https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-carrier-hms-queen-elizabeth-back-at-sea/
>>62135544was there ever actually any doubt?I know the thirdies were gloating but that's low hanging fruit at best, they gloat at their own soldiers being killed because it forced the enemy to expend ammunition
In Dutch the word ramp means disaster.
bloodeyh fooken fantastik innit>>62135575dehm fuckckin firdieez dhont knoe abouwt the power ohf the bri'ish nayvee !!>>62135584whe did brekxit ya fuochkin spaz now SOD OFHFF!
>>62135544Implessive
>>62135602>bri'ish nayveeThis poster is not English
>>62135615:( im an aussie shitposter but i have a british ancestry im trying anon I REALLY AM
>>62135544If they'd spent all that money on catapults, they coould have a pretty neat real carrier.
>>62135623then you should have said Royal navy dumbarse
>>62135636>real proper carrier vs several meme carriersthey probably picked the right course, anon.
>>62135636They're getting STOVL aircraft it didn't need catapultIn fact with F/A-18E/F being discontinued and V-22 being slated to replace both C-2 and E-2 I'd say the navy is going to consider aircraft carrier with ramp to save cost
>>62135701They could have had two conventional carriers.Delete the ramp, use two catapults and put on an angled landing deck.
>>62135742If only there was a carrier version of that aircraft.
>>62135751>could havei doubt it, considering they have 2 with ramps
>>62135771They should have buillt them without ramps, as real carriers.
>>62135757How long it gonna take until the next budget cuts come out and the navy decided that consolidating their go to fighter into F-35B made much more sense than to focus on operating 2 essentially different aircraft just to maintain the rapidly aging nimitz ACs? F-35C offer nothing significant to the table other than justifying the reason keeping nimitz class operational
>>62135544>>62135602Yo wot mate yo cheeky cunt?I swear on me mum I'll bash yer ead in you fockin mug.>>62135798>F-35C offer nothing significant to the table other than justifying the reason keeping nimitz class operational>justifying the reason keeping nimitz class operational>keeping nimitz class>nimitz This is your mind on bongopium.
>>62135798>lmao just trash literally the entire super hornet fleet lmaoanon the people in charge of procurement are far smarter than you and it'd do you a lot of good to recognize that and shut up
>>62135544Wasn't it PoW that was the lemon?
>>62135742>...V-22 being slated to replace both C-2 and E-2...A disaster in the making
>>62135647>oy bruv is the Royal Navy innit!? Not the flipin British. So some fucking respect to your King mate!
British military is a comedy show.
Lol this triggered the fartsniffer so bad
>>62135544>when your carrier is so unreliable that it returning to sea is newsworthy
Florida, New Jersey, or New York? Sorry about the confusion
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-what-the-us-should-learn-from-britains-dying-navy-idUSKCN10L18I/
>>62135636Gotta wonder about retards like you. Hey dipshit, the problems with the carrier that are supposedly costing so much money have nothing to do with the launch system.
>>62136207Both ships needed replacement propeller shaft sleeves.
>>62137107>the problems with the carrier that are supposedly costing so much money have nothing to do with the launch system.No, they are on top of the launch system. The ramp was a terrible idea in the late 70s, and it has not gained anything to redeem it in the past half century.Doubling down on a failed concept is never a good idea.France understands this, China is working on it, even India is moving away fromo their failed Russian leftovers.South Korea and Japan will build a real carrier in the next decade. Britain is just embarassing itself at this point.
>>62137169>No, they are on top of the launch systemOh so now you're changing your argument, gotcha. At first it was "we could have saved the money and made a different launch system" but now you're pretending otherwise. I'm sure you hope we won't notice the change.Of course you're a retard so your second paragraph is just you gibbering nonsense again. South Korea's carrier has been all but cancelled. Japan doesn't have nor will have a CATOBAR carrier. India's domestic carrier has a ramp. France is limited in future aircraft because their CATOBAR system is steam instead of EMALS, and it wasn't possible to install EMALS on the QEs.Whatever psyop you're trying to pull here, know that all anyone thinks while reading your posts is that you're a liar.
Why would anyone call that a comeback
>>62137198>France is limited in future aircraft because their CATOBAR system is steam instead of EMALS"their?"The CdG cats are American C13.The PANG will use EMALS.>https://www.ga.com/ga-awarded-contract-continuing-emals-aag-evaluation-for-france-next-generation-aircraft-carrier>and it wasn't possible to install EMALS on the QEs.U wot mate?It wasn't possible when it wasn't built, but apparently it is now that it has already been built?>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_Aircraft_Launch_System#United_Kingdom>In October 2010, the UK Government announced it would buy the F-35C, using a then-undecided CATOBAR system. A contract was signed in December 2011 with General Atomics of San Diego to develop EMALS for the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers.[42][45] However, in May 2012, the UK Government reversed its decision after the projected costs rose to double the original estimate and delivery moved back to 2023, cancelling the F-35C option and reverting to its original decision to buy the STOVL F-35B.[46]You make no sense.
>>62137209Bongs are not your average anyone.
>>62138061>US MIC tries to scam bongs>Bingbongs spend their money in other things instead of being scammed.A failure by your own design locksneed.
>>62138061UK has never hidden the fact that EMALS can be retrofitted to the QE years after it has matured. Only steam made sense during the QE's construction. It won't be years until they are refit with launch systems.
>>62136950>Axe Davidlmao
>>62135584Dutch is just German after a few bottles of Jaegermeister.
>>62136950>2016>David Axe
>>62136204Yeah so smart lmao
>>62136238Nah it only needs a couple more marines as blood sacrifices to the tiltrotor spirit to iron out all the minor kinks
>>62135544So now they have more than Russia, huh.
>>62138135>Bongs being uppityLmao you sound Fr*nch.You will buy all of the 138 F-35B you agreed upon, the GCAP program will be slashed, and you will be happy.
>>62136204>anon the people in charge of procurement are far smarter than you
>>62135544The fuck even happened to it in the first place?
>>62142047>You will buy all of the 138 F-35B you agreed upongladly>the GCAP program will be slashedlol nothe UK and French always operated 3 main types of combat jets; superiority fighters (Typhoon, Rafale), strike (Tornado, Mirage 2000), and carrier (Harrier, Etendard/Rafale-M)currently, Typhoon retains the superiority role, and further takes on the strike role, while F-35B takes the carrier rolemoving forward, it's probable that GCAP will take over the superiority role, F-35B retains the carrier role, and future F-35B and/or F-35As will take over the strike role - it hasn't been decided yet138 F-35s is enough to fully provide for test instrumented aircraft, an operational conversion training squadron, and 6 frontline squadrons.the 48 was really a minimum buy to provide for test instrumented aircraft, an operational conversion training squadron, and about 24 F-35Bs for combat.funding has been cleared for an additional 26 F-35Bs now, for a total frontline fleet of 70 F-35Bs, of which at least 36 F-35Bs will be operational at any time, likely more.this is enough to fully equip one carrier, and even provide a self-defence squadron if the other is also deployed simultaneously.hence the door is open for the remaining 60 F-35s to provide 3 more strike squadrons for the RAF.GCAP would consist of at least 4 frontline squadrons, then likely more as it might take over the strike role from F-35. or even expand 1 or 2 additional squadrons, as the future grows more uncertain.
