namer
>>62496030I hardly know 'er!
>>62496030K
>>62496030I think it looks pretty cool, but really stupid with the proposed turret.
>>62496046The turret looks fine.
>>62496065The turret looks fine, but it's out of proportion to the vehicle. It looks a lot less silly on the Eitan.
>>62496040I
>>62496046That's looks great though. Like an actual serious vehicle and not like a tank that's gone under a too-low bridge.
>>62496030What does it name?
>>62496046That is a very proportionately correct turret, anon.
>>62496035Underrated.
namer with cope cage
>>62496112I dunno, but I thought the Jews don't like being named
>>62496558Thirdie scum once again misunderstands the difference between cope cage touted to be effective against javelins and other modern wester ATGMs and anti-drone defenses, whcih are effective against thirdie shit and russians who can't think of anything better.Why do we have to do this every day?
>>62496040>>62496097K
>>62496046it's not getting adopted
i have a love hate relationship with italmost 5 years that i worked on namers
>>62496723That looks like it's about to fall off the mover. Don't leave us in suspense, did it fall?
>>62497048it's not supposed to be on that part of the mover it didn't fallbut it was a pain to remove it and it damaged both the trailer and the truck
>>62496030"its average sized right?"
>>62497063Lol.How'd it get up there, the driver just floor it?
>>62497113yes
>>62496686why not?doesn't Israel have a need for normal IFVs with autocannons?
>>62497182i don't know whyi assume it's because they didn't find where to fit in doctrinallyif they were actually considering it, it would've been tested in gaza right now it just serves as a footnote in the IDF internal internet merkava project website
>>62496030Nosediverbergstein
>>62496035kys
>>62496723Namer says "Shotgun!"
>>62496723poor volvo
>>62496686IIRC it was foreign customers who this is proposed for. Colombia and Azerbaijan.
>>62496035i came here to make this joke.good job anon
>>62496723Pros and cons?
>>62496030Mobile Oppression Tower is online.
>>62496112>>62496591It names the jew. That shouldn't be surprising, because militaries name their vehicles after things that are scary to them. Germans are scared of big cats and called their tank the "tiger", we call our drones "reaper" and "predator," they call their IFV the "namer".
>>62496030Is this the 60 ton IFV?
>>62501594i can't think much of cons beside weight and sizemy hate comes from hurting myself a lot working on it and bad choices made by the engineers that make maintenance more difficult than it needs to be
>>62503065that's the APC version, but it weighs more than 60
>>62496650Since when are the Isrealis fighting against a Javelin-equipped force?
>>62503099that's exactly his point
>>62496030xbox hueg marder
>>62503099>esl moment
I love donating my hard-earned money to fund weapons R&D for shit rats in the middle east because I am retarded and gay
>>62496030Reminds me of something..
>>62502482Israeli tank museums have some of the best collections of zoo animals on the planet.
>>62496650TL;DR, it's a cope cage no matter the nationality.
>>62504687It just looks like a cover to try to keep grenades from falling into open hatches. Which is logical since I've personally watched >9000 perfectly nice tanks obliterated by little hand grenades falling from drones into open crew hatches.
>>62504389American "aid" is actually vouchers for American companies, none of which developed the Namer. So, while you aren't American, you're definitely retarded and gay.
>>62504753nta, but it's true to about 80% of the money, the rest goes to R&D, especially joint projects, so some of that money maybe did end up in the namer project.also some of the namer hulls are made in the US, on which the vouchers are definitely used.together with all sort of parts that the namer uses, like KVH gyroscopes
>>62504687jews used these long before russia
>>62506959maybe that is just sunshadeDESU, well sorted at least optional sun/rain shield should be a given on any MBT or APC/IFV, if nothing else but to keep crew fresher.Make it big enough to cover driver's hole when turret is forward and strong enough to sleep on or carry rucks, dismounts, etc.
>>62496650Its not even that. Theyre in the desert, its just a parasol to shelter the hatches from the sun
>>62502482I love and hate how this thing looks
>>62496650>touted to be effective against javelins and other modern wester ATGMsThis happened, in your mind.
>>62502482Mobile panopticon
>>62496650It’s still a cope cage, don’t read so much into a meme
>>62507109its not a tankit has no turretit's a centurion based APCnagmashon/nagmashot/nagmachon
>>62496046Fuck you, the turret is cool.
>>62496723>>62497160Certified conscript moment.
>>62502482I wish I had quality images of the Nagmachon. It seems like a cool concept, especially being built on a Centurion chassis.
>>62506959Is this a different Centurion-based APC, or merely a different kind of Nagmachon?
>>62496723>>62497063why do israelis crash tanks so often?
>>62496723How does this happen? Surely driver is drunk or high on drugs?
>>62508855It absolutely was being said here you disingenuous lying fag.
>>62496030>namerBut I didn't give birth to 'er.
>>62509824i'm sure it's just because we take more pictures grunts are always dumb>>62509848when you get an APC on one of these there is a moment you don't see anything but the sky from the periscopes inexperienced drivers sometimes panic and floor it resulting in shit like thatunrelated to this case, but a defect in an older version of a piston that regulates air intake for the engine cooling, that's connected mechanically to the gas pedal, can cause the gas pedal to stickthere was a case where a mk3 flipped because of that while trying to get on a trailerthe namer has the same parts
>>62496035beat me to it
>>62503099>Since when are the Isrealis fighting against a Javelin-equipped force?The iranians have made a copy of the Israeli fiber optic guided spike missile, it has a similar flight path as javelin but muuuuuch longer range.
>>62509888Mechanical problems make sense, yeah. I'd guess sometimes those might be a bitch to figure out if there's a chance of operator error.But, do modern militaries do somekind of "dry training" on loading tanks and other heavy vehicles to flatbeds etc in controlled environment?I'd figure that would take a high priority even after one accident.Thanks for informative response, anon.
>>62509955we do that, also combatants get to use very expensive simulators that simulate everything the vehicle experiences. it's not like this happens often. but accidents happen. also specifically this incident happened while this battalion was training to switch to this kind of an APC
>>62496030This thing is absolutely worthless in war thunder. Heavy as fuck, no armor, turns out spikes are an unreliable meme. It's shit.
>>62510025>muh vidya
>>62510025>spikes are a memeAre you retarded? Like the most tested and used modern weapon in its category. Jesus Christ who are you fucking retards and where did you come from
>>62510019>we do that, also combatants get to use very expensive simulators that simulate everything the vehicle experiences.Ah, should've guessed. Our folk do that as well in pretty neat simulators. And yeah, even in perfect conditions whether we like or not, accidents do happen. But holy FUCK does this>also specifically this incident happened while this battalion was training to switch to this kind of an APChit right at the homebase.I have been exclusively driving toyota hiace's for almost two decades as my work vehicle, no matter what, even not sleeping for 2 days i could operate those bitches like it's no problem.Then, just recently, company decides anon driving those old ass rustbuckets is bad rep and force me to drive a new volkswagen.Guess now i know what the older folk felt like when they had to suddenly master teh interwebs.
>>62510145nope it's absolute fucking hot garbage. Never hits shit. Cope.
>>62510148it's worse the APC they used before, the Puma, had a driver hatchso they would load them on trailers with their head sticking outat no point you would end up staring at nothing but the sky in those - at least i am pretty sure it's so, i don't have the certification to drive that one
>>62510145Dude fuck off the fucking thing hits at an angle that's absolutely worthless vs modern tanks. Shit sucks.
>>62510025there are so many things they got wrong with it in the gameeven the side skirts are wrong don't know if they fixed the gearsbut can't do shit about it, because i have no non classified documents that i can post as proof the spike being bad is just their balancing
>>62510203>Dude fuck off the fucking thing hits at an angle that's absolutely worthless vs modern tanks.the what? why do motherfuckers think they can juust come to the internet and lie?
>>62510659>didn't destroy the tankfucking worthless, just like I said. Don't get pissy with me just because your shit stinks.
>>62510659That'd just be a crit hit in war thunder and then they'd fix themselves or just straight up pen your worthless shit armor and one shot you.
>>62510257They made them even heavier by around 3 tons recently with no change to engine/armor so now they are even worse than before.
>>62510025Tell me about it, had a game just now where I launched all of my spikes at an Abrams that was out in the open and it still fucking survived. Had to finish it off with my auto cannon.
>>62496650Javs were only handed over post-invasion. Russians were rocking the cope cages from the beginning, because there was a report from Syria that said adding slat armor to the top of the vehicle was a good defense against whatever attacks were going on down in Mad Max land. Tank crews were ordered to jerry-rig cages onto the roof of the turret before the invasion, the cope that it could stop Javelins came after everyone started laughing at vatniks for welding a fence to the roof of their tanks.
>>62496035Kek
>>62511161>Javs were handed over post invasionNo they werent retard. Niether were NLAWs.
>>62511161>Javs were only handed over post-invasion.wrong. > Russians were rocking the cope cages from the beginning, because there was a report from Syria that said adding slat armor to the top of the vehicle was a good defense against whatever attacks were going on down in Mad Max land. No it was a desperate attempt to defend against specifically the Javelins the Ukrainians had. Drones weren't widely used in Syria and definitely not to the extent they would add cope cages to thousands of their tanks in response.