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luv me nightawk....simple as
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>>62766017
I too play War Thunder.
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The F-117 flew over 2,100 combat sorties combined in the Gulf War and the operations over Serbia.

It experienced 1 total loss, 1 partial loss and no fatalities throughout it's entire combat history.
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factoid- bases that held the nighthawk had special entry procedures, which included receiving biometric authorization by placing your hand on this scanner.
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>>62766047
>over 2,100 combat sorties combined in the Gulf War and the operations over Serbia.
>and no fatalities throughout it's entire combat history.
is that the sickest KDR of any military vehicle ever?
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>>62766017
NightHAWK Tuah
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>>62766334
drop a jdam on that thang
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>>62766296
Didn't Bob Lazar get roasted for claiming something like this even existed during his time at Area 51, only for evidence of its existence at sensitive US facilities during the span of time he would've been at the base to emerge later on?
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>>62766334
Shit on that thang
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>>62766047
that seems rather little.
f-117 can't do a sortie/day? how much maintenance does it need after a sortie.
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>>62766391
Hey bro can I come out and play?
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>>62766327
B 29. It fire bombed Japan and nuked it. Probably 2.5 million dead to 550 dead
I would guess the b2 has killed around 50000. B 2 flights are way more common than people think. Theres always
6 or so flying around getting ready to drop bomb somewhere on the planet. I lived next to the base in Missouri for work and you'd see them fly out every night every 2 or 3 hours until morning.
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>>62766345
it's well known bob lazar worked at some high security place. What's never mentioned though is he was a fucking janitor. He was never a physicist. He doesn't talk or act like one, doesn't use the vocabulary or even have the understanding when you hear him in conversation. Guy is a huge fraud, I've give literally anything to see a sitdown between him and an actual physicist where they just talk about quantum mechanics or something
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>>62766661
>Red Bull and Hot Pockets partnership
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>>62766688
>I lived next to the base in Missouri for work and you'd see them fly out every night every 2 or 3 hours until morning.
were those nuclear deterrence patrols?
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>>62766688
neither hiroshima nor nagasaki were meaningful military targets and did not host significant military personnel in 1945.
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>>62766017
so
this is a fighter?
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>>62766878
>neither hiroshima nor nagasaki were meaningful military targets
they were the only locations the Catholic church was allowed in Japan

virtually ALL "axis" nations were Catholic
ww2 was basically the Catholic church vs the satanic jew order
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>>62766906
hitler absolutely loathed the catholics
catholics have morals, unlike you pr*testants
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>>62766897
>so
>this is a fighter?
no its an attack craft, but 'fighter' is much much sexier for the media
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>>62766914
im not a filthy fucking protestant and thats horse shit that Hitler 'hated Catholics"
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>>62766906
>new schizofic just dropped
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>>62766922
Hitler did not like the Catholic church, anon.
Because the whole point of national socialism was to develop a state religion, with him as the dear leader. It's a cult of personality model.
Of course he doesn't like the catholics, because they were challenging his personal state religion.

Here, from the horse's mouth:
>Das 25-Punkte-Programm der Nationalsozialistischen Deutschen Arbeiterpartei
>24. Februar 1920
>Die Partei als solche vertritt den Standpunkt eines positiven Christentums, ohne sich konfessionell an ein bestimmtes Bekenntnis zu binden.
The nazis were pr*testants. What they are decribing here IS protestantism.
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>>62766878
The entirety of Japan was a military target, Okinawa had proved that the Japanese would carry on fighting no matter how hopeless things were. Nukes cost fewer lives for both sides than a ground invasion.
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>>62766922
The SS disavowed the Kaiser and replaced Catholicism with their weird schizoid version of Norse paganism. The Church was seen among the institutions which failed the German people. It's telling much of the Nazi top brass like Himmler are EX-Catholics.
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>>62766878
Is that really the case though? Word was that Japan had conscripted over 50% of its population for the defense of the mainland, even if it meant arming them with just sharpened bamboo sticks.
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>>62766017
https://youtu.be/9RO5ZAmzjvI?si=0gfJvAh2jGZl0IPn&t=3157
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>>62766334
You're a menace.
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>>62766878
And? Even without that is still bombed the shit out of Japs. And pressurized crew compartments enabling a 30k' service ceiling means it suffered a hell of a lot less that 17s, Liberators and Lancasters.
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>>62766915
I thought the F designation was for subterfuge.
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>>62767457
TL:DW
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>>62766906
Google says you are wrong, but on the right track
>No, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the only Japanese cities with churches during WWII, but they were the cities with the most significant Christian populations
Got alternative sauce?
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>>62766327
F-15 is undefeated, so technically the F-15.
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>>62766906
Then why were over 3000 priests/clergy of the Catholic Church put into concentration camps, retard?
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>>62766565
It flew over 850 sorties in Yugoslavia in just 78 days.
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>>62766345
Lazar's claims were mostly of things that were already known, but he started his shtick before the internet made bullshitting harder and also long enough ago that the timelines are fudged.
Element 115 for example was mentioned in a Scientific American article about transuranic elements two years prior to Lazar mentioning it.
That scanner is called Identimat 2000 and it was used in the 1977 movie "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind" and its existence was public knowledge since 1971.
So when details about the F-117 program emerge and they show the hand scanner, or the confirmation about the synthesis of Muscovium takes a long ass fucking time and became news in 2015/2016, people think "HOLY SHIT BOB LAZAR TALKED ABOUT THIS". Yeah, because he watched sci-fi movies and read scientific articles. Shit that was publicly known, but esoteric enough that the average person wouldn't dig into. If you watched "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind" you don't remember the exact model of the hand scanner, and even if you did it would slip past you that the movie came out before Bob started making his claims. And a ton of people on the internet today were born in the 90s, so they don't even remember when the movie came out and how the timeline shits all over Lazar's supposed inside knowledge.
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>>62766327
>gets shot down
>is this the sickest KDR ever?
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>>62766017
We did not know your plane was invisible.
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>>62767696
Go ahead, shoot me down.
You can't unbomb Belgrade.
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>>62767696
We know you didn't, because you didn't even see it until it opened its bomb bay.
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>>62767686
When I was a teenager I would read all the shit I could on UFOs I could find since as a small child I had found a book on aliens in the local library and it freaked me out to the point I had nightmares (seriously, my mother left me in the kids section while she looked up reference material and they had a book on a stand with fucking cgi gray alien renders on the front). All my reading over the years turned me from a 'holy shit this stuffs real' into 'its a bunch of retards lying to other retards'
People have now been taking about disclosure and their super top secret careers for decades and nothings ever come of it. Even that tic tac ufo thing didn't prove shit about anything
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>>62766915
>>62767495
It was actually to assuage pilot egos
>A televised documentary quoted project manager Alan Brown as saying that Robert J. Dixon, a four-star USAF general who was the head of Tactical Air Command, felt that the top-notch USAF fighter pilots required to fly the new aircraft were more easily attracted to an aircraft with an "F" designation for fighter, as opposed to a bomber ("B") or attack ("A") designation.
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>>62766047
>>62766327
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>>62767701
Losing only one might seem nice for the KD ratio but when it is a stealth fighter and Russia was able to study the technology from the wreckage, it is a huge blow, to the point of making the whole design useless. Serbians scored really hard and basically retired the plane with one shot.
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>>62767689
There's only 6 planes with active conflict operational history that have never had a single one of them shot down, so having 1 shot down is still impressive....Oh yea, all 6 of those by the way are American.
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>>62767759
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>>62767758
It was shot down because they saw it at the right moment, knowing it was operating in the area, with every single radar and AA weapon fixed on the flight-path they suspected it was flying according to spies which watched it take off from a house a couple miles away from the air field they were operating under. There's a reason they only ever shot down one, out of almost 900 sorties.

>and russia was able to study it
The US opted not to destroy the wreckage because it was out-dated by 1999. By that point the F-22 was in full swing and was set to replace it since it could do everything the F-117 could do, and more. Funnily enough, neither China nor Russia have been able to produce a stealth plane as effective as the F-117 either, after studying whatever ruined remains they got from it anyway.

>Serbians scored really hard
No, they really didn't. In fact, when Americans look at the F-117, none of them even know it was shot down in Serbia. It was
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>>62767789
It was nothing to them*
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>>62767758
>serbians retired the plane with one shot
>one shot was in 1999
>F-117 continued to be used in Serbia for remainder of bombing campaign
>F-117 was used without losses in Enduring Freedom in 2001
>First bombs dropped in Iraqi freedom (2003) also from F-117
>used for COIN ops in 2005
>Program Budget Decision 720, a 2005 plan to retire the F-117 entirely focuses on the B-2 and F-22 being stealthier and cheaper, as well as the F-35 beginning to mature
>F-22s first flight was in 1997, making the F-117 on borrowed time anyhow 2 years before shootdown
>plan to fully demil F-117 fleet not to occur until 2034
“Yeah the serbs totally destroyed it in one shot lmao, i am not a delusional serb.”
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>>62767758
>it is a huge blow, to the point of making the whole design useless
Its replacement was already in service by then.
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>>62767789
>>62767820
>>62767836

>The US opted not to destroy the wreckage because it was out-dated by 1999.

Holy cope, being outdated doesn't mean you want to give your stealth technology to the enemy, after all the upgraded technology is still based on the old one.

> In fact, when Americans look at the F-117, none of them even know it was shot down in Serbia.
The ones who are butthard do.
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>>62767758
“In march 2019 it was reported that four F-117s had been secretly deployed to the middle east in 2016” bruh this thing was an active weapon for 17 years after it was supposedly retired by slavmonkeys, the legendary P-51 mustang was only IN SERVICE for a total of 8 years. Maybe work on retiring things better, serbia.
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>>62767840
>still no response to how it managed thousands of combat sorties years after s*rbia supposedly rendered it obsolete
I accept your concession. We agree the serbia shootdown was basically luck and american doctrinal laziness
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>>62767854
Killing goat farmers is not so hard, don't be proud of that, you don't have to fear any true air defense.
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>>62767840
>Holy cope!
Posting facts is not coping, sorry. The US military at the time openly can be quoted as saying that.

>The F-117 was based on 1970s technology, the military had revealed its existence in 1988, and the aircraft often appeared at air shows. General Bruce A. Carlson stated that if Serbia gave the wreckage to Russia, the result would be minimal.

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0701crash/

>The ones who are butthard do.
Which are none, because the F-117 bombed the shit out of Serbia without them even knowing it.
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>>62767869
>Killing goat farmers is not so hard
The Serbs sure had a tough time at it in Afghanistan.
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>>62767868
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>>62767874
>The US military at the time openly can be quoted as saying that.
Yeah they are the ones coping, did you expect them to loose face? They see losing to Talibans as a win somehow
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>>62767892
>the F-117 is terrible and obsolete
>the F-117 has massively putmatched every opponent the US has ever flown it against between the years of 1983 and 2016 including russian air defenses in iraqi freedom and syria
Pick one.
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>>62767758
that one plane sure was worth all the thirdies it bombed
I jest but it probably was worth more than all of them LMAO
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>>62767903
They're not mutually exclusive.
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>>62767892
Lmao, you're coping so hard and you don't even know it, just like you didn't know that thousands of bombs were dropped on your ass by the plane you pretend to have had a victory over.

>muh taliban
How many planes did they shoot down again? Oh, right, zero.
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>>62767892
The US lost thousands of B-17s yet that was a successful bomber. The US loses 1 F-117 25 years ago so the F-117 must be useless even in serbia alone, its bombs dropped to airframes lost outmatches nearly every bomber ever fielded. You would have to constrain its entire service history to the day it was shot down to give it an unfavorable ratio. Even if you attempt to argue that the Serbia shooting matters insofar is it rendered the airframe unusable and future wars, clearly that ended up not mattering at all, because the airframe was able to be used successfully against every single opponent the US faced for the next quarter century. Genuinely what is the argument here? F117 was now unable to be used against an enemy that the US was not facing? That stealth technology is only useful if it renders a craft completely invincible for 40 consecutive years?
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>>62767696
Still managed to hit it's target.
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>>62767869
Maybe you aren't aware, but Iraq had a real military, and it was defeated back-to-back in desert storm and during Iraqi Freedom.
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>serbs could take pride in david and goliath story on how they killed a nearly invincible plane
>instead have to triple down and claim they made one of the most successful airframes in history totally useless in face of overwhelming evidence, the most damning of all being that F-117s continued to bomb them for three more months after the shootdown.
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>>62766334
Is it some /v/ meme or something else I'm not brainrotten enough to get?
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>>62767892
You are either a delusional serb, or a butthurt slav.
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>>62767955
There's a girl who was interviewed on some youtube channel on the street about blowjobs or something and she responded with "You gotta HAWK-TUAH, spit on that thang!"

She's now famous and has her own podcast and is likely effectively a millionaire for that alone.
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>>62766977
>>62767434
He's actually right. The two cities were among the least significant when it came to military targets and in fact they were barely bombed at all during the war.

This is why they were chosen in the first place : they wanted to turn an untouched city into rubble to demonstrate the power of this new bomb. The targets had been decided upon long before Okinawa.
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>>62766017
Why aren't the Nighthawk's surfaces curved like the F-22?
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I laff when I see people equate killing an American tank or plane to striking down a god.

I went to a Serbian military museum where they keep a part of the downed Nighthawk. The exhibit was at the very end, directly next to the exit. Clearly one of the most revered pieces there.
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>>62767995
Hiroshima was home to the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd General Army. Without it, the entire southern division of Japan would be disorganized and lack the ability to orchestrate defenses effectively.

Nagasaki also hosted major steel and munitions factories essential to maintaining Japan’s military production.

Please stop talking.
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>>62768015
Computing power was extremely limited. Curves are generally superior.
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>>62768021
How many times were those targets bombed conventionally throughout the war? Were the atomic bombs dropped over these specific targets or rather over the city centers?
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>>62768015
It relied on radar-scattering, as the flat surfaces + sharp angles would scatter radar away from it. It's called "faceted shaping", and while less effective than curved designs, its still very effective.
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>>62767973
And here I am, the ungooglable man and polar opposite of social media fame. I mean, I have my reasons, but it makes one wonder.
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>>62768015
Reality couldn't handle Gouraud shading back then.
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>>62767739
Kek.
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>>62767790
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>>62767774
It STILL looks like it's more advanced than the J-20. I would bet, even money, the f-117 has better stealth than anything china has created.
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>>62766878
fuck off

Hiroshima was the HQ of the Home Islands' southern defence sector and Second Army, and was historically the launchpad for many of Japan's campaigns as it had a large port as well as many troop barracks and marshalling areas

Nagasaki was and still remains one of Japan's largest ports, and again the most important one in the south. Unlike Hiroshima however it was more dedicated to shipbuilding and weapons production

The invasion of Japan was supposed to start in the south, so these factors were especially important

besides which, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were home to numerous military factories manufacturing various items, including Kure Arsenal and Mitsubishi Arms
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>>62766877
B2s are only allowed to land in the US. Some anon here told a story about how he was at an airbase overseas and the whole base was evacuated so a B2 could perform an emergency landing.
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>>62766897
strike aircraft ?
would it have killed them to put IRST and some fox 2 or 3 on there
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>>62769342
>1980s IRST on a stealth design
no longer a stealth design
>fox 2
proposed, never done
>fox 3
AIM-120 did not exist during F-117's development, if you're suggesting AIM-54 then lole
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>>62769342
Could've happened, but the DoD told Lockheed to fuck off and work on their JSF program contestant instead.
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>>62767914
The F-117 is useless because its payload is basically limited to 2 2000-lb bomb bays and yet handles like a brick (even a Su-34 is nimble by comparison)
“Stealth” (really just minimizing radar reflections for a few specific angles and frequencies) is mostly useful against opponents using some donated soviet system from the 50s or something. Newer AD systems will detect the F-117 (and then it’s toast), and if the enemy has no AD then why even bother
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>>62769631
Regarding the argument
>it did well against America’s enemies
That’s because America only directly fights “papuans”. If the opponent is credible then it’s cheaper to get your puppet state to fight for you: this is why we aid ukraine
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>>62768792
Not true. The problem is the B-2 needs a special climate-controlled hangar for maintenance, and there's only two airbases outside of the United States that have them: RAF Fairford and Diego Garcia.
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>>62767869
the goat farmers are using your air defenses though, vanya
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>>62769631
All semi-modern AD systems can detect all stealth planes, the only question is at what range.
But..., and Russians don't want you to know this, all strategic air defense systems like the Patriot, S-400 or SAMP/T are absolutely FUCKED against all 4.5th generation fighters.
I'm going to take the Rafale vs S400 for example since I know it best;
>go in the general direction of the S-400
>S-400 needs to turn on since the long range radar is screaming at it that something is approaching
>CERES constellation picks up the sig and sends it to the airframe
>now that Rafale knows where it isn't, it can approach the S-400 at around 200 kilometers and drop a SCALP-EG while turning around
>the crew of the S-400 has 11 minutes to pick up the SCALP-EGs rerurn, realise what it is, pack up, retract the launchers and hit the road
I'm guessing you can intuitively understand that they can not do all of those things within 11 minutes it takes for the SCALP-EG to touch their bums.
That US simulation of how would they take down an S-400 installation in Syria is pure trolling on their part.
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>>62769631
F-117 sure was useful flying with impunity over Baghdad in 1991
if you're talking about today then lmao no shit a first generation stealth plane with no situational awareness is vulnerable to modern systems
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>>62769763
Here is a SCALP flying directly over an S-300 installation for anyone who thinks low observable munitions can be detected at a reasonable range.
And SCALP is just low-observable, not stealth like the LRASM (good luck PLAN)
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>>62769782
Iraq’s AD was S-75s and S-125s, which are literally from the 50s. By 1991, the USSR (or its successor states) had S-300s, which are vastly superior to anything the F-117 went up against, for 13 years
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>>62766661
Sexy blob
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>>62769823
so you're tellin me that the F-117 had complete dominance over known air defense systems at the time of its design and even a decade later the only maybe possible credible threat was solely in the possession of a failed state in the middle of collapse?
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>>62769342
https://youtu.be/VVjdFBZCRQc
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>>62769763
>the crew of the S-400 has 11 minutes to pick up the SCALP-EGs rerurn, realise what it is, pack up, retract the launchers and hit the road
Could CRAMs and their equivalents defend against cruise missiles?
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>>62769848
>the f-117 being inadequate against the s-300 doesn’t count because it was only introduced before the f-117 was introduced, not before the f-117 was first designed
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>>62767758
Yes, because the F-117 wreckage did so well to galvanize the Russian stealth fighter and bomber projects with their

1 half production run of SU-57s that are apparently as stealthy as a F-18, clean, and the vaporware SU-75 multirole fighter, that no one, including buyers who are not in either NATO or US aligned spheres that would kill for a stealth fighter, wants either of them.
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>>62769926
>hyper super dooper wonder missile will defeat wectern stealth jet!!!
>state collapses
>30 years after collapse S-300 is yet to shoot down any stealth aircraft of any description
KWAB
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>>62767758
If you are using technology that freely doing that many sorties you are no longer that highly concerned with it being downed and studied.
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>>62769960
>If you are using technology that freely doing that many sorties you are no longer that highly concerned with it being downed and studied.
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>>62769880
Yes.
However, almost no AD field installations have them, only base AD and only with US AFAIK.
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>>62770084
dang, but Iranian space lasers?
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>>62770189
To be honest, there is nothing special about lasers as they are utilised currently, and that is just glorified drone defense, I mean, Turks and Israelis have them, although latter seems they got the tech from Raytheon.
We will have to see what NGAD and FCAS have in plans but if they manage to have anti-missile defense lasers, that would be a genuine move forward.
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>>62769952
>if magnus carlsen is so good then why has he never beaten me in chess? Is it because I never ever challenged him? Nah he must suck
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>>62767995
That doesn't mean they were not military targets though. And it was decided after the fanatical defense of Okinawa that a land invasion would result in almost total destruction of everything and everyone in Japan, if it had gone ahead they would probably be close to modern North Korean development now.
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>american technology so much better than anyone else's that the thirdies think 1 down out of 2,100 sorties is a humiliating loss for america
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>>62770452
yes yes vanya I'm sure your SAM system that was designed with no knowledge of stealth aircraft is good enough to swat them out of the sky from 100 miles away rossiya stronk
can you tell me about how it fares vs non stealth ballistic missiles?
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>>62769652
Sure didnt have a problem bombing the shit out of Serbians.
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>>62769926
>>62770452
>promotes the idea that his SAM system is a stealth-jet killer
>has never shot down a stealth jet

Imagine being as retarded and copium-addicted as you are, lmao.
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If there were as many serbs as there are americans, we would liberate you from your jewish masters and there would be no one to brainwash your whore wives into making your son a tranny
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>>62772217
if there were as many serbs as there are americans there wouldn't be as many serbs as there are americans for long
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>>62769652
Iraq was the most powerful soviet-style military force.
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Few years ago we sent you a guy to remind you that white guys can play basketball better than the blacks. Some time ago we sent you a guy to teach you that the alternating current is the way to go. Hopefully in the near future we'll mamage to send a few guys to teach you that you don't have to suck dick. you can just say no.
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>>62772217
notice how nobody but serbs want to be ruled by serbs crazy innit
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>>62769631
Ah so you're a zigger
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>>62772251
At least serbs want to be ruled by serbs, unlike you fags who like being ruled by izrael. Have fun in Iran in the near future, because your wive sure will when you're away
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>>62772246
That's an odd way of saying
> "Serbia is a shithole and when someone of value that comes along once a century they immediately jumps ship."
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>>62772295
>>62772251
Serbs want to be ruled by Russians.
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>>62767758
the nighthawk was inspired by a russian paper in the first place
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>>62767820
>used for COIN ops in 2005
Ok, if even lightly armed citizens couldn't shoot it down, I'm convinced!
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>>62766017
My favorite plane since 1999
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>>62770254
>We will have to see what NGAD and FCAS have in plans
only 12 or 13 more years to go!
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>serbs and ziggers jizz themselves over shooting done 1 (One) (Singular) F-117 and like two other planes while they had their airforce raped and their infrastructure bombed to the stoneage
lol
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>>62772217
My nigger, you couldn't deal with fucking albanians while vastly outnumbering and outgunning them. Larger s*rbia would just be Russia with more gay rape and extra bottles up private conscriptovich's ass
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Knew this thread would be full of servians. Got kicked out of Croatia and lost Kosovo, then got reset to factory settings in the Belgrade bombing LMFAO

Must be tough to be a loser and have your populace wipe Austrian ass in Vienna while claming to fight the West HAHAHAHHAAH
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>>62774760
Don't forget, s*rbian AA shot down more of their own aircraft than NATO aircraft, even though NATO aircraft outnumbered theirs hundredfold at any time during the bombing
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>>62767734
This book used to scare the shit out of me, especially stuff like the Mad Gasser of Mattoon.

Nowadays as an adult I still love cryptids, even though I don't believe them to be real at all, and find mass-hysteria fascinating.
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>>62766323
The swing-wing shitbox Tornado is so out of place in this picture. Aerodynamically one generation behind the rest, while being a contemporary design.
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>>62776663
the F-16 does not beat the Tornado for NOE flying
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>>62773595
Lockheed did the actual work, the paper just worked as a halfway decent start point.
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>>62767758
It apparently wasn't a blow at all since Russia still hasn't developed air defenses that can target stealth aircraft, nor have they developed any genuine stealth aircraft aircraft of their own, the f-117 continued to be operated for years, and no others were lost. It's honestly pretty funny and pathetic, how Serbia as a nation essentially has had their entire cultural identity and sense of pride centered around shooting down a single plane for decades.
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>>62776862
>genuine stealth aircraft aircraft of their own,
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>>62776990
>Rakesh is completely behind the curve and still thinks these are "stealth"
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The only Serbs who deserve to feel proud of shooting down the Nighthawk are Zoltán Dani and his men. They shot it down because they were far more competent than any other Yugoslav AAA units. The accomplishment belongs to him and his men alone, not the Serbian nation.
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>>62777721
You mean no Serbs deserve to feel proud, since Dani is Vojvodina Hungarian.

The only reason they were far more competent is because their CO wasn't a serbchimp, throwing feces at the sky.
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>>62767955
stop pretending like you don't know what it is.
>>62768283
you aren't a hermit, you don't even have jedi robes.
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>>62770254
>nothing special about lasers as they are utilised currently, and that is just glorified drone defense
Lasers can defend against rockets, mortars, artillery, helicopters, drones, cruise missiles, and even fixed wing craft at up to 5miles. They make a point defense shield that you would have to throw hundreds of munitions at to penetrate. When these 120kw and 300kw lasers come online, it's going to change ground tactics completely. Imagine an assault where you are completely immune to indirect fire when warfare for the last 100 years has been completely about just that.

Nothing special, they completely change everything. And then you have dazzlers and other anti-missile defense systems like DIRCM that completely shut down MANPADS and all other short range IR missiles. The only threat to a stealth plane is IR guided missiles and DIRCM voids that threat completely. the NGAD will definitely have it.
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>>62777754
>You mean no Serbs deserve to feel proud, since Dani is Vojvodina Hungarian.
Shit, I didn't know that. I stand corrected. I still think Zoltán Dani's achievement was impressive even though Serbs won't shut the fuck up about it and act like it was their accomplishment. And I would think that Zelko also finds it impressive since he later because friends with Dani.
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>>62777919
>Zelko
I wonder if he's actually descended from Serb immigrants and that's why he was shot down, because he was the stupid one.
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>>62777050
>ukraines AD (aka US) never saw it
lol, lmfao even

think of how *high value* a fucking team of SU-57 and S70 eating patriots would have been for peremoga

instead the Felon got drunk and beat its wife over the border and no one knew untill the episode aired on "cops"
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>>62777802
>When these 120kw and 300kw lasers come online
when is that planned & expected to happen?
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>>62778863
Retard, the wreck was literally photographed up close, it's not stealth.
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>>62778891
>the US Army intends to deploy as many as four operational 300-kW-class IFPC–HEL prototypes in tactical military vehicles by 2024.
Why the fuck are you incapable of using google? And israel plans on adding laser weapons in 2025 to their iron dome.
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/rafael-expects-iron-beam-laser-to-be-active-in-2025-exec/
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>>62779017
>plans
>expects
>in development
may we see the operational systems now?
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>>62779084
There are several deployed in an undisclosed location. P-HEL laser systems have already shot down a few drones. The article is on forbes but you have to pay for it, or on wired where you have to sign up. Or military.com where they say they were deployed.

Of course you would know this if you learned how to use fucking google instead of being a retarded third worlder.
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>>62766266
There are 22 F-117's in this image, dated 1991

That's exactly how many Su-57's Russia has in service right now.
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>>62779109
>forbes has the inside scoop about the super duper secret laser
may I see operational footage like Irans from friday?
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>>62779182
The US has OPSEC and doesn't release videos like a retarded russian or muslim. You are seriously a try hard third worlder.
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>>62779237
youre /k/oping baby
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>>62766661
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>>62771870
>what do you mean my light bomber that’s designed to be “stealthy” against one radar band still shows up on the other bands? Noooo my vidya said it’s invisib-ACK!
>>62772065
>n-no you are coping
Note that radars like the nebo-m are capable of tracking stealth fighters
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>>62780011
>it's another episode of "retarded faggot doesn't understand the difference between early warning and fire control radar"
also
>Russia claims
top kek
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>>62767758
I'm no expert but I think the U.S. is like on it's 5th manned full production stealth airframe since the 1970s.

Russia is still struggling to build Su-57's in the year 2024 and it's still not a full on stealth fighter and certainly no fifth gen fighter.

I don't think losing an F-117 mattered much.
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F-117A from 37th Tactical Fighter Wing getting inspected during Operation Desert Shield.
Saudi Arabia 1991
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>>62767758
>stealth fighter
Its a bomber and Russia can’t even replicate it to this day
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>>62767869
>True air defense
This post aged badly lmao, jews proved your tech is garbage
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>>62780023
>nooo you can’t use your lower precision radar to dial in the higher-precision one or to lob active and/or semi-active radar homing missiles at me because… ummm… I sexually identify as invisible or something respect my gender identity chud!!!1
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Too bad this plane isnt in Ace Combat 7 nor Project Wingman...but it is on C&C Generals
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>>62784030
sure sounds a whole lot more complex and prone to failure than simply getting a lock with a fire control radar, also sounds a whole lot easier for an EW plane to fuck around with
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>>62784096
>2 steps (ir just the usual one step in the case if ARH or SARH) is complex
Congrats on outing yourself as low IQ
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>>62784202
correct, when your low frequency radar has a resolution that's miles wide it's pretty difficult to point a fire control radar precisely at an aircraft
I still can't believe third worlders can't grasp the idea that stealth only makes detection more difficult and that difficulty increase is worth a lot, especially when compounded with electronic warfare
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>>62766661
Alleged to have flown to within five miles of an E-3 without being detected
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>>62784233
That’s why you use SARH or ARH: once the missile is within a few km of the target then it is able to finish the job on its own.
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>>62766661
this guy was mostly built with common off the shelf components so as to better hide the true nature of the project. yet they managed to revolutionize air warfare with all of the data that came out of it.

northrop can be beyond based sometimes.
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>>62766225
UFO looking POS
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>>62766878
>neither Beirut or Tehran are meaningful military targets and don't host significant military personnel in 2024.
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>>62786326
that'd be Tokyo and Kyoto, then.



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