily available, and quieter. You aren’t shooting for power if you’re shooting suppressed and the differences between .45 and 9mm aren’t compelling enough to make people sacrifice capacity, cost, and dB level for the larger .45.

It’s quieter since the bore is smaller letting less gas escape out the muzzle of the suppressor.
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>>61603023
but op says
>>61597093
>heavy
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>>61597144
>Playboy
What a fucking joke. Was helping a friend clean out his dad's place, and found stash of pristine Playboy magazines from before I was born. Literally 50 percent ads. How the fuck did boomer jack off to that shit?
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>>61603077
The idea of playboy was that it was more high brow and “elegant” than other porn mags of the time. More palatable and people could always just say they were actually reading the articles instead of looking at titties and thick bushes.

You can sell them for a not insignificant amount on eBay
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>>61600514
Three overrated mangoos detected
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>>61603288
I'm sorry you have pleb taste in mangos. Robots, cyborgs, and mechs will always be cool.
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>>61603288
nice digits, but they are rated just fine
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>>61603317
>Robots, cyborgs, and mechs will always be cool.
I don't dispute this
As stories, anything Shirow is crap and Alita has two or three good arcs
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>>61603077
>>61603097
Buddy of mine was given a huge stash. We were able to find the September 2001 issue but NOT the following month, which disappointed me. I was interested in seeing how they handled it.
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>>61603479
Seems like it was business as usual lol
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>>61603504
Stupid. October comes before November.
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>>61603504
>November
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>>61597178
You're thinking of the MK23. The best round for the USP is the one it was designed around: .40SW
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>>61602871
I have a standard USP 45 and I love it. Makes .45 feel like 9 and totally strokes any main character complex you may have. However...

>Only has like 3 direct mount lights to pick from, 2 being kinda low power and 1 being very low power and expensive
>Needs $60 adapter to run normal weapon light, which makes it sit lower
>Mags are $50 a pop
>Trigger isn't bad but it also isn't good
>Finding holsters is a bitch

Honestly, I'd look into getting either the HK45 or HK45C (Mk. 24). Same HK reliability lore but has a modern light solution, a more ergonomic grip, a better trigger, and costs a few hundred dollars less on average.

FNs are lame and I will not elaborate further.
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>>61603504
Well, what did they want?
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>>61597144
>August, 1990 the month Desert Shield started
>February, 1991 the month Desert Storm ended
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>>61599678
I think anon was thinking about 10mm in particular. 45 I SEE PEE fags look at the ground each time you mention the superior pistol caliber.
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>>61602335
NTA but I have the Tanker version. It feeds ball good, but sucks with most HPs. I tried the Remington Golden Saber with some good effect. In terms of fit and feel, it feels right and works good for the price. I'd say consider upgrading the magazines though since one of the 8 shot mags I got had some spring issues that I had to order some Wilson springs to replace. It is a gun will gun.

As for thread - 1911s are still popular in the states and people still inherit grandpa's old gun so will shoot it. In terms of performance, it does the job it needs to for most Redguard engagements and will likely stick around for a long while. It'll probably outlive all of us.
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>>61602979
Boomer posting never gets old
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>>61603528
Team Rainbow approved caliber
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>>61597144
Old.
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>>61602871
Go FN. You get more for less.
>FN is Same length as the HKs
>15 rounds with baseplate upgrades for even more Dakka
>460 Rowlands conversion is cheap if you have a tac model to send in and then you can take any 45 load in existence like a neglected white trash stripper
>Bendy problems were literally 1 batch of FNXs in 2014 I have an fnx45 I ran in Arizona heat for a solid 1k round range day and never had bendy frame issues no different than a glock or other polymer offering. Only 2 failures, one being a bad primer on the casing, the other was a FTE that resolved when I wiped my feed ramp from being dirty
>No wear n tear items like HK o-rings, I get its neat but practically speaking it's a wear item.
> completely Ambidextrous just a nice touch
>No proprietary rail nonsense, you can run any standard railed attachments you want
>More aftermarket (while still nothing like CZs, 1911s, glock, etc still more than HKs)
One big gripe I do have with the FNX is how small the slide release levers are. The paddle design is superior and im a big fan of Walthers. Personally I think you should make the call based off 2 things.

>Are you a Metal gear fan boy
And
>If you plan to get/have a suppressor then get the FNX-45 it's way better for a modern canned secondary. If you don't want a suppressor then go with an HK.
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>>61597093
no
fuck off nogunz zoomer faggot
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>>61597093
99% of self defense shooting videos shows 1-2 shots going into a perp before he books it and croaks later.

Follow-up shots in a self-defense shooting is fantasy, often confused with police shootings where they have to mag dump into an advancing junkie who can't feel anything but rage.

Bigger is better, always will be.
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>>61605134
There was that cool chart that listed average bullets-per-self-defense per caliber, and the conclusion was that all pistol calibers are dogshit and relatively interchangeable, all in the 6 to 8 shot range, but once you stepped it up to a rifle caliber it took on average 2 shots, and with a shotgun one shot.
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>>61605173
Agreed. I personally carry 10mm, but my ideal handgun would be pic related.
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>>61604887
>No wear n tear items like HK o-rings
kind of a nonsense statement since the gun doesn't even need the o-ring.
>completely Ambidextrous just a nice touch
utterly pointless but easy to do on an HK. I'd rather the gun just be set up correctly.

desu the fnx just doesn't look as cool as the USP and that will always make it an inferior firearm
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>>61597093
Nope I love lobbing 230g footballs
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This is what my 1911 did to a coconut. Big ass entry hole! Looks like a shotgun slug hit it.
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This is the exit hole.
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If you actually want to kill what you're shooting at use .45
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>>61605447
no if I want to kill it I'll use 12 gauge or a rifle caliber thanks, you have fun with your toy though
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>>61605233
>kind of a nonsense statement since the gun doesn't even need the o-ring.
not to mention they last 20,000 fucking rounds and cost $5 if you buy the actual HK oem o-ring
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>>61597093
Have you shot 45acp?

It’s a really fun round especially in a 1911
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>>61597093
the only guy i know who likes 45 insists the best way to incapacitate someone is to shoot the ground in front of them and ricochet into their legs...
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>>61597093
.45sisters? That's 2 magazines worth...
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>>61605985
the best way to incapacitate someone is to destroy their CNS, followed closely by exsanguinating them.
Whether or not they survive that is a personal problem.
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>>61603610
Pussy. all of the worlds problems come down to lack of pussy. If the middle east spent more time investing in its pussy infrastructure instead of it's gay ass army the US wouldn't have had to invade
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>>61606143
one*
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.45acp is a default caliber and will exist so long as smokeless powder firearms exist. If this upsets you seethe and cope. There are like a dozen default calibers that fill the various niches of firearms utility so well that people gravitate towards them. Think of calibers like a spectrum and different calibers are nodes on that spectrum. A century of trial and error has determined the optimal distance between the nodes where you get close to the performance you want without sacrificing too much. 9mm is a node, 45 is a node, 5.56 is a node, 12 gauge is a node 22 is a node, etc.
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>>61597803
Why can't we be friends?
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>>61604887
>Go FN. You get more for less
Funny thing is that an FNX is more expensive than my factory new USP45 was. Mags are more too.
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>>61606745
I sometimes wonder what sort of world would be created if we produced like 3 girls for every 1 boy. Would no doubt be one of the biggest paradigm shifts to alter the sex ratios like this. Female sexual value would go down, no such thing as pussy scarcity, every man gets a harem, etc. it is a well known fact that pussy has a pacifying effect on men. is this the solution to all the violence in the world? Provided you’ve achieved post-scarcity with regards to things like food and shelter.
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>>61606233
> exsanguinating

I get that that’s proper diction, but God damn it, English motherfucker.

(It’s cool, I already googled and already had an idea of what it meant)
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>>61597093
10mm is better
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>>61597797
>I want to knock them on their ass
That isn't fucking happening, anon. You should probably do some actual research instead of relying entirely on anecdote for something so important.
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>>61606745
classic marine take, convince them to stop taking 6 wives per guy and its solved. the pussy is there, its just commandeered by a few pretend not faggots
>>61606233
totally missed the point but yeah
>>61606858
yes
if only there was a 357 auto to show these children what they're missing
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>>61606858
>>61606886
.357 Sig > 10mm
Same penetration, same expansion, but .357 offers significantly higher velocity
10mm is pretty fucking disappointing when tested
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>>61605233
>Doesn't need it yet still has it in design
>lil bro thinks amby is pointless and then gets insecure about control layouts?
>Looks, totally not a subjective thing.
>>61605782
My gun doesn't have it though so I don't even need to deal with that whatsoever.
>>61606777
I got my FNX-45 tac with 5 15 mags for 600 dollars. I garentee you the HK cost more.

Look I get it, you like metal gear and do t care about suppressors. Go ahead and overpay for your krautkannon and I'll enjoy the waffle iron.
>inb4 mk23 nerds comparing all of these guns to it
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>>61606892
I very nearly bought this gun instead of a VP9, but the slope on the chamber bugged me.
I kind of wish I got a 5.7 instead, but then I'd probably have a lot less rounds fired.
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>>61606892
>I got my FNX-45 tac with 5 15 mags for 600 dollars
I simply don't believe you. Unless you got a serious bro price on a used one from some friend.
My USP was $850 btw. I also have a Glonk 21 that i've had much longer if that makes you feel any better.
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>>61606886
I've wanted a Coonan since I read about the originals in some book back in the early 2000s. I will forever kick myself for not buying one of the nu-Coonans.
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>>61606886
.357 Mag doesn't belong in autos
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>>61606889
most manufacturers download their 10mm to 40sw specs, super gay and not based but its the truth. proper 10mm auto is on par (imho) to 357 magnum energy wise
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>>61606771
Yup.
op is a fag
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>>61606848
The strong alphas (me) would just dominate the weake faggots (you& OP) and take your surplus women; kill (you) in the process
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>>61607051
Your drive to do that is stronger with 1:1 sex ratios, and you haven’t done it. This drive is diminished if your harem is about the max size you can afford to provide for.


Seriously though, we’d all be pretty coomed out and satisfied and locked into an eternal state of orgasm and excess to bother getting up and exerting energy (bad, actually, but desu the 3 wives and dozen kids need providing for, so motivation still exists) much less thugging it out and risking our lives in the process.

…. A brotherhood… of man….. imagine alll the people…. With harems offff their own
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>>61606886
> if only there was a 357 auto to show these children what they’re missing

.357 Sig exists. If that’s not enough, there is 9x25 Dillon. The latter IIRC is ballistically superior to 357 mag . The former, equal.

Please no rimmed cartridges feeding from mags. They belong nowhere near autoloaders or mags.
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>>61602963
I like my 1911 but 45 acp is just too expensive kek
>>61606143
Thats a youtube video because its unusual, taking 15 shots of 9mm is normal.
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>>61606889
> expansion

Then you aren’t holding bullet construction constant. It’s only 1-2mm but still, a 10mm will obviously always expand more than a 9mm of the same type

At pistol velocities, the difference in velocity between 2 rounds becomes trivial if they both penetrate the same amount and bullets offer the same expansion. You are still just poking a hole. At these low velocities, it doesn’t really matter how fast the hole is being poked
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>>61606889
>Same penetration
Not when using hardcast
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>>61597093
Nope 9mm is for fags
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>>61607083
>3 wives
So I'd have two more women fucking nagging me and spending my money than I do now? No fucking thanks kiddo. Keep your virgin fantasy, I'm fine with reality
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>>61607499
.45 ACP would have literally done the same thing.
Turns out when you shoot meth'ed up suicide-by-coppers it takes a full business day for them to receive the damage.
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>>61607558
Nah he’d be DRT. Cope harder 9fag
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>>61607564
All pistol calibers have extremely similar terminal performance, such that there is no statistical data to back up that .45 is more lethal than 9mm, they are both exactly as lethal, which is to say not very.
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>>61607583
9fag propaganda. Your cartridge is gay and so are you.
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>>61607564
>>61607583
Inb4 proofs
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

Read that shit and then don't ever post here again you wannabe boomer faggot.
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>>61607499
>lmao only 9mm
But for real
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>>61607586
The post-script
>This study took me a long time and a lot of effort to complete. Despite the work it took, I'm glad I did it. The results I got from the study lead me to believe that there really isn't that much difference between most defensive handgun rounds and calibers. None is a death ray, but most work adequately...even the lowly .22s. I've stopped worrying about trying to find the "ultimate" bullet. There isn't one. And I've stopped feeling the need to strap on my .45 every time I leave the house out of fear that my 9mm doesn't have enough "stopping power." Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn't all that important."
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>>61607586
I’m not reading your faggot zoomer fake statistics and you can’t make me. 9mm is gay. You are gay. Tongue my anus.
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>>61607596
And you're old.
.45 ACP won't fix your hairline, buddy.
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>>61607591
>In conclusion
>9mm is gay but if I call it out for being gay the 9fags will cry and boycott my work
>Please nobody be angry! There’s no right or wrong way to do anything!
>Also I’m trans if it matters
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>>61607619
>Openly admits to homosexuality
Well that’s the first step. 45 shits on 9mm. I win. /thread. Verification not required.
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>>61607591
This is the gayest fence sitting I've ever read. He admits failure rates of lower caliber cartridges are double the common ones then says 'lol go ahead and carry 22' to stay inclusive and not hurt anyone's feelings.
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>>61606892
>>lil bro thinks amby is pointless and then gets insecure about control layouts?
What am I insecure about? I don't want an extra lever or mag release button. It's not that I think it's a nice feature, I actively think it's a terrible one that makes the gun worse.

The only good ambi feature on a pistol is the paddle mag release.
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>>61607738
It's not a cope or fence sitting, it's an analysis of reality.
If you don't hit your target, it doesn't matter what caliber it is, and if you hit your target, all pistol calibers will perform relatively the same.
What's important is shots on target and shot placement, and .45 is inferior to 9mm in that aspect.
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>>61597093
>(allegedly)
Stfu, dummy
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>>61607738
>>61608618
And before you ask "how is .45 inferior to 9mm",I will say one thing and absolutely buck break your train of reasoning;
Muzzle velocity increases hit probability on moving targets, and 9mm is significantly faster than .45.
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>>61597093
not as long as it continues to sell, which it does
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>>61599183
>Turk shit
At least get a RIA or Taurus if you gonna buy 1911's made in their world dumps. I trust Pinoys to be quite intimate with the workings of the 1911 given Americans used it to curb stomp their native uprising and kick the Spanish empire out of Asia prior to that.
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.45acp is dead like .40s&w is dead. The practical applications arent there and the continuing fall in popularity has bore this out. However I think .45acp can continue to live as a cheaper alternative to .45 super or .460 rowland for training. While the latter two cartridges aren't particularly popular, they do function as a 10mm replacement while allowing for .45acp as cheaper practice ammo. Personally I'm a fan of .45 super over 10mm due to the ease in swapping between .45acp and .45 super for outdoors use while also keeping .45acp for my historical firearms.
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>>61606899
Not bad taste regardless of pick anon.
>>61606904
You don't have to believe me then, but thanks to HKucks like you it brings the FNX price tag down. Of course I bought used, all the best deals are used if you're a decent Smith with a decent eye for details you know when to walk away or stick around. I bought mine in 2021.
I don't hate USPs, I hate hype beasts that lie thinking it's a better weapon system despite being wayyyyy older.
>>61608605
>Muh Ambidextrous control gud ur Ambidextrous controls bad!
Look I know you spent too much for an outdated gun but you can just enjoy it without establishing a hierarchy. It's insecure because you fail to acknowledge any of the features the FNX Pioneered yet jump at the jugular because FN slander is trendy now because Russian vatniks, chinamen, and browns fear waffle power in white man hands.
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>>61608745
>I don't hate USPs, I hate hype beasts that lie thinking it's a better weapon system despite being wayyyyy older.

Much better trigger than FNs at least, Match triggers are the only thing keeping them competitive besides 17 and 21 round magazines.
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>>61608618
>shots on target and shot placement
All boils down to how much you practice. If you carry you should practice at least 2x/month. Caliber completely irrelevant in that respect
>but muh ammo prices
Make more money, reload
>but muh recoil
Can be entirely mitigated through dilligent practice
Stay whining 9fags, can't hear you over the boom of my .45 anyways
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>>61597093
I have the opportunity to pick up a $675 USP 9. Should i go for it?
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>>61608641
>foreign shit
Buy an Auto Ordnance 1911, about the same price as all the third world GI style 1911s but made here in the US by the company that made the Thompson.
https://www.auto-ordnance.com/auto-ordnance-1911a1-pistol/
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>>61602979
This one is more the defender hitting the dude in the head than ammo choice. At least you can say 1911 makes it easier to get headshots
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>>61606953
>>61607176
So you can really only get the advantages of 10mm by loading? What kind of velocities and weights are you looking at? And how fast could you get a lightweight 9mm projectile to in 9x25? I'd love to see what one of those zippy copper projectiles would do to gel at 2200+ fps.
>>61607112
That's a fair point, anon, I forgot that differences in velocity between 1k and 2k don't actually matter much here. There's something to be side for light barriers, maybe, but that's really not what handguns should be doing or optimized for outside of specific use cases.
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>>61608777
Would .22lr make decent transferable practice?
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>>61609009
Dude, their GI model is about $300 more than the Tisas one. lol, wat? I got my AO for $500 out the door eight years ago.
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>>61606892
>My gun doesn't have it though so I don't even need to deal with that whatsoever.
The engineer who designed it outright said nobody would notice the difference unless you shoot it from a machine rest, or you're a world class shooter who is more accurate than a machine rest. The reason they added it to the Mark 23 is more to prevent any possible ingress of debris through the barrel bushing area moreso than an accuracy stabilizer, it just happens to do both. You can go without it completely fine, or change them regularly for $5 every twenty thousand rounds. It's not anything to "deal" with, it's a bonus option that you simply do not have.

>>61609082
Retards will say anything to justify spending more, yet will never consider even fingerfucking a Tisas. They're the same quality as any milspec GI 1911 in the sub-$1,000 range, minus the grips.

>>61609009
>by the company that made the Thompson
Colt made a lot of really nice shit back in the day too, this isn't a selling point. Companies change hands, people retire, quality peaks and plummets over time.

>>61608937
without question if only to flip it for more if you don't like it.
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>>61602979
damn George Lucas really doesn't fuck around
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>>61603405
nta, but what is your point?
battle angel is niche, even with the movie.
its not overrated, because it isn't THAT popular
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>>61608745
You have almost singlehandedly convinced me to go with the USP45 Tactical instead of the FNX by being such a melodramatic faggot
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>>61609381
If no one can notice a difference, why do you HKucks shill so hard over it being a feature? If it serves minimal purpose like you claim then why have an entirely new part to just protect against dust when you can design a gun to purge dust from the system (like the FNX)
>>61610209
Fine by me, makes the gun cheaper and easier for future chads to aquire as opposed to paying the "Fuck you poors" tax that the Germans love plastering on.
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>>61610399
>why do you HKucks shill so hard over it being a feature?
Who are you talking about? The voices in your head?
>why have an entirely new part to just protect against dust when you can design a gun to purge dust from the system (like the FNX)
The fuck are you even babbling about?
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>>61610407
Good pivot anon. Very cool.
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>>61610422
Pivot from what? Literally the only person who thinks the gasket is a big deal is you.
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>>61604887
>Be FNH
>Come out with flawed FNP-45 Tactical
>Have most barrels come out with a dimple on a groove
>Have undersized magazines which cant feed ammo over 1.260" COAL
>Have a problem with a trigger to trigger bar pin which walks out under recoil
>Fix it all in the FNH-45
>Tell existing FNP-45 users to get fucked and if they want to have their issues fixed they have to spend over $1k on a new gun that is exactly the same as the old gun minus the markings and fixed flaws
>Pretend that the warranty doesn't exist
I'm still salty more than a decade later
>t. FNP-45 Tactical owner with a 40 Super conversion

p.s. your "compensator" looks like shit and you talk a lot of shit about after market parts but never got things like the limited release extended aluminum safety/decocking levers that some autist on fnhforums made
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>>61606892
>>61610977
>I got my FNX-45 tac with 5 15 mags for 600 dollars
And this is a terribad larp. I paid $1100 for my FNP-45 Tactical back in the late 2000s
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>>61610998
>late 2000s
maybe early 2010s, it was whenever it came out in black



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