Is the North Korea thing a nothingburger? Seems like they are still just firing KN-23 and Bulsae-4 like they have been for a long time now.
>>62789576They seem to be generally used in rear line roles. It is significant because it's a major and likely sustainable way for the russians to deal with the massive manpower shortages that come with their horrendous losses. Taking nork slaves by the trainload is so much more efficient than trying to herd africans onto a plane voluntarily.
>>62789576>bulsae chadsimagine being this thirdie in picrel and cheering on malnourished dog eaters because your mudslime shitholes are getting mogged by jews lmao
>>62789606>They seem to be generally used in rear line rolesproof?, havent seen anything since the announceent.
>>62789576>retarded post by queroz...>checks twitter>he's included in my UBO filtersyeah
The fact that they’re being issued Russian uniforms and gears tells me they’re simply leased bodies and nothing to do with the Nork military. NK leases out slave labor all over and that’s all this is. I bet you none of them will be found with Nork military insignia or papers. Everyone swallows this "sending troops" narrative without question.
>>62789676As much as they say these guys won't desert because of what the government might do to their families, this war is the perfect opportunity. Russian corpses lay out to rot for months or years, who's to say that any of the myriad Asiatic corpses in Russian uniforms isn't an unaccounted for nork? If they disappear, it's probably because they got got. Not like anyone on their side is collecting bodies to double check.
It’s not nothing.But it’s not really something either
>>62789676>Get given uniforms and a gun>Yeah these will be rearline logisticsLmao.
>>62790177>thinks they'd be allowed to be issued ammunition
>>62789676>>62790133yes but being a leased body sent to work abroad is a special privilege reserved only for the most trusted. they could be average draftees sent to be meatwaves but I suspect they aren't. they probably aren't remfs either, but they're going to positions in Russia to free up Russians for offensive operations, and Russia currently has the initiative. it's a decent counter to the kursk offensive which had the goal of tying down russian troops otherwise headed to Ukraine, nork units will free up units from quiet sectors to head to the "eastern front."in that sense it is important since 10k norks means 10k more Russians on offense.
>>62790554>get stuck in a shitty expeditionary meatgrinder>your best buddy offers to staff your bases for you so you can free up manpower for the frontIs this nigga really gonna get his ass Amaris'd?
>>62789676>Garbage takes>Talks unironically about "narratives"Yep, that's a /pol/tard
>>62790656Imagine believing something so spastic. Americans aren't evil. They just want to buy your stuff and sell you theirs. If you do that and your human rights isn't so fucked up that it makes their voters vomit while reading their papers about it you're good. Places like China and Russia want to actually take your stuff for nothing and humiliate you while they do so. Of all the would be hegemons, the yanks are literally the best.
>>62790647Everyone who has read a book and witnessed an election understands the power of narratives my sweet summer child
>>62790665Yeah but /pol/niggers obsess about them and think they can change reality through the power of meme magic.
>>62790656Then why do you want to move there, Paco?
>>62789576Do you remember the guy who defected to south korea after stealing an UAZ (or whatever they are called in nk) and running through the Joint Security Area?, that guy was posted near de dmz these are the best, best trained, best equipped and most political reliant ones, his health was shit, including a worm infestation only seen in third world countries.Their special forces are fanatical, crazy and retarded, but the rest is a mix of underfed, undertrained and unequipped slave labor for projects and agriculture, they are not going to do shit, the russians will use them or as a construction troops or as the first meat wave on assaults like they did with the dombaweans, central asians and such.
>>62790656fuck off spastic
>>62790734how do we know these aren't all SOF? the SOF branch has an estimated 200k soldiers, it's entirely possible that every single nork deployed to Russia is special ops.
>>62789606>sustainableis Kim gonna send over another 12k every couple weeks then? At least every month?
>>62790793How is that cost effective for Kim? He ought to be sending over useless retards in exchange for technology and food, not getting his best guys massacred in the next vuhledar chimpout
>>62790793just because you call them special doesn't make them any good
>>62790827>100 deaths a dayriiiiiiight>The Norks will only have a fraction of thatthe claim is that the Norks let Russia deal with manpower shortages, as such the plan is for Koreans to make up for Russian casualties. Therefore counting only the casualties to Koreans is missing the point, they need to also make up for the Russian losses if they are meant to be the manpower solution
>>62790635I for one welcome our new okay corral overlord
>>62790843The Norks should serve as a force multiplier with their Bulsae NLOS missiles and other impressive gear that the Russians didn't think of in the past 30 years.
>>62790793NK calls almost all their light infantry "special forces" to pad numbers but they are not, at least not the same training and equipment level that the dudes who did the crazy ass infiltrations back in the 90's, they are mostly "diversionary troops", they are expected to be air dropped/boat inserted behind enemy lines and try to cause some chaos behind enemy lines for a while on an one-way ticket to hell. Like the vdv on Hostomel but this time done in purporse, but they are not even at the level of 100% nk sof.
>>62790827norks are just gonna be in kursk, which isn't as intense as the front within ukraine. it'll still be high intensity warfare, just not as bad, nor for as long.
>>62790919rightexcept the whole line about "the norks are only fighting in Kursk therefor this is LEGAL by the puccias laws xaxaxa" is irrelevant vatnik delusional cope. why the fuck would you repeat it?
>>62790857>REEEEE stop making fun of the designated punching bag factionno
>>62790843Putin confirmed that the Russian casualties are 10k per month. He obviously has the exact data on his troops that we can't see. Just ignore what he says on Ukraine's losses cause there's no way for him to know what theirs are.
>>62790919Between you and me I strongly suspect that the kursk front is actually more intense than the donbass front, Putin has been throwing everything he has at it for a while and has just recently pushed back the date by which it MUST be liberated yet again, this time to next February
>>62791002>He obviously has the exact data on his troopsOh, anon, you're adorable. That's the best part, he gets heavily redacted data made to appease him. So it's even worse in reality.
>>62791022Makes sense given the figure I've been working with is 30k casualties a month
>>62791022And yet Russians are still gaining territory...
>>62791043So Napoleon won in the invasion of Russia? He kept gaining territory
>>62791055Is that why they had to beg Kim for troops? How is Kursk doing by the way?
>>62791055You are literally in a thread about Russia begging North Korea for meat you absolute retard.
>>62791055>don't care obviously about taking casualties.just like not caring about bleeding out makes one invincible
>>62791084So they don't care about taking casualties since they can just get infinite Koreans to replace them :)
>>62791103and then jesus comes back again and fights trump in the ring and wins!
>>62790665>my sweet summer childYou have to go back.
>>62791103any military strategy that depends on the outcome of a democratic election in a foreign country is a bad strategy
>>62791159>Even if dems steal the election again that will just mean they will keep on trucking as usual>>>/x/
>>62790656There has never been a better, more benevolent world superpower. I know many bad things have been done by americans, but it's true
>>62791055not caring about it isn't the same as not feeling it You can say that you don't care about getting robbed but that doesn't mean your stuff isn't gone. You'll care a lot the moment you want to use it and need it and it isn't there anymore
>>62789576It allows Russia to move more Russians to the front replacing border gaurds with norks.It's not great, not terrible.
>>62790667>the power of meme magicI prefer the term "psychic gestalt reality-warping"
>>62791369OI!WE'ZE A KULTURE, NOT A KOSTUME
>>62790662>Of all the would be hegemons, the yanks are literally the best.French would be much better, they would actually enforce the world order and the use of a coherent measurement system.
>>62791043Remember how Nazi Germany was gaining territory but their frontline infantry was so worn down by attrition they were reconstructing frontline units with rear echelon guys and in turn replacing those with the fresh conscripts?If you take terrain but lose the men necessary to hold it, you're just betting on the war ending before the consequences bite you in the ass.
>>62791428Anon comes from an alternate timeline where we use imperial all over the world.
>>62790665>confirms he doesn't know what he's talking about
>>62789676>Everyone swallows this "sending troops" narrative without question.We're talking about the Russian military. "Sending troops" and "Leasing bodies" is a distinction without a difference.
>>62791002>Putin says>Putin confirmed>actually expects anyone to take this at face valueMental health is like a myth in Russia, isn't it?
>>62791002In the early 2023 Pentagon leaks there were manipulated versions of the US estimates of losses, apparently for soothing a Russian audience. The manipulated versions claimed 61-71.5k KIA on Ukraine's side. The original estimates were 16-17.5k. For Russia's KIA the manipulated version claimed 16-17.5k, the original 35.5-43.5k. So Russia's KIA were undercounted by a ratio of 2.36 and Ukraine's KIA overcounted by a ratio of 3.96.If we use these ratios on the numbers Putin gave, we get 12642 casualties per month for Ukraine and 23582 casualties per month for Russia.
>>62791055Go back to the Napoleon example. At some point you just run out of soldiers, and lose all the territory you conquered.Napoleon basically marched into Russia unopposed and won all his battles, and at some point he realize he barely had enough soldiers left to make it back.>>62791428Uhhh just look at how their former colonies are doing. Portugal and Dpain's former colonies are mostly shitholes, same for former Dutch colonies, Belgian colonies and French colonies.Former British colonies are doing pretty good in comparaison, along with former Japanese colonies.
>>62790975>>62790857Oh, shit, wrong board. That's what I get for posting at 4 in the fucking morning.
>>62792491Vatniggers always project.
>>62790635Stefan Amaris did nothing wrong.
>>62790793One has to question how 'special' are those special operation forces? Maybe they are merely Koreans above certain height? That IS pretty plausible considering North Korea's history of food shortages.
>>62793159Cue that joke about Irak's republican guards being the soldiers who were issued a pair of boots
>>62790554>in that sense it is important since 10k norks means 10k more Russians on offense.Still only gives a week of casualties.
>>62793229Boots? Russian mobiks dream of being issued boots.
>>62790793>have a single decent force in country>have to rule over millions that could rebel at any time due to shit conditions>"lemme just send them over as cannon fodder cus monke asked"best they're getting is a handful of vets that know russian and slaves, anything else is pure retardation by kimmy on a level i dont believe credible
>>62791002this war already showed that putin is often misled by his goons, which is why he often has to ""reform"" upper management, he also has no advantage in being honest, can't really trust him for anything but propaganda and having the power to call off the war
>>62789576Some "Bulsae Chads" have already been captured. Expect news drop tomorrow, or in the coming few days. t. knower
>>62793602I remember that lie being spread months ago and although I don’t remember the specifics I do recall researching the source and finding out that, as anyone who is not mind-broken on shill propaganda would already know, that, NO Putin did NOT “accidentally” indicate any number or range of numbers of Russian casualties, even tangentially — it was just the usual clickbait propaganda. The fact is NO ONE knows outside of the Kremlin was Russia’s losses are. Also, NO ONE knows what Ukrainian losses are, PERIOD. It was extensively reported in the media how Ukraine literally didn’t keep track of their own losses and had to use estimates / guesses to figure out the most likely figures. Maybe the Russians are also doing that for all we know. From a highly bureaucratic Western standpoint it’s hard to believe but it’s a fact in those countries. Remember this each time you see anyone put out numbers for losses.
>>62793609I bet there won’t be any Nork military insignia or papers and that they’ll just be slave laborers who ended up on a really bad work assignment.
>>62790635That is an interesting question... so, who would be Kerensky?
>>62790635Well there's an interesting thought.
>>62794165I really doubt the Kremlin is getting accurate numbers. Everyone along the chain has multiple incentives to lie. They need to have some casualties since there's a perverse incentive to prove they're actually going out there and fighting, but they can't have too many because then they look bad, but they also need to actually replace them so they can't be too low and also sometimes groups of soldiers go out and just don't come back and nobody had eyes on them so even the immediate commander doesn't know for sure if they got droned or fucked off or are just lost.
>>62791002Please just kill yourself.
>>62790793Special in this context to doesn't mean elite, it means specialized.
>>62791773no i dont
>>62793114Anon, all the former British colonies in Africa are shit too. Quebec meanwhile is alright. And then there is India. Anglo colonies are succesful only where they replaced the natives with whites.
>>62795468go read up on the last three years of WW2 thenkeep an eye out for words like "Luftwaffe field division"
>>62795539they were not gaining ground the last three years of the war
>>62795548so did the battle of the bulge just not happen in your version of the war or what?
>>62789576It's a nothingburger among them all. Thousands of turkmens, kyrgyzis, tadjiks and whatever else steppe meat floods russia for years and no one even noticed. But as soon as few half-starved mongoloids from a funny country joins in it's suddenly all the rage, yeah, sure. Norks are a funny boogeyman and ukies need every bit of hype they can squeeze to keep support alive, there's nothing more to it, and nothing less.
>>62791002>He obviously has the exact data on his troopsNo one knows the exact numbers in russia, that's the point. Half of the russian army is a fucking black hole where people only go in never out. And absolutely no one knows what happened to them – are they dead, are they alive, are they in slavery, are they hostage waiting for payouts from their relatives, are they being tortured just for fun it, did they bribe their commander and left, did they ever exist in the first place? No one fucking knows and too many are invested to keep it that way. Just read the One Soldier's War to get a picture and accept as a fact that it is way worse this time around.>>62793602>which is why he often has to ""reform"" upper managementThat's not how that kleptocracy works at all. No one actually cares about lies, everyone lies, if you can't see through that's on you. What happens is Shoigu gets rich, fat and bold off the war profits. Shoigu gets full on his farts and starts to criticize Chemesov, Chemesov immediately shows Shoigu his place by booting him out of the high place and fucking obliterating his whole clique out of power, replacing them his own people instead. Next logic step would be for a Putin to come out of delirium for a moment and realize how fucking influential Chemezov really are before proceeding to walk him out of the window, or rather just his seconds in command as a show of force, considering what a whimp Putin actually are.>>62794165>NO ONE knows what Ukrainian losses areWas around 30k KIA last time I checked, maybe closer to 35-40k by now. And additional like 10-15k MIA as a convenient way to fidget the number around without outright lying. Ukies don't publicize their casualties, that much is true, but lesser known fact is that they don't really hide or obscure them either. Local communities are free to post about their fallen and you are free to count.
>>62795167Sirskiy. With Budanov being his Blake.
>>62793584>have to rule over millions that could rebel at any time due to shit conditionsNo way. They've been doing this for 70 years now. They know how to keep the peasants in check
>>62793609>Bulsae ChadsWhat's that?
>>62789606>it's a major and likely sustainable way for the russians to deal with the massive manpower shortages that come with their horrendous losses.Not really because the North Koreans can cut off that supply of manpower at literally any time.Also North Korea has a population of 26 million and already has to commit huge numbers of troops to guarding the frontier with South Korea, so that drastically limits how many men can realistically be sent even in ideal circumstances.>>62790133>As much as they say these guys won't desert because of what the government might do to their familiesThat's been true quite literally since the beginning it still hasn't stopped defections. As a matter of fact, the Ministry of State Security arrested over a hundred people attempting to defect just a few hours ago.https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/dozens-north-koreans-defectors-caught-by-secret-police-vanish-says-rights-group-2024-10-31/
>>62790647>Guy makes a good point.>Seething leftist comes out of nowhere to screech about /pol/.When will these plebbit transplants go the fuck back?
>>62796333If anyone calls an opinion a "take", you should immediately disregard that poster
I honestly and unironically rate North Korea above Russia in terms of military strength and not by a small margin.
Do you think teashop girl eventually got married and had kids? Do you think she's happy? I still think about her over a decade later.
>>62790734I actually wonder how NK could ever have even a single defector. The only thing you're ever told as a NK citizen is how you're living in the best country in the world, and any daily discomfort you may have is only due to SK who hate you because you have it so good and they have it so much worse. That is the only narrative possibly capable of existing there. What did that guy know that the absolute authoritarian state didn't block out?
>>62796506It's not like the people have never heard of the existence of the outside world, there's plenty of tourists or whatever you wanna call the dudes who go to NK and secretly make videos
>>62796506There is no such thing as complete information control.Maybe he had an illegal radio, maybe he worked in the fields in China and saw what thins were like there, maybe he heard about it form a smuggler, maybe a piece of propaganda misfired and he thought he had a shot at a "decadent life' like they have in the south. The Sorks are probably actively trying to convince the locals to overthrow the Kims, who knows what's happening on that front.Maybe he even saw what was going on around him and figured it can't be any worse on the other side of the fence.
>>62796413Her sons are building pic rel
>>62796506the sorks smuggle in Kpop and drama to subvert the population
>>62795836>Was around 30k KIA last time I checked, maybe closer to 35-40k by now.58524 KIA per ualosses.>10-15k MIA55k MIA per Ukrainian cabinet.https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-considers-55-000-citizens-as-missing-persons/
