I don't know shit about guns but I think they're cool. Which one is more cool the Ak 47 or the AK 74?
>>62784293AK-74 fixed every issue the AK-47 had. Turd worlders were stupid for not moving to it.
>>62784293AK-47 because 5.45 production stateside is probably still 10 years away at the quickest.If not buying one, still the 47 because 30 cal.
The AK-74 is, by pretty much every measure, a better gun. However a 7.62-slinging AK definitely has some cool-factor going for it, and I personally think the AKM is one of the neatest looking guns ever made.
I don't know shit about guns. let's say you fired a SINGLE bullet from a ak 47 and it hit someone's hand would it kill them like are they like really powerful like on video games
>>62784411No guns don't have stats. You either get a hole in you somewhere important or you don't. Simple as.
Short barreled (and "pistol") 7.62x39' absolutely fuck and hard - as cool as a 5.45 krink is a Yugo M92 or similar is infinitely better - 7.62x39 doesn't suffer from short barrels (and also doesnt profit from longer barrels)
>>62784458is a ak 47 strong enough to go through your body or will it get stuck in your hand. What about a DSR 50 that sniper rifle from black ops 2. If you got shot with that in the hand what would happen
>>62784490>>62784411Why the fuck are you pretending to be a retard online on Monday night?
>>62784499why are you calling me retarded
OP please tell me you're just fucking around right now
>>62784504yes I'm off 4g currently . Go steelers
>>62784385Swoops look at me, actually making a serious post in a shitter thread. Silly me.
>>62784293AK-103
>>62784510>bored phonefaggot makes intentionally garbage threadimagine the instantaneous increase in board QOL if mobile IPs were banned
BerylIt's actually in 5.56x45 (the superior round)
>>62784411Yes retard a single bullet of almost any caliber would kill someone the majority of the time regardless of caliberAk onetaps are real
>>62784314what issues?
5.45mmbetter trajectorydon't given anything else up
>>62784926>don't given anything else upyou're wrongin firefights people take cover, 30 cal is going to punch through more effectively than .22even vegetation fucks with .22
>>62784936this is true, even grass can throw off 556 by like 10 inches at 100~150 yards. 7.62 is ideal for finland and wooded areas.
>>62784944>finland and wooded areas.what do they teach fin recruits about hitting russian armor with AT?something like>run for your life because the gunner will start sporadically firing and turn all the trees into airburst shrapnel
>>62784490both AK47 and AK74 would go straight through the hand, possibly doing much more damage than just a hole through the hand if fired at close range. Due to velocity, it could kinda explode your hand, either blow a larger hole than the bullet, or blow off your hand depending on if it hit bone, exact bullet type, barrel length (velocity) etc. this goes for pretty much any gun, but handguns have less velocity so they mostly make clean simple holes. No you wouldn't die unless you're a retard
>>62784961makes sense, but what does that have to do with 7.62 and 5.45
>>62784490DSR 50 or anything in a full powered rifle cartridge or shotgun would blow the hand off, still wouldn't die
>>62784936steel core 5.45mm will penetrate hard cover more than 7.62x39mm.
>>627849707n6? or some obscure loading that russia cant afford?
>>62784974allthe higher velocity of 5.45mm will mean it'll penetrate more hard cover than any 7.62x39mm, assuming similar core design. velocity and sectional density trumps bullet weight (within reason).to beat 5.45mm here with a 7.62mm projectile, you need to go to 7.62x54mmR.
>>62784979what happens when someone makes the same bullet design for 7.62?
>>62784895Range/accuracy, recoil, terminal ballistics, and amount of ammo a soldier could carry.
>>62784533>mobile IPsAnon, I'm sorry, but in the year 2024 of our lord J.M.B. you can't be that illiterate.
>>62784293>Ak 47
>>62784314It made no sense for turdies to move to it though. AKM is fine
>>62784314>Turd worlders were stupid for not moving to itMore like the Soviets didn't want them using it
>>62784314The USSR was giving away AKMs because they were being replaced with AK-74s, they have never given away 5.45 rifles at the same scale because it's their current service cartridge.
>>62784293personally prefer the 74 for a very simple reason. 5.45 is stupidly flat shooting in terms of trajectory, so it makes zeroing it at realistic engagement distances a piece of piss. zero the optic at 100m, and it will be fine out to around 300m at least.
>>62784293AKM because you can’t find cheap 7n6 anymore.
>>62784979Hard cover sure but it sucks against soft cover unironically. Bush will fuck up 5.45
