ITT we discuss the new Kel Tec 5.7. In addition to that also discuss:>the 5.7 round in general>future price action of the 5.7 due to all the new guns increasing demand for the round and thus incentivizing manufacturers to expand their supply of 5.7>other 5.7 gunsThe only thing holding me back from buying it is that it uses shitty FN mags instead of something good like PSA or S&W 5.7 mags. I'm hoping S&W copies this with their FPC and releases a 5.7 version of it.Also, according to Kel Tec's marketing video they're trying to sell the sub2k 5.7 to law enforcement and anyone who does bodyguard duty.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5hQo2XjHEo
people who do law enforcement can just get MP7s
Look at this lol>https://www.keltecweapons.com/peacekeepers-program/They're really trying to sell to LE and the US Military. How can they have the audacity to do this when their products have such poor QC?
>>62534438You are correct for large law enforcement agencies but poorer ones can't afford that. Not that I believe any LE agency is going to purchase a kel tec product but in theory poorer departments could see potential in something affordable like this.
>>62534453>poorer ones can't afford that.yeah they can lol, MP7s aren't even expensive.
>>62534456I refuse to believe full auto MP7s and it's ammo are inexpensive. You'll have to provide proof. You also can't issue full auto weapons to any cop.
>>62534426They need to put a gay little brace on there and sell it with a 10 inch barrelOf course with a threaded barrel for a suppressor >>62534441They dont have poor QC. Ive sold a ton of Kel-Tecs at my store, never had one come back. Put about 700 rounds through my P32, only one malfunction and it was mag/ammo related. The only real question is, whats cooler: the Ruger in 10MM, or this Lel-Kek in 5.7? I like the KT gun better but i prefer the 10MM caliber to 5.7
>>62534481i've seen them between 1400-2000 bucks.
>>62534426So Kel-Tec will be making more gun models chambered in 5.7 than FN? Neat. I like my R50, it was only $500 too.
>>62534492>whats cooler: the Ruger in 10MM, or this Lel-Kek in 5.7?10mm is kind of a pointless round though ballistically against a human being. It's only benefit over 9mm is penetration, which has no benefit vs human targets. Defensive 9mm loads are on par with or outperform 10mm defensive loads for human targets. By that I mean their expansion and goldilocks penetration is on par or superior to 10mm.Before you get angry at this comment please look at pic related and realize my comment is based on data not based on emotion, so please don't respond with angry emotions respond with your own data or accept my conclusion, thank you.source:>https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
>>62534544That stock is incredibly ugly and stupid looking. You should replace it with any aftermarket stock/brace. For example:
>>62534492>Of course with a threaded barrel for a suppressorYou’re in luck, Kel-Tec threads pretty much every barrel standard except for their shotguns and small carry pistols
if 5.7 gets cheap, and I mean 9x19mm cheap, I'd be glad to get a 5.7 gun, hell maybe even this kel tec thing. I shoot way too often to buy a gun that eats expensive ammunition.
>>62534563>spend half the value of the firearm to replace stock stock with custom stock so it looks cooler.No thanks, the stock is fine. It locks folded so it can be used as a foregrip too.
>>62534628It looks extremely ugly and ruins the aesthetic of the gun. It's fine if you like it though.
>>62534607>if 5.7 gets cheap, and I mean 9x19mm cheapnever gonna happen.
>>62534663some people are just allergic to printing money, I get that.
>>62534426should have been 30SC. a 16" barrel does literally nothing for 5.7.
>>62534688>a 16" barrel does literally nothing for 5.7.It adds 200-300 more FPS. You cannot call that literally nothing.
>>62534694over a 5" or over a 10"?
>>62534453Why wouldn’t they just buy ARs?
>>62534481The other poster is correct the cost for full auto firearms to LE agencies is very cheap compared to their civilian models because there is less paperwork and hurdles you have to get through to sell to LE agencies it also helps that the demand for full auto for LE use is low.
>>62534688>a 16" barrel does literally nothing for 5.7.It helps speed up a round up to 2,550 ft/s with SS195LF ammunition. Any barrel 10.3 inches or longer are great. Anything shorter is awful, the handguns were a bad desicion that NATO forced upon FN
>>62534885>desicionMy bad on misspelling the word "decision.
>>62534426Hasn't 5.7 been proven to be an ineffective round? You need full auto for it to be worthwhile. There's a story about police shooting a guy with 5.7 and he politely asks them to stop shooting him while he's being shot by 5.7.
>>62534628Looks like my old paint ball gun.
>>62534453>>62534456>>62534481>>62534870I've heard HK are fags about replacement parts.
>>62536125>Hasn't 5.7 been proven to be an ineffective round? Only if you also believe 9mm to be an innefective round. The terminal effects are pretty comparable.>You need full auto for it to be worthwhile.Nope, but it doesn't hurt.>There's a story about police shooting a guy with 5.7 and he politely asks them to stop shooting him while he's being shot by 5.7.Story is such obvious bullshit on its face that it's genuinely amazing that people are retarded enough to believe and repeat it. First off, the best origin anyone has been able to place on it is a forum post where a guy is claiming to be telling a story his cop friend told him.Even if we accept that 5.7 is a clownshoes meme caliber that's worse than airsoft BBs, how would the police who were magdumping 5.7 into the perp have been able to hear him say that over the sound of the guns firing? Have you just never fired a gun before? They're pretty loud, anon
>>62534426I can't imagine a single reason to buy this or any other keltec 5.7 gun while the Ruger LC Charger exists desu.
>>62534657>It looks extremely ugly and ruins the aesthetic of the gunSir, it's a KelTec. It was never aesthetic to begin with
>>62534426the ultimate caliber shill repellent is to ask them to post their gun in that caliber. so how about you do that, OP.
>>62536977I said in the OP that I don't own the gun and I never claimed to own any 5.7 gun. Are you retarded?
>>62536908> it's a KelTec. It was never aesthetic to begin withtake that back
>>62537308>posts the ugly version of kel tec's coolest looking gun>has an ugly as fuck scope on it as wellBro what are you doing.
>>62534426Hey this is pretty neat.
>>625344564.6 sucks compared to 5.7
I really see no reason to get any pistol caliber that isnt 9mm. I already have a stockpile, its good, and its cheaper to refill. Plus it feeds a few pistols I have and my PCC.