>risk blowing dick off>risk blowing major artery in leghow do people carry without paranoia?
>>61967329Many, many, more people drive in cars despite the risk of wrecks and that doesn't seem to bother people. In other words, people's ability to assess risk is very inconsistent. People take bigger risks every day and think nothing of it, and simultaneously they worry their ass off about things that are actually less dangerous.
>>61967329if ghosts can move furniture and open cabinets, they can pull your trigger
>>61967339Only if it's a Sig.
>>61967348Those go off even when ghosts aren't involved.
>>61967372A Glock has a half-cocked striker and firing pin safety, it's perfectly safe. As long as you ensure you're not retarded and using a bad holster made of leather
>>61967329I carry a scythe which doubles up as a walking stick then the ground is slippery so I have no such fears
>>61967397nta but this can be avoided by using a gun with ACTUAL safety features, not the bare minimum.
Just don't carry with 1 in the chamber and practice a LOT of drawing and racking the slide in one motion to make it a habit.
>>61967492t. retard who uses leather holsters so he can distance himself from kydex 'tryhards'
>>61967329Don't carry SIGsimple as.
>>61967329>how do people carry without paranoia?Try carrying a gun cocked with an empty chamber if it worries you. Then wait X number of days to find out the trigger never goes off by itself>exception to Sig and TaurusAlso get a good Kydex holster made specifically for your gun, not something that fits multiple things>unless it's literally the same gun design, e..g Glock 17, 19, 22, 23, 26, 27, etc.Keep your holster cleanKydex cause it doesn't warp>oh and don't leave it on your dashboard in the sun during the summer cause it will warpMost importantly, pay very close attention every time you holster, even if you know i'ts empty. Keep your shirt well out of the way when you holster too>gun design choices you can consider for extra peace of mind:>DA/SA gunHeavy DA trigger means you're less likely to have the trigger depress accidentally>DecockerIt is practically impossible for any modern gun design to be able to fire if the firing pin/striker is not cocked at all.1911s are a possible exception to this, but that's another storyMoving on:>Thumb safetyObvious, right? But presents a training issue, or you can use it to just holster, then disengage it, if possible.>External hammer (with DA)Keep your thumb on the hammer, if the trigger starts to depress your thumb will feel it
>>61967630Glocks have gone off in kydex holsters as well, and then idiots like you shift the goalposts again. The whole point of a safety is to stop pulling the trigger from firing the firearm. If something pulling the trigger defeats your "safety," it isn't one.
>>61967670>The whole point of a safety is to stop pulling the trigger from firing the firearmThat's a stupid and simplistic definition. Many guns can go off if they are dropped even though the trigger isn't pulled. Why do you want to restrict the definition of a "safety" to only apply to trigger pulls?
>>61967329Carrying a modern DA/SA gun with firing pin block that works
Empty chamber, don't go for a quickdraw.Find cover or just a more advantageous position in general depending on the situation, not that anyone can really plan when they're going to need to shoot. But I think there are quite a few shootouts even with police where both sides magdump and no one is hit, so move quickly, prepare your gun, then aim more carefully.
>>61967712Carrying a empty gun is carrying a fucking paper weight
>>61967689Because that's the only kind of safety relevant to a discussion about preventing the firearm from going off by pulling the trigger, whether it is pulled by a leather holster or a shirt's hem.
>>61967811>Because that's the only kind of safety relevant to a discussionYeah, but you sound like an idiot when you claim there's no such thing as a drop safety, therefore nobody is going to listen to you.
>>61967329That's not a sig p320For real though you're an idiot bitch and know nothing about holsters, guns, or retention.
>>61967692or just a modern DA/SA with the hammer down.
>>61967827Okay sophist.
>>61967850Cocked and locked is perfectly fine with a modern DA/SA gun Personally I use a decocker only Beretta 92G LTT Elite and carry it always chambered, hammer down.You're retarded if you don't carry chambered anyways
>>61967329Gun safeties were solved a century ago.
>>61967867yeah, thats what I am saying. CZ75 PCR, load it and just drop the hammer then put it in a kydex holster. You could be in a horrific 90 mile an hour car accident and pull a gorillion g's and have the gun fly 200 yards and it wouldnt go off.
>>61967868Tell that to SIG lmao
>>61967329>how do people carry without paranoia?if you are retarded you don't worry
>>61967329if I shoot myself in the cock, the arterial bleed better kill me or im going to kill myself anyway. why worry about it it if the end result is instant death
>>61967329Why don't they make the front of pistol holsters out of a couple dozen layers of kevlar or s-glass to catch any negligent discharges?
>>61967329You get a DA/SA pistol and never have to worry about this for the rest of your life
>>61967329i pocket carry unchambered. though i could carry with the hammer uncocked as well since i carry a single action pistol. oh and all of that is without even relying on or thinking of the mechanical safety.
>>61967329This shit has got to be the most white collar gun phobia I've ever heard of. Have people never used power tools or utility equipment? Never been around machine shops or processing plants? What existence do these people live? Hell my Jesus blessed down syndrome cousin crushes cardboard 2 hours a day and he is one sneeze away from losing an arm during those 2 hours. You have to be some kind of fucked up to worry about shooting yourself on a draw.
>>6196732910 lb trigger.
>>61967329>how do people carry without paranoia?1. Don't have the cheapest shitass holster or a floppy leather one. 2. Practice drawing and reholstering at home with an empty gun. Keep your finger out of the trigger guard and drill till it feels as natural as buttoning a shirt. 3. Trigger time with your carry gun(s) until you aren't worried about it going off. 4. Use the same one or two carry guns, don't cycle through a ton of different ones with different features/safeties/actions/triggers. Example: my EDC is a Glock 23 and I take an LCP to the gym/running, nothing else. 5. Carry the same WAY as often as possible. Same side, same type of holster, etc. Whether it's cocked & locked, empty chamber, loaded chamber, half cock, whatever, you should never have a millisecond of doubt what state it's in. Personally, I carry guns that don't have a safety and keep one in the chamber. But it's consistent 100% of the time and I practice drawing that way. 6. >don't carry a Sig>>61967348>>61967667>>61967845>>61967885
>>61967329By not carrying a SIG or Glock
I carry by putting it behind me, that way If it goes off the bullet will go between my ass cheeks instead of my leg or balls.
>>61967329I don't get it. There's nothing wrong with 4 o'clock.
>>61967339Fuck ghosts! They're gonna have to chamber a round first then pull my trigger.
>>61967329I don't care about shooting myself in the dick, I just don't understand how folks carry appendix all day. I tried for a month and nearly every day I had to take it off because it was that uncomfortable. Went 4 o' clock and haven't looked back.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8wurWgLr1JAPut condoms on your gun to catch stray bullets
>>61967329I carry cocked and locked in a kydex holster because I'm not a fucking retard
>>61967329just carry it in your hand
>>61967720It’s worse than carrying a paperweight. A paperweight is a lot less likely to get you shot by someone else.
>>61967712>Find cover or just a more advantageous positionThat's a good way to get a murder charge. You aren't law enforcement, unless you are shooting in defense of others or stopping a armed robbery, retreating away to where you aren't being pursued and then chambering a round to reengage is how you get yourself charged. Just keep walking away from the person.
>>61967329>how do people carry without paranoia?You do it every day and somewhere along the line you forget about it. Before you know it it's 30 years later and you never shot your dick off.
>>61967712Worst advice ITT.
>>61967329>>risk blowing dick offMy pp is too small so it wont get hit
>>61967329It works best if you don't have a dick.
>>61967329DA exposed hammer in a proper holster>>61967338To be fair I'd rather burn to death in a car wreck than shoot my penis off
>>61970798>unless you are shooting in defense of others or stopping a armed robberyIs that not what we're discussing?If you're anticipating a quickdraw from being held up at gunpoint, there's just not a whole lot of options.Or are you pretending to be the police of your own description, walking up to someone you pulled over and expecting to quickdraw as they turn in their car to start shooting at you?What is the scenario that you are envisioning that needs this kind of silliness.
>>61967670>Glocks have gone off in kydex holsters as wellWhen?
>>61967668>Most importantly, pay very close attention every time you holster, even if you know i'ts empty. Keep your shirt well out of the way when you holster tooI just avoid that situation entirely and take the holster out of my pants, point it in a safe direction to reholster.
>>61967712this is the single dumbest thing I've read this year so far
>>61967329ok
>>61967329so now you're a sniper?
>>61967492>ACTUAL safety measuresThe glock has multiple. It's part of why they're so popular.
>>61971253>WhenWhen a retard gets something in the holster that can depress the trigger.
>>61971697True. But seeing as it happened to a retard, nothing of value was lost. In fact, it could be argued that it was a net gain for posterity.
>>61971731Glocks are bad because the lack of safety means anyone can yank it from you and be ready to use it with a pull of the trigger.
>>61972133>obese cop using a leather holster instead of a retention holsterwhat a dumb boomer retard
>>61972133Anyone can put their own gun to the back of your head any time they like if you're paying that little attention. If you want to cover retarded edge cases, you're going to have to ban guns. And cars, and power tools, and bricks.
>>61971697it's MECHANICALLY impossible unless the kydex was so fucking thin it could flex into the trigger guard and depress not only the safety on the trigger (weird angle for part of your leg or pants to stick so far into) but the trigger itself enough to go off>>61972133idk like don't get disarmed maybe faggot lmao?
>>61971697I fucking knew you were going to post that video. That's not in the holster, that's something catching the modified trigger as it's going into the holster. The only modern handgun I know of that has gone off inside a holster is a p320. This video can also be avoided entirely by taking out the holster before putting the gun in it.
>>61971286I take off my pants with my holster, then reholster into my pants in a safe direction, then put my pants back on. It’s safer than fiddling with a holster with a loaded gun in it
>>61967329I'd prolly go with something like this if I was carrying on me
>>61973579can you be 100% sure it won't go off in the store waiting line or when your mom's making thanks giving dinner?
>>61973591I don't carry a Sig, so yeah.
>>61973126>gone off inside a holsterBetter to say "when properly holstered".Idiots are really fucking creative, I'm sure somebody's managed to leg himself with a DAO service revolver.
>>61967329I carry a Beretta 92, so I don't have to worry. Sucks to suck OP
>>61973126>>61974414Doesn't matter, a manual safety would have prevented this from happening if it were engaged. The lengths strikershitters go...
>>61974574>if it were engagedSee "properly holstered". Everything works when it works and doesn't when it doesn't. It's perfect;y possible to knock a manual safety off and not notice if you're the kind of mouth breather that Glocks himself.
>>61967329Looks like 1911?1 in the tube and hammer back safety on. So what is wrong?
>>61974747Still one more point of failure before the gun fires compared to safetyless guns. And as long as the safety is on I don't have to worry about the consequences of improper holstering too much.Also broadly speaking, people tend to say good holsters make safetyless guns safer. But a gun doesn't spend all its time inside a holster. Does that mean a gun without a manual safety is more dangerous whenever its outside a proper holster? I shouldn't have to buy another thing just to make my gun safer when I can just flick a switch instead.
>>61974883>one more point of failure>I don't have to worry about the consequencesUntil your shitty leather holster flicks the safety off and your 2lb trigger touches a stray pube, and you don't notice because you have a safety so you're safe.You are now the improved idiot that makes idiotproofing impossible.
>>61967329Don't carry a nigger gun, get a beretta and use the safety.>Glock niggers go away
>>61971193I'd take a shot penis over a gasoline-burned one. At least it's quick.
>>61974414They said "gone off inside a kydex holster" implying that it was inside a holster and went off despite being handled perfectly. I didn't come up with that.>>61974574Also wouldn't happen if they didn't point the gun at their nuts while reholstering so it does matter. >>61974883>point of failureIsn't a safety one more point of failure when drawing and firing? Which is kind of the more important part for a firearm? I just don't get that if a handgun is safe in a proper holster and when I point it at my target I don't want it to be safe, why we need to cover the small amount of time between the holster and aiming. Especially when you're probably flicking the safety off at some point during this time which still opens you up for an ND ala Tex Greener.
>>61967338Yeah but you don't drive while doing something else as a focus.You might briefly look away or divert your attention (and even that is technically illegal road behavior), but anyone driving is going to be spending that time paying at least the majority of their focus on handling the vehicle and avoiding danger.When you're carrying, you're not paying that kind of attention (unless you're paranoid like OP says). You're putting yourself at a low risk of a high hazard, and then not paying attention to the risk.>>61967329Get a good gun that's considered to be appendix carriable with minimal risk.Get a good holster that's designed to support carry and prevent this ND's. Not a cheap holster, not an old-fashioned holster, a modern one with a modern design and modern safety standards. Ideally, one designed to be compatible with the gun you have.Carry without having one in the chamber because that mitigates practical risk, and highly reduces overall risk.Consider getting a pocket pistol to put in a jacket pocket instead.Consider changing carry position to the 4 o clock position which has reduced hazard.There are many ways to reduce hazard and risk. Ultimately I still advocate for not carrying if you don't have a genuine reason to think you'll need to use it, but anons can do what they want.
>>61975888>I still advocate for not carrying if you don't have a genuine reason to think you'll need to use itRetarded or black (and therefore also retarded)?
>>61972133Open carrying without an active retention holster is crazy
>>61975888If you think you'll need it then don't go. You can't pick where something bad will happen.
>>61973579Nice. Now just move somewhere where the temp doesn't get above 70 degrees so you can always wear a jacket.
>>61975936Anon it's common sense. If you come from O-block, stay strapped or get clapped is very literal, but realistically a lot of people itt will never have to, or get the chance to, fire a CCW in their lives. If you are one of those people, habit carrying a CCW may actually be harmful for you, both in the extra hassles it may cause, and in how the weight (or its absence) can determine self-confidence or personal security.>>61976524Correct, when talking about a specific situation.I more meant in general life and lifestyle. There is a certain risk of a situation requiring a CCW. It is not very big at all, but some people will have a bigger one than others. For some it will be an insignificant chance not worth considering (where I'd then recommend not habit carrying, at least on your person), and for others it will be a small but still significant risk, due to the high hazard. In those cases, I advise carrying.You should always have a gun in your car however. Preferably something with a brace or a stock.
>>61967339THIS
>>61976705>go to places you think you have a good chance of getting into a gunfight>common senseMup da do didda gub ho, muhfugen bix nood.
>>61976705>Car gunsI see this meme constantly, and I've still never heard of anyone actually using one for anything other than fucking up a cop trying to give you a speeding ticket.
>>61976816there's a video of that guy accidentally driving into a protest during the great 2020 chimpout and people trying to drag him out of the car. He used a pistol in the car to blast some faggot pointing an AK at him and managed to get out of dodge. Not sure if that counts as a car gun tho
>>61976705>the habit of CCW may be harmful to youLiterally how? You know what maybe you shouldn't be carrying.
>>61967329if you are constantly paranoid over things that won't happen, you should not be owning or carrying a gun in the first place
>>61967329When I first started to carry, I thought to be extra safe and carry safety on and empty chamber. After about 2 weeks I realized that was fucking stupid. Have a good holster and don't be an idiot. I now carry a cocked and locked as God intended.My biggest paranoia now is that some yuppy antigunner will see it and freak out, making a scene. But the worry about accidently shooting yourself? Non-existent.
>>61967329My carry gun has a manual safety. I replace the firing pin spring every couple months. It's not that hard.
>>61967329Locked and uncocked, simple as.
>>61974883>I don't have to handle my gun safely because the safety switch does it for meyou're the same type of retard who will point your gun at other people and say "don't worry the safety's on", aren't you?
