Will it be a flop or not?
>>62761253The design looks legit.
>>62761253>flak guns are coming backNature is healing at last...
Anything directly mounted on truck is a huge waste of money
>>62761280The design looks like Halo.
>>62761336Poles have a weird fetish for blocky sloped armoured viehicles
>>62761336>>62761351Polish stuff has crazy ass aesthetics, i kinda like it.
>>62761351>angled awesome armor vehicles>weird to have a fetish for
>>62761351> Poles have a weird fetish for blocky sloped armoured viehiclesAngular vehicles are easier and cheaper to manufacture than curvy vehicles. A lot of the militaries companies in the world could learn a from this
Bideo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n1noYPPCWA
>>62761351I like their IFV and APC
reminds me of the French counterpart which is also truck-based, although 40mm, not 35mm
>>62761253a truck gun? couldn't have put the gun on an AFV chassis like the Skyranger?
>>62761478The rosomak is koool
>>62761253its a good gun on a solid platform, if the radars will be up to par it should be a success if they price it right>>62761302>>flak guns are coming back>Nature is healing at last...Damn right>now if we only could get a modern otomatic
>>62761253>>62761510is it the same 35mm Oerlikon gun as on the Skyranger 35 and on the Turkish korkut?>>62761504no front but that's just a modified Patria. The Borsuk at least has a Polish-designed/made chassis.
Would they revive Loara(a.k.a not gepard)?
>>62761351Funny, so do I.
>>62761525Borsuk is cool too, but i like wheeled viehicles alot
>>62761253>35 mmMiss me with that shit.Saturate the battlefield with quad-mounted .50 cal technicals on the cheap and be done with the drone menace once and for all.How come it's still not a thing?!
>>62761568Nobody wants your ww2 level shit, nobody wants to buy your 12.7 mm ammo, have a nice day
>>62761525I don't think it is. It's a land version of naval osu-35k which is a evolution of Tryton-35mm from ZM Tarnów.
Osu35k
>>62761525>is it the same 35mm Oerlikon gun as on the Skyranger 35 and on the Turkish korkut?Yeah, they have a Oerlikon KD series license so they bound to be pretty close, they started out as naval guns so there might be slight differences
>>62761665thought so. Seems to be the industry standard. So it probably has to be airburst ammo too. If they can make it cheaper than the Skyranger 35 and/or Korkut it will be an interesting product
>>62761253Looks retarded
>>62761588>all those gay "designer" anglesare these people hiring nucar designers?
>>62761825They look cool. Coolness is half the battle to get your stuff bought.
>>62761848how is that gay shit cool? cool military stuff is always utilitarian in design not this video game garbage. those 50 thousand angles could be replaced with much simpler plates. is the barrel shroud functional or just there to look gay and retarded? i will never understand this dumb fucking trend of making shit needlessly complicated for military equipment of all things.
>>62761253AA guns on flatbed trucks Nature is healing.
>>62761825>are these people hiring nucar designers?I wouldn't worry about it
>>62761897>I wouldn't worry about itforced meme
>>62761869How is it needlessly complicated if it's all sharp angles? Just let the machiners do their thing and follow the CAD software plan. It'd be more complicated they had to throw in smooth edges.
>>62761253Can this do anything against multiple fpv drones diving from different sides?
>>62761253Its a step in the right direction and it will probably and ironically be droned itself.
>>62761530It's dead in the water
>>62762262Nothing is immune to swarming
>>62761979Found the tourist.
Should be on an armored platform to increase the size of drone necessary to take it out.
>>62762455Thats why I think shit like >>62761892makes more sense, since it can be hauled on and off whatever truck you want in a minute or so...
>>62762262>>62762318If you have multiple vehicles providing mutual support, it will make the size of the swarm necessary to overcome the defenses too large to be deployed cost effectively and stealthy.
>>62761395>ass aestheticsWhat?
>>62761253Has Poland finally caught up to the 80s?
>>62761351Total Recall (the original) only reached us a few years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYqY5YELd0
>>62761253>polish new SA-35MM drone defence>Will it be a flop or not?how $much does a full magazine for that vehicle cost?how $much per "volley" (however many round projected to neutralize a drone)
>>62761253It might actually end up existing since retards in power seems to have finally realized they fucked up everything.
>>62763554ok but how much$ per mag?
>>62761253The 35mm keeps on winning. Will Oerlikon/Rhm's AHEAD technology take the market? Or does Saab-Bofors still have a chance with their analogous 3P ammunition?
>>62761328Any artillery piece not mounted on a vehicle is obsolete.
>>62761568Imagine having taste this trash. The future is autocannon based and there will be no going back.
>>62761351I dont hate them for having a style and wanting to stick to itAnd I dont hate the style they've chosen either
>>62763573Doesn't matter. Current conflict has shown production capacity is way more important than money.
>>62763719>Current conflict has shown production capacity is way more important than money.totally agree,and for that reason, firstie westoid nato-bloc'ers are in deep dog doo-doo
>>62763590AHEAD has the advantage of being a directed blast warhead, whereas 3P is just a prefragmented casing. Basically shotshell versus grenade. So you end up with a bunch of shrapnel going in random directions, instead of in the path of whatever you're trying to hit. >>62763643>The future is autocannon based and there will be no going back. Ackchully.jpg, the future is a hi-lo mix of ultralight turrets, featuring a 7.62 GMPG, put on literally everything for last-ditch FPV defense, and company-level VSHORAD featuring a mix of laz0rs, flak shells and light missiles (either MANPADS-derived, or Hydras with guidance kits).
>>62761825>>62761869It's to change and reduce the radar reflection from satellites and foliage penetrative radar sensors. I'd like to remind you that Ukraine can buy synthetic apature radar commercially for fuck sake.The "stupid angles" have had a point for over a decade.
>>62763623Towed artillery wins by masses. More is better.
>>62761848This is why NATO will eventually lose
>>62761892>this is the cuckshed they warned you about
>>62761336 It kind of goes from normal military to halo, front to back.I think this is the first uncanny valley effect I've seen on a vehicle.
>>62761253this is the same gun that was in cancelled arty part of loara (we have gepard at home) programthey try selling it every few years - maybe this time it will stick with drone meta as 23 mm dumb ammo arty part of pilica is nearly useless...
>>62761489>>62761253>>62761892Needa place 3 of these on small naval ships to act as screeners.Heck arm them with depth chargers or torpedoes too.
>>62764279>the future is a hi-lo mix of ultralight turrets, featuring a 7.62 GMPG, put on literally everything for last-ditch FPV defenseM230s on everything Targeting data fed by distributed sensors. Every vehicle in a convoy has an autocannon with 30mm airburst HE. Lower calibers are just a waste of ammo in comparison, even with ultra precise aiming.
>>62764962This cannon is literally taken from a mine destroyer ship. Just adapted for drone countering
>>62761253Why so big?
>>62764279>Ackchully.jpg, the future is a hi-lo mix of ultralight turrets, featuring a 7.62 GMPG, put on literally everything for last-ditch FPV defense, and company-level VSHORAD featuring a mix of laz0rs, flak shells and light missiles (either MANPADS-derived, or Hydras with guidance kitsIt's exactly what they intend to do
>>62764548Not when rocket artillery on trucks mulches all your artillerymen.
>>62765130>pszar>pszr>pszlThe Pshek is real.
>>62761530It uses the T-72 chassis no? In that case it's a dead project. No one ever made any spare parts for these after 1990.Same thing with BMP-1s, they were exploited to hell and back. Now you know why Andrzej was so angry about his dented fender.
>>62761253Poles and Americans are the only people who have war data from ukraine so it probably will be one of the best>>62762262it will have a fpv jammer
>>62766707I've looked at it. If it's not vapor ware it's designed logically. >>62765016To do what it claims it could do needs a lot of things from batteries, to servos, to ammo. You can usually tell if something is vaporware if it's just a big gun and nothing else. It seems legit but who knows. You'd put batteries then servos down there with 3 phase motors. It's an auto cannon 3/4 of it are just the support for the cannon. They look like pumpkins with balls lol
>>62761351Don't look at Czech Dita howitzer.
>>62764171NATO is the largest industrial bloc on earth.
Polish general are too stupid and backwards to realize the potential.They'll start ordering these when Puccia is chimping out on the Lithuanian border.
>>62761253>>62761467>>62761525>>62761574>>62761588>>62766734Here is the AM/OSU-35K live firing:https://youtu.be/hYfHV2fRb10
>>62769787>Here is the AM/OSU-35K live firing:https://youtu.be/2WOxlq_Jezc
>>62769787>Beeg muzzle sensors So it uses AHEAD rounds, right?
>>62769928It can, yes.https://youtu.be/Rss6LZeBTJE
>>62770028
>>62770033
>>62761892
>>62761713>>62761825>>62761869Is this older design of the sys better for yall?https://youtu.be/AP-JzplC8e8
>>62764279>>62764965https://youtu.be/NAMtLvRO7j0
>>62765130https://youtu.be/GL3TW1ishDY
>>62770153https://youtu.be/ZaCsIZpH3so
>>62770160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpFgBnjnUGs
>>62770165https://youtu.be/vtCoHyeuaUg
>>62770153>>62770160>>62770165>>62770187
>>62770191https://youtu.be/Qp7BVTUMJhk
>>62764279https://youtu.be/bRWXxZ76cNg
>>62770282https://youtu.be/EF36Wo6-7R4
>>62765624https://youtu.be/fc3qeAuxeuo
>>62770028>Radar of sadnessThank you from the mountain
>>62770355Haha... xDP.S. It's meant to be "Radar TUGA" fyi.
>>62765832Hypothetically speaking, how difficult it would be to put this turret on K2 chassis?
>>62770153>>62770160>>62770165>iLauncherdamn, Apple really stepped up their gameiNuke when?
>>62770743I don't think the T-72 has the same turret ring dimensions as the K2...
>>62770779It sure did.https://youtu.be/s1uyJ_2lj_M
>>62761553It sure is.https://youtu.be/uRpLQJE2Cak
>>62762968i hate this fucking movie so much
>>62765624>t.
>>62773092Never not funny.
>>62773109yeah. i love my country so much
>>62761568Infantry already wrecks small grenade dropping drones and FPV drones. Several videos of guys just shooting them down with their assault rifles and shotguns.
>>62773128Except when they miss and die, or don't hear it because theyre quiet compared to shells and gunfire.Those are fun videos
>>62770053Anyone knows what type of radar is used ?This specific one, or any type used in that sort of terminal C-UAS defense.
>>62773433It's literally in the name - the Polish APS "SKYctrl" or rather FIELDctrl 3D MIMO radars.https://youtu.be/oQm9dS5T_P4https://youtu.be/Srpi0dHygQ0https://youtu.be/fYjiFs6aE-Mhttps://youtu.be/UN9G5gJwSb0
>>62764548>>62761328I often wonder if posts like these are actually enemy shills trying to inject retarded ideas into the zeitgeist of military discussion.
>>62773640Anti rak cope probably
>>62773684Someone said Rak? Rak, with Pangolin.
