What went wrong?
i mean its a product no one was asking for
Abandonware
>>62778000>Barrel shroud looked stupid and went against the long gun german autismos>Rheinmetall's APS flopped>More smooooooooook because they don't understand small drones...
Is the whole row of smoke launcher-looking canisters actually smoke, or is it an APS?Without a good APS it might as well be vatnik-tier tech without the turret space program.
>>62778093Fixed smoke launchers (? and Iron Fist™
>>62778000Strikeshield sisters...not like this...
>>62778079Barrel shroud was for protection of the barrel from Rheinmetall's APS
right looks a billion times better than left if you find a pic from a good angle
Uncrewed turret and a total crew of 2?
>>62778000why is it made of legos?
>>62779727Ever stepped on one?
Still no dedicated chassis yet?
>>62778000It's a tech dem, not an actual product you monkey.>look what we can do! Give us money and we can adapt it to your needs!
>>62778654>protection of the barrel from Rheinmetall's APSyoure jesting right?
>>62778093smoke could occlude the tank from drones when it comes to accurate targeting, and it'd be better to have than not, but you'd need to know when they're incoming.... so, probably useless unless there's a radar on the thing.
>>62779895Nope. Also, the hatch next to the driver's seat isn't even real. It's just a detachable plastic mock up.>>62780477It's a vaporware, Anon. They haven't even settled legal issues regarding the rights for the chassis. Not even the design team knows when it's gonna be finished.
>>62780541>smoke could occlude the tank from dronesThat's a bit too far optimistic, I must say. Unlike modern day atgm, fpv will just hover until the smoke disappears.
>>62780551>They haven't even settled legal issues regarding the rights for the chassisThe rights to modify A4-chassis has bern settled, along with who owns the Leopard IP.
>>62780593They only have rights to modify it for ARV. They have no rights to build new chassis. All rights regarding the intellectual property of Leo 2 belongs to KNDS(formerly KMW).
>>62780608Yes, that is what i ment in >>62780593, but they are also free to modify existing A4 into things beyond support vehicles, such as the PL, P5050 etc. IP for producing new Leo chassis or turrets is KNDS property
>>62780630Yes, so it's safe to say the tank will not be finished until they've got a new chassis, unless they've got an endless supply of preexisting Leo 2 chassis.
>>62778000the german military industry is having a real hard time right now.only a few baltic tiny countries still want to buy their stuff, everybody else picks american/korean. how the mighty have fallen.
>>62778000ngl, they stole AAF camo.Republic of Altis should fucking sue them for copyright infirgment
>At Eurosatory 2024 Rheinmetall unveiled its Concept Unmanned Turret (CUT), presented at the show on the KF51 modification of the Leopard MBT platform. (Photo: P Felstead)
>>62780496No. Their APS uses something like linar shaped charges. Charges that protect turret from the front are mounted on the hull glacis and fire up. Their explosion hits guns barrel. To protect barrel it got shroud.
>>62780639Yep, it will probably be something similar to the KF31&KF41, in which the '31 was basically the Marder Evo in its final form, while the 41 is more of a clean-sheet design within the same form factor. Hopefully the project with Italy will mean we get some more details soon
germs once again MOGGED by Poland and Korea KEK
Where APS????
>>62780758THE IRON FIST IS RIGHT FUCKING THERE
camo looks like shitshape is pretty bad too but it's not as badplease try harder Gunther
>>62780707>Uses israely products >cuts barrel shroudthey cant keep getting away with it
>>62778000At least they ditched Strikeshield for the last time, which was a sitting duck against drones.
>>62778000>he fell for a concept art
That's what you get for trusting krauts.
>>62778000they didn't hire the BAE marketing team
>>62780551>Not even the design team knows when it's gonna be finishedif you think that any prospective product AT ALL, civilian or military, is finished before it is put in a brochure, you're extremely sadly mistaken
>>62780654No ones buying Korean or American though ?>>62780750>>62785203You need to stop seething about Germany it’s not healthy for you
>>62785439Say, do you see ghosts around you?
>>62785487Do you believe me saying you (meaning you guys btw) is directed at only you, or is the other guy nonexistent ?
>>62785439>No ones buying Korean or American though ?Finland, Norway, Estonia, Romania, Egypt, UAE, KSA, Australia, Philippines, Malaysia, India, and last but not least, Poland.
>>62785503>Do you believe me saying you (meaning you guys btw) is directed at only you, or is the other guy nonexistent ?No, but I see he is living rent free in you.
>>62785510Finland, Norway,Estonia, Romania, Eqypt and UAE are buying German though ?>>62785513I see I made you angry
>>62785531>I see I made you angryWhy would I be mad at you? I'm literally here to help you m8.
>>62785531NTA but>Finland, Norway, Estonia, RomaniaK9 Thunder>EgyptK9 Thunder, T/FA-50 jets>UAEChunmoo MLRS, KM-SAM batteriesso>No ones buying Koreanthis turned out to be hilariously wrong
>>62785531>Finland, Norway,Estonia, Romania, Eqypt and UAE are buying German though ??https://defence-blog.com/romania-buys-south-koreas-k9-howitzers/
>>62785541Add Iraq to the list. It's the 4th country to procure KM-SAM already.
>>62785541>>62785542You aren’t seriously pretending does countries are not buying from Germany are you ?
>>62785570>You aren’t seriously pretending does countries are not buying from Germany are you ?That's not what you argued in >>62785439 though.
>>62785577It quite literally is though ? The guy I replied to said: “ the german military industry is having a real hard time right now.only a few baltic tiny countries still want to buy their stuff, everybody else picks american/korean.“And I said: no ones buying Korean or American So to disprove me you post countries that buy most of their stuff from Germany ?
>>62785580>It quite literally is though ?>No ones buying Korean or American though ?>So to disprove me you post countries that buy most of their stuff from Germany ?Mother of god. If every kraut zoomer has a level of intelligence like you, I can only say the future of krautistan is quite bleak.
>>62785590So let me get this straight, because I have trouble understanding you: in a situation where a country buys 80% from Germany and 20% from Korea and someone says: Germany is fucked they are all buying Korean instead of German. If someone else then says: no one’s buying Korean though. You believe the second guy is wrong and not the first one ? To me that just sounds absolutely retarded but maybe its different for you
>>62785510How much longer until Ukraine gets it?
>>62780654It's literally the opposite. Everyone's buying German, to the point where they're struggling with deliveries.
>gookshill
>>62785598while this point is valid,>>62785580>It quite literally is though ?it quite literally is not>>62785580>And I said: no ones buying Koreanand you are hilariously wrongtwo wrongs don't make a right; that othe anon was wrong about people abandoning German weapons, but at the same time you are wrong in your curious definition of "no one"
>>62785598>So let me get this straight, because I have trouble understanding you>in a situation where a country buys 80% from Germany and 20% from Korea and someone says: Germany is fucked they are all buying Korean instead of German.>You believe the second guy is wrong and not the first one ? What kind of marijuana were you smoking when you're typing this? >To me that just sounds absolutely retarded but maybe its different for youI just want you to explain why you said like >>62785439 instead of obfuscating with your verbose bullshit. Mental retardation is nothing to be ashamed of.
>>62785510Most of those countries are also buying German. Norway, for example, chose Leopards 2s over the K2s, despite buying Korean artillery.
>>62785643Are you actually retarded ? There is nothing verbose or otherwise hard to understand about what I wrote (actually for you it might be) and I already explained it but for you I can dumb this whole conversation down some more: a guy says only small countries buy German and the rest pick Korean/american (which is obviously wrong), so I say no ones buying Korean though (to make that guy angry since it’s also wrong). Then others mention countries that buy Korean (with most of the ones mentioned buying more from Germany than Korea funnily enough), I point out they buy from Germany and then we end up with you not understanding anything. It’s good that you don’t believe mental retardation is something to be ashamed of, wouldn’t want you to feel bad
>>62785649>Most of those countries are also buying GermanThe point is, no one here was interested how those countries are closely tied to Germany until some autist tried to save his face by bludgeoning some irrelevant shit over people.
>>62785668>I was only being retarded on purpose
>>62785637 For you, incase you also have trouble like the other guy (but granted you don’t seem as retarded as the other one)>>62785668
>>62785674I know it must be hard for you but I hope me dumbing it down to the lowest level made it easier for you
>germs triggeredrent fucking free, tumbling into irrelevancy while others rise around them
>>62785683
>>62785689I don’t think you are pretending though
>>62785668>a guy says only small countries buy German and the rest pick Korean/american (which is obviously wrong)Yes.>so I say no ones buying Korean though (to make that guy angry since it’s also wrong).>(to make that guy angry since it’s also wrong).Okay, I see. So you are mentally fucked. Sorry for misunderstanding you.
>>62785694ackshually, I'm saying all this just to make you angry since it’s also wrong
>>62785697You need to do better then
>>62785668>>62785675Was pretending to be retarded all part of your plan?
>>62778067the Italian army bought itfirst proto is supposed to roll out next year iirc
>>62778000It's a tank designed to fight against other tanks when that has been proven to be a fucking meme