Post reloads, data, questions.baking bread so I can ask my own question: trying to figure out what powder I can buy that I can use for the most calibers I intend on reloading in the future - thinking about 357, 44 mag, 50 ae... I see H110 is used in loadings for all three in the Lee 2nd edition manual. However, for some of the bullets for 357 magnum such as 148 grain wadcutters, the powder is not listed. does that mean it's probably unsafe to use, or that the manufacturer hasn't developed a loading for it and that's the fun part where I get to make my own?
>>62129241Yes, you get to make your own. It would be impossible for a manufacturer to list every load that could be used for a certain cartridge/bullet combination. You can get away with using the load data of a heavier bullet.
>>62129241Also OP, in case you didn't know, Win 296 and H110 are the exact same thing, might help in finding load data.
Wadcutters are generally cast of soft lead and deep seated.High velocity powders like H110/296 will deposit lots of lead in the barrel and lead to poor accuracy.
>>62129320>high velocity powdersno such thing
>>62129326Relative to a given cartridge you stupid fucker. Specifically here meaning that a powder which produces velocities higher than a particular bullet will take.In 357 Magnum, is H110 a powder that produces high velocities or low velocities relative to the spectrum of other appropriate powders?Think on it.
>>62129488It can be loaded to whatever velocity one desires.
>>62129532It really can't because under a certain casefill you'll see some funny haha extreme spread, at which point you don't control that.
>>62129540We've been using tissue paper, wool, or other light flammable material to pack in empty space in cases for a few centuries now anon. Give it a try, with something like titegroup you can make some super nice mouse fart loads for basically no powder cost.
>>62129569There is no world in which you can place 7gr of H110 in a 357 case and get anything other than a squib.Filler will not make a miniscule amount of slow powder generate the pressure needed to burn correctly.I do want you to give it a try, run them across your chronograph if they even exit the barrel.
>>62129591Maybe in a revolver, I've had luck with that small of a load and a light bullet in a sealed gun. I know for sure it works in 44 Russian wadcutters.A tight powder charge combined with a tight bullet goes a long way. Hell we even have 22LR that makes it out of a 20" barrel with no powder at all, only primer.
>>62129591>>62129695For example. You can get a lot more out of powder than you thought.
>>62129241Anyone loading .410 Ishapore "musket" ammo? Looking to load it in the future as my rifle just came in. Guess I could get it bored for .410 shotshells but where's the fun in that? Easy to convert .303 to .410 by fireforming them with some filler from what I can tell. Pic for reference. Also OP damn did you really gotta go and blow your load before taking that pic? Hope you have some patches for your ceiling.
Loaded with a single round ball in this case.
One last pic. Would be neat to know about the loads using shot as they seem less common to find info on, though I guess it's probably similar to low power .410.
>>62129717>uses what would become Accurate No2>a powder that needs no fillerBravo anon, good job buddy.
Basically anon's problem is that he doesn't understand what "progressive burn rate" means. A fast burning smokeless powder(relative to a given cartridge) doesn't need filler to be reliable and consistent, but a small charge of a slow powder won't generate enough pressure to burn regardless.Don't work too far under starting charges in manuals, just pick a faster burning powder.
I used some H335 powder for some arisaka cartridges and I had a couple rounds fail to fire but some of the powder was yellow, like a partial burn, wtf happened?
>>62130400>I used "some"Where did you get your data from?How much did you use?
>>62130370I know similar things can be done with any powder. Powder burn rates aren't actually that much different than one another. But sure, if you want to keep paying robbery prices for trail boss because fillers scare you, you're welcome to do it
>>621292418.5gr Accurate #2300gr XTP (.430)Federal LPP1.57"will cycle a desert eagle, and be subsonic.
>>62130339You could use .410 Slug data and I'm sure those would be extremely safe given they're only about 10k psi whereas the Enfield action is good to four times that.
>>62130334I've been wanting to try loading lead ball ammo like that in .45acp but have never messed w/anything like that before. I'd like to try making some "gallery" loads. Anyone else try those?
>>62131090>similar thinks with any powderPlease try it.Use a few grains of Hodgdon 869 in a 357 mag, bonus points if you do it repeatedly in a lever action. Stuff as much cotton, flour, or dacron filler as you like.You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>62130464Lee, for the 6.5 Arisaka I used a 139 gr FMJ, paired with 33 grains or a 1.9 dipperFor 7.7, I used a 150 gr FMJ, paired with 41 grains or 2.5 dipper. I also made loads with 4895 and 2700 with no issues.
Finally saw some cheap Shooter's World powder at my local Scheels. I'm running a pseudo mk262 for a pistol ar. It's $7 cheaper than H335 and about 100fps faster (according to them) with a 20" barrel max load. Made a quick ladder to chronograph. Hopefully my 11.5" will like these. I like cheap bullets. I'm currently at around 28-36cpr? If I remember right.
Do you think we'll see manufacturers moving away from LP 45ACP, and completely into SP 45ACP? Some ammo manufacturers like CCI/Federal only sell rounds made with SP 45ACP, and I'd hope that brass manufacturers for reloaders (Hornady, Starline, SIG) will soon follow them. The SP 45ACP I've collected at the range has been a real saver. Considering that Large Pistol Primers are difficult to find and their price is around $110-125 for a brick, and Small Pistol/Rifle Primers are available for $40-50 for foreign cheapies or $60-70 for a brick of domestic primers, these have saved me money on my reloads. I don't know how difficult it would be for brass makers to change over the size of the primer pocket, but it was obviously a good investment for CCI/Federal, and I think it could attract more people to buy fresh 45ACP brass from the first one to do it.
>>62133685Measure by weight, not volume.
>>62132550I have plenty of experience fucking around with just that sort of thing. I was able to get to 5 grains of H110 in a 44 Russian when I was in my "quietest load possible" phase. I also cut down some 45 colt brass to do it with round balls and had good success, pic related. They fire great and no worrying about tumbling if you have a can. I wouldn't expect you to understand if you haven't done it yourself, so no worries anon. Give it a try, you might be surprised.
>>62138750nothing wrong with volumetric measuring, it's how it's done at the ammo factory btw.
>>62139901You have zero chronograph data which tells me you haven't done anything of the sort.All that trouble just to make a gallery lod that Bullseye does without any of the trouble.
>>62139939I made a thread on this a while backhttps://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61197394/I don't care if you believe a random internet stranger or if you don't. Just telling you to give it a try and you'll be surprised. Happy loading anon.
