MESSAGE TO D/F GROUP LARVIK FROM D/F GROUP OSLO: INFORMATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM BERLIN THAT THERE IS A SPY OPERATING FROM THE LARVIK AREA. IT IS TRIANGULATED FROM KCGE, ZELONOGRADSK AND BRUSSELS. THE SPY OPERATES ON 3600 KHZ. RECENTLY ONLY A CARRIER HAS BEEN SENT. MISSION: FIND SPY'S LOCATION. https://youtu.be/6mSy-iA8r2w
post spy comms, faggots>picrel
>>62023894nice
https://cryptomuseum.com/df/telefunken/pe484/index.htm
>watch out, I'm gonna STU all over the table
bug-technology in the seventies went hard
>>62025272Never shows up in any kino. Missed opportunity imo.
>"Belly Buster" Hand-Crank Audio Drill>CIA used the “Belly Buster” drill during the late 1950s and early 1960s. It would drill holes into masonry for implanting audio devices. After assembly, the base of the drill was held firmly against the stomach while the handle was cranked manually. This kit came with several drill bits and accessories.
>>62025272https://cryptomuseum.com/df/basedka/index.htm
>>62025957these were replaced by silent power drills which are still restricted tech in a lot of countries
>>62027699>silent power drills which are still restricted techHow silent? Hadn't heard of such restrictions.
>>62025385What does STU do?
>>62027656>basedkaEven URLs are affected, there's nothing sacred anymore.
>>62027699>silent power drills which are still restricted techwtf
>>62031298It is a slav world and you're living in it))))
>>62025385Remember reading about these in Tom Clancy novels as a young lad, started a whole fascination with cryptography for me.God only knows how many spooks and glowies that King Autist spawned lmao.
>>62031298Ah shit. I forgot the filter is that incompetent. replace based with the söybean.
>>62031348Fajnie, a teraz wypierdalaj :)
>>62023807I love that guys videos and the gear he has.
>>62023894The only spy goody i've got is a digital decoder salvaged from a Clarinet Bullseye communications intercept station that had a Fred-10 CDAA.
>>62035393Yeah he makes nice stuff
>>62023807Im in the Larvik area rn, send me the location chief and ill take care of it
>>62037179>tfwywn experience the unmatched high of gutting open a communist, pushing your blade deeper into his stomach with each trust, hearing his worthless russoid jabber getting quieter and quieter in your ear
>>62037776
>>62037179Precisely what the spy would say...
>>62040029Only a spy would accuse another man of being a spy for wanting to help...
>>62035393Dangerously comfy.https://youtu.be/-xU3o83ddi8
https://youtu.be/1JgUnsizyws
Kolibrie was cool, imo.https://cryptomuseum.com/df/kolibrie/index.htm
>>62024146the worlds first rfid chip.what were they trying to do with it?
>>62045151They were listening to embassy talk. Recently a guy remade it to test how well it works, I'll find it for you in a bit.
>>62027656Basedka
>>62035418Pics?
>>62045151>>62048496https://youtu.be/GyryQltyDwA
>>62035418>mfw someone mentions owning old comms or crypto equipment and I have no idea what any of the words mean
>>62027699>still restricted tech in a lot of countriesHow does this work with cryptography, anyway? I know some guys have been prosecuted by the US for providing pariah states with encryption know-how, but it generally seems to be in the context of money laundering, cryptocurrency, and so forth.For instance, is doing something as simple as crossing the border into Best Korea with an HSM in your bags considered an EAR violation?I don't fully understand how you're supposed to keep your shit straight in E:1 countries. Do groups with approved business in shitholes have carve-outs for keeping secure while they operate there?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States
>>62053945I have simpler questions than that. Like. What is the most recent key loader you can legally own as milsurp?
>>62055390Motorola ASTRO Saber iirc
>>62055406That was fast. I take it you've been where I am before. Own any?
>>62051828Nothing too special. It's just a Universal M-7000 decoder. My unit has BNC video outputs instead of the normal RCA style. The IC's inside have 1988 & 1989 date codes so 1989 vintage? One chip may have a Feb 1990 date code. These were phased out in 1995 & ordered destroyed. A tech *cough* repurposed several of them into private hands (other military officers who were into the radio hobby). I stumbled on it last year. I noticed the rack-mount tabs in his pic and knew they weren't common for hobbyists. I inquired about it and then the story came out. He's a long retired career military who needed to downsize. He told me its origin and use. My unit was paired with another so that it was capable of monitoring the duplex teletype circuits of the Soviet Red Banner Pacific Fleet and Red Banner Northern Fleet among other targets. I was able to verify its provenance and thought it would be neat to have.The M-6000 I bought off an SWL'er in 1990 who wanted to upgrade to the newer M-7000. I use it primarily to listen to a NAVTEX station in my region.
>>62053609No problem.>Project Bullseye or Classic BullseyeA formerly top secret program that intercepted and direction find (DF'ed) Soviet HF communications. It was instrumental in tracking down Soviet sub burst comms during Cuban Missile crisis. "Clarinet Bullseye" was a sub-program dedicated mostly to Sov naval comms.>Fred-10 CDAANickname for the AN/FRD-10 Circular Disposed Antenna Array. Also known as "the elephant cage". Big huge antennas. Worth looking up. Most are gone but there is a pair in Canada and I think a couple in Germany? One in Alaska. Interestingly Japan has been building up a network of them over the last few years. But I think those are "Pusher" types... not as big as the FRD-10's.
>>62055804No, but I was doing some research into older radio stuff for reenactment. If I remember correctly, The KVL-3000 isn't rare. Only thing is I'm not sure what's involved in the actual programming of the software. ASTRO Saber software is easy to yarhar and will let you program like you typically would, but I can't remember if it supports programming the keyloader itself
>>62057235>>62057270Super interesting but I have work and I fear the thread will be dead by the time I'm back to ask a million annoying questions D:We should have another radio/comm general sometime soon.
>>62058049Interesting, thanks for pointers. Is there a scene for hacking these? Defcon village or the like?
>>62044727the nineties was wild. Beautiful device. picrel the Unitel 225 portable surveillance receiver-recorderwhile SDRs are nice, they seriously lack sovl>>62029584Secure telephony/faxing>>62031487>God only knows how many spooks and glowies that King Autist spawned lmao.kek>>62057235>My unit was paired with another so that it was capable of monitoring the duplex teletype circuits of the Soviet Red Banner Pacific Fleet and Red Banner Northern Fleet among other targets.>I was able to verify its provenance10/10 very sick>>62059826the larp boys have a habit of scooping up KVLs to use with P25 XTS radios. Lots of fun playing with those kind of radio's. Just don't ever buy 700/800MHz unless your gonna cannibalize them for their parts. But you can use an Arduino as a KVL instead.If you have to wait a while to look for a nice deal on a UHF XTS5000, you could in the meantime play with cheap (10-30$) old motorola mobile radios, you'll need a so-called rib box, a serial port and sometimes windows xp. but the radios themselves are neigh indestructible and make great analog clunkers. you can find info on batlabs for making your own cables. software is called cps for customer programming software. or skip that and go straight digital, but analog is more forgiving with its learning curve, and to later get into digital radios.
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>>62025957Watching someone use that, belly against a wall and right hand 'crankin' something, would be rather humorous
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>>62060625To be fair, "sex offender" is as good a cover as you'll get to explain away your trenchcoat and sunglasses.
>>62060625Wish I could find a shittier copy, for the 2000's internet qualia.
comfiest thread on /k/have bump while I look for my analog mil radios to dust off and post
>>62063730Would you rather be mistaken for a sex offender or a friggin NERD?
Real spies are dowdy unassuming college professor types. They are usually middle managers, students or contractors who have access to sensitive data through their work. They communicate via mundane ways, not these James Bond contraptions. Real spies don't go on assassination or sabotage missions. They're too valuable for that. Your mom could be spy for all you know.
>>62069976The one general caught cheating a few years ago was using a gmail account as a dead drop. They wouldn't send the emails but shared a password and shared messages by saving drafts
>>62069976>They communicate via mundane ways, not these James Bond contraptionswell clearly, these "james bond contraptions" show that they did use them for their work. It's just that today the method of coms are very different.>Real spies don't go on assassination or sabotage missions.We already know that dingus, that's the role for undercover agents, spies only gather intel or run networks to make missions possible for the agents
>>62069976Glittering generalities are uninteresting. And "spy" is basically just an anacronism in the current era, since it doesn't usefully describe any type of person who exists.Hardly anyone who does espionage/covert related work ever uses the word in a vocational sense, and when they do, like in Spy Museum talks, it comes across weird and strangely infantile.
>>62069976There are still some mysterious niches where shooty-pew-pew operators either work side-by-side with the nerds or have to be trained to do some sysadmin type of stuff on their behalf. NSA's TAO shit comes to mind. At times, they need to physically add implants to infrastructure the US government has no excuse being around in the first place.
>>62057235Thanks for this info. Finally got round to looking up some of your fun words. It's nice to have insight into the service history of the device like that, too. So are amateurs able to broadcast interesting signals that you can intercept?https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/universal-m-7000-and-m-8000-still-useful.471190/
gonna post men with backpacks
>>62078250all the cool DF appreciators use mystery ranch btw
>>62078256taking this w me to the next fox hunt meetup with the boys
>>62078263only tradeoff on these guys is the limited rf range imo... just voice traffic over like, hf and vhf maybe
>>62078274i hate waterfall charts though, close to useless unless you are trying to id freq hoppers, and come on who does that at an amateur radio event anyway
>>62078278now this guy on the other hand (from a publicly available source btw), look at that mast, the rax head is a little tilted though so points down. would otherwise trust this hero to DF
>>62078286rah devil geo those baddies, and fix that nod clamp you're never gonna rate radio recon like that
>>62078306i give points down on this setup, needs to bring that pack higher and closer to the body
>>62078318fun fact: the popularly known "yagi" antenna is actually the yagi-uda antenna -- yagi was the nip phd advisor who oversaw uda, the guy who actually discovered the antenna. directional is much more fun than omnidirectional for DF imo, you get a lot more room to work and multipath is muchhhh better
>>62078336"hey sot why aint the box working" visualized
>>62078368and finally, what it all comes down to. stay in school and love your parents folks (unless theyre not down with the amateur radio direction finding community)
also can anyone explain correlative interferometry? how is this different from TDOA (in this case the 5 difference rx antennas in the circle are just like, individually measuring the time difference of when the transmission gets received to calculate the azimuth?)
>>62078404Basically, each of the antennas gets the signal with a difference in phase you can make a table of the known phase differences at each angle around that array. Using that table of known phase differences when you get a signal from an unknown direction you can compare the phase differences you measure to the table of known phase differences and the one that most closely matches what you measured is the direction of the signal. TDOA doesn't care about phase and instead uses the time taken to reach each antenna.
>>62078250>gonna postbased>kraken everywhereLet's see how long our plan lasts - to fly a couple of these on drones for an upcoming conference's hands-on workshop - before somebody hits us on the head with an oversize looney tunes banhammer>>62078336With a loop, you can go wherever you want
>>62078250Is the krakens passive radar stuff still banned because of ITAR?
>>62078263>someone found a use for the great blob of pouch that is the thermos pouchgood for him I guess
>>62083221The thermos is day laborer cope.
>>62077975Licenced amateurs usually stick to the few common modes so not really, but there is nothing stopping them from using the largely obsolete modes the Infotech units are capable of. Although last year a couple of young amateur radio ops in my area experimented with 1200 baud ASCII RTTY for a few late nights on 440 MHz. That was the first time in a long time I used my M-6000 for anything but NAVTEX and WEFAX reception.
>>62078256Is that a steam deck ? Nice
>>62086590>luggage for defcon
>>62079286This is also basically how your ears work whe determining where a sound is coming from
>>62088111Checked. The human auditory system is incredibly full of fuck thobeit. Even sound localization can become a bottomless pit of research if you want it to.
>>62078377>stay in school and love your parents folksi tried
>>62078404posting more direction finding photos. here's a British Army light electronic warfare team (LEWT). fun fact: most militaries worldwide don't make a distinction—from an order of battle / TO&E perspective—between signals intelligence (direction finding) and electronic warfare. The US military does, though. >>62079286thank you anon
>>62091436heres another photo of our partners across the bond, looks like afghanistan. guy on the left looks like an indig terp judging by the long hair and shemagh. guy on the right is maybe the sensor operator. solid setup too--the antenna is vertically polarized, so keeping it up straight like that is important (to avoid RF shadow and collection issues). comfy sand and a hard wall to rest against... a nice hooch
>>62091460hmmm at first glance the packs should be higher up on the body but the rucksacks the brits use--vertus (virtus?) bergens--naturally sit lower. things look kind of hairy here though. easy to criticize DF setups when nobody is taking potshots at you; roosevelt's man in the arena etc.
>>62091502heres some ANA cats getting trained on a df system. the guy on the left looks hazara. i wonder what happened to him. i wonder who has those systems now.
>>62091509direction finding: putting warheads on foreheads since the 1960s (actually earlier)
>>62091534>typewritersThose are mills and that tells me those are ASA (Army Security Agency) morse intercept operators. I'm guessing early/mid-1960's. They're using R-392 radios. Those are burn bags at each station. Looks a bit primative for Japan, is that in Vietnam?
>>62091509Probably collecting dust in storage, or sold at deep discount to a central asian merchant. Taliban have little need for sigint or hope of training up coherent units on anything but chinese kit, which they know they can get in bulk when needs be.
