Why don't we have a naval base in the San Francisco Bay now?I mean I know why, but would it be a terrible idea to reopen Alameda? I genuinely don't know.
>>61965813I'm sorry, I meant to specify "serious answers only".
>>61965804Cost
>>61965818Have you seen San Fran? That’s not unserious.
>>61965826Yeah, but what if we ignored that
>>61965804All USN operations were consolidated at San Diego at the end of the Cold War because it >was already the largest base on the West Coast>is substantially closer to Hawaii (and Naval Station Pearl Harbor), requiring a full day's less sailing to reach it>shares its proximity with Camp Pendleton (allowing for rapid embarkation of Marines during a crisis) As for why NAS Alameda can't be reopened now, virtually all of the base's infrastructure was either sold off to private real estate developers, demolished, or simply left to rust because they were on ground that is so badly contaminated that it led to the base being declared a Superfund site. You would have to rebuild basically all of it from scratch.
>>61965804Mythbusters needed a place to fuck around
>>61965818Oh, have you considered reddit then you faggot?
>>61965804carriers would be stolen in hours
>>61965804Some weirdo Russian dude stole some nuclear fuel from it in the 80s and they never lived it down
>>61965804local kids gotta have a place to go tag and smoke
>>61965913he saved the whales though
>>61965861This is a good answer, thank you.
>>61965861>>61965965>distance from san francisco to pearl harbor: 2,398 mi>distance from san diego to pearl harbor: 2,614.17 miWTF
>>61965975I mean San Diego is east of Reno.
>>61965975lmao we're so fucked
>>61965835Except it is
>>61965997don't you worry, the officer corps still preserves forever white charisma and asian focus.
>>61965975I'm surprised that because San Diego is located further east than San Francisco that it's farther away from Hawaii than San Francisco is to Hawaii.
>>61966006u are wrong
>>61966063navy chicks are the best to hook up with, though. the sailors are all gay so you know they weren't touched on deployment.
>>61966063bob cut asian chick, hnnnnngher look of icy contempt does it for me
>>61965818Maybe you should ask a serious question, then.
>>61965997I know! We might as well surrender to Kaiser Bill right now.
>>61966216those are all white women
>>61965804who cares about peacetime shit, be realin wartime, everything changes
>>61965913>>61965941>Ver arr da nuke we are wwwessos?>Wweeess soes?
>>61965997>we're so fuckedMaybe, did they will be for sure!
>>61965813I didn't know there were a ton of Russians in the Bay Area.
>>61966063TALL BLONDE WOMEN LOVE!!
>>61966257Not by 1910s standards.
>>61966828>cost is 20 time higherit the PUCCNR strain of HIV that bad?
>>61966148Excellent taste.
>>61965975They're the ones they assign to cooking and cleaning toilets right.... r-right?
>>61966257We might as well surrender to Hideki Tojoright now.
>>61967052>It is a social standard to adorn your oral erognnious zone with a visual attractor >DO IT NOW
>>61966828KekThere really are a decent amount for some reason
>>61966828The Bay Area actually has one of the oldest Russian communities in the country
>>61965975Holy shit. Is that Indira Gandhi?
They are worried they might make San Francisco too gay if they put a navy base there.
>>61965804Some russian found out where we were keeping the nuclear wessels in the 80s so we had to move them.
>>61965818Go back We literally have thousands of cccp assets in San Fran. Fucking senator Feinstein had a Chinese spy driver for 20 years
>>61965997t. $20/hr blue collar
>>61965839>I'm sorry, I meant to specify "serious answers only".
>>61965975What actually bothers me in this image is that they are not all holding the paper in the same hand. Why does that one retard have it in her right hand?She'd be saluting herself in the mirror for many hours to fix that habit.
>>61966828theres actually a fair fewthey all live in los gatos for some reason
>>61967452thats actually why they got rid of hunter's pointit was so gay it was radioactively gay so they got rid of it in the 60's but by that time it had already starting leaking to the populace
>>61965913Can you show me where they keep the nuclear wessels?
>>61966063>taking orders from females who can't park a carwhat a fucking clown show >>61965804I'm not sure about anywhere else but there has been a systematic removal of military infrastructure in California.
>>61966006San Fransisco is now a hell of aliens and jewish bolshevik politics. You have a lot of defense contractors who engage in illegal domestic spying while every local business is overwhelmed with street crime. No one living there has kids because the parents are fags, they teach kids be be fags, and they flood the city with aliens. Street shitters will sleep on bunk beds in a 1 bedroom apartment while working for the tech companies that are destroying every place that can access their content. You can't have a normal family where dad goes to work and mom stays home because everyone has been priced out of the city. It's a totally unsustainable society that has spiraled out of control. If you stay at a hotel there, they will warn you not to walk around in the city after dark. Try it yourself. Be sure to leave anything in your car that looks like it has value.
>>61967131>Is that Indira Gandhi?based
>>61966127Have at them, the sailors already moved on to running a train on your wife anyway. Congrats on the new kid BTW. Oh... you didn't know?
>>61965861ok build it from scratch
>>61972248>Coupla rakes>Coupla cans if paintWhy aren't they done yet?
>>61965871You should.
>>61965804The city government is virulently anti-military. They once forced a mueseum ship (battleship Iowa) to be located in the city, and moved out of their jurisdiction.The Navy is not going to open a base where they are not WANTED, regardless of other factors. SF may have been a Navy town once, but not anymore.https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/SAN-FRANCISCO-Supes-torpedo-efforts-to-land-old-2622567.php
The SF government has also made efforts to chase military recruiters out of the city.https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/humboldt-county-cities-restrict-military-3163386.php
>>61965804We already have naval bases in San Diego and Seattle plus Yokosuka. To build another Pacific naval base the same size as these ones would be extremely expensive and unnecessary.
>>61972659>The Navy is not going to open a base where they are not WANTEDLike the Phil?
>>61972659yeah but I bet those sailors would LOVE to go to San Fag
>>61972659Alameda isn't San Francisco though
>>61972248Wouldn't that be preferable to WW2 hand-me-downs?
>>61970075>systematic removal of military infrastructure in California.We sold Long abeach to the Chinese to cover our interest on national debt. 8t is now Chinese sovereign territory. Most people don't know that. That was under Clinton.
>>61975207I think it's across the bay in Alameda.
>>61972814What if we built another facility in New York to even it out?
>>61966127>military womenGross, you can have them. More bussy for me.
>>61975270That's what I said... in Alameda.
>>61975263This never happened.
>>61971878Kek anon speaking from experience?
Why is it so hard for people to distinguish between the San Francisco Bay and the City of San Francisco? I know generally the average American is geographically challenged but this is literally one of the most significant areas in our country.
>>61975347Bruh the average IQ is 100.
>>61966063I met not one but two asian math majors at Swarthmore and at Byrn Mawr who were rejected from the US Naval Academy. I was shocked that Asian Bookworm Girls applying to the fucking Navy was even a thing.
>>61975319It's already history, dude. They have been secretly digging the underground silos and bunkers for years now. You just don't know about it. They slurry the dirt into the sewage system.
>>61975347>>61975355It's a big fucking country and no one cares what's happening in the next town over, let alone the next state over. It has literally nothing to do with IQ.
>>61975389If you can't distinguish between a bay and a city because of willful ignorance maybe you shouldn't be involved in a discussion regarding the location of naval bases.
>>61975306
>>61975403>Bay City RollersOk tough guy explaining this one now to me.
>>61975364There's a lot of jobs for people good at math on a boat, or working logistics.
>>61975403Am I involved in a discussion regarding the location of naval bases? Hmmmmm?No, I'm involved in a discussion about Americans being "geographically challenged".Take your meds.
>>61975364>Asian Bookworm Girls>>61975435>jobs for people good at math on my cock
>>61965997In peacetime, the military is the last resort of men who failed high school. Women have far more societal safety net before they need to resort to enlisting. Meaning, the military get women who can't even become whores. Why are you surprised?
>>61965975notice who is standing at attention
>>61965804That's one of the top ten most violent places in America. Nothing is built. Nothing can be rebuilt. Everything is priced out. The rich are trying to drive most of the people out of the bay now and they have it down to 70% of where it was 5 years ago. They aren't letting up. It's going to be like the Hamptons. They aren't going to build a base there. It will be hyper rich people and high level colleges.
>>61976176>Whoring>Social safety netAnon, I...
>>61975347Because the distinction between the two is meaningless except to the people who live there.
>>61976284>That's one of the top ten most violent places in America.Oh no, how will the military cope
>>61965861>we lost the technology
>>61965804I grew up in the bay area and lived in SF for about 10 years. Culturally and politically the population there absolutely hates anything related to the military. It's ingrained into students at every step of their education, all the way through university. Corrupt local government uses every tool at their disposal to obstruct any development associated with the military. See the Hunters Point debacle, where local "experts" hired by known corrupt politicians determined the site is contaminated and the navy needs to hire locals at extraordinary costs to "clean it up". I would be surprised if the Navy wants anything to do with that kind of adversarial host.What's sad is that the whole area and semiconductor industry was established because of defense contractors doing broadly technical work there (lockheed, shockley, fairchild). Now we have H1Bs defecating advertising based web apps. Pretty sad.
>>61979855>Now we have H1Bs defecating advertising based web apps. Pretty sad.Is it more sad than homeless people and drug addicts defecating in front of businesses?
>>61979855Are you being stupid on purpose?
>>61965861>badly contaminated that it led to the base being declared a Superfund site.and fyi nothing will ever happen there until its not a superfund site and making not that is like 20 years worth of work. One of the partners at my firm when I started had basically spent his entire career handling the legal side of a single superfund cleanup. Its all he did. It wasnt a big one either, just an old mine in Idaho.
>>61966216>>61967052Supreme cope
>>61983803>you're coping Why? Brown person does menial job (but in a uniform!) thus the West has fallen?
>>61979855Damn, I didn’t know SF was so based.
>>61983850I feel demoralized oh no
>>61983888Yeah, you tell 'em Steve Dave
>>61983850>>61983888what not having sex does to a nigga
>>61983850>>61983888post guns
>>61965804> I mean I know why, but would it be a terrible idea to reopen Alameda?While the “official” reason for the base getting closed was the budget cuts due to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and as someone else pointed out:>>61965861> All USN operations were consolidated at San Diego at the end of the Cold War because…This could be the furthest thing from the truth. The base was shut down after the collapse of the USSR because its purpose as a COINTELPRO center ceased.The KGB was running a massive intelligence program in San Francisco, mostly by infiltrating the gay community there, who happened to have a lot of… You guessed it… Sailors.After the KGB funding dried up and the FSB was focused on internal problems, the need for this base ceased.Plus, in the late 80s there was a MASSIVE amount of sailors who were diagnosed with AIDS, specially at that base (remember, this was before DADT was repealed). The Navy needed to cover that shit up immediately.Anyway, I can’t tell you guys who I am, so you’ll just have to take my word here.
>>61983925Thanks anonymous gay expert
>>61983925I'm sure it's a lot better now.
>>61965804My grandad fr hollowed out my grandma at Treasure Island / Alameda. Couple of sluts desu.
>>61983948Yeah, it’s all funnies, until Sailor Rodriguez has a few too many at the gay bar and starts spilling secrets to the Soviets like he’s literally on an episode of Project Veritas.We were booking so many of these sailors there that the entire fleet from the Admirals down had to be fed false information just to figure out where the fucking leaks were coming from like a bad game of telephone.And the shit was always traced back to the gay scene. Always.
>>61984350Like I said, I'm sure it's a lot better now.
>>61983925>so you’ll just have to take my word here.Sounds like you're just salty you can afford it heret. Atherton resident
>>61965997hows that welding job going
>>61965804its san FranciscoIts gonna get filled with poop, homeless and drug dealers, the hobos with steal the copper wires of the nuclear reactor like how they stole a M48 patton
>>61984172Tell us more? Pics?
>>61984429I’ve since retired, friend. The Cold War is over, people like me, there’s no use for us any longer.>GWOTNot a real war.
>>61984732>>GWOT>Not a real war.>SMO>Not a real war.
>>61984819The GWOT was a war on American freedom with things like the Patriot Act. It wasn’t a war against an enemy, just our middle class. Why do you think we booted out the Taliban just to grow opium?
