Russia would have needed at least:1,573,725 troops27,086 artillery pieces1,152 rocket launchers5,556 tanks and self-propelled guns3,721 aircraftIf they realistically wanted their Invasion of Ukraine to succeed within 2 weeks like their initial plans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria
Japanese emperor ordered them to surrender though
>>62509159More like the manpower required for Kiev: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berlin
>>62509159the USSR deliberately sent in a force several times what was necessary to destroy the japanese to not just defeat them, but do so as fast as possibleto ensure a swift end to the war not just by destroying the last Japanese reserve forces but also as a show of force to both the japanese and the allied forcesto show the japanese that further resistance was not possible and to ensure a better position in the post-war, the allies might be more amenable to give the USSR more thought after seeing such a massive operation
>1999>Sends 150k men into Chechnya>They almost fail and it takes months of grinding to finally arrest the situation>2024>Sends 200k men to take Ukraine, a country 40x the size of Chechnya with a decently-equipped standing army (also that 200k is split up across six different fronts)Idiotic plan from the start
>>62509578didn't they need American boats to take one of those surrounding islands?
>>62509159I think the issue wasn't the force size, it was the (lack of) appropriate planning and reasonable expectations. I feel like a larger army might've gotten further on inertia but run out of supplies faster.
>>62509907The two go hand in hand. The force size was inadequate because the expectations were unreasonable. It's not that Russia couldn't have amassed a larger force prior to February 24th, it's that they didn't think the juice would be worth the squeeze when Ukrainian resistance would either just roll over and take it or greet them as liberators anyway.
>>62509159>>62509786Russia=/=The USSR. It's like expecting California or Prussia to have the same capabilities as the entire whole of the US/Germany.
>>62509578>to ensure a swift end to the warYou mean to grab as much land as possible before the inevitable end of the war.
>>62510463>1999>Russia=/=The USSRyou should have deleted post lmao.
>>62510463>Russia=/=The USSRstop this tankie cope. USSR was just as dysfunctional as Russia.
>>62509786Russia saw the US invaded Aghanistan/Iraq with a relatively small army and thought they can do it too. Thing is, for every frontline grunt, there's literal hundreds of support personnel and literal tons of supplies backing the single soldier. Very few countries have this elaborate logistics tail and we haven't even got into the stuff about intel and comms yet.
>>62510463How dare you talk shit about Prussia like that. The memory of that nation should not be sullied by comparison to Russia, similar spellings be damned.
Send in the Norks.
>>62509786I think 200k would have been enough if they had just focused on two specific directions, Zapo in the south and Kharkov in the north. If both cities had been surrounded and taken its likely Ukraine would have sued for peace, kharkov is huge with lots of people and losing it would have been a huge blow.
>>62516833well, russia did take kherson which is a huge city with lots of people and now it's forever russian... oh wait.
>>62516833Zelensky was planning in suing for peace but the US State Department pressured him into fighting. Now he's stuck and he's contemplating Saddam Huessein's career path
>>62509786It probably would have worked in 2014 when Ukraine was nothing more than a bunch of crime bosses and everyone spoke Russian as a second language
>>62516852>tell me youre a vatnigger with delusions of granduer without outright telling me thatDude was calling asking for ammo instead of evac like he was offered by the state department day one you absolute mongoloid. He's also pretty damn secure right now considering how often he updates the media.
>>62516852kys before your betters do it for you, pidor.
>>62516852Imagine how many million ziggers would have died if they'd actually CARED lol
>>62516844Kherson was behind a wide river and difficult to supply, imo its not comparable, if they had managed to take zapo or Kharkov its likely they would have been able to hold on to it. Kharkov in particular is right next to the border so they wouldn't have had too many supply issues.
>>62516844russian waters forever maybe.
>>62516940
>>62509159>dongrubheh heh, heh heh heh heh
>>62516879Stop committing political violence
>>62517013>glavset has been having a field day because one schizoRemember, this will happen to you should you ever go full retard. You will be mocked for your political ideals and everyone who holds them will be mocked by using you as an example.
>>62509159>The substantial difficulties of the campaign in Ukraine, of which the Russian government is becoming increasingly aware, are a wholesome damper for the well-known Russian conceit and overestimation of their own victories. After the promenade into Crimea, ...pic related is Memorandum by an German Official of the Embassy in the Soviet Union. Moscow, January 25, 1940
>>62517045Yeah its kinda wild how russia is fucking up worse than the soviets did in the winter war, but wont be able to do the second half because the ukes have better allies and the russians have to blow daddy kim.
>>62517013no
>>62516940The warm and fuzzy feeling you get knowing your enemies are so inferior they can't capture a strategic objective without a category 5 chimpout that destroys the very thing they wanted
>>62509159In the first place, russia needs a sound plan at the first place.
