>Russian soldier running down a trenchline up near the front >Some sort of strange looking, scopeless rifle in hand with some leather sling>DiesSo what was he carrying? A mosin? Why’s the furniture all weird? Is it a sporterized one? Video below.
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Because its not a mosin, doesnt fucking look like one.Was gonna guess bolt action shotgun but the toz 106 doesnt like that.So im gonna guess its some random bolt action gun hes shooting at drones.Cant tell, your clip is faggularly edited with cuts and its sped up.Niggers tongue my anus
>>62781911Looks like he came straight from the battlefield at Borodino
>>62781911I’m willing to guess it’s a zastava m70 or a Ruger m77 since it has what appears to be a sloped front iron sight but it’s hard to tell
>>62782016How on earth would a Russian mobik get a Ruger rifle? It’s probably some bubba’d mosin. The fact that Russia gives out mosins in 2024 is pure third worlder kino.
its clearly a shotgunt.nogunz yuropean
>>62781827the quality isn't good, but that front site is right at the muzzle, but the way he reloads is more common to a bolt-action, than the brake open action of a 16 gauge. Some sort of hunting rifle maybe?
>>62782118there are bolt operated shotguns, but those are colector items
>>62782105Probably got looted from a gun shop or private collection or it’s a battlefield pick up as there is precedent for civilian hunting rifles being used by the Ukrainian military
>>62781827I think it's a semi-auto shotgun.
>>62782149Nah the Mossberg 395 is reasonably cheap and common, but it also does not look like one.
>>62782105Second world
>>62783330shut the fuck up nerd
>>62781827Probably not a Mosin, definitely a bolt action rifle, but going through all the common models I can't find any with that long of a barrel that has a square-ish front end on the chassis that's a good 6 inches from the tip of the barrel.
>>62781827>>62783657Never mind, I think I found exactly what rifle this is, it's a kar 98k
>>62782105russia actually has a lot of american import guns
>>62782105Russians aren’t that different from us anon… they LOVE American guns and accessories.
>>62783797Always have. Tsarist Russia imported tons of cowboy guns. They even used lever action Winchesters along with American made Mosins.
>>62783662>Rushits burn through all the AK-12’sI sleep>Rushits burn through all the AK-74’sI sleep>Rushits burn through all the AKM’sI sleep>Rushits burn through all the PPSH’sI stir>Rushits burn through all the Mosin’sI sleep>Rushits start to burn through all the KAR-98k’sFOR FUCK SAKE HOW MUCH WILL BE LOST IN THIS POINTLESS FUCKING WAR FUCCKKKKKKKK
>>62784011I can't wait to see drone footage of a Russian contract 1895 Winchester.
>be vatnik>send to war to fight nazis once again!>receive great granpappy's mosin>frontline hovering with terminator drones>blyat!
>>62784046>be vatnik>send to war to fight nazis once again!>receive great grandpappy's kar-98>visible confusion
bayonet charges WHEN
>>62783797How common are AR-15s in Russia? Atleast before sanctions really kicked in.
>>62784093During the '08 invasion of Georgia Puccians found a large stock of Bushmasters that were given to Georgia by the US. They destroyed most of them, but I know there was at least one domestically produced AR at some point, likely cloned from the Bushmaster.
>>62784120Found it. Doubt they made very many and I doubt even less contracts were placed for them.
>>62784093>How common are AR-15s in Russia? Not very but they unironically take up the place the AKM does in the West. AR-15’s are seen as exotic, space guns used by mother Ruzzia’s enemies, but is also seen as kinda cool. Its why so many Wagnerites were seen with AR-15’s during their little chimp out (actual Wagner guys, as in the guys who fought in Syria and Africa, not prisoner meat waves) because the AR-15 is seen as the top of the line luxury, cream of the crop rifle. Even Mr. Pringles (PBUH) body guard were seen sporting them, although they quickly picked up AK’s when the propaganda cameras were rolling.
>>62784128Gross
>>62783330its been over 30 years let it go
>>62782149so was the T55
>>62781827The most logical thing would be a shotgun, as they have been deploying them as their primary squad level drone protection.Because just like with the Anti-Drone Blimps, the Russian military takes a look at all of our shitposts on here and go "Well shit, the military autists said it was a good idea, so it must be true". I'm pretty sure this is how the barn tanks got popular too.
>>62785523Except the """barn tanks""" work perfectly.>noooo look at this webm of one VBIED exploding>please ignore the fact we have no other confirmed losses of tanks with this type of protection
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>>62785523Ukraine’s been fielding shotguns too. Its an awkward, difficult solution but all will be fine once the egg heads catch up.
>>62785525every t-72 turns into a VBIED once hit
>>62785561Seriously, genuinely, unironically, what did Russia mean by this? Why did they put so much damn ammo in that thing?
>>62785563When your logistic is non-existing, you are inclined to stuff your tank with ammo up to the fucking gills so you won't get caught empty on the battlefield. But because of the shit protection and armor quality you will pay dearly for that if you got hit (webm in question related)
>>62785584Normal Russian tanks don't blow up THAT bigly, this is a special case
>>62785547The shotguns being fielded is a really mixed bag. The MoD, in their infinite wisdom, decided to buy a shitload of bullpup turkshit shotguns (Hatsan Escort or some gay shit) that jam half the fucking time. So a lot of units will pool or raise some money buy their own good shotguns from gun shops - the Benelli M4 is particularly highly regarded for this task, though its fucking expensive. Semi is preferred to pump for obvious reasons, though there are even guys who roll with a fucking side by side or whatever shitter they can get their hands on. In those cases its kinda like the shotgun is more of a good luck charm or talisman than any practical protection.Birdshot is completely fine for knocking down drones - they are pretty fucking fragile, a hit to a prop or the battery and they are fucking done. There is a lot of debate/autism about what chokes to use, but realistically you are basically just dumping as much shot in the direction of the drone and praying something hits. A lot of comparisons have been made in west to skeet or trap shooting or bird hunting, but there is one important difference - the FPV tends to be moving much more erratically and is extremely maneuverable, whereas a clay is on a pretty set trajectory and birds tend to fly somewhat predictably and can't turn/move as quick as a FPV drone. There also is a lot of stupid shit about firing nets and such special cartridge for shotgun specifically for the anti drone task, but really, if you are opening up with the shotgun the drones already pretty close, your jammer clearly isn't working, average birdshot is going to be your best bet instead of some expensive gay net shit that probably doesn't reliably deploy. If someone was to dig up the technical data packages for some of those cool auto shotguns like the AA-12 or Pancor Jackhammer or whatever and start bashing out repros they probably would make a shitload of money branding them as close air defense against the drone threat.
>>62785599>ike the AA-12 or Pancor Jackhammer or whatever and start bashing out repros they probably would make a shitload of money branding them as close air defense against the drone threat.The trouble with those is that they have to be kept very clean or they will jam constantly, so probably not ideal for trench warfare.It sounds like the whole situation is a scaled down version of the first attempts at shooting down aeroplanes in the first world war, where all sorts of wacky things were tried before people settled down on Flak because hitting the aeroplane and hitting it quickly became far more important than precise aim shots on a particular point or blowing it to bits with a single shot.
>>62782185>Probably got looted from a gun shop or private collection or it’s a battlefield pick up as there is precedent for civilian hunting rifles being used by the Ukrainian militaryHoly fuck random flashback does anybody remember the videos getting around by a Ukrainian sniper early in 2022 that was using a timber stock hunting rifle? Might have been a Blaser?
>>62785561what a glorious toss
>>62784026Kino of a mobik using a mg42 when?
>>62785779Kino already exists of Ukrainians using MG3s on mobiks. Nature healing on the steppes etc. Catch up.
>>62785685I remember and found it. Sauer 100https://www.twitter.com/RomanTrokhymets/status/1660362215705268226
>>62785779I'll do you one better.https://files.catbox.moe/kcb5jd.mp4
>>62785669Thought running dirty and minimal cleaning was a selling point of AA12.
>>62785853Fucking based anon, and not as esoteric a weapon choice but still good on the dude.
>>62785792Nah, mg42, not he mg3.>>62785879Kek, but larping doesn't count.
>>62784037Most extant Russian contract Winchesters are in Finland I thinkSo many bubba'd examples you're going to cry after seeing the website of an average Finnish gun store
>>62784037Not going to happen, most of those 1895s are in museums or movie studio arsenals. Civilians won't sacrifice anything as valuable.>>62784093I work in a gun store here, so I'd say they're quite common, especially among the gun sports crowd and especially in the recent years since a couble of russian companies have started making their own ARs. Kurbatov, SWC, CGNL/Adar, and so on.>>62784128That's a Molot AR, they still list it in their catalogs, as far as I recall.However they're not as common, really. And right now Molot has introduced an AK based rifle with upper/lower disassembly similar to AR platform.>>62784120Soviets had tested some guns captured in Vietnam, so AR system was not that much of a big gunmaking mystery.>>62782016Very unlikely. Like, what's the point? If you shoot drones, go for a shotgun, get youreslf some sort of a goose blaster. And if you want a proper sniper rifle, there are superior pieces avalible - government issue SV-98s, privately bought guns by Lobaev or Orsis or whoever else is making sniper rifles today.
>>62784037>>62785779They've already been seen with DP-27s before.
>>62787178>Soviets had tested some guns captured in Vietnam, so AR system was not that much of a big gunmaking mystery.Right but if you take a 1960s AR and then manufacture it around the M4 pattern you kind of miss some of the details. For example the original AR design only had feed ramps on the barrel extension, but when the M4 was shortened from the M16 the upper receiver got feed ramps cut into them too. And the ramps on the barrel extension are cut differently to match the angle.I can't think of any real world example right now but trying to reverse engineering off a Vietnam era M16 would be less likely than just importing a batch of 10 or so modern ARs and reverse engineering those.
>>62787259>Right but if you take a 1960s AR and then manufacture it around the M4 pattern you kind of miss some of the detailsRight, and then there were 1990s reforms, fall of soviet bloc and freedom to buy guns from the West, including ARs. Lots of FSB specops have been using western gear in 2000s since our own counterparts were kinda subpar back then.>trying to reverse engineering off a Vietnam era M16 would be less likely than just importing a batch of 10 or so modern ARs and reverse engineering those.Correct. And that's how it happened. A couple of western modern ARs, a batch of Norinko's abominations, the georgian Bushmasters - there was a plenty of material to learn from.I wish we would actually import more Winchester M70 rifles before it all began, then the situation with getting a proper CRF rifle wouldn't be so dire. Nobody makes CRF rifles here, and import from Europe has mostly dried out over the sanctions. Czechs are still exporting rifles here, but they ceased the manufacturing of 550s.
>>62787178>Not going to happen, most of those 1895s are in museums or movie studio arsenals. Civilians won't sacrifice anything as valuableI don't think they'll have much of a choice if they're in Russia and the government show up to take them. Arguing with the goons sounds a lot like volunteering for meat wave duty.
>>62787319>I don't think they'll have much of a choiceDon't be stupid, russian government is not omnipotent, and civilian gun ownership is not really a thing they want to kill right now. Gun control doesn't mean gun prohibition, and government is quite in control right now, or so it seems to them. It's not 1918 anymore and there's enough industrial power to supply the troops without resorting to confiscating weapons. Unless we're talking about people who lost their gun ownership rights for various reasons like criminal prosecution (criminals aren't allowed to own arms) or declining health (there are some health-related regulations, a friend of mine is not considered healthy enough anymore so he had either to sell his shotgun or surrender it to government for scrapping). Right now there are tales from the news that the government is taking the shotguns they confiscated from poachers and send them to the front for drone defense. So, expect to see people on the front with MP-155s, Mossbergs and other guns like that.
>>62783662>ruslims now have to use WW2 looted rifles
>>62781827>>62781834A berdan rifle converted to a shotgun?
>>62785561holy shit that's beautiful
>>62781827>>62781834Dude was probably the last surviving serf of the DNR peasant army.
>>62784026But you can't access russian stock anyway.That's what Vickers got in trouble..5 years for building machine guns.20 years for breaking arms embargo with russia.
>>62785561perfect
>>62785597The copecage could have amplified the blast.
>>62791264Not really. It made for a great spectacle though.
>>62783662Not a chance, way too long
>>62786707>Nah, mg42, not he mg3.Is an MG42/59 close enough? It's basically just an MG42 re-chambered in 7.62, and there have been pics of them in Ukraine.
>>62784026So... how long before russians start using bows and arrows?
>>62782185Ratslayer?
>>62784128Please tell me it had bigger magazines
