which gun was the most mechanically simple of its type? especially interested to hear contenders for lever actions since i cant think of manyid say the carcano was easily the most mechanically simple bolt action. maybe followed by the arisaka
for direct blowback i think the uru smg takes the cake. while the sten mk2 is the simpler gun overall the uru smg has a trigger mechanism which is essentially just a funny shaped piece of metal being pushed down on a flatspring. even the stens trigger is more complicated
the lee navy might be the simplest version of a straight pull. since it is just a tilting bolt desing instead of rotating bolts like the mannlicher
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>>61974856Rolling block for singles. Unless you count an interrupted screw breech like the RN50.
Carcano bolt is simple.
>>61974856Lever actions aren't simple too any degree. Blowback pistols are the simplest by default. Although the good old single shot 12 gauge is technically the most simple in terms of parts used. What matric are we using to determine simple? Simplicity in it's function/firing, or simplicity in terms of number of parts.
>>61975587Derringers also come to mind
>>61975587>Although the good old single shot 12 gauge is technically the most simple in terms of parts used.A cheap one, perhaps. Depending on what type of lock the gun has a break action can be very complex inside.
>>61974856I got you, homie
>>61974856>contenders for lever actionsWinchester 1873 is pretty damn simple, it's just a toggle link.
>>61975576i didnt even know that existed. maybe the ptrd 41 could rival it if the trigger mechanism of the rn50 is complex enough but i doubt it>>61975587i meant simplest in its category. otherwise nothing beats a handgonne or early schießbecher. aka just a big with a touch hole for a match. and number of parts of the action would be my choice. otherwise we will get bogged down by numbers of barrel bands or screws in the buttplate>>61975634isnt the briggs less parts than a 1873 winchester? since thats one piece of metal instead of the separate parts of a toggle with pins to hold it together
>>61975623Based handgonne poster
>>61975576I don't think the Royal is even interrupted
>>61975698Correct. It's just a threaded breech cap.The "break action" is just there to hold the stock, grip, and trigger assembly, and the ears on the receiver are there so that an inept user can't close the action and fire the gun with the cap partially unscrewed (headspace out of whack).
>>61975609Cobray Terminator might be simpler than a break-action single barrel shotty.
>>61975698>>61975727I cannot believe they couldn't have used a Welin design for near negligibly more cost.
>>61975756>near negligibly more cost.Interrupted threads are be FAR more expensive to machine than a screw-on cap. That one design change would double the cost of the gun.
>>61975576winchester thumb trigger was also quite simple. with one weirdly shaped flatspring being the trigger, sear, and spring all in onecould be even simpler in terms of parts than the rn50 or rolling block
The Greener "Emperor" action is the simplest I've seen for a break-action gun.
Spotting rifles are basically min-maxed for simplicity. Like this one, which is essentially a simplified version of the FAL. Pretty sure you can find good animations of it out there, "M8C"
>>61974856I think the Gwinn Bushmaster is about as simple as you could practically make a 'good' assault rifle.
>>61975959I've never seen a thumb trigger model, but that patent drawing shows largely the same mechanism as the conventional-trigger members of the same 1902/1904/60/67 lineage.Specifically, the weird-shaped, all-in-one piece is a rigid part pressed up by a separate flatspring. And in addition to the roles mentioned, that piece also serves as an extractor/ejector, a bolt detent, and a bolt stop.No discussion of simple actions is complete without Browning's even simpler design, though. Open-bolt falling block, the breechblock (along with it's spring) is the only moving part.
>>61977942Best part is it was a bet.Design a rifle in 24 hours. He delivered the drawings to the Winchester rep at breakfast.
>>61977044how is the action of that any simpler than any other gas operated rifle? alsonthe shared up design really reminds me of a wh40k lasgun
