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Pastebin https://rentry.org/sa6c4mSummary>>62567685Commentaryhttps://files.catbox.moe/2r9hlo.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/ezsc1j.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/044awo.mp3
good morning
>>62641410Happy FF>>62641418Happy FF
buying 22 magnum
>Oh man! Thanksgiving is around the corner and that means another Paul Harrell...
>>62641372Individual barrels of the same brand and construction type are going to fail with massive fluctuations in round counts. You'd need to melt dozens of barrels of the same brand and type to get usable data just for that particular barrel. Luckily for us, its been done and the answer is CL CHF.
>another Paul Harrell...
>>62641425Happy F. >:-/
>Paul?
>>62641190I hate commo guys. They were always black dudes for some reason and always pissed about being assigned to combat companies (which were 90% white, remainder puerto rican), and I had 2 in a row go awol to get out of a deployment that ended up being cancelled anyway
What is the best gas-mitigating charging handle in 2024? I have a suppressor now and the gas isn't terrible or anything with an old BCM gunfighter CH but I still have a 'standard' charging handle in my other upper, and so I need to gunsoom.
>>62641456Normal Raptor with RTV mod and a nice inspec upper.
>>62641422Hey
>>62641456Armageddon GMS 15 EVO or silencerco if you want to buy one. You can also just RTV mod your existing one.
>>62641464I always heard the raptor was shit for rtv.
>>62641456side charger
>>62641476From who?
>>62641485Anon A. Anonderson. Son of Anonymouse T. Anonderson Esq.
>>62641442He needs his attention. getting his dick sucked on fagcord wasn't enough so now he needs to make a thread to get as many (You)s as possible.
>>62641489Wow. Doesn't sound like a man who's credentials are to be questioned. Dr. "Trip" T. Tripcovich has surely met his match.
>>62641466You have to stop
>>62641491There is exactly 1 (one) anon who posts here in my discord for BattleTech and indie dev space games (who it is might surprise you).
>>62641466I hope you have a terrible day fuck you
>>62641496no u
>>62641498>it’s Hop
>>62641499sad
>>62641504Hop leaves me on read on Instagram then gets on here to tell me to bother A2 about it instead.
seriously, how is this "Anonymous" fag still spamming every single thread? How is he not banned?
>>62641410saw my first /arg/ autist in the wild. he ranted at some guy for 30 minutes straight about esoteric noveske and larue beef. Then something about barrel lengths and 6.5 grendel?I was just amazed he wasn't dressed like a woman desu
>>62641534Yeah most “gun guys” need a hobby
>>62641565oh let me guess, you're a "car guy" too?
I wanna get a can but they're so expensive
>>62641580They really don't make enough of a difference
>>62641580They're ok
Dissipator upper just showed up. That bad boi is going to get rattle canned
>>62641572lol yeah dude and all other traditionally masculine hobbies: power lifting, rooting for my local sports team, brewing my own beer, cooking meth…real diversified man of culture over here Sonny.
>>62641593Maybe actually test it out first
>>62641432>the answer is CL CHFGlad we agree
>Friday wew!
>>62641615duh I'm not going to paint it right now, you silly goose
/k/ I need your help. About to get a PSA classic 11.5. What is the best way to mount a light? Intent for the build is to throw a carry handle, socom brake, RC2, and light on it. You can try bullying me out of buying this set up but I'll warn you that im autistic and already fixated on it
>>62641641Paint it right now.
>>62641645Why not get an 11.5" carry handle upper?
>>62641410Are armalites any good? I saw a few used ones. What's their MOA compared to others? The other i'm mainly looking at are Schmeissers
>>62641645just buy an H&R 733 upper and get a barrel clamp mount for the light? By all means though, build something stupid instead
>>62641496Why? Am i missing smth?
>>62641615he doesn't need it to work, it just has to look cool
>>62641672People with guns make him insecure.
>>62641479>It's by online reservation only, Friday-Sundayhttps://live-general-store.pantheonsite.io/rifle-pistol-product-categories/>But I recommend visiting the steel ranges at Saddleback Mountain or Box Canyon instead because it's free and less likely to be packed as Ben Avery on weekendsThanks for the info anon. I mainly shoot at SGC in the hot months and the main range at BA in the winter, I haven't been out to either of those other places. Will check them out. The only innadesert spots I know have been under fire restriction forever, so my own AR500 target is useless. Have you done any 2gun/3gun in the Phoenix area? I used to when I lived in Tucson but haven't shot any matches up here. >>62641464>Normal Raptor with RTV mod and a nice inspec upper.Hmmm.>>62641470>Armageddon GMS 15 EVOThis looks neat. Gonna RTV mod my BCM one but I don't like having to swap parts between uppers when switching them out so I'll probably pick up one of these.>>62641480That's my third upper.>>62641498>BattleTech and indie dev space game discordUhhhh you're not in SIRA, there can only be one
>>62641672He tries to avatarpost but he's not interesting enough and his pictures are too shitty and low effort
>>62641593Dissys are only cool with a long af suppressor on them.
>>62641654>>62641668carry handle uppers were more expensive. what's the real benefit of it being built in?
>>62641580They're not a 'total game changer' but they are nice, cool, and a better use of $1000 then another mid rifle or upper. Get one after your rifle is otherwise complete with a good optic and a few thousand rounds of ammo.
>>62641697who are some of the good avatar posters?
>>62641703>what's the real benefit of it being built in?Doesn't come loose. Thumbscrews are big gay.
>>62641699Surefire rc2 is 899 on primary arms right now
>>62641697He's better than the Karen Carpenter faggot.
>>62641749I like kc but he really needs to read "no more mr nice guy" by robert glover
>>62641736Honestly none>>62641749Idk. KC anon doesn't avatarpost as bad and at least takes new pictures. Still a fag though
>>62641753https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TeDtp6k790
>>62641694No problem, anon, I don't blame you for shooting indoors during the triple digit months>under fire restriction forever, so my own AR500 target is uselessYeah, that's the worst part about shooting in AZ. Even Saddleback Mountain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTYT7csQHcw was closed off before September in spite of being a designated shooting location>2gun/3gun in the Phoenix area?I haven't to be honest, wasn't even aware of a compe shooting scene outside of Rio Salado>used to when I lived in TucsonYou've met Karl and Ian? I wonder how they are in person
>>62641806>it's too hot, you might catch all this dirt on fireLol.
>>62641694There can't be too much BattleTech quite frankly.
>>62641816If I shoot over that berm, will you die?
>>62641832It would be very painful.
>>62641832how much you wanna make a bet i could throw a green tip over them mountains?
>>62641806>You've met Karl and Ian? I wonder how they are in personNever met Carl, just Ian. He used to come into the shop I worked at down there as well. Just a normal gun nerd really. It was a pretty comfy competitive scene down there. Small, casual, friendly. Have been meaning to get into it again because it's better training for the ammo than just blasting at the range imo.>>62641816You joke but it's real. One of the best off-road and shooting areas burned earlier this year and it's very sad - my favorite casual weekend motorcycle ride route goes right through there and it's looking pretty rough right now.>>62641824Our megamek campaign is uh, sleeping, and we're all waiting on indie space game updates, so it's been SPT-FIKA and other shit recently. I need to prep another megamek session.
>>62641891holy GUACAMOLE
>>62641891KAC SR-15
>>62641872Mech 5 Mercs is around the corner, and I'm pretty into Starfighter: Infinity right now. Maybe paths will cross down the line.
Gq is dead. Are baofang still ok for emergencies? I also need a 5516 adapter.
>>62641872What happened to burn it down? The range in that video looks like it should have enough distance between any sparks that could be going off with the steel plates and the vegetation around.
>>62641891kys
>>62641699I'm not going to bother putting a suppressor on a $120 PSA lower with a $300 anderson upper on it
>>62641445:(
>>62641916>Mech 5 Mercs is around the cornerDare you answer my batchall?>>62641926I don't know if there was ever a clear verdict on how it started, but people out here are retarded. It's unlikely it was started by some normal target shooting, but I would be 0% surprised if it was started by someone shooting tannerite or firing tracers into the brush. It's chaos out here - not long ago a woman died while sitting in her SUV because some retard shot over a berm.>>62641954Well then it will always be lame. Sorry anon.
>>62641921no you need a $5000 digital encrypted radio on truncated system or ngmi
>>62641891look at this fag tourist
>>62641967You can't bid enough to deal with my Stalker petridish baby.
>>62641970That’s not what I’m asking. I heard the baofangs got locked down not sure if they’re good anymore. Also not sure which model to buy or which adapter for my peltor ptt m5516.
>>62642028Don't buy a ptt before the radio and it's probably a waste to spend that much on a ptt then buy a $30 radio for it.
>>62642021
>>62642017If god didnt want me to take dicks why is my gspot in my ass?
>>62641891Why cant futas be real
>>62642041It came with my comtacs on eBay it was free. I got the comtac v single lead with boom mic, gel cups and the m5516 ptt for 450. I can’t really afford a good radio right now just looking for something I can use if there’s a natural disaster or worse. Shill me something better for less than 200
>>62641891Me and bunni for the first time
>>62642109Damn that's a sweet deal. You're going to need some sort of adapter. I can't help you mine uses the 3.5mm plug.
>>62641749Rude>>62641753Wtf I'm not a nice guy. I got half way through a different book one of you recommended and it was no good
>>62642189what book?
>>62641668decided to go this route. Thanks Anon.
>>62642028even if they were locked down it's still great bang for the buck.
>>62642189>I'm not a nice guyhe covers this in the book. it's available in audiobook form for free on a lot of platforms
>>62642200"Feeling Good" by David Burns>>62642262I'll consider it
I don't know shit from fuck but I will be glad to answer any ar15 related questions
>>62642384What is the meaning of AR-15 life?
>>62642069as a test to quickly identify people like you and Don Lemon vs people who would have never known.
Was thinking about getting a Brn-4 upper to replace my MocK18 anybody got any trigger time?
>>62641872Figures, Ian always did seem like the chill one>better training for the ammo than just blasting at the rangeThat's for sure, but reloading outside of cover is a bad habit>>62641967>not long ago a woman diedWhoa, WTF, which range did that happen at? Years ago, the public land near Miller Road was shut down for the exact same reason
>>62642244Going to buy a yaesu instead
>>62641921>cheap/disposable >dual/tri band >possible to interface with many analog band radios like marine, frs, gmrs, murs, receive noaa, some old school police bands, some local ambulance/fire stations, ham repeaters in emergencies >has scanning featureBut >not waterproof>not durable >time consuming to program manually (most noobs don't buy the programming cable) >scanning is super slow >transceiver is low quality (hams will instantly recognize your equipment)>you will replace the antenna Really depends on exactly what you are doing with it. If you just need to grab two radios for line of sight comms with another team then go for it. If you are expecting much else, don't. For me it's a fun toy that I'm using to learn and experiment so I know better what to buy when I go digital which is a huge step up.
>>62642189>Wtf I'm not a nice guy. I got half way through a different book one of you recommended and it was no goodYou are a dick and it's no wonder you are a friendless virgin who will die alone.
>>62641753What really helped me was 3 percent man. I know the title is kinda gay but after reading it twice I got with my gf of 10 months
>>62642589Oh
>>62642574Thermal lenses are attractive, selling my RH25 soon. UTMx is a wonderful thing. Either getting a rattler or super yoter for credo 2-10 use on the other gun
will SHTF be like Tarkov?
>>62642677It wasn't funny when you asked last week
>>62642677you're not funny, your gun sucks, you don't have NODs
Anybody else ever have a scope where the reticle was out of focus after a shot? Like I'll zoom out and back in and it'll be crystal clear, but shoot again it'll be fuzzy
>>62642698Ok nvm it just died and looks like somebody wiped Vaseline on the lens at full magnification
>>62642713Subscribed. What scope?
>>62642677Not the real DManon.
>>62642717Athlon Helos 2-12. Maybe 200 rounds of 5.56 and 100 rounds of 350 Legend
>>62642734>Athlon Helos 2-12. Maybe 200 rounds of 5.56 and 100 rounds of 350 LegendCurious about your RMA turn-around time
>>62642734At 7x magnification it's crystal clear, the rest of the range it's totally unusable
>>62641437as long as m16a2 clones exist, his spirit will never leave us
>>62642756So why the fuck is this thing shilled so much?
>>62642766It's cheap and the glass seems ok. Could just be a freak failure, I haven't really heard of them breaking
>>62641921They sort of suck but if youre oging to grab one, go for a UV9R or similar beefed up one vs ye olde uv5r or similar
>>62642677>he got bullied into buying qdc because he’s an idiot and bought an sb2>civvy powered laser, doesn’t own nods lol, lmao even
>>62642734>>62642742>>62642756>New 2-12 helos owner gonna sight it in this weekendRIP, maybe I should've sprung for that optika6. That's definitely toast, Fwiw I hear their warranty department is really good. Curious to hear if your replacement fucks up too
>>62642820I think I am going with a yaesu ft-4xr but not sure yet if the disco ptt is compatible
>>62642766Nobody makes a 2-10ish that's good and has decent features, let alone one in the sub Gucci glass category. It's got practically zero competition for a rather popular niche. That sort of scope works very well for anything farther than across the room distances out to as far as you'd want to use 5.56. Shame really, Ive only heard of a few mechanical failures though desu
>>62642847>yaesu ft-4xrMassively autistic of you, probably do not redeem.Go UV9R so you can operate slightly out of band
>>62642861trust fund kick in yet?
>>62642847>>62641921Also throw away 5516 and just go with a U94 clone. The 5516 is so fucking massive
>>62642870I've met some trust fund guys, they didn't own anything nice. Piss it all away too
Definitely broken. Something rattles inside when you shake it. Guess I'll fill out the warranty shit tomorrow.
>>62642861Living in a world where you have to be sure to buy *name brand* chink shit is wild.
>>62642985Yaesu is more expensive though. Anon just doesn't want to seem like a poorfag.
>>62642756Mine is having issues with the zero stop and I’ve been too lazy to send it in.>>62642766Because it’s $500 and most of them don’t seem to have issues.The glass, reticle, and feature are pretty good.If I wanted something “duty grade” I’d shell out for a NF 4-16 with the low profile turrets since the other 2-10s on the market aren’t great and I doubt NF is going to make one since they already have the 1-8 and the 2.5 - 20
>>62643002I did not know this. I have the 9R personally which at the time was silly, but I guess aged well.
>>62642978where AR
>>62642978>buying cheap shitty opticsAt least they have a warranty, but this why there are only a handful of optic brands.Good luck anon, sorry to hear it broke on you. Not fun.
>>62643057
>>62643057 American Rifle
>>62643062But they're A2 approved
>>62643070They sure the fuck aren't.
>>62643084>he doesn't have the list of A2 approved gear memorized bruh why are you here
>>62643084Pretty sure they are with the expectation that they’re still chinkshit and not rated for le duty use
>>62643084Erm...
>>62643070>>62643103Then this is definitive proof that A2 approved is not a trustworthy benchmark, as if that should really need to be restated.
Anyone seen ash recently?
>>62643103dunning-kruger
>>62643118not since the hurricane got caught in his orbit
If you get memed into buying an Athlon instead of a Leupold you deserve it honestly.A $600 Leupold 3-9 is infinitely more trustworthy than chinkshit meme scope. Don't give me fucking bullet points of features you queers, you should have bought a VX-R Patrol 3-9 instead or whatever their current equivalent is.
>>62643118He said he's going to Japan
>>62643118Apparently he is in Japan.
>>62643136I only buy what A2 has approved. His approval means everything.
Holy fucking shit lmao VX-3HD/Mark 3HD MSRP is like the same as Athlon. If you unironically bought an Athlon instead of something like a Mark 3HD you're stupid and it shows how narrow A2s range of acceptable advice really is. Insane.
>>62643136no one here owns guns, you're yelling into the void
>>62643162i almost bought an upper today though
>>62643159380 bucks?
>>62643066Beautiful gun anon
>>62642978lol ur gonna RMA an optic because it can't handle recoil? just throw that shit in the trash
>>62643103Old man is slipping. Next thing you know vortex will be on the list.
>>62643159Idk, Leupold reticle isn't what I wanted and I paid $400 for the Athlon
>>62643067you got me there
>>62643159it's really not that exciting anon go touch grass
>>62643118who gives a shit?
>>62643178Not far off.>>62643194You fell for a meme reticle and now have a nonfunctional scope. If you bought this you'd still have a usable rifle. On sale the difference in price would be negligible.Absolutely scammed by the perfidious chink, who made many promises and gave you garbage.
>>62642234we got another one folks
>>62643197Fuck off retard. Let this be a lesson to you all about trusting tripfags and sinoids.This scope on sale is better in every conceivable way than your instashill garbage.
>>62643206>3-9>SFP
>>62643214>broken scopeYeah really getting great use out of that FFP 2-12 you're right great buy.
Yeah the athlon sucks even when it doesn't physically break
>>62643206Yeah. It happens>>62643187Thanks friend but it's really nothing special. Just a Block II upper that's now missing a scope
>>62643214Damn I didn't even notice it was SFP, gross
>>62643238Idiot, SFP is only an issue for spreadsheet warriors. At low mag you're shooting point-blank, no holdovers required. At range where you actually need it, you're at max mag. 9-12 isn't so high you need to dial it back. Besides, isn't that what you wanted exposed turrets for? To dial it in?Only an actual mouth breathing retard can't function without FFP.
>>62643213Reticle sucks Baseline 4x instead of 2x Smaller objective Second focal plane >>62643220>one person has an issue >it’s over Yeah should have bought your recommendation of a more expensive worse optic that you’ve never used instead.
>>62643252Reticle is 100% functional. If you think you need more you need to shoot more.A 2x you'll literally never use.Better glass and coatings will make more of the objective anyway.SFP I already addressed.Go ahead though keep buying chink trash and convincing yourself it was a good decision even after it leaves you with an unusable rifle. NGMI.
>>62642978I wonder if this is why it was grouping like shit
>>62643206SFP and no illumination
>>62643199I have night vision questions for him.
>>62643259>rifle becomes unusable if the optic goes in for warrantyIntredasting >the scope with a worse feature set isn’t the problem you arePeak fudd logic >muh chinkshitJust like whatever computer or phone you’re typing on
>>62643268Nah that was probably me. It was doing ok today right when it broke
>>62643268Of course it is hahaha the fucking glue came undone and there was a lens rattling around inside.>>62643270I would rather have this low-mid range Leupold than a lifetime supply of chink garbage with every stupid bullet point you can fit in a shillpost.When will you retards learn.
>>62643274>asking the guy who doesn’t leave his moms basement about night vision Lmao how new r u
>>62643246this is true, sfp vs ffp isn't even an issue for real pipecloggers>>62643213lol why are you screeching cuz i told you to go outside? or did someone hide your crayons>>62643259idk anon it sounds like you're arguing with anons randomly at this point, no one is saying buy an athlon optic. the fact someone posted that a2 screencap got you to seethe is hilarious hto
>>62643274trip on, Ash. you gonna buy some pussy in Japan or just take pictures of inactive weapons you're going to spam /arg/ with?>>62643285see above
>>62643285Oh Ive seen him post outside night vision pics he must steal them then
>>62643281No one gives a shit what you think. Keep seething
>>62643274ask him about ozempic and secret menu items at drive throughs, he doesn't know shit about nods
>>62643308Well can you help me?
>>62643310Go to NVG retard
>>62643299Ash you never shoot with your nods, shut the fuck up lol. how was your flight to nippon tho?
>>62643275>rifle becomes unusable if the optic goes in for warrantyJust gonna aim by vibes huh? Why did you even need an optic in the first place?>Worse feature set.Muh 'features', you're not buying a surround sound receiver dipshit. Do you buy the fridge with a touchscreen too?>like whatever computer or phone you’re typing onYou mean the disposable, planned obsolescence garbage that will be in a landfill in five years? Great argument.>>62643290>no one is saying buy an athlon opticAnons in this very thread are still unwilling to admit buying Athlon is a terrible decision, and with the worst imaginable reasoning.>>62643304Keep financing Changs tuition in exchange for actual garbage because it filled more lines on your side-by-side comparison chart.
>>62643312Why can't you help me?
>>62643281Honestly not totally against buying one of these for this 350 Legend rifle. Not like I'll put it on anything else
>>62643310maybe idk>>62643320never said i can't, im just not f5ing the page like a monkey on amphetamines>>62643315cheap scopes like that are great on .22's, but go off queen. i have a mark 4 mr/t on my .22 personally but to each their own. if anon puts a 300 or 400 dollar scope on a .308 and is surprised they break it, idk what to tell them
Athlons website is a textbook example of how to market a low quality, feature heavy brand created exclusively to part uninformed buyers from their money. Looks good on paper, absolute shit in reality, probably doesn't matter because 99% of the buyers are putting them on PSA ARs they'll never shoot.
>>62643315>just gonna aim by vibesSo your only rifle is an AR with a 3-9 SFP fudd scope?No one is putting an Athlon on their DWOT LARP rifle. It’s just a way to start shooting out further and learning how to use the features that are also going to be found on the premium scopes that a person will eventually graduate to once they can justify spending $2k on a NF 4-16.Dying on the hill of a 3-9 SFP scope being king is so bizarrely retarded.
>>62643354just like Arrowhead lol>>62643359that's clearly not what anon is claiming, athlon is a bad optic for a .308 dude. if you put it on anything more than a .22 you're wasting your own money
>>62643359>this copeDo you always do this much retroactive justification your terrible purchases?>it's.. It's like a training scope ok! It uh...simulates a good scope like I'm totally gonna buy for real!
>>62643369>athlon is a bad optic for a .308 dudeWasn't even .308 that killed it, was 350 Legend
>>62643351>i have a mark 4 mr/t on my .22 personallyThat's nice anon, maybe you actually understand the value in buying well made optics. A good optic will outlast the barrel of the rifle you're putting it on. It makes way more sense to put an expensive optic on a cheap rifle than a cheap optic on anything. The optic is the highest return on investment component of your rifle, period.
>>62643354yeah, I just dont trust chink optics. Would never consider one. Even brands with cheap models like burris use philipino glass.
>>62643371aren't you the dude with the alien hands>>62643386kinda, yeah, i had a sig sauer scope on my mk12 for over a year i never had issues with but that's a pinoy scope. could hit 800m with it all day long, great reticle and clarity for 600 bucks. so you're not entirely right either.
>>62643136I have a $2000 Athlon>works on my machineJust like PA and vortex, they make a Chinese/Philippines and Japanese lineChinese scopes are universally bad. The only stand out are the PA micro prisms
>>62643351I had a $100 bushnell on my .300 magnum and it never broke. Maybe athlon is just shit?
I should’ve bought a Glock
>>62643376still thats way too much cartridge for a poorfag scope. rma the scope and slap it on a .22, case closed imo>>62643414it is extremely likely. also what the fuck seriously?? that's insane
>>62643214SFP is actually kind of nice for LPVOs since you can still run it like an occluded red dot.
>>62643320>>62643310>>62643274Bye Ash, hope the girls in Japan are cute
>>62643423I was a poorfag. You know how we do.
>>62643437no i mean that's incredible, you should email bushnell lmao
>>62643423>way too much cartridgeApparently. I guess it'll probably survive fine with 5.56 again after it's warrantied
Holy shit. After reading a few of the posts in here from the beginning. I think gun guys are more obnoxious and pompous than car guys. I didn't think that was possible.
>>62643438I sold it with the rifle ages ago. Hopefully someone is enjoying it.
>>62643456wait until you find out the posters you consider obnoxious are also pompous car guys
>>62643421had the same sprue shit on one I bought a few months back. I just chiseled it off and hit it with a file. But yeah its garbo QC over at smith.
>>62643369Didn’t realize I had to explicitly state that I’m using an Athlon 2-12 on an ar15 in ARG>>62643371>it’s like a training scope Yeah. I’m not spending $2,000 on a NF 4-16 as my first scope.$500 is a lot easier to justify if I end up not using it often.
>>62643468Yeah it just makes me worry about the rest of the gun but I’m sure it’s fine
>>62643478oh, well your picture >>62642978 was a tad misleading for obvious reasons. didn't realize you're shooting 350 legend out of an AR, sounds based. picrel is my old $600 sig sauer tango 4 on my mk12 before i found my clone optic, worked great
>>62643487That isn’t me
>>62643480should have bought a 1911, son. none of that gimmicky plastic crap.
>>62643493lol 2 anons with athlons... more like athlonymous
>>62643480I mean look it over top to bottom. The inside of the channel that the striker safety runs in was kind of rough on mine, but I just dry fired a lot and it smoothed out fine. I like the M&P series quite a bit, the new triggers are great, but the QC on seemingly all smith and wesson products is bad. Guns like yours should not be making it our the door.
>>62643412>I have a $2000 AthlonOoooooof. Imagine if you had spent that $2k on an actually good scope from a reputable brand.>>62643478>$500 is a lot easier to justify if I end up not using it often.The you'd still be better off spending the $500 on something that won't break under regular use, even if that means giving up '""features"'
>>62643519Had better glass than the more expensive vortex at the timeStill works great +6yrs
>>62643519NTA but Anon, I'm sorry you can't read lmao
>>62643507Meh it looks fine. No machine marks or burs. Functions fine. I’ll try to send it back to smith and make them give me free shit for the hassle.
>>62643536>and make them give me free shit for the hassle.They won't
>>62643536https://www.lowes.com/collections/LENOX-Carbide-Grit-3-4-in-Utility-Razor-Blade-50-Pack-3-Blade-Retractable-Utility-Knife-with-On-Tool-Blade-Storage/GR_6403
>>62643536>I’ll try to send it back to smith and make them give me free shit for the hassle.Who tf do these dudes think they are?
>>62643535Who made your nods?
>>62643545I have the kobalt one. I’ll try it tomorrow.
>>62643556prob some guy in his basement
>>62643206Aww naw
>>62643213Mildot. Muh grampas 30 06 huntin scoperino
>>62643246Or he could have the little Christmas tree thing y and not have to fiddle fuck with shit so much
>>62643274There's an entire night vision general that he was never really a part of you dipshit
>>62643213Yo why would I get a scope pricier than my AR when Primary Arms sells some cheap as fuck 4-16x FFP?
>>62643325Could work on a 350 legend rifle where you're shooting a totally different laserbeam hunting round where you do t really need to do shit because it is just a gay ass hunting scope. For an ar muh wind ages and shit yeah now. Dude is praying he can always see splash from his rounds or something lmao
>>62643584But he was the janny tranny for some shitty reddit nvg discord.
>>62643354Funy because c_does has touched and shot with more optics than you've probably ever heard of and it's like his go to budget scope. Christmas video for the win. Cope and seethe
>>626433695.56 is technically 22 soo...
>>62643601Can you please stfu about fucking ash and fucking discord you fucking faggot?
>>62643616Which is great since the 22lr BCG kits let you practice for dirt cheap.
>>62643595These shitters have a 1" tube instead of 30mm so I'd have to buy rings again. Annoying
>>62643501> sig tango 4 ~ athlonWdhmbt
>>62642446Not a fan of baby rifles (sub 14.5") but this one is kinda based.
ARs are fun to shoot.
>>62643635scroll up and read a little more, you almost got it
>>62643656Why is his 7.5 good and mines a piece of shit?
>>62643666They're ok, satan
>>62643671its 10.5 my guy
>>62643666Disgusting
>>62643666Welcome to arg your scope sucks get a leupold 3x9 goodbye
>>62643694post ar anon u know the rules
>>62643690Oh.
>>62643701Nah I’m good
>>62643701NTA but Ill post mine but its 7.5 inches long. Is that okay?
>>62643697But this was a free hand-me-down scope. The glass kinda sucks but it's free and helps shoot sub-moa groups at 200 yards. It also doesn't have a starbursting dot so even my shitty eyes can use it.>>62643694Haters gonna hate.
>>62643723oh well that's too bad was hoping you'd participate in the banter>>62643732this is /arg/ where spergs who don't own guns or shoot talk about owning guns and shooting
>>62643732>submoa groups>with a psa freedom 15 and magpul clamshellYeah that never happened. Go be poor and a compulsive liar somewhere else.
>>62643771You suck dick if you think that's impossible. Shitter.
>>62643771I didn't say it shoots sub-moa groups with all ammo, but the rifle does like the IMI 55 grain Jewry bullets enough to shoot sub-moa from a bench rest when sighting it in at the range. That being said, the rifle hates 77 grain bullets and will usually fling those to a hideous god knows what moa flyer group.
>>62643806You are not fucking shooting submoa groups at 200 yards with a non free floated psa barrel and m193. You are a compulsive liar.
>>62643779Ok post your sub MOA shitrod groups then
This guy is savage
>>62643666that magazine costs more than your lower.
>>62643829>safe-racism
>>62643817>>62643812NTA but post a rifle
>>62643812I can't shoot sub-MOA groups, but this thing does let my rifle shoot sub-MOA.
>>62643847>>62641466Ok? Post your sub MOA groups with a PSA
>>62643817>>62643812Wait I may have mis-understood the discussion.
My cat is going to be okay. She almost died.
>>62643868>>62643874: /
>>62643900Damn I was hoping you were gone for months again
>>62643900what was it?
>>62643924it's like a dog but smaller and you can't train it and it has parasites in its shit
>>62643900both of mine got eaten by a mountain lion idgaf
>>62643900Hopefully you’re next
>>62643900Oh my godddddd cute. Please tell me she will live a good life.
Tomorrow, I'm going to win the AR-15 cuteness contest again.
Getting this for XCRAnon for his switch so he stops throwing it at his GF and plays games on it.
>>62644113Back to the kitchen, wench
>>62643924>>62643994I think she's going to be OK. The vet isn't 100% sure, but she was shitting bloody water and not eating for 3 days. She would just lay on her side and barely breathe. She's getting daily meds but she's actually playing and eating and everything now. The vet said it's likely inflammatory bowel disease that was made acute after a spaying. Her organs were all swollen and her eyes were yellow. It was bad. I spent so much money and took so much time off work to take care of her. She lost a pound and a half in a week.
>>62644167You're a good person anon. Little baby giiirrrrrl. Get better!
Need handguard recs please
>>62644167Glad to hear she's doing better
>>62644172Thank you ash
>>62644195colt monolithicLmt monolithicgeissele mk8larue SATvltor CASV
Will chairs consoom?
>>62644167Well part of your problem is the cat is sitting on vertical surfaces
>>62644227
>>62644224>$699nah
>>62644218That wasnt me.
>>62644224What the fuck is this? Where's the paddle release? Where's the little VP9 wings? Where the fuck is my SFP9CC???
>>62644260Did you take your guns to Japan?>>62644224That looks like my g3c KEK
>>62644280that fat faggot is not in japan. he's a pathological liar. how new are you?
>>62641410Where to get FP PEQ15?
>>62644347Tacswap but they’re kinda shitty
>>62644347>property of united nationsand I thought the property of us gov stamps were cringe
>>62643911>>62643986DMT anon is fun, stop being gay. He dumped the Latinx so he's good 2 go desu
>>62644347this lower is neat and aesthetically appealing with the exception of the kanji for the safe/semi/auto symbols. Such a misstep, sucks ass because of that. Shoulda just used english or pictograms
>>62644390
>>62644280>Did you take your guns to Japan?You can't....
>>62644224Is there a betting pool
>>62644347you don't, they are all beat to shit and barely hanging on by a thread, only alt. is somo chink shit or invisiblesight
>>62644516What you can still get new peqs but they are $2000+ and you can get a Raid XE FP for not much more.
>>62644516terrible advice
>>62644516there are brand new full kit new DOM FP PEQ 15s on FB marketplace like every single day.
>>62643136I've had the VX-R Patrol 3-9x and the reticle is so fucking thick the thing was basically useless. Nice bright dot though, but what does that matter on a 3-9x. Leupold scopes suffer terribly from outdated poor performing reticles. Unironically the VX-R Patrol 3-9x Mil reticle I had covered the entire man sized silhouette target at idk, 550m, to the point that your POA precision was trash. >>62643359Unironically the two scopes I was considering for my recent 14.5" SPR build was the $450 Athlon 2-12 and the $2k NX8 2.5-20. I ended up getting the NX8, but the Athlon would have been interesting and inexpensive at least.>>62644347Aesthetic.
>>62644636do you still have the lt150? its rare now
>>62644691Literally one on eBay for $150
is the wilcox raptar approved?
>>62644716and 2 dozen people are watching it
>>62644815Ok buy it. It's buy now not bid.
>>62644816I like to watch
>>62644777You don't have 10k to spend on a high-end peripheral that's meant for snipers shooting 2k meter shots.
>>62644838Ok Ash
I was gonna ask A2 if he's shot out barrels and actually crunched some quantifiable data on HOW much things like CHF or barrel contour or CL matter, like how much longer will a CHF CL last than a CL, and a CL from a melonite, and a melonite from a SS barrel. He always talks about shooting out suppressors and has implied he has shot out barrels by stating he has a pile of used ones or something, he talks about his ridiculous round counts more than even Garand Thumb. It's cool I just wish he used all that data for something and published it, would be immensely more helpful than his dudetrustmebro sermons every weekday from 8-5 on arg responding to specific comments or questions. Not efficacious for his ostensible goals
>>62645056I've discussed the with him before and the simple answer is that all the barrels he's shot out are CHF/CL and he just doesn't have hard days on nitrided barrels as a result.No one really has this data because of the ridiculous round counts it takes to collect said data.This is very much anecdotal but he has gotten 50k on a scar 16 barrel and that is backed up by FNs preventive maintenance schedule.On the flip side I know people that have shot out nitrided barrels at 7k.Be the change you want to see in the world. Maybe start collecting said data and compiling it.
What reticle do I want for my credo?
>>62645162I am but it's slow. And I hate you all
>>62645204Good job, anon. I've been keeping close tabs on my barrels. I'll have some data for you in about 20 years when I burn out my SCAR 16.
>>62644923Would it be an appropriate application for night use for a 14.5mm anti-materiel rifle
>>62644392What's fun about him?
>>62645178Mrad tree
>>62645056Search the archives he has posted borescopes
>>626451781x6 or 8?
>>626459302-10
>>62645056A2 doesn't have quantifiable days or crunch numbers, he just has anecdotal experience. It's a lot of work to actually properly record data like that
>>62646197Well he should do it for me. For free.
>>62645056I believe that one of the best bodies of evidence for the benefit of CHF CL barrels over nitride actually comes from that machine gun rental range in Nevada, Battlefield Las Vegas or w.e it is called. They had a bunch of WASR AKs with Romanian CHF CL barrels that they post sample converted as well as random US nitride barreled AR upper that they put on top of M16 lowers and IIRC the rough findings were that the AKs would go 60k, 90k, 120k rounds before keyholing while the nitride AR uppers would do 10k, 15k, maybe 20k tops. >>62646197>>62645056I believe that he shot out a BCM BFH CHF CL 11.5" barrel. It wasn't completely dead, or maybe it was, but I know at the VERY least it was on the way out and had 20k-30k rounds on it. A lot of suppressor use, hard use, full auto etc. I think that it is pretty reasonable to expect a non CHF CL barrel to do worse, which is why I personally consider the UPPER limit of barrel life for a non CL barrel for a relatively tame firing schedule to be that 20k-30k mark, and if you're taking it to carbine courses or running it hard or running a suppressor, then I personally believe that number to be closer to 10k-15k.
>>62646267Army studies found the difference to be marginal when both are CL
>>62646312Yeah I personally have begun to put less stock in CHF than I do in CL. CL is the priority for sure IMO. I think that a lot of the preference for CHF was just by association because CHF barrels were more often than not CL also, so it wasn't clear which aspect of the barrel was responsible for the increased durability. I'm hoping to do a Mk18 Mod 1 soonish and use a Criterion CORE chrome lined barrel.
>>62646557According to the SOLGW dudes when you get barrels of the same base material (ordnance grade 4150) the difference between CL and Nitriding even begins to be splitting hairs. Someone else in the thread mentioned it but in most cases a barrel can fluctuate 30% in terms of lifespan. Now an educated guess would say that the fluctuating can probably be explained by difference in firing schedule, or even bullet jackets or even the temperature generated by one powder burn versus another. But very few people are in the business of buying dozens of 5.56 barrels of varying construction method and shooting them until the groups with good match ammo open up two twice the original size or whatever arbitrary standard has been set after thousands of rounds. The good news for a civilian shooter is that if your 1.5 MOA barrel new opens up to 4 MOA after ten thousand rounds, the chances of needed it beyond 50 yards are so miniscule that you have time to figure it out. Or if you have enough silver shekels to shoot out a barrel you have a second rifle or upper ready to go.
Cope
>>62646636>according to [the guys who sell nitride barrels] nitride is just as good!Another one for the filter. Thanks for making it easy.
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