Buccee's Blues EditionTrade, create, and sell your patches!Post good design ideas and maybe a patch store will make them.>Last Thread>>Midnight Pretending EditionTrade, create, and sell your patches!Post good design ideas and maybe a patch store will make them.>Last Thread>>62249442>Where can I buy that sweet patch/ find patches?https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-list/>Classic Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD (2016)>other listshttps://hackmd.io/@Patchboi/PatchThread (2021)https://hackmd.io/@chef5estrela/ByQJ8OFtn (2023)>Where can I buy that sweet patch/ find patches?https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-list/>Classic Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD (2016)>other listshttps://hackmd.io/@Patchboi/PatchThread (2021)https://hackmd.io/@chef5estrela/ByQJ8OFtn (2023)thread themehttps://youtu.be/yDf6eXu47YI
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Where do I buy a hyperborean buccees patch?
>>62374091Bucees rules
>>62374091buccee's FUCKS
>>62374091inshallah brothers
>>62374091Bucees is full of fat fucking mexican families all the time, place sucks.
>>62374091>>62374698I will buy NV and walk around bucees
>>62374710Coincidentally all the same things are true of your mother
>>62374091europoor here, why buccee's so popular?
Buccees is Most GreatDeath to AmericaDeath to IsraelCurse the JewsVictory to Trail Mix
>>62375992BECAUSE
>>62375992It's like a gas station but not shitty. For a lot of people in the US an actually convenient store (not a "convenience" store) is a cosmic experience.
>>62375992Been twice when I was traveling out of state>very good food compared to the competing gas stations>...>pretty clean but so is Love's so IDK there>TexasMost of the merch is just random Chinese stuff with Buc Ees logos slapped on them, the shirts were fun, the beer selection was decent, jerky selection stupendous, and the hot and ready food rocked. Everything else is just marketing, the billboards are pretty amazing.
>>62374301yeah, when sneed patch restock?
Newest patch acquisitions
soon. I dont think moogs is gonna make it in time so she will have to make an appearance the one after as punishment for stealing strawberry
>>62374713W2C??? I had no idea that got released
>>62374336Someone pls
>>62374710That’s just America in current year anon. Fat and brown
>>62378302Pretty sure you contact the seller's PayPal. YuccaFlatsMiningCo. or something like that
>>62378171https://frenchpressindustries.bigcartel.com/>>62378302no website, you have to email anon @ Yucca.Flats.Mining.Co@proton.me
>>62374091Hello patch bros. Does anyone have that pic of Kraut's "Xen Exploration Team" patch image. He released the design pic a while back. I have it on a hard drive somewhere but I was wondering if anyone here had it on hand. Wanted to send it to a custom patch maker one of these days
>>62361017Where do I buy it?Also, anyone who knows where to get Armored Core patches that aren't AC6, please tell me.
Pallasposting. Idk when these will be ready.
>>62378046where to obtain bottom right?
>>62380677Koz
>>62380235
>>62374091What is wrong with people? Who does this unironically?>>62375992It's a Texas-sized convenience store where you can gas up, get food, and buy shitty beaver merch.>>62378340Thanks god I don't live in Texas.
>>62380235What is this from, looks familiar
>>62375992>long drives across great expanses require snacks>it's the perfect union of Japanese convenience store variety and CostCo bulk>beavers are industrious and tastyThe mascot's Ameri-Spurdo mostly.
>>62378647Really need this nigga to wrap up that beer run he went on and gin up some Baaqi Al-Bivaar flags
>>62381309where do you get a black sun buccee?
>>62381320If only there were like 5 posts about it in this thread
any patch sellers in eu?
>>62384406Fat Cat is in Poland. Besh is still out for smokes. https://fatfckpatches.myshopify.com/
>>62383940There aren’t? There’s a bunch of lists but I can’t find it in any of the paste in links
>>62380731thanks
>>62374710Georgian here. The one I know is about 40 miles north of Atlanta and it's just full of rural whites.
>>62385474Here, retard>>62378647
>>62387013so where do i get it?
Came back home and some amazing patches were waiting for me.
>>62374091what's the best baseball cap brand to put a patch on?
>>62387482
>>62376828I need a small hard hat sticker of this.
>>62374091preddy good but maybe should have gone all in and commissioned an arabic calligraphy representation of buccee
patch request
>>62393710your body odor is in violation of the clean air act of 1963
>>62393710would buy
>>62391459wow you are in luckhttps://badgerhoundsupply.com/product-category/stickers/
>>62391459>>62395489https://badgerhoundsupply.com/product/sneed-sticker/
>>62395489>>62395555Too large. 1.5-2" is a good size for hard hats.
>>62374091who are you and what have you done with summaryanon?
>>62381309>Baaqi Al-BivaarHot dangit man
>>62374091Having a Labor Day sale if anyone wants some good /ak/ themed stuff:25% off all patches/stickers30% off all milsurp/one-off items in stock.Running from now till Monday night at 11:59pm CST.https://moemilshop.com/Wish the new drop of stickers I got coming was here, but it won't arrive till next week. Oh well...
>>62374710That's because you live in one of the worst states.
>>62375992Because it's a big fuck off gas station with everything you possibly dream of.
>>62399949The worst state even. Disgusting honestly.
>>62396077maybe I'll make some smaller ones at some pointLabor Day sale is up, 30% off patches with code "Labor24" also restocked this possum and a red triangle manufacturing co. patch
thinking of "your ad can be here" patch
>>62400569top zoz>>62393710>le edgy internet nazi incel: the flag
>>62398374Hello
>>62400718what a shame that lewd patches come with black censor rectangles
>>62400546something like this?
Maybe somebody someone will make one
Sticker idea
patch idea
getting ready for my airplane trip tomorrow
ahem
>>62403358wtc
Patches are up :Dcode is "Summer" this timemoogs wasn't ready in time sadly but will stop by later
>>62403399saving the best one for last amiright
>>62401201yes something simple
>>62403399PUDDI PUDDI PUDDIPUDDI PUDDI PUDDI
Got some "Never Goon" patches out. Also use code LABOR24 for 15% off throughout the labor day weekend!
>>62403851https://yooperpatch.com/shop/never-goon-patch/forgot link
>>62403399I would buy if you hadn't ripped me off on my last order and then ghosted me when I asked about it. Can you just send me my shit so I don't feel like I have to take everything off my wall on principle? And I like your patches dude so this fucking sucks. Is it that hard to fix your fuck up?
>>62404523shid anon, probably fell through the cracks, aho isn't a scammer and I'm sure he'll fix whatever error happened as he's fixed several for me so calm your tits nigger
>>62404808>shid anon, probably fell through the cracksyeah, fell through the crack of my ass
>>62404523I've had issues with Aho fucking up packages too and stopped buying as a result, but you need to slow your roll a little. As long as he's aware of the fuck up, which he certainly is now that you've shit up the thread, I'm confident it'll get sorted out soon.
>>62404523truth be told i've been struggling to keep up lately and ngl that preorder made it worse. nonetheless the plan has been to go through backlogs and get it all done this 3 days weekend since I have more time. I am sorry for the wait but I will make sure you're taken care of>>62405603I've since stopped sorting by name when packing which is usually causes the issues. I'm sorry for the trouble & do you have everything you needed from me?
>>62404523>>62405825alright went ahead and resolved rnand a psa for everyone, any new orders probably wont see a tracking # till mon or tues. I'm gonna stop so I can sort everything
>>62405943>I'm gonna stop so I can sort everythingThere really isn't much money in the niche patch business and being a seller is more of a hobby than anything. I'd make more money (and faster) getting a weekend job at Home Depot or Hot Topic. Good on you for making it right in such a public forum
Howdy Goys,I’m the guy who does the cute little gun guys. My life has been kinda busy and it’s been hard to justify spending time on the doodling of these fellas. As a result I’ll be offering little commissions for the gun guys,15$ a pop. If you’re interested hit me up by email: punishedpigeons@gmail.comThanks for enjoying these lil guys, makes me happy y’all liked them.
>>62403375This image is in my "to make" folder. One day Ill get around to it.
>>62403358lol nice, give me a link please, i got some new ones today too
Whoever said Ai was shot in some tow truck mob shit, I now believe you
>>62403399Do you think you could do an OCP/Multicam subdued version of some of the patches? I would buy but I need subdued for my larp.Particularly interested in the 9716 Radar Decoy SQ, Temporal Reconnaissance Wing Patch and the JS Kaga patch.
patch sellerI am going into battleand I want only your strongest patches
>>62400153Need a tec 9 patch to go with my Mac 10 patch.
Tec 9 patch when?
>>62411557damn that’s fucking sad, just a kid
>>62403851>not shipping to canadaHow am I supposed to express my hatred for this country if I can't buy the anti leaf patch?
>>62414116cant help but wonder what a patch thread seller meetup would look like
>>62411636Yeah I can probably do that>>62403605so true >>62403768based puddi enjoyer
meguca
I'm sure that boomers in my unit got no idea what any of those patches mean but who the fuck cares. Also kinda want to get me some stalker patches. Sorry about the shitty quality.t.Ukie
>>62414319I guess I could ship to Canada, but it'd be like $17 or so for shipping.
>>62416295Potentially more/less depending on where you live but $17 seems to be the average from what I've looked at*
All recent orders are going out tomorrow! Also working on Volume 3 for a Fall release. Drop suggestions or requests if there's anything specific you wanna see
>>62393710based and makes weak kikes seethe
>>62417762>>62393710requesting this
>>62417875directionally based but it's kind of a shit design desu>>62419927looks fantastic. what's this from?
>>62374713I'll do that on my drive home tomorrow, hopefully I pass by a bucees before dawn
>>62375992Imagine driving 2-4 hours straight to desolate wastelands. Bucees is an oasis after such grueling rides. Granted a lot of the travel centers are pretty nice but bucees has both the quality and the atmosphere. Plus the gas is usually cheaper than what's close by
>>62421456Death tarot card. Last post was upside down.
Here's everything that's currently in stock - there's an active coupon for 30% off patches for Labor Day - "Labor24"
>>62398374About 10 hours left in the sale for the store, just a reminder there is no code required (but if you sign up for the news letter, you can get an additional 10% off!)
Lunchtime Rowdy Elimination Squad patch when?
>>62393710Roman salute/10
Wendigo girls with nods and guns?
>>62374091
Had this sitting in the envelope for the past year and I finally slapped it on a bag, then took it to a nearby range and a couple of the employees got a real kick out of it. I now feel like this is gonna make a lot of people's day, being in Texas and all.
>>62411557He deserved it
>>62425879how do you like the reflex? do you have any other micro 9s?
>>62425988Sorry it's a 509c not a reflex. Never shot any micro 9's either so couldn't tell you how it compares to others.
I remember seeing some really cool patches from declassified Air Force missions. Can someone make some stuff like this instead of anime girls?
>>62425451where do I get yuriwaffen patch?
>>62403358Come on anon, where did you buy this?
>>62424647How did the culture get to this point. Imagine commissioning this from an artist in 2004
>>62425953Pretty sure that isn't Ai, but yeah he's in hell either way.
>>62428094Think it is. I lost all my shitposting and doxx stuff for Neet him and sticky. He looked as faggish as that guy.
>>62428124Sticky and NEET deserved to be doxx'd. Fuck those guys (sticky is a guy).
>>62428157Yeah I exposed him during a stream where he was wearing a huge diesel watch. After that he started wearing gloves to hide his man hands lol
>>62403383>>62408862>>62427787im still getting some kinks out of the design, but ill be ready for sale soon. I think im going with the cutout version rather than a background/border.-yfmc
>>62428174You remember those napkins drawings I did? I wish I still had em.
>>62428224Man I had all the pics saved. Wish I could get that folder back
>>62428586Why did those fags disappear from the general anyways? I didn't lurk for a few years.
speaking of oldfags I just put up one of Besh's knives in the garage sale section of the site
>>62428652Me
>>62429821Ah, I figured it was you, Kyle. How've you been?
>>62430750Pretty good. About to sell 2 houses
>>62412519
We need a patch to commemorate Paul
>>62433267my sentiments exactly, honestly next payday I'll buy a god used ll.Bean tan field jacket in his honor. shit, honestly if my cetme build gets refined enough and actually cycles and is flawless I'll probably paint the mag like a poptart box and the rest of the rifle like the late 1980's mud blob camo to contrast against nice walnut burl
>>62407547For a more accurate depiction, you should make him effeminate, brown and seething. Just like all resentful and hysterical anti-war protesters America had to put up with.
>>62433366t. Spec. Gomez, Eglin AFB
>>62433366>effeminate, brown, seething, resentful, hystericalQuite the opposite, but feel free to sacrifice yourself, Israel depends on the cannon fodder
>>62433366Post wrists
>>62436115>>62435690>>62435661Jeets out in force today>>62436333Even this serbian cuck rolled up
>>62428174>during a streamOnlyFans?
>>62436645Picarto or w/e it was called
>>62436333Breee cigane, reka san ti, upucaj se.
>>62411557QRD?
Is it stolen valor to wear the unit patches of a disbanded army whose former members are still around?
>>62437148I think the SS guys kicking around in Latvia would be okay with it as long as you're not ugly
>>62437148possibly, but would be much simpler matter if you got rid of those former members
>>62433075this needs that pedo symbol and star of David, then it'd be perfect
I have a mighty need for that silly ass kiwi patch
bump
>>62417762
>>62437148no and who gives a fuck?
>>62398374Ah yes my new patches are here.
>>62405040Yo lemme cop the Konata patch
>>62375992Before Buccees, the only place to take a fat shit and shit out the HFCS goyslop were random gas stations with disgusting bathrooms, sometimes the bathrooms were locked and the clerk didn't have the key, or a druggie would shoot up in the bathroom etc etc. Bucees is a lot better.
>>62450413>israel has no right to existthe irony is that ultraorthodox jews agree with you
>>62374091buckies is gay
>>62398374Where new stickers?
>>62429774I have mine sitting right next to me. Thinking of putting on leather straps so I can attach it to a molle belt.
>>62425451dinosaurs are my best friends
Fuck this captcha man
The ukranian has a new patch but it's pvc which I'm not a fan of.
>>62454532You don't need to pretend to be someone else while shilling your PVC garbage, Ukrainian.
>>62454728Tell him to restock Yukari Mittuns schizo, that's all I care about.
Am I doing it right?
>>62454782>Brotherhood of NOD>uniform isn't blackyeah actually you are doing it wrong
>>62455180the original Nod troops were grey.
>>62441212I know Arc Dream sells pins and key chains. Haven't checked if they sell patches. Shame they support faggotry
>>62375992It's the KISS of gas stations. You are going for the larger than life experience.
>>62455600Peace through power, brother
>>62455862In the name of Kane!
This is all i got
>>62454532>The ukranian has a new patchWhat's the link?
>>62455600
>>62457384Pic. He deleted all his shit though so idk what's going on.
>>62457818Yes... Fashion shifts more quickly than some people think.
>>62459019Forgot my fuckin gif
>>62450413W2c
>>62459089https://3sjshop.com/products/anti-israel-patch/
Any Dungeon Meshi patches ?
>>62384823Oh shit I remember when fatfck was new and just had the one or two fatboro patches. Cool to see he's big now. I haven't actually been around for a couple few years or so. Shame to hear besh is kill
>>62380235Why isn't he angrier?
>>62417762I'm all for more Christian militant stuff, but I'd also be interested if you expanded on this one
probably my favorite one
>>62456855Not often I see an AZ NG patch, nice.
>>62454782yeah
>>62458181>>62457384https://t.me/archirai_art/721
What do you even put these on
>>62467423Patch boards, some of these anons are former military so have patch boards.Cops/LEOs have patch boardsAirsoft guysPaintball guysSHTF real boogaloo guys who have 6 sets of gear ready to go
>>62467423clothing items and anything else I can attach velcro to.
Anyone know of any cool F22 or F15 stickers?
im interested in sneed and out patchesshill me I'm not in the us
>>62415449are you inna Ukraine?
>>62467649Red Flag Workshop has some, but a lot are sold out. I have an Ace Combat one.https://redflagworkshop.com/collections/air-force-patcheshttps://www.pinetreepatches.com/product/pixy-s-f-15-patch
>K-On patch hasn’t shipped yetAho what’s going on big guy?
>>62470654Mine shipped on the 6th. He's probably still trying to get everything out
>>62374091i ordered a patch from skinwalker over a month ago and ahoworks almost a week ago and neither are shipped yet. its over
>>62471148I waited a month for my skinwalker order recently but it showed up last week, have patience anon, people get busy or lethargic
>>62450413>>62461064The patches are great if you're a /pol/ edgelord, but god it looks like a honeypot. I cannot order sadly then.
>>62404523>>62405825>>62405943It's me again. Wanted to clear Aho's name here as any issues have now been resolved. Really truly appreciate you making it right as that seems to be pretty rare nowadays.
>>62472099My NEET patches finally showed up as well so we're vibing this Monday.
>>62472104>we're vibing this Monday.oh god shut the FUCK UP
>>62472195On this exquisite day>Verification not required.
>>62471544yeah, if your not already on a list you will be after ordering from there
Anyone got a hookup for some cool medic patches? I have one that says “the more you scream the faster we come” but I’m always looking for some more
>>62467539Where’s the cowprint one from?I love me any milk or cow related patch
>>62475107https://anonpatch.com/products/a-medical-place-patch
>>62475183There's a couple Tomboy Sweat milk carton style patches around
>>62411557Yeah, we all got a real abrupt crash course in the hell that Canuk towing mafia wars are. Still insane it's real, and moreso that it's so unheard of to most folks, given the scale.>>62414116It always blew my mind he was so young. Really good dude, he'll always be missed.>>62414422Usually a bunch of fun, either going out shooting or just hanging out.>>62467423Personally I get big sheets of trunk liner/felt from Walmart, works great for hanging a few hundred patches on your wall. Otherwise they go on my hat or plate carrier.
Would any embroiderer be able to make patches?
>>62478069yeah
>>62477950holy shit where have you been
>>62475183I got it from Ahohttps://www.ahoworks.com/product-page/i-m-a-cow-patch
>>62479451What character is that?
>>62480028Himeno from chainsaw man. idk why there is a thing of drawing her in cow print though, I read the manga a few years back so idk anything to do with the anime. Also could anyone make a patch out of this Shikanoko image.
>>62481346I'm sorry you have to go back
>>62481405>NoFunAllowed.jpg
>>62414571Got any timeline on when we'll see Moogs?It's just not the same without the entire band, but cool patches anyway Aho
>>62481443>Art made by literal Gay Tranny ActivistsI'm sorry Anon, monke is funny but that image is actually gay nigger shit.
>>62481346kill yourself tourist faggot. that image wasn't funny in 2013 either.
>>62481513That image is never not funny, you zigger.
New patches
>>62481463>all these buzzwordsYour body odor is detectable in the next county anon, in case you were wondering why nobody likes you
>>62481513
>>62451566Sorry, it's been hectic atm.Uhh, about 80% of them have arrived now, I'm just waiting on the last few to get shipped, then I'll make a big post about it then. Probably by either the end of this week or sometime next week.
Autumn is almost here and so is Volume 3! As always, see poll related to vote on designs.https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2AppKJgN
>Sold out>Sold out>Sold out>Sold out>Sold out>Dead websiteWhat the fuck is wrong with this place? It's like the owners don't want to make any money.
>>62414422>>62477950bunch of racially ambiguous zoomers and one female (koz)
>>62482505You think people make patches to make money?
>>62482484I will buy a few of those
>>62482505Patches died out years ago.
>>62374091Anybody?
>>62428187>but ill be ready for sale soonhows it looking? i want to get a couple in the OP pic too, figured id order them together and save a little on postage
>>62483906>couple in the OPThose are literally the most stupid patches ever and you will look like an idiot wearing them. Best to keep them locked away on your idiot patchwall in the closet.
>>62482484You'd probably be the right guy to ask, but I've been pushing for years now for a Fuddy Seethe Derpwrangler Brogade patch (36th SS Derlwanger) Basically a pair of crossed clown horns on a black Waffen SS unit shield instead of the crossed grenades
what do you guys do with patches
>>62484035Psychic armor, they protect fragile egos. They aren't worn.
>>62484035put them on my range bag obviously. you do have guns right anon? unless of course...
I'm starting to think the poster who asks what are done with patches is the same poster and he's just bumping the threads retardedly.
>>62484136yeah
>>62478549I've been around, mostly working and whatnot. Just happened to be bored at work and found this thread, crazy it's the one where Ai was getting mentioned.
>>62483997How rude
>>62484678The truth Hertz doughnut.
>>62482484Fuck yeah Halloween patch!
>>62484704>NOOOO stop liking things I don't like boohoooooFuck off.
>>62484035I put them on my plate carrier, range bag, backpack, and hat. So far the only one to get any comments was the little Garand Dude on my hat because I only shoot on private property
>>62480652Eyepatch should have given it away. Idk why the cow either. Aho you around to explain that one?
>>62484663any plans to release more patches?
>>62481454she's done now and could go up but if she goes up tomorrow it would literally just be her alone T^T
>>62485376It's not about that, it's about juvenile and rediculas choices. And you know that, that's why you're so hostile and defensive.
>>62472099Glad you got them ^^ sorry it took a bit longer
>>62485749I love the round one on top. where did you get it? does it fit on a hat?
>>62484663yo can you restock your "Space Shuttle Door Gunner" , "Christmas List" and "Wanna play?" patches? Missed out ages ago and always wanted these
patch idea drawn by my gf. Was originally going to be "would you still love me if I was a worm" but that was a bit too wordy. I think this gets the point across all the same, though
>>62484035Put ‘em in a patch binder.
Restocked these - also put together a bundle of possum patches
>>62493086Kinda cute.
>>62493633Based Edelweiss enjoyer
>>62486054Big tits simple as
>>62493086Nice wormWould
Anyone know if Koznstahl is inactive? I ordered a patch two weeks back and haven't heard a peep.
>>62384823>>62461441glad to see you guys still remember me even though i don't post as often anymorei have reworked catbeard black and restocked cato and loaf cat todaythere's also 20% off of szlugita and fatrlboro patcheshere's the comparison between old and new (bottom) catbeard, come over and take a look :3
>>62497013Man, really would prefer if this was embroidered.
>>62493086cute
>>62497064there's literally not a single fair priced embroidery shops in poland
>>62496862He just posted here 2 days ago.
>>62497578Yeah i had completely missed it, got a mild amount of retardation on my face.
>>62484035wear
>>62493633Where did you get the “something bad will happen soon” and Kay patches?
he's here. Also death's flag from the tarot card and restonked the angry pine tree.https://www.pinetreepatches.com/product/manul-shield-patch
>>62500299Oh darn it, I was hoping you'd make him angrier.
>>62374091Yucca Flats Mining Co if you're reading this you are quite the gentlemangetting the pre release king patch makes me feel all warm and specialappreciate u
>>62499849PK Patchworks, and Waifu Dynamics.
>>62500396Forgot the pic
>>62438012Kek
>>62374091>>62451566And a follow up, but the new stickers have arrived. They will be on the store starting at 10am CST Saturday!And just for you anons here (though obviously share it around if you want): A 9% off your entire order discount, use this code at checkout: "PatchThreadBlues"(Good till Monday at 11:59pm, enjoy~!)Why 9%? Idk, it's September. Don't think too hard.
>>62500299Kino. Someone needs to make a compilation of every patch thread SS division shield
>>62386843You lie. I see Mexicans in the one in Calhoun constantly.
>>62502193I wish you’d make “smug anime girl.jpg” into a patch desu senpai, would cop
>>62500396aww thanks! I make a bunch that I really don't know what to do with so I just send them along with folks.I'm going to be moving at the end of the month, so I think I'm going to pause the patch thing until I get settled in, maybe early Nov sometime
>>62504276That can be arranged, ngl.
Been out of the game for awhile, is the long Miia patch still being sold?
>>62508501Woodpatch stopped posting on /k/ years ago. Of course not.
I went through every site listed, couldn't find the Buccee's black sun - where get?
>>62509653This might surprise but the answer is in this thread if you know how to read
>>62507158lemme know eta so I can give you some of my hard earnings
why has there never been a shoop da whoop patch? @aho
>>62510016That's a good point. I'll get on that
>>62510048
>>62510001Sure, it'll probably be with another patch set release closer to November then.
>>62426162They made a /pol/ one and it was kekI would unironically buy that patch/wall art
>>62512052am excite, curious about your other releases this come november too
>>62482505stormcrow will be back inshallah
test
>>62380235need
>>62426162>>62513053
>>62516396I bought the anime one instead back in the day.
>>62516396Does anyone still sell this? If not, I'll consider taking it over (maybe with a blue octopus, heh..)
>>62510222check'd
>>62502193Sale ends tonight at midnight for (you) guys, just an FYI~
