is this sustainable for a global military superpower?
not particularly, no>BRDMhuh, thought those were extinct
For a global military superpower?Absolutely.For Russia?Not in the long term, no.>T-62 be like "the past is now, young man!"
>>62136063>D-20>D-1They are really going to make it through all the Cold war supplies aren't they.
>>62136063>Lancet tried to hit a howitzer, but it missed and hit an innocent bushIs this the power of the multipolar world?
>>62136063>>62136194>D-1>entered production 1943We get closer to the T-34 every day.
>>62136240>D-1 uses the barrel of the M-10 (developed in 1937)can it even fire modern 152mm shells/charges? or do they need to rely on korean imports only?
>Ran into a tree full speed while evading a droneMy sides
>>62136063>loaf>flatbread truckcarb loading i see
>>62136264Again?
>>62136240But there are no T-34 hulls in storage, only museums.R-right?
>>62136288I mean from what the wiki page says there are no D-1s outside of museumsCaptcha: GAY2T
Has anyone kept track of how many Bradleys have been lost? These are some of the best most capable fighting vehicles on the front, and they see intense fighting. Does anyone know if USA has a deal to replace any destroyed Bradleys automatically or do they need a new aid package?
>>62136297A very good point.Godspeed, russia. Nobody will ever beat your equipment loss speedrun.
>>62136317Oryx has it at 44 destroyed, 45 damaged and/or abandoned, and 4 captured. A lot of what Ukraine gets as aid is just store credit at the MIC, so they can make purchases that aren't part of the big donations that get all the attention.
>>62136240Is this the first WW2 heavy equipment piece?
>>62136063sheeeit, that's a wild amount of armour that got fucked. Everything from BTR's and MTLB's through to T80'sMind you the old MT-12 Rapira is a fairly good gun, its old as fuck but they were reportedly pretty accurate anti tank gun and relatively compact for I think it was a 105mm
>>62136063yes. the west is weak and decadent. soon they will get tired of killing russians and sue for peace
I cant feel my superpower, ziggerbros.
>>62136274Carlos!
>>62136446Thankfully for Ukraine, Russians are so fucking loathsome and degenerate that it'll be a while yet
>>62136274lmao
>>62136436He looks shockingly similar to Boris though.
>>62136279possibly, yeah.
>>62136344That loss ratio indicates they see a lot of use.
>>62136625Yeah. 47th is the famous one, but they've got about 6 brigades kitted out in the good shit, and they've been running up and down the line plugging holes for the last year.
>>62136264
>>62136696>Crashes and burnsChrist its a fucking comedy out there, what are they making their vehicles out of or is someone just rolling with open jerry cans of fuel and vodka or something?
>>62136696what did that even crash into? i can't see. ditch?
>>62136696>nyet I will not gives hohol a kill >TEKKO MONKE BLYATZAAAAIIII
>>62136757>loony tunes were not real
>>62136063I kinda really want a bukhanka, but none of them are going to survive this war.
>>62136767https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo
>62136776So does the Death Corps of Krieg. Casualties are just a number, cumrade.
>>62136063From looking at that it looks like Ukraine is holding on only thanks to FPV drones. Who would have thought LOL
>>62136776Yeah they are managing just fine to push few km every month.At this pace,10 more years and Kiev will fall.
>>62136776Ah yes, Rob "Russian Lover" Lee. Very credible source. I don't think there's anything this guy got right so far.It's the same guy that said turtle tanks would be a game changer and mocked Andrew Perpetua when he tried to correct him about turtle tanks actually being shit personnel carriers.
>>62136356Not if you include trucks as heavy equipment.There was also that IS-2 that the donbabweans used in an assault several years before the full scale invasion.
>>62136776https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1816007254597894647Not sure having your high ranking officers assassinated en-mass qualifies as "just fine"
>>62136776>Tanks (3259, of which destroyed: 2222, damaged: 156, abandoned: 362, captured: 519)>Armoured Fighting Vehicles (1476, of which destroyed: 1070, damaged: 36, abandoned: 99, captured: 271)>Infantry Fighting Vehicles (4331, of which destroyed: 3208, damaged: 147, abandoned: 360, captured: 616)>Armoured Personnel Carriers (466, of which destroyed: 322, damaged: 19, abandoned: 33, captured: 92)>Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles (56, of which destroyed: 39, damaged: 5, abandoned: 1, captured: 11)>Command Posts And Communications Stations (284, of which destroyed: 192, damaged: 5, abandoned: 2, captured: 85)>Engineering Vehicles And Equipment (530, of which destroyed: 312, damaged: 22, abandoned: 44, captured: 152)>Unmanned Ground Vehicles (3, of which destroyed: 3)>Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Missile Systems (44, of which destroyed: 19, damaged: 1, abandoned: 4, captured: 20)>Artillery Support Vehicles And Equipment (126, of which destroyed: 70, abandoned: 1, captured: 55)>Towed Artillery (389, of which destroyed: 237, damaged: 52, abandoned: 5, captured: 95)>Self-Propelled Artillery (790, of which destroyed: 632, damaged: 45, abandoned: 5, captured: 108)>Multiple Rocket Launchers (396, of which destroyed: 305, damaged: 35, abandoned: 2, captured: 54)>Anti-Aircraft Guns (52, of which destroyed: 33, damaged: 1, captured: 18)>Surface-To-Air Missile Systems (263, of which destroyed: 190, damaged: 45, abandoned: 4, captured: 24) >Radars (76, of which destroyed: 46, damaged: 20, captured: 10) >Jammers And Deception Systems (83, of which destroyed: 62, damaged: 12, captured: 9) >Aircraft (120, of which destroyed: 108, damaged: 12)>Helicopters (138, of which destroyed: 106, damaged: 30, captured: 2)>Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (15, of which destroyed: 11, damaged: 1, captured: 3)>Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (394, of which destroyed: 243, captured: 151)>Naval Ships and Submarines (26, of which destroyed: 19, damaged: 7)
>>62136805>Trucks, Vehicles, and Jeeps (3435, of which destroyed: 2728, damaged: 93, abandoned: 47, captured: 567)Da, cumrag, everything is understood.
>>62136696would it count as another suicide?
>>62136819>and then i wake up
>>62136804A few incidences now, but not really en-masse. yet
>>62136819>Russia can replace those in 5-10 years tho. That's horseshit and you know it. They had 30 years and still marched in on day 1 with Soviet shit in inventory, they're not going to do shit for replacing the Soviet stockpile.>Trump gets electedYes>Ukraine is forced to sing a peace treaty in favor of Russia I am going to laugh so fucking hard when he signs his first aid bill. Remember to livestream when you rope yourself.>Hybrid warfare continues So, Trump is going to parade himself as the great peacemaker, just for Russia to personally insult him by breaking it? Dangerous game.>Russia replenish their forces in couple of yearslollmao>US and NATO continues to deteriorateXD even>Germany goes back to funding Russian Armed Forces, business as usualYou and what Nordstream?>China and Russia continues to growlol>Round 2 with Ukraine in next 10 yearsGiving Ukraine another 10 years to buy Bradleys? It'll be even more of a massacre than this one.
>>62136819Russia will raise the Cumbrow and Europa will understand everything all at once
>>62136819Things haven't gone perfect for Russia in the last 2.5 years. Why would you assume that suddenly things would go more than perfect?Ukraine wont sign a shitty peace treaty, even at the threat of the US withholding aid. Fighting with just europe in your corner is better than signing what Russia offers. And here is a major thought, what if Trump gets it in his mind to get a great deal, cause he is a master businessman. So he will end up going quite hard on Russia, threatening them that he will drown Ukraine in aid if they don't become reasonable.
>>62136865>Why would you assume that suddenly things would go more than perfect?I'm just a doomer
>>62136757dude looks like a ghoul from fallout. What happened to him?
>>62136898Looks like a lot of burns + parts of skull missing, probably got rescued from destroyed, burning vehicle.
>>62136757How is that thing alive and conscious?
>>62136898Krokodil+freezing at winter as far as I remember.
>>62136819How do you replace 3300 tanks within 10 years making 100 tanks a year?
>>62136757This is an AI video, right?
>>62136927>KrokodilOh, that explains it
>>62136959>/k/opersYou have balls to call anyone here that after Russia started the war with those gems.
>>62136757Hey smoothskin
>>62136959calm down ziggy, don't explode now, there's fumes coming out of your ears.
>>62136917MD here.Most of what's gone are the apical parts of the cortex. They are sensory and motor (voluntary movements). They are not necessary for any vital functions required for autonomous life support and homeostasis.Basically his cardiovascular and respiratory functions are not too damaged, his sympathetic and parasympathetic fucntions are mostly intact, his balance and proprioception are okay... He will, on the surface, look relatively fine. The extent of the damage can be assessed by probing for each possible complication separately (fine motor, musculocutaneous sensory etc,.)The brain is also very plastic and part of the lost sensory and motor capacity can be compensated later on with proper treatment and rehab. It won't ever be 100%, not even 50% most likely, and seems like there are some issues with the vagocranium too, not just the neurocranium so this miserable creature is in for a whole new world of fun.
>>62136990Thank you doctor
>>62136696>drone operator be like
>>62136990in english doc
>>62137004The DLCs are gone but the base game is mostly fine, maybe some framerate drops and the occasional error that can be ignored at the cost of tolerable inconvenience,
>>62137004tl;dr he probably talks like a fag and his shit is all retarded, so not terribly different from the Russian baseline, he'll probably be declared fit to serve the rest of his contract in a week or so.
>>62137007But he will still have to pay for the yearly battlepass and put up with having shit anti-malware resistance right?
>>62136103they have thousands of these left. we will be seeing more of these when BMPs and MT-LBs start running out.
>>62137027>BMPs and MT-LBs start running out.Never thought that I would hear that in this timeline.
>>62137031Same, its an odd world we live in right now.
>2024>ziggers are still doing the "50 SAS/HATO generals killed in underground bunker" cope
>>62137022Yes, also compatibility issues mean he can now only play with other people running just the base game with little to no DLCs and bug fixes.+ no cross platform.>>62137007Adding to my post: the base game is in the middle and descending to the spinal cord. Everything around it are patches and DLCs. Only the base game is required to sustain life. All the other stuff are all the unncessary things like balance, knowing where you are in space, moving your everything, understanding things, sensing, doing things and whatever you do intentionally or can comperehend. All the stuff that your body does unintentionally, basically things that do not require user input and just happen on their own. You do not sense or comprehend the blood gasses receptors in your subclavian artery or consciously regulate vasal tone, for example.
>>62137063>he can now only play with other people running just the base game with little to no DLCs and bug fixes.Fortunately for him it won't be an issue in russia.
>>62136819>China and Russia continues to grow>continues does he know?
>>62136063>giant train of T-62s spotted>over 1/4 of them wiped out in one daykek
>>62136788Every sentient human-being who is not a russcuck?
>>62136063>mostly T62So it has come to that..huh.
>>62136356I would say so.
>>62136776>Russians managed to advance at the lightning speed of almost 1km per day for the first time in two years at very narrow part of the front. They even captured 1 (one) village.It has never been more joeover.
>The most documented lost tanks Russians lose these days are T-62sGrim
>>62136788I guess getting btfo by FPV drones is a win for russians somehow now
>>62137422Still a lot of other tanks as well, but T-62 numbers are definitely getting up there
>>62137516T-80 bros not like this
>>62137516Then again, this is a 3 month moving average. Latest weeks have been very rough on T-62
>>62136063Russia has lost this war and in six months will ahve lost its conventional militaryRussian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded4.07.2024Tanks — 8302 (+14)Armored fighting vehicle — 16013 (+13)Artillery systems — 15759 (+65)MLRS — 1125Anti-aircraft warfare — 902 (+1)Planes — 363 (+1)Helicopters — 326UAV — 12544 (+33)Cruise missiles — 2402 (+1)Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 1Trucks and fuel tankers— 21279 (+77)Special equipment — 2650 (+10)Military personnel — aprx. 570120 people (+1140)>>62136063>a global military superpower?You mean in Russia?The Russian military is a military superpower in Russia?
>>62136063FPV drones shouldn't even be a threat to Ukraine this late in war. Every APC, IFV, and tank should have a fuckton of jammers protecting them by now or it is just a dead weight. If stats could look like this day every day this war will be done by Christmas
>>62137544>24.07.2024fixed
>>62137516Man...T-80s are irreplaceable losses, right?UVZ only works with T-72/90 hulls and engines.Also many of those T-80s were special arctic models stationed near Finland's border. Premium lostech.
>>62137546The Russian conventional military will effectively be over by autumn, however if they don;t 'negotiate' to leave Ukraine and had over kids/pows/war criminals, then this could go onto summer 25 for actual TZD and Russian social and economic collapse. It may be better for Ukraine and the world that for example, the entire Russian airforce is destroyed along with the ground forces
>>621375461. EW is a constant cat and mouse game, it's never "solved" unless your opponent is out of technicians 2. from Ukraine's perspective and probably Russia's too, navigating EW laden environments is a well trod problem, it's a hazard not a barrier
Any estimations how many tanks Russia currently fields in Ukraine? not the storage numbers
>>62137562Even the most optimistic projections from experts state that Russia won't lose all its tanks and artillery until another year and a half from now. And even if they hold on that long they still have to deal with the endless supply of planes Ukraine has barely scratched dropping mass produced glide bombs on positions. It is why Russia is slowly gaining again. Russian planes drop the bombs from too far away to be targeted by air defense so Ukrainian soldiers on the ground can't really respond. It is also why every city in the frontline is starting to look like Mariupol for some reason. Artillery being wiped out matters less and less because now the meat waves are being protected by glide bombs instead of artillery. The only way Ukraine can change the way things are going is by going apeshit with their long-range drone production and start spamming far away airfields that host Mig-31s, Tu-22M, Su-34s and Tu-95s to death
>>62137558Practically all their tanks except the T-72 and 90'sBut they have the bottleneck of equipment and fittings which means that they're replaced at a rate of about 25-26 T-90's a year and I dunno about the other ones. The other bottleneck I found is the press-machinery used to make heavy gun barrels in Russia is apparently one unit and by design it's not able to make more than 100 barrels a year- once you factor in all the drilling and milling they can make a gun barrel about every 3-4 days.This isn't hugely strange for gun barrels and similar systems exist in England and the US to make them as well and sort of why they switched to rockets- gun barrels are hard. Or more specifically, precision engineering so you have to be very careful in their composition and processing. Whereas a rocket, its just a tube, rocket goes out and does its thing, more expensive a munition but you don't have the technical hiccups in the west because, well they make it all.
>>62137595A war ends way before one side loses all of its tanks and artillery. I'd bet that tank numbers Russia can have in Ukraine at any given day has already peaked. Probably almost no good condition tanks left in storage and refurbishing bad condition ones takes time. The big number of golf cart and motorcycle assaults this year is a result of this already.
>>62137595Russia won't lose all of its tanks, the stockpiles are being more difficult to reactivate and replacing losses is increasingly difficult.Also glide bombs can't replace all artillery, or if they try to they'll start having shortages too. Air strikes can only do so much anyway.But yeah, it's not an easy victory for Ukraine and I'm happy cucked Biden is fucking off. Hopefully the lards move away from cucked muh escalation shit.
>>62137632Yes, I know, but the air force is still massive
>>62137638>But yeah, it's not an easy victory for Ukraine and I'm happy cucked Biden is fucking off. Hopefully the lards move away from cucked muh escalation shit.Kamala probably isn't going to be any harder on Russia than Biden was
>>62137646>>62137638Stop derailing and politics baiting you fucking retards. KYS
>>62137646I get the impression Kamala would be very soft or totally beholden to her advisors, I don't know who they would be/what their stance would be.
>>62137658>>62137657
Nothing is derailed, take your meds
>>62137668KYS
>>62137646I mean Biden was guaranteed not to change anything so at least there's some hope.
>>62137616>Practically all their tanks except the T-72 and 90'sSoo... only T-80s? Unless you count museum pieces and vaporware.
>>62137679>>62137657
>>62137595AT most they are supposed to have ~9000 artillery pieces left. At less than the loss rate for the last six months, lets say 40 guns a day they loose 1200 a month. They need 6000-7500 minimum to cover the 1000KM front in UKraine as their guns are shorter range and less accurate requiring a barrage from three guns to secure a decent chance of a hit where as something like Caesar Panzerhaubitze 2000 would pop it with one hit. You can now sit down and join us in watching the countdown to teh Russian military defeat because you can't fight in the open terrain in Ukraine without artillery, you can't defend (even minefields) and you can't attack. The only thing the Russians can do is press their aged air frames into the role of artillery and get them shit down or beg obsolete towed guns from north Korea, they have done both, confirming the situation. Need 6000-7000Have 9000Loose 1200+ every 30 daysDo you understand? Unless something miraculous happens Russia has lost this war and not just the war but most of its conventional military if Putin does not surrender ('negotiate') and carries on. Ukraine is not even fielding its best gear like the F16s its just winning by having more accurate longer range artillery that is better crewed with better satellite and sigint and radars. They are destroying every radar Russia moves into Ukraine and Russias artillery reserves. Now you can watch with the rest of us to see if putin nooks this winter because his military is fucking over and his minefields and trenches useless if his artillery can't .hold zero'd sites to stop breaching.
>>62137595>endless supply of planesRussia has lost over 1/4 or its airforce and 1/3 of its Air defense.and the only reason losses are not higher is Russia has kept what's left out of Ukraine. What's ;left is also not great, the usual story, old air frames with a lack of new engines. How many are still even flight worthy? well it won;t matter because its basically a suicide run against patriot batteries.
>>62137727>1/3 of its Air defenseProbably more than a third>Russia has lost over 1/4 of its airforce???
>>62137681The T-80 was the 'Cadillac' of the USSR tank forces, well made, good to use and shooty enough shoots so its why they ended up in 1st Army and 4th Guards kind of forces for the important guys they needed to actually do something like hold off NATO forces piling across the border and blowing shit up on the plains.T-72 is the Toyota Corolla of the USSR, easy, cheap to make, bit of a cunt to live with and mostly 'good enough'It suffered a massive optical hit in the wars of the middle east were it became synonymous with being immolated by Abrams and Challengers so they needed a 'rebrand' with the T-90 which was actually a fairly substantial gun and a lot better turret, but the rest of it is still essentially T-72 chassis.Also technically the T-62 is also in the T-80 linage as well, but its a bit distant enough to be sort of an ancestor and its really not a very good tank and the T-64 was sort of the 'unfucked' version of the 62
>>62136297>T-34 mauled by BradleyJust imagine...
>>62137738Russia is down 362/1379 aircraft,326/961 helicopters. There have been a lot of signs of desperation from Russia regarding parts for helicopters, trying to buy engines from abroad from state they sold them too etc. Russian places do not equal western planes, their jet turbines wear out three times faster due to poorer metallurgy, they have to be replaced three times as often and the base stock of Russia fighter and ground attack is essentially soviet era air frames that only lasted this long because Russia pilots get barely any flight time compared to western pilots. The Russian airforce can never act as a substitute for artillery, it can only act as a suicidal stop measure and there is not much left to do that with. The fun bit is airforces are the vital asset for dictatorships, the ace card for a dictators control of a nation as you saw in Syria.The FSB can't afford to loose what is left or their 80 year old grip on power in Russia is over..
>>62137788>362What are those 362 planes?>1379You are off by a few thousands>961 helicoptersNo comment
>>62137516what is next after t-62?
>>62137742Wrong. The T72 was build to be the cheap export version. The T64 was the 'better'; version. The T80 was the USSRs last gasp to try and make a modern tank and the main problem they have is they were build during an era when the working population making tonks in the USSR generally just stopped giving a shit. The better ones (like the T64) were made in Ukraine and stayed there, the exception being the ones on the Finnish border. There were so many problems with T80s that were sent to the wars in Chechnya that the Russian state reverted back to spraying go faster strips on a T72 and calling it a T90 to sell to jeets and trundle around in parades. So its not so much the T80 is a 'good' tank for 'elite' units as that it was the latest tank made when gommunism collapsed and the guards units always got the latest thing. Many of them were made to such abysmal standards they wound up in reserve depots because they can only run for 24 hours before something else falls off. The key point is teh T72 was NEVER intended to be the mainstay of the USSRs tank fleet, it was supposd to be a cheap disposable export variant and things went wrong for the USSR and Russia.
>>62137825T-55s and T-54s, they have already been in use in very small numbers
>>62137823Ah ok you're just a liar here to blow his retarded little doubt trumpet for Putin. We actually got to watch a lot of shoot downs here because the Russians took a lot when they flew over Ukraine in the first year.
>>62137825T-54 and 55's!Which we have seen, but I mean its a stretch considering most of them got parted out and melted down a long old time ago. Shit if someone told me to go fix a 70 year old bulldozer or tractor with no parts and make it happen anyway... uh, no! It'd be a massive, awful amount of work to get it running, let alone a damn tank with barrel tolerances, optical systems older than anyone who ever worked on it and had been chewed on by siberian rodents/vatniks for however long for all its copper wiringJust nono no no no
>>62137835They were in use in very large numbers but not so much as tanks but makeshift artillery pieces when Russia had its first ammunition crisis because they still had munitions for the T54s main gun. The Russians also use tanks without engines as static AT pillboxes leaving only 1-2 rounds of ammunition with them
>>62136063Yes. Because its a question of sustainability in relation to your opponents sustainability.
>>62137844We literally watched long long train loads of those T54s going into Ukraine as well as Russian media monitor moaning on about them. Who the fuck are you and why are you here spouting shit? Are you stupid, uninformed or just a liar?
>>62137844The T54 is very crude compared to a modern tank so less work, and they were using them on earth ramps as makeshift artillery as well as static pillboxes.
>>62137861'Trainloads'There's been a couple tops mixed in with masses of T-62's, there isn't vast fleets of 55's roaring back into action
>>62137868Why are you lying? Did you just come here today? or did you just find out about this war today or something? yes trainloads and it was a big deal on this board when it happened. Russia has been in deep trouble for a long time. It was sending men in with tanks with broken auto loaders and towing tanks with no engines a year ago.
Russian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded24.07.2024Tanks — 8302 (+14)Armored fighting vehicle — 16013 (+13)Artillery systems — 15759 (+65)MLRS — 1125Anti-aircraft warfare — 902 (+1)Planes — 363 (+1)Helicopters — 326UAV — 12544 (+33)Cruise missiles — 2402 (+1)Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 1Trucks and fuel tankers— 21279 (+77)Special equipment — 2650 (+10)Military personnel — aprx. 570120 people (+1140I see the sliding is underway
>>62137883A year ago I was in he UK training Ukrainians for 12 months, from what I've seen when I could there wasn't exactly huge swarms of 55's, plenty of 62's but not nearly as many in terms of 55's. They're of very limited use anyway given just about everything is worn out
>>62137852>Because its a question of sustainability in relation to your opponents sustainability.This is why it isnt sustainable for russia lol
>>62137921They have bigger equipment stores than Ukraine and they are inching forward across the front.
>>62137902So you have no fucking clue and are some gobby retard from the TA who just found this board. OK then colonel blimp. Go and do something about the huge hold Russian spammer have on UK veteran groups and groups like Patriotic alternative hey?
>>62137928>inchinginteresting choice of wordslaos an accurate measurement of their actual daily progress at the costs of thousands of casualties daily
>>62137928>>62137902You're a fucking retard, a liar and vatnigger shill or identical to one.
>>62137967The Russians quite obviously dont care about casualties. If your enemy doesn't care, you shouldn't either. They have the initiative, they are advancing and they have the equipment stores to do this for at least another 18 months. Ukraine doesnt. This entire argument is pure foolishness.
>>62137965I'm not from the UK, they dragged my busted mess out of ex-mil and asked that I help because I can speak Ukrainian, Russian and half a dozen other languages and have extensive combat experience that would help. I am in no way going the /pol/ bullshit with anyone here, I just do not fucking care enough to bother.
>>62137988given the rate of attrition on actual people movers, no they don't
>>62137988>>62137990 The level of dribble from vatnigger spammers .
>>62138003>given the rate of attrition on actual people movers, no they don'tLook at the confirmed losses of MT-LB's not at what's sitting in boneyards. Counting what's in boneyards and trying to draw conclusions from that is yet more foolishness. If I have 10 vehicles in a boneyard, and then a month later they are gone it does not mean that they have been destroyed, it means I moved 10 vehicles.
>>62138013Seek medical help you deluded cunt. I have friends and family in Ukraine, there's no way I'm ever pro-vatnik
>>62137988Is Russia stronk? In my oblast of bugaria they say also victory in three days in inevitable for the mister putin? Surely it is so!!! Finally my mother will get the carpet the Russian soldier promised her in 1979 when she informed on the village drunk for having insulted the communist party and we may live in a house with a roof!
>>62138034Yet you dribble on.
>>62138015I can look at OP's picture and see the ratio of MT-LBs to chinese golf carts losses and see that in fact, they're fucking gone when the Soviet Union had thousands in storagethey're not held for a surprise offensive or in transit, they're just gone
>>62138037Not an argument.
>>62138015Russia is really not sending ist best here these days. >The vehicles are gone, yes, but where who can tell but surely not destroyed now we shall watch swan lake! How can Russia loose!
>>62138045>they're not held for a surprise offensive or in transit, they're just goneOr maybe they prefer the golfcarts to MTLB's, which is not surprising because the MTLB is a gun tractor not an APC.They have lost 900 MTLB's, they had ~3000 in storage at the start of the war. Boneyards being devoid of MTLB's does not mean total MTLB death has occurred. Use your brain.
>>62138046Neither is your uninformed dribble and spew of what would be opsec defying psychotic fantasies vatnigger.
>>62136063>All those fpv kills Why is it so hard for Russia up just put nets on their vehicles?
>>62138015>If I have 10 vehicles in a boneyard, and then a month later they are gone it does not mean that they have been destroyed, it means I moved 10 vehicles.Correct it does not mean the removed vehicles are destroyed. It means enough have been destroyed in two years that the entire stock is necessary in order to repair or replace them, and that future losses will have to be made up for with inferior equipment (which, considering we are talking about a tractor forced into an APC role, is saying a lot)>They have the initiative, they are advancing and they have the equipment stores to do this for at least another 18 monthsTell me what composition you expect the Russian forces to have after 18 more months fighting at the current rate. If you can't you're talking out your ass, and if you can we can actually look at facts and figures instead of your whiny feelings.
>>62138055>yes, but where who can tell but surely not destroyed>895 MT-LBhttps://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html>>62138066Why am I a vatnigger? Because I thing your fangirling of this conflict is foolish?
>>62138058>Yes this is so in our oblast they say the MB-LT went on a magical journey to discover the land of far away and they live their now, drinking tea from a samovar on the moon. But they are surely not destroyed! That would be
>>62137988>another 18 monthsMeaning another 300-500k casualties and how much ground gained?
>>62138058They have around 470 left anon At current rate 113 days
>>62138077>. It means enough have been destroyed in two years that the entire stock is necessary in order to repair or replace themIt doesn't because the Russian army in Ukraine is growing. We have a rough idea of their losses. We have a rough idea of how many MTLB's they have. The two numbers are very different. >Tell me what composition you expect the Russian forces to have after 18 more months fighting at the current rateAccording to Perun it would be roughly what they are using now and then it would be a sharp decline into older equipment. >and if you can we can actually look at facts and figures instead of your whiny feelings.I'm the only one actually looking at facts and figures. You're the ones getting emotional - I've been called a "vatnigger" how many times now?
>>62138015If losses of x vehicle slow down and they are gone from the bone yards, that most likely means they have been made near extinct.Boneyard to frontine is not a 1-1 conversion. Multible vehicles are cannibalized to make one.
>>62138081If you don;t know why are you are a smelly vatnigger retard this is a really strange place to come and find out. Your mother fucked a Russian soldier and you were produced as an abomination in eastern Europe? Your grandfather let the NKVD ride his wife and got a shed in lavia? Who knows or cares.
>>62138087>They have around 470 left anonIn storage. A vehicle not in storage does not mean a vehicle has been lost. >>62138084You're seething because you dont have an argument.
>>62138058>They have lost 900 MTLB's,You're this retard. I recognize you. You only cite Oryx numbers and claim them as the objective figure, then leave the thread immediately when anyone points out that Oryx himself regards his figures rightfully as a floor, not a ceiling or the true number.Also, there are over 1100 MT LB losses recorded on Oryx.
>>62138092>It doesn't because the Russian army in Ukraine is growing.Russian army is not really growing, their numbers remain the same.You can quite accurately track their casualties from their recruitment.
>>62138098, they a total of 470ish left. Total.
>>62138092You've passed the point of spewing retarded vatnigger crap that can't be taken seriously by anyone several posts ago and now you have broken down into reddit format posting,. Just fuck off vatnigger.Russian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded24.07.2024Tanks — 8302 (+14)Armored fighting vehicle — 16013 (+13)Artillery systems — 15759 (+65)MLRS — 1125Anti-aircraft warfare — 902 (+1)Planes — 363 (+1)Helicopters — 326UAV — 12544 (+33)Cruise missiles — 2402 (+1)Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 1Trucks and fuel tankers— 21279 (+77)Special equipment — 2650 (+10)Military personnel — aprx. 570120 people (+1140https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boj75h3urLU
>>62138107Sorry. The Russians have around 467-473 total left. In all.
>>62138095>If losses of x vehicle slow down and they are gone from the bone yards, that most likely means they have been made near extinct.Or they stopped using a vehicle that is not an APC as an APC? >>62138096Okay, lets post guns. >>62138099Even if its a floor pre-war according to Covert Cabal they had 3000. So even if we double the confirmed that Oryx has found from 895 to 1790 lost it means they have another 1200 left which is about 18-24 months worth.
>>62138098There are too kind of vatnigger, one you laugh at and ones you kill. You are the comical idiot form that dies of hypothermia in a padded coat at 50 clutching a coffee mug with a picture of putin on it as proof of loyalty.
>>62138108>You've passed the point of spewing retarded vatnigger crap that can't be taken seriously by anyone several posts ago and now you have broken down into reddit format posting,. Just fuck off vatnigger.Post guns. My not agreeing with your foolishness doesn't make me a vatnigger.
>>62138119No one cares about your spam you lying retarded vatnigger halfwit. You can't slide reality.Russian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded24.07.2024Tanks — 8302 (+14)Armored fighting vehicle — 16013 (+13)Artillery systems — 15759 (+65)MLRS — 1125Anti-aircraft warfare — 902 (+1)Planes — 363 (+1)Helicopters — 326UAV — 12544 (+33)Cruise missiles — 2402 (+1)Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 1Trucks and fuel tankers— 21279 (+77)Special equipment — 2650 (+10)Military personnel — aprx. 570120 people (+1140https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boj75h3urLU
>>62138122>calls others vatniggers>cant speak English Pottery.
>>62138128>>62138108>gets mad because someone on the internet disagrees with him >starts spamming
>>62138119AnonThe most accurate counters for 2 and half years are saying 467-473 total left. I don't know what to tell you. Russians need to push right now. There window to victory is right now. With Kamala v trump, it means aid is coming heavy no matter who wins.Russians are out of time
>>62136063>Ran into a tree full speed while evading a droneKEK
>>62138142>The most accurate counters for 2 and half years are saying 467-473 total left.In storage. Which is not the same as whats left in service. Use your brain.
>>62136063>Flatbread truckEvery fucking time....
>>62137595>Artillery being wiped out matters less and less because now the meat waves are being protected by glide bombs instead of artilleryI'm sure a glide bomb that needs 15 minutes to reach the target is gonna cover advances faster than multiple artillery barrels
>>62138124Being a vatnigger does though.
>>62136063>Tracked Garden shed(MB-LT) >Lada Niva>BTR 50PRUSSIA STRONK!
>>62138160Uh huh. Until the war ends Russians will suffer.
>>62138184Oh no, after this Russians will suffer for a generation, at least and that's fully deserved. In fact if Russians want to see what they have won for their grandchildren they should read up on North Korean concentration camps.
>>62138067Most of these drones have a modified fuze ( the little steel wires that are used to close the circuit), so net's and slats don't have an effect on them.
>>62138092>It doesn't because the Russian army in Ukraine is growingI don't see evidence of that, since the initial conscription surge it has been fairly steady state. Most reports indicate that losses and new inductees are proceeding essentially apace.>We have a rough idea of their losses. >>62138119>So even if we double the confirmed that Oryx has found from 895 to 1790 lost it means they have another 1200 left which is about 18-24 months worth.There are 1,200 losses on Oryx. You can't even misuse a number properly, what the fuck are you doing? I don't trust this "we" you speak of to speak for me or any intelligent observer. Any intellectually honest observation of these figures requires both the understanding that Oryx is a minimum, and initial storage numbers are a maximum (many of those units, including those already pulled, will not be viable for anything but spare parts) >I've been called a "vatnigger" how many times now?I'm not a gestalt, not my problem >According to Perun it would be roughly what they are using now and then it would be a sharp decline into older equipment. We're already in the sharp decline into older equipment. You're not even going to acknowledge how it gets worse from here?
>>62136928Sell every last factory to the Norks as well as all remaining prisoners/mobniks/entire population of Sakhalin to serve a slave labor and pay for the tanks by transfering ownership of Sakhalin aka New North East Korea?
I feel sorry for the Ukrainians but am delighted at the Russians stupidity in staying in this war to be killed. Hung by their own folly in a state propaganda myth regarding their mystical power to survive attrition warfare. Every day there are more dead Russians and less liars, thieves, rapists and murderers in the world as a consequence. The world is sweeter better place with every day of combat in Ukraine to the measure of 1000 Russian lives and the inevitable harm, lying, theft, cruelty, rape and murder they would have done in their lives.
>>62138240a quick check shows me that Russia hit 500k on May 25th, so 2 months to lose another 70k~, not a bad pace all things considered and assuming it stays consistent we are looking at another 170-200k dead by the end of the year. So somewhere between 750k-800k. barring anything radical changing they'll hit the big 1mil by the middle of next year
>>62137595>Russia has thousands of tanks and IFVs >Lose all their active vehicles >Replenish their Battalions with reserve vehicles >They lose those too>Go into deep stockpiles and refurbish their older but good condition vehicles with spare parts from ones in bad condition >Run out of those too, only thing left is very old trash that is missing parts you cannibalized already >Russia is at this point and unable to find any miraculous fix Meanwhile Russian air sorties have dropped from a height of 350 in 2022 to being around 50-75 in 2024. Ukraine in 2022 was dealing with way more aerial bombs and artillery than they currently are facing, and meanwhile their glide bombs seem to be rather ineffective at moving the front.
>>62138058>Or maybe they prefer the golfcarts to MTLB's, which is not surprising because the MTLB is a gun tractor not an APC.Kek, are you the "Russian soldiers prefer to not have optics" guy?
>>62138305>50-75>North Korea does 100-120 a day for patrols, and training>Russia in war flies half the number of flights the DPRK does at peaceSecond Air Force in the world!**Actually the US Navy is second
>>62138356>North Korea does 100-120 a day for patrols, and trainingNorks report doing 100 patrols a day or doing so?
No, here's whats going to absolutely fuck russia in this war. Russia fires a shit ton of shells a day. The barrels on those guns get fucked up, and that screws up the accuracy to the point where it's actually pointless to fire the gun because it has a high chance of landing in your own lines and killing your soldiers.Making artillery barrels takes a lot of work, and Russia has only two factories with the rotary forge machines that are necessary to make the modern barrels. Those particular machines were imported from austria. They can't make more of them because they only ever imported rotary forges from other countries. Durring ww2, the rotary forges were bought from america, so the making of those machines is (lost technology blyat).Right now the ziggers are taking barrels from old howitzers, but they only had like 7500 of the barrels, and there's about 4800 left.No barrels, no artillery, no war.
>>62137686>lets say 40 guns a dayUkraine's reported numbers apparently include mortars so the loss rates would likely not be that high. It will take a good while still.
>>62137686>40 guns a dayMan I'm fan of TZD as well but come on... It's probably 1/3 to 1/4 of that.
>>62138424RoK number based on radar returns. Alot of it is probably small craft (think AN-2s) doing short hops for officials or things like helicopters being used for construction but they do maintain naval patrols and usually have a few Migs in the air. It isn't a very high number compared to their number of aircraft, their Airforce is actually pretty big even if everything is so old but they have alot of stuff like old prop fighters and even biplanes they use for training that use alot less fuel than a jet does. A squadron of AN-2s could probably fly all day for the amount of fuel a Mig-29 uses in a single sorty.
>>62136696>suicide FPV gets a manoeuvre kill on a mini pickupThat's one for the books. This is like the Iraq growler kill or the gbu a2a kill
>>62136788Or maybe, bear with me here, FPV drones are wildly overrepresented on these lists because they are by far the easiest system to confirm kills on. Which also means actual russian losses are HIGHER than this.
>>62138503Gotta add the pieces that need replacement from wear and tear (and nork ammo mishaps) to that too. Which is hard to say how high that number is. Artillery is certainly the one area that looks the most dire for Russia.
>62136190>Not in the long term, no.good thing this shitshow will be over soon thenhttps://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/20/europe/ukraine-zelensky-uncertainty-russia-negotiations-intl/index.html
>>62138503I've heard this claim before, but then how do you explain his amazing coincidence where Ukrainian MoD numbers reached 10k destroyed arty pieces at about the same time satellite photos showed roughly 10k units removed from storage. Almost as if the numbers were largely accurate.There might be an error bar of 10-20% here, but even that would not change the situation much. Russia is utterly fucked.
>>62138651two more weeks?
Why is BRDM-2 "Other" and not "AFV"?
>>62138651Thats what Russia thought in february 2022. Don't you think it would be smart to have a long term plan? You know, just in case.
>>62137988Ukraine has the manpwoer and equipment stores and support to do this for at least another 18 years. Kys, zigger.
>>62138034>I have friends and family in UkraineNo you don't. Also you're not from the US you're not from Finland and you're not "ex-mil", Indiana vatnigger.
>>62136836Trump is going to lose badly, and that's a good thing because he would start sending military aids to Russia after Ukraine refuses to accept every single Kremlin condition for peace
>>62138772>>62137657
>>62138651kek, Ukraine could unconditionally surrender tomorrow and it would still be a complete disaster for ziggerstanPeople will be laughing about this shitshow for centuries to come, just like we're still laughing at the time russia sent their rust tubs to war against Japan
>>62138092>It doesn't because the Russian army in Ukraine is growing. The Russian Army, in Ukraine or otherwise, has not grown by any meaningful amount over the last 2.5 years. Why are you lying this transparently, vatnigger?>The two numbers are very different. Not anymore, and they keep getting closer every day. At a rate proportionally far exceeding that of Ukrainian losses, wether in men, equipment or ground.>According to Perun it would be roughly what they are using nowThat's not what Perum is saying. Why are you lying so transparently, vatnigger?>I'm the only one actually looking at facts and figures.You're the only one looking at chzerry-pciekd vatnigger propaganda, and then embellishing it ven further. Why are you lying this transparently, vatnigger?>You're the ones getting emotional Say the guy who is desperately lying and screeching and making up more lies to cover for his earlier lies when called out on them. Why are you projecting this transparently, vatnigger?>I've been called a "vatnigger" how many times now?I don't know? How often did people call you exactly what you objectively are, vatnigger? And why is this supposed to somehow support your transparent lies?
>>62138191>they should read up on North Korean concentration camps.or just visit their local soviet gulag, it's far closer and pretty much the same
>>62138672an AK can shoot through it
>>62138191>Russians will suffer for a generation,much, much longerand it still won't be long enough
>>62138568The AFU destroyed 57 guns around a day or two ago.
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