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I don't know shit about guns but I think they're cool. Which one is more cool the Ak 47 or the AK 74?
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>>62784293
AK-74 fixed every issue the AK-47 had. Turd worlders were stupid for not moving to it.
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>>62784293
AK-47 because 5.45 production stateside is probably still 10 years away at the quickest.
If not buying one, still the 47 because 30 cal.
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The AK-74 is, by pretty much every measure, a better gun. However a 7.62-slinging AK definitely has some cool-factor going for it, and I personally think the AKM is one of the neatest looking guns ever made.
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I don't know shit about guns. let's say you fired a SINGLE bullet from a ak 47 and it hit someone's hand would it kill them like are they like really powerful like on video games
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>>62784411
No guns don't have stats. You either get a hole in you somewhere important or you don't. Simple as.
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Short barreled (and "pistol") 7.62x39' absolutely fuck and hard - as cool as a 5.45 krink is a Yugo M92 or similar is infinitely better - 7.62x39 doesn't suffer from short barrels (and also doesnt profit from longer barrels)
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>>62784458
is a ak 47 strong enough to go through your body or will it get stuck in your hand. What about a DSR 50 that sniper rifle from black ops 2. If you got shot with that in the hand what would happen
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>>62784490
>>62784411
Why the fuck are you pretending to be a retard online on Monday night?
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>>62784499
why are you calling me retarded
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OP please tell me you're just fucking around right now
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>>62784504
yes I'm off 4g currently . Go steelers
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>>62784385
Swoops look at me, actually making a serious post in a shitter thread. Silly me.
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>>62784293
AK-103
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>>62784510
>bored phonefaggot makes intentionally garbage thread
imagine the instantaneous increase in board QOL if mobile IPs were banned
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Beryl
It's actually in 5.56x45 (the superior round)
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>>62784411
Yes retard a single bullet of almost any caliber would kill someone the majority of the time regardless of caliber
Ak onetaps are real
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>>62784314
what issues?
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5.45mm
better trajectory
don't given anything else up
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>>62784926
>don't given anything else up
you're wrong
in firefights people take cover, 30 cal is going to punch through more effectively than .22
even vegetation fucks with .22
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>>62784936
this is true, even grass can throw off 556 by like 10 inches at 100~150 yards.

7.62 is ideal for finland and wooded areas.
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>>62784944
>finland and wooded areas.
what do they teach fin recruits about hitting russian armor with AT?
something like
>run for your life because the gunner will start sporadically firing and turn all the trees into airburst shrapnel
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>>62784490
both AK47 and AK74 would go straight through the hand, possibly doing much more damage than just a hole through the hand if fired at close range. Due to velocity, it could kinda explode your hand, either blow a larger hole than the bullet, or blow off your hand depending on if it hit bone, exact bullet type, barrel length (velocity) etc. this goes for pretty much any gun, but handguns have less velocity so they mostly make clean simple holes. No you wouldn't die unless you're a retard
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>>62784961
makes sense, but what does that have to do with 7.62 and 5.45
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>>62784490
DSR 50 or anything in a full powered rifle cartridge or shotgun would blow the hand off, still wouldn't die
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>>62784936
steel core 5.45mm will penetrate hard cover more than 7.62x39mm.
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>>62784970
7n6?
or some obscure loading that russia cant afford?
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>>62784974
all
the higher velocity of 5.45mm will mean it'll penetrate more hard cover than any 7.62x39mm, assuming similar core design. velocity and sectional density trumps bullet weight (within reason).

to beat 5.45mm here with a 7.62mm projectile, you need to go to 7.62x54mmR.
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>>62784979
what happens when someone makes the same bullet design for 7.62?
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>>62784895
Range/accuracy, recoil, terminal ballistics, and amount of ammo a soldier could carry.
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>>62784533
>mobile IPs
Anon, I'm sorry, but in the year 2024 of our lord J.M.B. you can't be that illiterate.
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>>62784293
>Ak 47
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>>62784314
It made no sense for turdies to move to it though. AKM is fine
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>>62784314
>Turd worlders were stupid for not moving to it
More like the Soviets didn't want them using it
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>>62784314
The USSR was giving away AKMs because they were being replaced with AK-74s, they have never given away 5.45 rifles at the same scale because it's their current service cartridge.
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>>62784293
personally prefer the 74 for a very simple reason. 5.45 is stupidly flat shooting in terms of trajectory, so it makes zeroing it at realistic engagement distances a piece of piss. zero the optic at 100m, and it will be fine out to around 300m at least.
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>>62784293
AKM because you can’t find cheap 7n6 anymore.
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>>62784979
Hard cover sure but it sucks against soft cover unironically. Bush will fuck up 5.45



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