Post vehicles exclusively from East Asia. No shitposts, no memes, no trolling, no shilling.
VPA M48's.
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I love the Akizuki and Asahi-class destroyers, they're good looking ships with good capability for its weight class. >>62497696If there's any chinkshit that I actually like, it's the J-10. It's different and looks better than the eurocanards. It's also a fairly up to date 4th gen, certainly better than slavshit but at the same time (comparatively) not heavily propagandized like other chinkshit. Granted, all of this is nearly completely owed to the IAI Lavi, paid for by the American taxpayer, being sold by Our Greatest Ally.
>>62497696>No shitposts, no memes, no trollingYou are not the boss of me.
>>62497708I feel it's no accident that the superstructures evoke that of the Imperial-era heavy cruisers.
>>62499396this vs JF17 for king of the dinky chink fighters
>>62498023On the topic of the J-20, are they planning on navalizing it or are they still trying to push the FC-31 as their new carrier plane? Or will they just continue to use flankers off the new carrier?
>>62499958Haven’t heard of any navalisation projects for the J-20, seems like the FC-31 will be their equivalent of the F-35, minus the vtol variant. There’ve been images circulating for a couple years of the FC-31 with naval features, like a strengthened front landing gear and allegedly foldable wings.
>>62499396>Fuck-1 from COCK AFB.
>>62499958>>62500152J-31/35 will be their Naval stealth fighter simply because the J-20 is fuckhuge and it won't fit in their carriers.
>>62500352The J-20 is smaller than their current J-15 (tbf the Su-33/J-15 aren't really successful carrier planes)
>>62500908I mean we don't really know if the J-15 is good or not since they never actually use them besides bullying patrol planes on SCS.It's probably better than the Su-33 since they actually gave a shit on giving modern composites and eletronics.
>>62501011I'm talking about the original J-15. Even the PLA was dissatisfied and there's a development for a new carrier plane, maybe the J-15B or the J-35, idk because they never stated anything else.
>>62501034I'm probably wrong, but didn't they bought like an unfinished Su-33 from Ukraine and then it developed it from there? By the time they were already producing J-11's(Su-27) in China as well.There's an interesting documentary about their story and how their whole program started. It's kinda cool if you ignore the occasional self-wanking and dramatic effects for the sake of drama.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw24KOY4wHgApparently they had a few crashes in the first years of training.
>>62499135>I feel it's no accident that the superstructures evoke that of the Imperial-era heavy cruisers.that's crazy because they're just license built arliegh burkes.
>>62497696Could you tell the difference between a F-2 and a F-16?
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>>62497696>>62498023
>>62501524F-2 is larger for some reason.
>>62501605>F-16: :|>F-16, Japan: :0
>>62498265>If there's any chinkshit that I actually like, it's the J-10Same, I can’t conceive why euros didn’t went with diverterless intakes as well, at least on the later blocks
>>62501524Barely, size is super difficult to judge even from a relatively short distance, Most characteristic is the forward sweep of the trailing edges on the wing and Espe the horizontal stabilisers
>>62500908Most likely, the delta wing design doesn't lead to suitable landing characteristics for a carrier. Flight software and engine performance could also be reasons as to why it wouldn't be a good candidate. On top of the obvious structural issues that would need to be addressed to transform it into a CATOBAR capable platform. China has spent billions on R&D, and $130 million USD per J-20 fly away cost and still are trying to get it's intended engine into mass production. They don't have the resources to do it, right now.
>>62498265>If there's any chinkshit that I actually like, it's the J-10. It's different and looks better than the eurocanards.Because it's a US Israel design, and not chinsect. It's just a Lavi stretched to fit a shitty Soviet engine, with an F-16 DSI intake graphed on. You like it because it IS European. He is Song Wecong - the J-10 designer - with the Lavi design team in Israel.
>>62501524Nope
Malaysia has the F-18 A/B AND Mig-29. Not sure how that works of logistics..
KAI FA-50 is a nifty little plane, the new Block 20 also finally adds AMRAAM compatibility
https://x.com/AKEBOVO/status/1833692501078884681
>>62506965NTA but they bought the project after it was abandoned and developed it from there.The Lavi and J-10 nowadays are pretty much nothing alike except for looks.Still, i wonder how it could've been if Israel developed it further while China kept going with Shenyang's J-9 program.
>>62509764Correction, it was Chengdu working on the J-9.They also had another variants for it which were only on paper, you could say that it was a "proto J-20" before they decided to go all in.
>>62509770A J-9's erodynamics testing model.
>>62509774"J-9B IV" or something like that iircThe J-9 was a (cancelled) program but afaik none of those prototypes got the definitive designation "J-9" and china never revealed their prototypes designations, for the sake of organizing they're referred to as "J-9 x" (ie "J-9 II") "J-9B - x" and so on.
>>62509827Yea, there were a few variants like the "J-9VII" which looked something out of 1970's mech anime.
>>62497696Absolutely sex looking plane, the one Chinese fighter I like the look of because it's kind of like a supe'd up Mirage.
Military comprised of: Taiwanese small arms, South Korean armor, Chinese aircraft, Japanese ships, North Korean flair
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>>62497696Chinese fighters look like hammered dog shit. The sole exception to this is the J-10, which is actually a pretty good looking plane. Definitely my favorite looking PLAAF plane. >>62508278They really do know how to paint a pretty plane.
>>62510356>he doesn't rate the JH-7
>>62510457I rate the JH-7 as aesthetic dogshit.
Any word on the J-10D?Just showed up once and then it vanished. Cancelled?
>>62510356The J-8II is objectively cool looking
>>62510356What about cute looking planes?
>>62513442>just a shittier mig 21
>>62513442Grumann designed.
How about some one of the most obscure Asian combat plane?
>>62513595Nope, they only got involved much later, until "things that never happened" happened.
>>62516587Yep, if you think chinks are capable of designing anything then you're either a seething chink or a delusional idiot.
>>62513657Neat, I never knew they toyed with a militarized attacker version of that plane. I almost forgot that the AT-3 itself existed. >>62499135>"destroyers" (size of cruiser) named Myoko, Atago, Maya, etc. (heavy cruisers)>"destroyers" (fixed-wing aircraft carrying vessel) named Hyuga, Ise, Kaga (battlecarriers and an aircraft carrier) Yep nothing to see here>>62501136They have wider and taller superstructures than regular Burkes, hence why it gives off that impression. >>62516597To be fair, I can think of a single (and only one) Chinese aircraft that isn't copied from or derived from a foreign plane to my knowledge, the JH-7. >>62510623Maybe they decided to go with the J-16D instead? I'm not aware of J-10Ds even being in service. That and China is probably spooked by F-35 production rates on top of themselves building new carriers, hence why there's been a bit more exposure for the FC-31 (and shill threads for that matter)
>>62510623wild weaselling seems like a too much for 1 dude to handle, although with modern computers that could change.could be useful for J10 squadrons to have organic EW
>>62497696>You are a humble Krivak who dies a slow, ignominous death from neglect>Somehow your bones are dragged up from the oceans depths and used like the first godzilla's were to make Mecha Godzilla>Awakened decades later>Wtf i'm Korean now???!! What the hell happened to my body? It feels...Diffrent.....>You don't know what a 'Stratgic Nuclear Strike Costal Frigate is' but apparently that's...You?>>The short chubby guy wants you to fight an entire carrier group? How crazy is he, you just want to go back to your watery grave there is no way you can do that...>Wait, What is in these tubes on my back? TEN OF THEM!?!?!>You crave a second death but the fat man has a job for you, if you wait a little while longer maybe you can both get what you want...Mean while the crew avoids wandering the lower decks at night as the sounds of Russian whispers can be heard some nights mingled in with occassional sobs, screams of rage and sometimes even manical laughter.
>>62517383Oops, only eight. It's the new sub that has ten.
>>62507404Contrary to what people say, Malaysia bought russian and american aircraft out of necessity, not simply because of shit and giggles. For years malaysia had been denied access to more modern aircraft because the US is playing favorites with singapore, philippines and thailand. At one point they just said "fuck this" and went to the russian instead. America putting both Indonesia and Pakistan under military sanction really spooked Malaysian decisionmaker hence why they're willing to buy russian made equipment which is generally cheaper and russia is willing to accept almost anything as payment.>Malaysia wanted more F/A-18>Malaysia looking for second hand USN/USMC F/A-18>Uncle Sam said no. Instead offered up F/A-18F>Malaysia tempted to buy F/A-18F but didn't want to surrender their existing F/A-18D as part of buyback option>Deal went dead>Suddenly US came back and "hinted" that they may export F-35 for Malaysia if they could permanently stationed their F-15/F-16 in Malaysia because reasons.>Malaysia said "take that F-35 of yours and shove it up your ass" subtlyTil now American suffering loses because Malaysian opened the market gate for Russian and European arms sales on SE Asia and destroying the American arms sales monopoly.
>>62507515the latest Block 20 version of the FA-50 ordered by Poland and Malaysia is better than the previous version as it had newer capabilities and can be considered as a "mini-MRCA" with AESA radar and AIM-120 capabilities which put them on par with F-35 and older aircraft like Rafale, F-18F Superhornet and F-15E. The FA-50 capability is as good as a Multi Role Combat Aircraft, a bigger and more expensive fighter jet. The RMAF FA-50 has completely changed the equation in the region and will be the most advanced aircraft in region.The biggest problem facing RMAF right now is the insufficient number of fighter aircraft in service. With only 8 F/A 18D, 18 Su 30MKM and 16 BAE Hawk, despite Malaysia having a large airspace. Malaysian main weakness is to fifth generation aircraft as Su-30MKM is superior to F-18F/F-15E.
>>62500152I doubt they will be able to build enough *totally not f35s* and just use j15s until the heat death of the universe.
>>62517383what is that even? a FFBN?
>>62517744>this copy pasta
>>62517998why? they have no problem building the larger J20.
>>62517998They hardly built any of the J-15s. It's obviously meant to be a bridge plane. It's a cool bird, fast as fuck for a modern carrier plane. The J-31/35 is clearly going to be the main carrier plane.As for production, China has no problem with that. They already have hundreds of J-20s. They pump out more than twice the tonnage of the US per year in warships and 100 times more in total tonnage (they almost produce more than the rest of the world combined). Chinese hardware might not be good, but it's ridiculous to claim they can't make it. Just look at their tank fleet or their MLRS. They had more MLRS than Russia and the US combined even before Russia ruined its stockpiles invading Ukraine (missile spam is a major strategy to overcome the US and a lot of their MLRS can be equipped with anti-ship missiles). Even shit like nuclear subs they stay pumping out.Will the shit work? Will the missiles be filled with water (lol)? Maybe, but they will definitely build them.As for their quality, they clearly surpassed Russia on tanks and IFVs as well as AD. AD has been the place where they keep iterating fastest. And they have a huge share of the combat drone market and own most of the commercial market too. That's a place where they might be ahead. Aviation, not so much. Probably better than Russia now, but not to the US, at least in quality. They don't need quality though if they fight in their own littoral and can spam missiles. That's the whole strategy. And you don't need cutting edge tech to project power by bombing thirdies from a carrier.
>>62517998>>62518065They are building J-15B's though, i don't see J-35's getting in production before 2030 desu.Unless some country like Saudi Arabia or Egypt makes a huge order or smt.
>>62517749>mini-MRCAThe term "MRCA" has only two states, true or false. By appending "mini" to it, you have rendered the term meaningless. >AESA radar and AIM-120 capabilities which put them on par with F-35 and older aircraft like Rafale, F-18F Superhornet and F-15E.Except they lack the stealth and sensortech of the F-35, range and versatility of the Rafale, carrier capability of the F-18 and the payload of the F-15.And almost everything else in between. >The FA-50 capability is as good as a Multi Role Combat Aircraft, a bigger and more expensive fighter jet.Categorically false.Compare it to a Rafale F3R which is about the same size and close in cost.Rafale dominates it in payload, range, sensor suite, comms, speed, HIDs, armament selection, engine and frame durability and whatever you can name except initial cost.>The RMAF FA-50 has completely changed the equation in the region and will be the most advanced aircraft in region.F-35, F-18, J-20 and the Rafale fly in this region.
>>62518014Technically it is a 'Guided Missile Cruiser' as a nuclear armed Fleet Flagship. The fact that under all that Juche is the tortured skeleton of a Krivak ressurected by the nautical necromancy of the most sinister sorcerers available to the Nampo shipyard Hellmouth doesn't change the fact that ship classes are by role not size these days.It really is impressive in it's own way, how it was made is facinating. As far as anyone can tell they take wreaked Krivaks, strip them down to the hull then remove the bulkheads and hull plates leaving only the skeleton of the support frame. After they replace/refurbish those they rebuild it plate by plate, piece by piece adding their additions/changes to it which as can be seen are quite extensive. I'd be suprised if even half the beams were left from the origional ship, in many ways it would have been better to make it from scratch. The only thing that makes sense (which i personally believe) is that they identified it as within their shipyard ability to make and did it this way as a learning exercise, in the future will use the experiance to do 100% native designs. Seeing as this is basically how they learn to make anything that the rest of the world doesn't want them to have it seems logical.So think:T-62=late model Chomaho=Songun 214/215=M2020Krivak=This thing=Future Nork missile ship 203X=Mobile Space Fortress Juche 210X
>>62517383>>62518014>>62517383Comparison image:>Can ships experiance body horror?Really curious if it still has the torpedo tubes and sonar that is at least equivalent to the origional, if it does it has a plausable military role (ASW) besides it's primary one time mission. Does that even have any realistic chance of success? It would have to strike first but could it actually infict real damage before being vaporized?
Speaking of J-35, look who showed up on the Liaoning's deck.Idk if it's a real one or mock-up.
>>62518895>CAPTCHA: darn
>>62516597Its just a mig-21 bodykit relax
>>62519009Q-5A is pretty fun on WT, you're basically outrunning everyone because you're one of the few aircraft with afterburners and flares at 9.0 LMAO
>>62499534>>62500344The Fuck 1 has a cockpit ripped straight from a block 52 F16 it's too funny
>>62499396WOULD THE TIGERSHARK HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN THE CHING KUO???
>>62517744Outside of Stealth...> SU-30MKM >>> F35
>>62521555Really? Can we compare radars, IRST, communications, engine durability, frame durability, armaments and other things?
>>62521540Nope. F-20 has a better engine but F-CK-1 was designed with mid-80s technological advancements like CAD and greater understanding in material science . It has larger cockpit to accommodate more avionic equipments, larger radome, better wing profile et cetera
BMP-3's fat cousin.
>>62520382Do they still operate it or not?
>>62523274About as fat as Western IFVs, no?
>>62523865Pretty much, on paper it can take 20mm front due to better armor than its Russian counterpart. The engine is also in the front as well so the infantry on the back doesnt have to climb over the engine to get out.
How important are fighters for a country like Taiwan? I see they're investing in more f-16s until they have 200 odd but will it make that much difference if you can't protect your runways from cruise missiles I feel like they should just invest in a shit load of AA and submarines instead
>>62510623Do these designations even exist? Or were they made up by PLA watchers?
>>62513442>Mig21 toob with Mig23 intakes
>>62524717subs can't protect them from a landing either, the straight is too shallow to safely operate subs
>>62525349https://www.twz.com/chinas-j-10-fighter-spotted-in-new-big-spine-configurationSome say it's called J-10CY as well.
Type 89
>>62527548Also Type 89.
