So the first thread timed out but since I'm bored I'll try doing this again.I've been collecting guns in use by the criminal insurgents in Brazil over the last 10 or so years. Many of these guns I can't really recognize because they all blend together.I'll post a picture and you all post what guns you think they are and also whats the attachments they got. I'll also post other interestings cheesy guns found in criminal hands.First we get this strange pistol with a gold slide taken from a killed drug dealer in São Gonçalo in the state of Rio de Janeiro years ago. It looks strange, like a Springfield XD copy.
This is an AR taken from the pendrive found on a dead drug dealer in 2015. Not sure if this is an AR made from different parts or built as a complete gun. It's got a longer gas system I think? What's the reflex sight on it?
These gats were captured by the CORE unit of the Civil Police in the Alliance Village favela under control of the Third Pure Command in Rio de Janeiro city in February 2021 in a firefight with 4 dead suspects.The rifle is weird, its like a AR-10 with a triangular M16 handguard. I couldn't say what pistols it is because the thumbnail was too small.
>>62066336Hopefully can't tell what the red dot is, looks to be around the same vintage as stuff like the C-More, ACOG reflex, etc. Also that's a magpul PRS stock and P-mag.>>62066504Yeah that's a weird one. Maybe the angle is just fucked up? I don't know of any fixed carry handle AR-10s like that. Also the leftmost pistol is a 1911 of some kind and the right one is a Gen 5 Glock, probably a 19.
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>>62066526The way gun smuggling works is that there's a lot of change of parts to transport them plus in Rio de Janeiro there's been a real criminal insurgency going since the early 1980s so guns get hidden all over the place, dumped into some hole and then taken out to use months later, literally buried to hide them etc so there's quite a lot of unusual combinations of parts.This stuff was apprehended in Vulture Hill in a firefight with the Military Police that ended in 4 suspects dead and a wounded policeman. These small ARs keep showing up a lot since the early 2010s and the AR-15 design patented expired. Not sure what the pistols are since the thumbnail was too small.
>>62066557Yeah the shorty "ARPs" are popular in the states too among criminals, although usually without stocks. The lack of sights is the same in both groups it looks like lol.Also, I don't think anyone ever made an upper lile that so >>62066504 is probably just a surplus M16A1 that stolen at some point.
>>62066622The rifle in that picture has a fixed M16A2 like rear sight and the brass deflector but it seems like it may not have the forward assist, like some AR-10s. The Mag well is also rather large and there's a 20 round 7.62 NATO magazine below it. Looks like a M14-like magazine similar to those old Armalite rifles.This 5.56 rifle was captured from a private militia in 2022. I'm not sure what they did to this Mini-14.
How did you get your hands on so many of these? Do the police release them to the public (say via an auction) after a certain period of time, or do you just find them out and about?
>>62066656You're definitely right. I did some looking and Armalite used to sell AR-10s with fixed A2 carry handles. And I have no idea what stock is on that Mini-14. I've looked at stuff for it, the M1 carbine, and M14 but nothing close shows up. Maybe it's a local production thing? Not sure how popular legal Mini-14s are there.
>>62066692Hands on what, the pictures? None of these guns are mine lol, these are pictures from social media and the internet in general. And no, the police can't hand them out at all, the barely get to use them themselves because they have to jump through hoops from the Judiciary and the BR Army to even use any of the captured weapons. And thats for the captured guns that are useable which isn't many.This was captured in a firefight with criminals in Teixeiras that left 2 dead. Anyone know what red dot it is? Looks like a copy of a old Aimpoint maybe? The grenade I think are BR army surplus grenades that a are a copy of a West German Cold War grenade but I'm not sure.>>620667145.56 guns were never legal except for a short time during the Bolsonaro government due to Brazilian caliber laws. Because of this the Mini-14 was never sold. Its popular with both police and criminals though.
>>62066722That red dot looks like a super cheap TruGlo one that they sell at walmart and everywhere on amazon.Damn that sucks about 5.56 not being legal there. I do remember hearing about Bolsonaro and the gun laws but not about them being reversed. If I lived in Brazil it would take an act of God to get me out of the house without a gun kek.
>>62066722Its interesting how sub-compact ARs in Brazil tend to be used with actual stocks. Its rare to see them without them, and often in full auto.>>62066750Finding out about TruGlo some months ago explained a lot of the optics I see in these guns.However a lot of these optics seem to be ones offered in places like AliExpress and such. I guess that makes them pirated sights.And yeah 5.56 was legal during his presidency for the first time in history.These are rifles from the Pure Third Command in São Carlos some shithole in Rio de Janeiro city. The Pure Third Command loves G3s because of the 3 in the name. The Pure Third Command, due to the name and the 3 initials, uses and adores the number 3 as identification. The Red Command uses 2 because of the two word name as a counter to this.In the territory of the Pure Third Command, you can't say the number 2 or count using 2 and the same with the Red Command and the number 3, all under penalty of violence. You can't write those numbers anywhere and if you have to count you have to count as 1+1 or 2+1 or some other way to circunvent the numbers.
>>62066792I like the black and golden RealTree camo paintjob on that AR.This is a AK from Rio de Janeiro from the mid 2010s. Not sure if its 5.56 or 5.45, 5.45 is real rare in Latin America. Not sure either who makes a Draco like this, seems like a custom job.
>>62066792Are these camos applied locally or is there some Cerakote shop right on the mexican border doing this stuff?Cheap optics are really popular among criminals, assumedly because they're both poor and too dumb to research proper options. >>62066838 That honestly looks like a 9mm or a .22lr with a really fucked up mag made to look like a 5.45 AK mag.
>>62066952Now that I think about it, it being a submachine gun makes sense. Submachine guns were always popular of course but with the decreasing production of submachine guns in the 2010s the criminal insurgents in Brazil and especially Rio de Janeiro started using 9mm AKs. They're somewhat popular.And the paintjobs are applied locally by both arms traffickers, individual criminals and the criminals responsible for maintaining and storing the guns which is a group job done by the larger criminal organizations that can afford in money and manpower to have dedicated cells for the guns and explosives and also by the arms traffickers themselves who usually work in Paraguai or Argentina which is where most of the guns come from.These arms traffickers also can pass through the border and work temporarily in Brazil of course. There's also the trafficking coming in from Bolivia in the same routes the coke comes from, plus Peru, Colombia and Venezuela.The paintjobs, especially the more ornate ones, are paid-for like full auto conversions and such.These are from a social media page from the Red Command in the mid 2010s. Not sure what handgun is that on the upper right.
>>62066952Speaking of paintjobs, this one is a very relevant pistol to your post.This is a apprehended glock pistol from a large shipment of illegal guns and ammo that was snatched by the Federal Highway Police near Seropedica in Rio de Janeiro state in the 2010s. It had a beige or brown lower part and the slide and the slide was gold plated.It had an inscription of "RB from the clinic New Holland" on it. Not only was the gun going to New Holland, a favela in the Maré Complex of Favelas in the city of Rio de Janeiro, but RB stands for "Rabugente" (in English, Grumpy) the name of the then at the time leader of the New Holland favela and its criminal operations. He was at the time in prison and was going to be released early due to Brazil's penal procedures since the 1988 Democratization being based around a peculiar system based on humanitarianism and "rehabilitation" called "Penal Progression" which means that when you're convicted you, like all other convicts no matter the crime, are liable to eventually be transferred from the "closed regime" which is prison (in the last 40 years only a minority of convicts stay in this specific regime) to the "semi-open regime" (things like house arrest and only being in prison for the weekend or being loose on the weekend and in prison during weekdays and similar things) to eventually "open regime" (for example, you have to check in to a half-way house in certain dates, its open because you're not in prison or jail). All convicts no matter the crime are eligible for this as its considered their right. This pistol was ordered from the United States to be given to Grumpy as a gift in celebration of his return from prison ("closed regime", which meant he was technically and in statistics a prisoner) and return to being in command of the favela. "Clinic" is a somewhat classic Rio de Janeiro slang term for drug houses. "Pharmacy" is also used.
>>62067195Arms traffickers with Brazilian customers are usually Brazilians themselves or have some connection with South America. Because of this, a lot of the trafficking comes from Florida.A bunch of cokeheads from the Red Command in the Chapadão Favela Complex in Rio de Janeiro city show off their rifles. Don't know anything more specific other than these are FN FALs, AKs and AR-15 type rifles. One of those has one of those copies of I think SureShot or Bushnell red dot sights which are popular in Narco-guerrilla hands in Brazil.
>>62066247Is that a homemade slide?
>>62067328I don't know. But if its homemade its made outside Brazil.More rather generic ARs and a Madsen that I don't know the specific model of from Rio de Janeiro.
Now we're onto some heavy gear. These are guns from the 33 Troop, lead by the Colonel from the Pure Third Command. They lord over the Muquiço favela in Rio de Janeiro city. The Pure Third Command identifies and uses the number 3 like the Red Command uses the number 2.Not sure what ARs these are, they look like some commercial market HK416s or copies of them. But the M203s are whats interesting. Not sure if they're real launchers or if they're 37mm ones meant for the commercial market that can't shoot lethal grenades. They also may be some type of improvised homemade copy similar to what Mexican drug cartels make.
>>62067530Not sure what grip is that on the one on the left, a copy of a Hogue grip? I think the drum is Magpul. Don't know what red dot sights those are.Some battle rifles and a pistol I can't recognize in the thumbnail in the String Favela, owned by the Red Command, in Governors' Island in the northeast part of Rio de Janeiro city along with two heroes of the Red Command: Messi and Osama Bin Laden. Brazilian criminals in general like evil tough guy terrorists and strongmen figures that have a strong reputation of villainy in the West, like Bin Laden, Saddam, Yasser Arafat, Gaddafi, Castro, Che Guevara, Mao Zedong etcThe Red Command in particular likes them, in large part due to the Red Command's third world revolutionary socialist ideology and beliefs (the red in the name isn't for the color). Its main leader in the 2000s, Beira-Mar, openly celebrated 9/11 in the prison yard of Bangu 1 prison in 2001 when the terrorist attack happened.He also personally blamed the US for his arrest in the year previously in the jungles of Colombia in a paramilitary base, where he was working on the maintenance of a drug and weapons smuggling ring between the Red Command and one of its main allies and backers to this day, the communist FARC, Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia. The operation was the Red Command smuggling weapons, ammo and explosives from Lebanon through Brazil to Colombia, where the gear would be exchanged for hundreds of kilos of Colombia cocaine.
>>62067704More heavy hitters. This is a M1919 and a RPK of some kind in High City which is a big housing project turned into a favela slum in the north part of Rio de Janeiro, being lead by the Pure Third Command.This RPK is interesting as it has this cone flash hider which I can't recognize. Not sure if its something added on for the American market or what. I don't know about AKs as much as I should.
>>62066247Fascinating thread so far, anon. I am enjoying learning about brazilian power struggles
>>62067952And to think we haven't even got to outside Rio de Janeiro yet. Though Rio de Janeiro gets all the most interesting and exotic guns due to high demand.>>62067934This is another RPK with a cone flash hider like in the original post apprehended by the police. The first AK type weapons in Brazil appeared in Rio de Janeiro in the late 1980s, smuggled into Brazil by the Red Command from Angola, which was haveing a brutal civil war at the time. The Red Command to this day has some connections to Angola due to the drug routes from the East part of Brazil needing to go through Africa though the São Paulo-city based First Capital Command, former allies, have been overtaking these routes with significant involvement with the Mozambique government and the government of Guinea-Bisseau.This one was captured in a firefight with 3 dead suspects in Japeri, in the Rio de Janeiro metropolitan area.
>>62067195I've heard of that kind of customization happening in places like Mexico and the middle east. Very interesting stuff>>62067530Definitely a magpul drum and those look like 40mm launchers. Seems like generic M4 clones to me. Definitely amazon special red dots.
>>62068529Interesting that those may have been actual 40mm. Any idea on the mounts? Seems like original 1990s M203 M4 barrel profile mounts on the launchers but the one on the left is mounted on the rail.Mexican Mendoza ATK pistols captured being shipped to the Maré favela complex. Mexican cartels, especially the Sinaloa cartel, has been stepping up into South America since the partial disarmament and demobilization of the FARC in Colombia in the mid 2010s, to take their share of the market of drugs and weapons, including by going after the demobilized weapons and other leftovers.
How big is the Taurus G3C in Brazil and how is it regarded by the public/gun enthusiasts there? I like mine and now I'm curious.
>>62068675People like it but they don't think its great or anything. It does the job and has better reputation than the original Taurus striker fired guns. Even then people are still awary of Taurus.Here's some guns I can't recognize on the thumbnail except for the generic sub compact AR being posed with some barbecue done by the Friends of Friends criminal organization in Macaé, a city rather far away from the city of Rio de Janeiro in the same state. The Friends of Friends used to be the second biggest organization in the state, only after the Red Command but constant attrition from both the Red Command, the Pure Third Command, the police, private militias and even the military took its toll and now they're relegated to Macaé and their original birth territories in Rio de Janeiro.
>>62068714>Even then people are still awary of Taurus.Really? I'm happy with my G3C and from everything I've heard it's good to go. Taurus seems to have come a long way and I'd have thought people in Brazil would have a better regard for them.What is THE handgun of choice in Brazil loved by citizens and criminals alike?
>>62068747Taurus sells its best gats in the US. The lesser quality stuff is sold in Brazil, similar to Brazilian agriculture. Taurus' reputation has gotten better though.Everybody likes PT92s and .38 revolvers and Glocks. .38 revolvers in general are, and have been for the last 100+ years the most common weapon in Brazil. In criminal hands they're the equivalent of the saturday night specials of the past like Lorcin and such.Glocks are loved and in some ways even treated as somewhat of a status symbol by both criminals and private gun owners alike and they're popular with the police since protectionist regulations by the BR Army (the ones charged with gun control in Brazil including controlling the guns for the police) that meant you could not buy or offer for sale foreign weapons that had a Brazilian-made equivalent were loosed by the Bolsonaro government.Here's a M1919 covering a stairway in a favela in Rio de Janeiro. Not sure about the caliber, the links seem like ones used for 7.62 NATO?
Here's a Turkshit SAR-223C rifle with a solid stock with a real fancy wood-like paintjob and a big hunting scope I don't know the manufacturer of from Rio de Janeiro in 2023.
>>62068825I didn't know Brazilians were such huge Glockfags. I didn't trust Taurus either but their new stuff is impressive and even though I have no connection to Brazil I am rooting for them. I like seeing companies unshit themselves.
A Red Command "soldier" (in Portuguese "Soldado do Morro" or Hill Soldier or more generic "Traffic Soldier" or Soldado do Trafíco" and his belt rig with a BR army lizard camo jacket.What grenades are these? All I know is that they're BR military surplus and if I remember right based on West German cold war grenades.
Red Command soldiers around the 2014 World Cup. International events like this are always a big deal for crime and violence in Rio de Janeiro since the early 1980s and the founding of the Red Command.One of the criminals has what I think is a Rage Against the Machine shirt. It's not all shitty Brazilian "funk" music, pagode and edgy rap, its edgy rap rock from the 1990s too.
How big was Tropa de Elite over there?
>>62068613The barrel mount definitely looks homemade, rail mount I'm not sure but they're commercially available in the states.I've never seen an AZTK pistol before. Who makes them?
>>62069430>Who makes them?Mendoza
>>62069430>AZTK pistolIt is a .380 pistol for civilians that is sold in Mexico, each one costs about 200 bucks.
>>62069429Very. Very big. It would take an entire thread to talk about it.>>62069167Adding on to this, whats the pistol the crackhead has on the far left close to the camera? A CZ-75 copy?>>62069430Interesting. The AZTK is made by Mendoza which I believe is amongst the oldest gun manufacturers iin Latin America.Here's a old picture with a gun I could never recognize. This was captured in a firefight in the favela on Monkeys' Hill in the city of Rio de Janeiro with the Friends of Friends crime organization in 2014 when they were much more active. I could never find a gun that looks like the rifle in the far right. it's real weird, like a M14 with G3 magazines.
>>62069465No the AZTK is 9mm, the 380 version is called the MXCN or some shit
>>62069492>Very. Very big. It would take an entire thread to talk about it.pls I must know
>>62069492Also what gun is the one on the bottom? Looks like those Swiss guns that are a CZ copy, I forgot the name.>>62069506To keep things simple because I'm having dinner (ham and cheese pizza): The effect on the actual security forces of Brazil and the BR military I can only compare to the effect The Godfather had on Italians in the United States and Scarface had on ghetto negros and Latin American immigrant descendants.I went to high school in 2012. The boys on the class (a minority, there was 30 people and only around 10 maybe less were boys) were STILL constantly quoting it at each other. The movie came out in 2007.Red Command booby trap in the woods aroundMorro do 18 (18's Hill) in the West Zone of Rio de Janeiro. Booby traps like these are common in Rio de Janeiro. Not sure what grenade is this, but looks like BR army surplus from the Cold War.
>>62069596What are the things people quote from the movie? I remember Wagner Moura calling people faggot a lot.
>>62069167everyone but me has a goddamn M1 carbine
>>62069492The pistols look like a BHP, 1911, and a Zighana? The rifle on the right might be a Spanish mauser in 308 that's been modified.>>62069465 As an American, I've never even heard of them. Are they decent?
>>62069700Not him but I suddenly became interested in this weird Mexigun and all I could find on the internet about it is that Mendoza is a sporting gear company that made air rifles and apparently the quality of their air rifles and .22s were mega shit ass garbage but got better in recent years around when they released the AZTK and MXIK.From the images I could find of it it looks like it's NOT tilting barrel so I guess this is actually a fucking blowback handgun in modern times which is wild and the flip-up frame mounted safety is also unique. The one review I could find was from a Mexican called The Solitary Hunter (EL CAZADOR SOLITARIO" who tested it by shooting 400 rounds of PMC FMJ 115 and Aguila flat nose 147 at a pack of printer paper propped against a garden hose and it seemed decently reliable but not accurate whatsoever even at 10 yards unless the guy just really sucks.
I appreciate your threads whenever i see them, favelanon. They're very informative.
>>62069700>>62069786https://youtu.be/QnNEssBD-SI?si=5eEQdavCI35sTyYz
>>62069637Basically every scene. To give you an idea people say "Baiano has social conscience" like in that scene with the pinko stoner students every time something that shows theo obvious but constantly treated as taboo subject or news comes up that shows the obvious political leanings of the Red Command and their former allies the First Capital Command. In fact, the whole subject and theme of the movie was something on the forefront of the minds of Brazilians during the 1990s to the 2010s and even today yet its treated as complete taboo amongst the classes of people that actually compose governments and the judiciary and the Brazilian media and culture.Another common one is the "Mission given is mission accomplished" one that the BOPE XO tells Nascimento but thats cheating because that one came from the actual BR Army and Navy combat forces close to the Special Forces like the Parachute Brigade and BOPE itself.It's a miracle the movie even was made.In highschool the boys really liked the scene with Nascimento telling Neto "take off this uniform. Take off this uniform because you don't deserve it, you're a kid! You're not a skull, you're a kid!" Another one was Baiano telling Nascimento not to shoot him in the face to not ruin the funeral.Honestly I could just go on with this.>>62069903B-but this and the previous thread are the only threads I've made.This is another Red Command booby trap in the bush around 18's Hill in 2021.
>>62070967>B-but this and the previous thread are the only threads I've made.ah, well.. ive seen a couple other "favela researcher" threads before, around the time of the invasion of ukraine was the last i was here frequently.the previous anon was someone who was living in south america and had a fascination with the brazilian gangs and how they came to be, alongside with the favelas they inhabit, and their habits all the way up to the modern day. some bolivian anon, i believe.pic was a mexican cartel seizure; but same sort of wheelhouse.
>>62067952Seconded. Excellent thread to read as someone who travels to Brazil regularly. Thank you anon
>>62071009Oh wow those threads must have been real interesting. Maybe I should look them up on the archive.Your Mexican truck is interesting. I've seen that picture before. Similar set ups have been used in Brazil but not in Rio de Janeiro but in Northeast Brazil and in the Western parts of Brazil for the robberies of armored bank trucks and air planes transporting valuables. Also used for hits on hard targets in Paraguai.This one was from a famous heist on a plane transporting valuables on a airfield in northeast Brazil in 2018. The Feds had this crew under watch. When the plane was landing on the airfield to have the valuableso offloaded onto armored bank cars for transport to the actual banks, the Feds set up a ambush with support of the local police and wiped out the crew.It's usually the First Capital Command pulling these robberies. This truck they were using had a .50 cal bolted to the back. It was a Hilux SUV with a hole on the rear windshield covered with a political propaganda sticker. The MG was for the armored cars and the gang would dismount this truck and another one and open fire and fight their way to the plane and steal everything there.When the plane landed and the gang started the first move, the Feds and the local police opened fire and wasted them in a big firefight. The crime scene pictures are real famous. This crew was real experienced and had robbers from multiple states.
>>62071090Another picture of the .50 cal bolted on the SUV from the failed heist.
>>62071090>>62071197again, very cool and informative. thank you for sharing. looks like they could've used ballistic shielding from more than just one direction to say the least, and that deuce has had a tough life.did they link any of the assailants to previous robberies?here's some homemade chinesium.
>>62071264Yes, they linked the crew to several armored car robberies around the Northeast Brazil region and the midwest.Appreciate the chinesium. Surprised we don't see more Norinco shit in Brazil, its mostly AKs and those Yakuza export version Tokarevs.This is a picture of the SUV from outside. This angle was the angle the M2 was going to shoot from, aimed at the plane and the armored cars that were going to load the valuables from it. The barrel was going to fire through the gap in the glass.
>>62071291>Yakuza export version TokarevsWhat?
>>620715819mm export versions of Type 54 pistols by Norinco are notorious in Japan for being used by the Yakuza. The Type 54 being a Norinco-made improved version of a older direct copy of the Tokarev pistol.
Another Mexican AZTK pistol apprehended in Rio de Janeiro in 2020.
A M1919 mounted on a tripod in High City in the North Zone of Rio de Janeiro, a housing project turned favela owned by the Pure Third Command.Technicals in Rio de Janeiro are something that has long been rumored to be in circulatiion since the Y2K era. However they were thought to be a urban legend as nobody would ever see them, except bystanders, criminals and policemen who would tell stories of seeing them. In the 2010s with social media the first images of simple, basic technicals in use in Rio de Janeiro appeared, like this one. They're still not very common.
>>62069112>>62069596>>62070967So I think I found what grenades I keep seeing in the hands of these crackheads.They're Belgian hand grenades, or more likely surplus licensed made versions of these hand grenades made by Imbel or CBC in Brazil forthe BR military.The ones that look like a big cam are Nr-8 grenades.https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/nr-8-hand-grenadeThe round ones seem to be M72 hand grenades or a older version.https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/m72-hand-grenadeThis is some gear from the String Favela at Governor's Island in Rio de Janeiro city. I'm not very sure of what grenades these are or what handguard or scope this FN FAL has. Seems to be stuff bought from AliExpress.
An FN FAL with what I believe is a Chinese handguard with a rifle grenade mounted on it. Not sure what model, sometimes training models are used to intimidate people but real ones are common since the 1990s. Rifle grenades are the most common heavy explosive in use by the Rio de Janeiro paramilitary narco-guerrilla organizations.This was in the Red Command-led favela of New Holland in the Maré (Current, as in sea current) Favela Complex. A very important region for the crime business as its a large favela complex with a large coast with access to the sea close to the port of Rio de Janeiro. The exchange of contraband from outside Brazil and from inside Brazil to outiside takes place here. Lots of drugs and guns on boats.
A older picture from social media from the mid 2010s supposedly from Rio de Janeiro, with a AR-15 with a C-More red dot sight (likely copy from China) and a 40mm M203 grenade launcher.
>>62071291>>62071197>>62071090Some of the weapons used in this failed heist. Other than the MD2 its nothing unusual in the hands of criminals since paramilitary drug cartels started operating in Brazil in the early 1980s.
An INA .45 caliber machine gun, an variant of the Madsen M50 in .45 and a curious Taurus variant of the Beretta PM12 with a curious stock adaptation apprehended in Rio de Janeiro state with a .38 revolver.
Surprised my thread is still alive.Have a Type 65 rifle with a big drum magazine from a unknown brand and a hunting scope. I presume a lot of these Type 65s come from Paraguai though I'd imagine they could come from West Africa as well.
>>62082226It's a beta mag. Not very reliable but looks scary.
>>62066336Red dot is a Russian Kobra EKP-8-18, RIS compatible variant of a sight designed for side-rail mounting on AKs.
>>62067318AK pattern rifle in this picture appears to be an AMD-65 minus the stock, vertical foregrip, and AKM slant brake.
>>62082282Are you sure? It seems more like some copy of the longer version of the old Trijicon reflex sight. The only Russian optics I have managed to identify are these DIANA hunting scopes. I have no clue how these end up in Brazil, they don't even sell them in gun stores.This is a UTAS 556 rifle, I think from Turkey under use by the Pure Third Command (Terceiro Comando Puro, TCP) in 2022. It has a DIANA scope.>>62082247I thought Beta mags only came with the back covered?
>>62082615The ones I see usually have the clear backs. Obviously makes them cooler, which means they work better kek.
A pair of AKs, one a Romanian draco-like carbine, with funny paintjobs in the Rocinha favela.
>>62083597I think the furniture on the Draco is homemade. The wrist on the stock is really thick and the foregrip is way more vertical than a real Romanian one
>>62083957I've seen those foregrips on the draco in the US but the stock seems odd, seems to maybe be a issue with the mount.Speaking of homemade grips, this one is a BAR from the Bullet Train gang from the Red Command in Rio de Janeiro with a homemade foregrip. I've also seen BARs with the stock sawed off and also with it sawed off and replaced with some type of molded or formed wooden pistol grip.
>>62084000A lineup of rifles from narco-guerrillas in Rio de Janeiro in the 2010s. A BAR with a sawed off barrel can be seen and also a Type65 rifle and a CETME rifle.
An extra-edgelord AR-10 from the Bullet Train gang of the Red Command in 2021. Some of these setups with a scope and bipod or grippod are meant for designated-marksman use or to be set up in a fixed position to cover an area.
>>62066247Have you seen the movie City of God? One of my favorites, lots of guns
>>62084849Yes. Its very, very exagerated, the book its based on is much more closer to life. The movie was that way to make social commentary on how Rio de Janeiro became in the 1980s and 1990s. The guns and violence is much closer to that time period than anything from the 1970s.Rio de Janeiro in the 1970s had a murder rate comparable to that of New York City around the same time period. Just in the decade afterwards, it was more than double that of New York.In the 1970s it was rare for criminals anywhere in the whole region to have a gun larger than a shotgun or a handgun that wasn't a revolver. In the start of the decade, criminals that didn't work with stick up robberies still attacked each other with pipes, sticks and knives. Zé Pequeno walking around with a micro uzil was ridiculous for the 1970s but would make perfect sense for the 1980s.Also, City of God is a bit notable for being the first major movie in Brazil after the 1970s to portray criminals as pieces of shit who are bad to people. 1968 counter-culture and New Left meant Brazilian filmmakers, who are almost entirely based around Rio de Janeiro, started glorifying and portraying criminals as victimized anti-heroes.This here picture, was the first time a criminal in the whole region of Brazil Rio de Janeiro is in was photographed with a full automatic rifle. This is Naldo from Rocinha (or in Portuguese, Naldo da Rocinha, its a title) with a HK33 as photographed by a police stakeout in 1988. Possibly the first time a criminal in Brazil was photographed with one in general. The Red Command introduced semi auto and full auto military cartridge rifles to crime in Brazil as a matter of policy, to contest territory with all security forces. They had been already using rifles like this for around 4 years or so by then, but this was the first time it was pictured, before it was thought of as a urban legend.
Amigo não precisa traduzir nomes próprios.
>>62085428Which names did I translate?A series of rifles from the 2010s in Rio de Janeiro. The shorty AR carbine at the bottom with the rounded handguard has been common since the late 2000s, I believe many were made by Olympic Arms and Rock River Arms. Above it you see a carbine with a likely Chinese made C-More red dot sight.But what's interesting is the FN FAL with a ABL OIP scope. These are rare outside of Europe since it was a Belgian Army scope used since the FN 49. The only ones who usually have these in Latin America are the Argentinians, who made these along with their own FN FALs.
Another FN FAL with a rifle grenade. Again, not sure what grenade this is, an Energa?
>>62067059That pistol looks like a Ruger P-95 or P-97. >>62068714The center pistol is a BERSA Thunder-09, that trigger guard and grip hump is super distinctive.>>62069492>whats the pistol the crackhead has on the far left close to the camera? A CZ-75 copy?Other way around, I think - that looks like an old Hi-Power, the gun the Czechs ripped off for the -75. >weird-ass rifleLooks kind of like a California-compliant stock and then someone riveted a chopped mag onto the rifle to make it a fixed-mag because they didn't have the right parts. The barrel profile is really weird, and there's no evidence of a self-loading mechanism, so I can't help but wonder if it's some kind of charger loading surplus bolt-action rifle.
>>62086261That rifle is real weird.Have a Ruger pistol with the iconic chinese glock switch.
>>62076962Where do they obtain rifle grenades?
>>62086261I feel the pistol in >>62067059 is a Ruger American or Ruger SR-9. It seems to have no exposed hammer.>>62089257This one too.>>62089553Paraguai, Bolivia, Argentina, Colombia, Peru and from Brazilian military stocks stolen or diverted or bought off. Sometimes stuff is smuggled in from West Africa. That's how the first AKs showed up in the late 1980s.
>>62089718That's entirely likely, I realized that the 95 and 99 don't usually have front rails but it definitely looks like a Ruger.>>62089257The more I look at it, the mode I'm convinced it's a bush gunsmith special built off of an SMLE. The original magazine angle and size (the one that cut-down G3 box is riveted into) is correct, the barrel seems to have been cut back about six inches with a new front blade mounted, and both the rear sight block and the bolt handle you can see sticking up over the action look Enfieldy. The stock is obviously a tropical hardwood and while it's well-finished it's pretty poorly shaped, which makes me think it's locally-sourced. It also looks left-handed based on the finger grooves and the relief at the top of the pistol grip. That big exposed rod on the back might be an AR carbine buffer/stock welded onto the receiver and bridged with that bigass piece of brass on the bottom of the grip.Could be like one of those Aftican poaching guns, where they take a BP/bolt-action rifle or shotgun, cut it down, and nail an AK grip and a block of wood onto it that looks like a mag to make the whole thing look more dangerous from a distance. Except this was made by a reasonably competent gunsmith. Especially since the silhouette looks a shitload like an M1 Carbine, which I know were popular in the 70s and 80s down there
>>62090300Thats actually very enlightning. Could it have been built off a Mauser rifle instead? Those are much more common in Latin America than Enfields and .303 ammo is even less common.This is a Mauser-type rifle apprehended in Kennedy Village in 2020. Kennedy Village is a large 1960s-era housing project that took o favela characteristics thanks to the drug trade and the Red Command taking it over and kicking out all public authorities from it in the 1980s. Same thing happened with the "City of God" in the same decade.Not sure what Mauser this is but I'd imagine its a Brazilian mauser.
>>62090731It could be built off an American 1913 as well - the US got a whole bunch of 30-06 Enfields in WWI and then surplused most of them in the Interwar period. It's not uncommon to find one rechambered in .308/7.62 x 51 in the US. But someone could have welded a "rollercoaster" rear sight onto something. I'll go through some reference photos later and see if I can find something that matches better
>>62090300The rifle is a Mauser and looks nothing like an Enfield.
>>62090870I think it may have been built off the Brazilian reserve rifle Mosquefal, would fit the magazine and the rear sight and they were built by reforming 30-06 Mauser rifles.
Shifting a little from just guns to pictures of the guns and their users. This one is a drug dealer, a "Hill Soldier" or just soldier, the basic rank and one of the most common roles of the structure of the paramilitary drug cartels that fight over Brazil in the last 40 years. In the 1980s and early 1990s, before the spread of these organizations to outside Rio de Janeiro city, they were the only ones allowed to carry rifles.This one has a FN FAL with a rifle grenade and a loadout for guarding high priority spots on the territory or for an assault on a hard target. As part of the urban guerrilla war strategy the Red Command brought to Rio de Janeiro, camo uniforms became sought after along with the rifles and explosives.
I like to pretend my 7.62x25 has a favella twin out there somewhere...
>>62092106What the actual hell is that anon
>>62092582I had a little extra time and an ar trigger group
