Hi, anons. Looking for firsthand experience for >>62830326. I just want to know what the workload is like. Will I be swamped if I only take one course?

>>62833998
Why the fuck is the Denver Coast Guard Office refusing to use email or text and they only call me when my schedule doesn't permit then don't answer my call backs
How the fuck am I going to join, do I have to do Salt Lake, Albuquerque, Phoenix? Wtf is this shit, I told them I work nights and its hard for me to field calls during business hours.

>>62834088
>do I have to do Salt Lake, Albuquerque, Phoenix?
I had to call multiple Navy offices to find one to take me in. I am in Texas btw. The Houston office never responded, Austin was wishy-washy, San Antonio said "come on over". He got me to MEPs under a month. I am the multiple packets guy. Here's the genius the Navy told me. She said, since CG is DHS, they system is different from DoD in terms of MEPs info and the transfer. I went to MEPs for CG, passed, then called my Navy 04 recruiter and she sent me the transfer paper. The CG never saw the transfer because they are separate from the DoD's info. So right now, I am in the limbo time between the package due dates for both. I have a big choice come February since they both make their OCS decisions literally at the same time. That's how it's done, anons. The Marine vet told me to play them against themselves. It damn worked.

>>62834131
Well this is enlisted side for me not an OCS packet so I was hoping they'd work with me more.
I live in BFE western Colorado so I can't just show up to an office easily, it's kinda frustrating me especially since I'm about to get furloughed due to the winter drying up my work and I'd like to secure something before that

Will Project 2025 bring the Coast Guard to Taiwan like they say?

>>62834088
If you don't want it hard enough then give up and pick a different branch. They work during work hours and a lot of the process is 10x faster to hash out over phone calls.

>>62835091
>will shit that means nothing that no one knows shit about do xyz
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Who volunteers to be a recruiter? They have the option to be an instructor or embassy security and they chose recruiter? Describe the kind of personality that pursues this.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2024/11/06/marine-recruiter-arrested-for-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-minor/

>>62836386
being a drill instructor is a tough fucking job with no free time. also a lot dont even volunteer anymore they get orders and dont have a choice.

>>62836392
>>62836386
HSST aside, I've never met a single person who volunteered to be a recruiter that wasn't an obvious pedo.
Just like priests and such, those types of jobs where one would be around kids attract those types of people.

>>62834088
Legitimately, just show up to their office. CG recruiters get swamped with not only enlisting inquiries, but also Officer applicants as well. Showing up to their office forced them to either have a meeting with you or schedule one in person. Unironically quit your job if it becomes to hard to schedule, the coast guard is 100% more fun, better paying, and a better experience then what you probably have going on with employment.

>>62836386
E6's who don't want to be drill sergeants. So typically the less motivated more selfish types.

>>62833998
I’m considering joining the military, but don’t know if I can due to the medications I take. Any input? Has anyone here weened themselves off of certain medications before enlisting?

>>62836930
This question can only be answered if you explain why you’re taking medication, and what it’s for.

>>62836952
Antidepressants. Mainly for stress and intrusive thoughts.

>>62836978
You need to be “clean” (lack of a better term) for one year (AF, CG, and SF may require two) and have a psychiatrist say you are “cured” (no longer in need of meds) before a waiver can be required. You are automatically disqualified from any military service if you’ve been hospitalized/institutionalized for mental health reasons.

>>62836991
*can be acquired.
Fucking phone posting, this keyboard is trash.

>>62836991
>You are automatically disqualified from any military service if you’ve been hospitalized/institutionalized for mental health reasons.


Genesis really fucked the game up for new guys. I was in the funny farm 3 times before I joined, but just never told my recruiter or MEPS.

>>62836200
I want it, I'm frustrated they never leave a message or anything and when I call they don't answer. It's hard to schedule shit.
>>62836682
It's a 9 hour drive over the mountains with ice and snow already there. I'd like to at least schedule it before wasting my time finding out I ended up wasting 18 hours because I happen to come on a leave day

>>62837322
Okay, step two is find a closer recruitment office of any branch and play the game with them(pretend you’re interested in that branch) to get you to MEPs(this is where the biggest problems for enlistment would appear—medical issues for waivers, and pretty much any error that requires a waiver). After getting a clean MEPs, bother the CG endlessly and mention you’ve already went through MEPs. They will have you come into the branch and sign over the MEPs information to them. You should already have been ghosting the branch you used to get to MEPs by now, and you’ve probably taken the ASVAB by this point. Continue enlistment process with CG. If you do need waivers, DO NOT STAY WITH THE BRANCH YOU WERE USING as waivers earned in one branch DO NOT transfer to other branches—start the waiver process with the CG as they have to be the ones to accept your waiver. DO NOT let the branch you’re using get you to swear in at MEPs as that means you’ll be enlisting in that branch.

Do not feel bad for using another branch for any reason, military service is 4/6/8/10/20 years of your life and you want to be spending it in a branch/job you wanted.

>>62837316
Genesis is a pain in the ass but it makes sense why the military doesn’t want to give gun training to mentally unwell people.

>>62837322
If it's that far from you need to look up all the documents you need to enlist then bring them with you. Enlisting usually isn't a one stop shop, but it can almost be if you come prepared.

Also they may not be answering your calls because they may not be at the office when you call. Recruiters don't just sit at the office all day waiting for recruits. They could be dealing with other recruits, actively out in the field recruiting at events, or doing all kinds of other shit. If they aren't picking up, it's usually because they are busy. It's actually a really shitty job.

>>62837322
See if the recruiting station has an email instead, might be easier than trying to coordinate calls across time zones and work schedules.

>>62837427
recruiters barely ever read emails. They must just include emails as a formality because recruiters only respond via texts or calls.

>>62837402
>it makes sense why the military doesn’t want to give gun training to mentally unwell people.

They may as well just disband all combat arms if that's the case. I don't disagree that mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed in, but we also need to acknowledge that mental illness isn't always permanent. Depression comes and goes, anxiety can worked through or treated, and most people aren't suicidal forever. It just sucks because I know I'm not the only who got in like this, but we're basically in a catch-22 where if we talk to BH for any reason ever we're done for because they'll dig all that shit up with the new system.

A lot of people don't get treatment because BH will pull you off the line or whatever duty you're in as soon as you talk to them for anything. If you have a problem once you're in talk to a civilian professional not a military one.

>>62837402
>Okay, step two is find a closer recruitment office of any branch and play the game with them(pretend you’re interested in that branch) to get you to MEPs(this is where the biggest problems for enlistment would appear—medical issues for waivers, and pretty much any error that requires a waiver).
Did this
> You should already have been ghosting the branch you used to get to MEPs by now, and you’ve probably taken the ASVAB by this point. Continue enlistment process with CG. If you do need waivers, DO NOT STAY WITH THE BRANCH YOU WERE USING as waivers earned in one branch DO NOT transfer to other branches
Ghosted the shit out of the navy after how they bait and switched me at MEPS and tried to force me to sign to be a chef with a 97 AFQT. Told them to fuck right off
>>62837416
>If it's that far from you need to look up all the documents you need to enlist then bring them with you. Enlisting usually isn't a one stop shop, but it can almost be if you come prepared.
Yeah I know, done the process and got everything on hand in a folder ready to go
>Also they may not be answering your calls because they may not be at the office when you call.
Yeah, I'm more frustrated they won't leave a message when they call me then them not answering.
>>62837427
>See if the recruiting station has an email instead, might be easier than trying to coordinate calls across time zones and work schedules.
See I initially emailed them and they told me to not email them and only reach them via phone, so I texted them, they never texted back but call me at random hours when I'm never available, never leave a voice message, then when I call and leave a voice message they don't call back for like 8 to 10 days at a random time then don't leave a message. It's frustrating I've asked if they can just send me a time so I know to wait for them but they don't respond to that request at all

>>62837452
Damn bro you ghosted the branch I’m commissioning in—not cool.

But at this point, just be the most annoying guy on the whole planet and call them endlessly until they pick up. 97 AFQT and the navy telling you to be a CS is fucking hilarious though.

>>62837461
Cringe

>>62837461
"Yeah sorry there's no jobs available your choices are AZ or CS if you want to join lmao"
Yeah got yelled at for like 5 hours straight by the recruiter for not signing that one. Not gonna lie Petty Officer that shit is straight retarded.

>>62837322
I used to be attached to a CG recruiting office in an inland state. The problem is just a massive customer base and few billets. There may be 3-4 "full time" recruiters wrangling all the intake and waivers for applicants from multiple surrounding states, people like you 9 hours away, plus doing community outreach events, and slowing down for holiday routine.
I agree with >>62836682 to keep politely pushing on them but don't show up unannounced, your instinct is correct that they may just be out of office the day you show up.

>>62837452
You need to make a phone call work with them, however you can make that happen. There is an endless list of yes/no clarifying questions and followup questions in their internal intake flow, doing it over the phone in real time is the only way to knock that out, otherwise it would take so long with back-and-forth that they would never be able to ship you out and they will just move on to their other open cases who do pick up the phone.

>>62835091
I know this is difficult for you, but maybe you should try reading it.

Serious no bullshit:
How hard would it be to get into the military with history of anxiety, 2 broken arms with surgery, adhd and a spotty record of employment?
On a side note, what's the deal with sealift command and how deep are the investigators digging for security clearance? i was a turbo sperg in 2020 and 2021 online before calming down.

>>62837576
employment matters not. go to r/mhs_genesis they'll help you out , no bullshit. easily doable even without cheating.

>>62837576
>anxiety, adhd
>>62836991–read this.
>broken bones with surgery
Requires a waiver, and all necessary medical documents will need to be provided (recruiter/MEPs tells you which ones). You also need to pass some extra exercises the doctor at MEPs makes you do to prove you have a full range of motion for your arms—if you fail you are disqualified from medical service.
>security clearance
Depends on whether you want Secret or TS. Secret would be pretty easy to move through, but TS clearance has a lot more in depth research—either way though you should be fine

>>62837576
just opt out:https://www.reddit.com/r/mhs_genesis/comments/18rop64/how_to_beat_mhs_genesis/?sort=new

fuck this guy>>62837628

>>62837628
*disqualified from military service

>>62837630
>>62837576
If you want to try and do the entire OPT out thing—firstly good luck—but secondly make sure to do it before you go to the recruiter. Often times, recruiters use your SSN to run a “pre check” for MEPs which will pull all your records which will render any opt out work after this a waste of your time.

>>62837600
>>62837628
>>62837630
>>62837649
I was on Tricare for my entire life, will i still be able to opt out?

>>62837759
No, tricare is linked to genesis so there is no way to “opt out” of record sharing. Waiver route is your only option.

>>62837759
no you gotta get waivers. shouldn't be too hard for your case , they are loosening adhd standards.

Any of you niggers know anything about shit like accountants and programmers joining the FBI? Can they do cool stuff or do they just ride a desk?

>>62837950
You have to be 18 to post here

>>62837950
They'll just do accounting or programming for the FBI, not chase bad guys in back alleys or whatever.

>>62837950
All 1811 special agent positions positions at all federal LE agencies are 80% admin work, 20% field work, with some collateral opportunities for SRTs/regional SWAT. Only the mission focus differs.
FBI, DEA, HSI, ATF, DSS, IRS-CI, OSI, NCIS, USSS, TIGTA, USPIS, every OIG, whoever the fuck else.
FBI is the only agency that randomly assigns a violation and duty location for you, all others you will know prior to starting.
>>62837995
There is near zero correlation between background and what violation you get assigned. Forensic accountant? Enjoy 20 years doing counterterror surveillance and never handcuffing someone. Prior local PD with sex crimes expertise? Enjoy your public corruption task force that spends 4 years on one case and gets shut down due to political reasons.
>t. peripheral glower

>>62793675
Was looking up the different units at Eisenhower and from what I've read online on other sites, it seems like I'll either go to a unit and do my job, or there's a chance I'll go to the 513th MI Brigade (not seeing them mentioned in a positive light anywhere) and will want to blow my head off.
How do I keep myself from going there?

>>62838818
Adding on to this, everything I'm reading about this base in general makes it seem like dogshit.

>>62838818
>>62838890
You don't get a choice of unit when you're getting a choice of duty station, except in rare cases, and definitely not with an option 19.
Don't take people on >plebbit or wherever you're reading this stuff so seriously, even if you end up in 513th you'll probably still do real work since that brigade is CENTCOM-aligned and something is always happening there.
Everyone I know who was or is stationed at Eisenhower says it's decent, can't really speak to quality of life there since I've never been but I do know that housing is cheaper than pretty much every other major INSCOM site. If you really hate it once you're there, keep in mind that you'll have lots of opportunities to go somewhere else, especially near the end of your contract once you're an experienced E-4 or so. You'll be able to reenlist for duty station of choice, apply to (some) coolguy stuff, apply for the NSA internship programs, potentially just get out and apply for a job, etc.
If you're really that worried, you can try negotiating with your recruiter for a different option 19 contract, but YMMV on how that will go. If I were you I'd just take Georgia but it's your choice.

Thinking about going back in. Got med seped after basic and last of me wants to give it another go. Was the dumbest shit too. Supposedly pre existing compartment syndrome, got me sent home in the middle of gold phase.
It's either try round 2 or join the operators union

>>62839245
Yeah, I'm acting retarded, just wasting time in the AM looking stuff up and psyching myself out for something that's taking place almost a year from now, sorry.
The odds of getting something favorable to me are 3/4, I'm gonna stop worrying about it.

>>62836386
If I had done a full 20 years instead of just 4, I think I would have applied to be a recruiter to get out of a shitty assignment... though this was for the Air Force rather than the Marines. I wouldn't want to be a recruiter in any other branch.
Also when I was in the recruitment office the recruiter made me sign a paper that listed what I couldn't do with him. The usual stuff you'd except, don't get drunk at the strip club with the recruiter, don't suck his dick, etc. But it had two separate bullet points for gambling. I was like "what the fuck happened that I have to agree TWICE not to go gambling with you" and he was like bro don't even ask lmao. The world may never know.

>>62838068
>IRS-CI
I initially misinterpreted this as Internal Revenue Service Counterintelligence and almost lost my fucking mind

I want to work at the NSA, NGA, or NRO as a civilian. What's the best way to leverage enlisting in the military to accomplish this?

>>62839668
Power rankings for each agency. Answers limited to AFSC/MOS/rates I've heard of.

NSA:
>That area where cyber and intelligence overlaps: Navy CWT, Air Force 1N4X1 (or whatever the cyber intel AFSC is called now)
>SIGINT or close enough: Army 35N, 35S, Air Force 1N2, 1N4X2, Navy CTR, also CWT
>Cyber operator: Army 17C, Air Force 1B4
>Non-signals/cyber intelligence
>Comms or close enough (assuming you get at least a TS clearance): Army 25 series, 35T, Air Force 1D7

NGA:
>GEOINT: Air Force 1N1X1, Army 35G, 12Y
>Non-GEO intelligence
>Comms
>Space operator: Space force 5S

NRO (BASED):
>Space operator
>SIGINT
>GEOINT
>????: Air Force 9S100
>Other intelligence
>Comms

Overall:
>Get a degree and certs relevant to your career interests
>Beg for an intelligence community assignment
>Attempt to get a polygraph on record (an IC assignment should fulfill that)
>Network with contractors

Man does the meps waive so much shit, that they probably shouldn't. Esp fort jackson.

What do I have to do to get kicked out at O-2?
https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2024-11-08/army-officer-killings-texas-incompetent-15783978.html
What personality traits does one need to get into OCS and then flunk out at life as an O-2?

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Esl just curious about the difference between us army and us marines (the two branches where 99% of us military infantry reside):
When looking for the difference between marines and army on the net, the answer is pretty much always: "the Army occupies a territory while Marine Corps invade territories".
This is bullshit right? That means that marines actually do the fighting, offensive to gain territory during a war while the army is just a police force?
I thought marines (which means sailor in latin languages) where "just" a force specialized for amphibious operations/naval infantry, with a strong connection with water element?

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>>62840077
>This is bullshit right?
Yes and No. Both the Army and Marines are capable off occupying and invasion and there is really nothing the Marines can do that the Army can't. However, the Marines are a significantly leaner force with a higher tooth to tail ratio because they rely so heavily on the Navy for certain Combat Support and Combat Service Support functions. This means that once they invade they're better off handing over occupation duties to the Army because the army has significantly more manpower and ability to sustain itself in the long run.


tl;dr both the Army and Marines can invade and occupy. The Army can just occupy more territory for a lot longer.

t. Guard infantry officer

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Anons, I have a dilemna.
I want to join the Space Force but I also really want to do Army shit (airborne, air assault, etc)
I live near a Space Force base and with Trump in office, it looks like picrel will become a thing soon.
Question is: active duty Army now, then Space National Guard after? Or active duty Space Force now and Army guard/active duty later?

>>62839245
>coolguy stuff
What does this mean?

>>62841148
If you join a branch other than the ussf or usaf in a job that is not related to space, cyber. IT, or intel, you should count on not being able to get into the ussf or space guard.
The focus has been to transfer people with relevant jobs from the usaf and other branches. There is no reason to think that will change in the future when ussf leadership has explicitly stated that they prefer experienced members over retreads.

>>62841338
Will Army 35N be able to transfer over?
Also I figured the Space Force Reserve/National Guard would be like the Air Force Reserve/Guard where it's easy to transfer from other branches

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This is what you fight for.

You are against Christ and America.

You are not American. This is your flag, golem.

You chose to betray America for international zionists.

>>62841148
If the Space Force is anything like the Air Force they aren't letting prior service in any significant numbers. The window of them accepting branch transfers left and right is long gone. If you wanna do Army shit then go infantry and never look back. You don't actually need to be an intel or cyber nerd to get a decent job. A lot of infantry dudes are just bad at putting resumes together and often accept the first shitty job they're offered instead of attending college or analyzing what they actually did in the military for their resume.

Why doesn't USAF take prior service?

>>62841523
They take a few every year, but they just don't need to. The AF almost always meets their recruitment goals every year because it's the cushy branch. For them it's probably cheaper to pay a brand new E-1 and train him up than to take a E-5 or E-6 from another who you still have to basically train from the ground up, but also pay more money and put in leadership.

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>>62841396
Operation Provide Hope 2.0 will not happen, Pyotr

Theoretically speaking if I commission and then begin to date an enlisted girl I met off a dating app but she was at different duty station would it still be considered fraternization?

>>62841588
You need to either marry her now, or marry her within a year of commissioning. If she's in a different branch entirely, it doesn't actually matter all that much but there is still a slim chance of blowback. Also don't stick your dick in enlistoids. They will tempt you, but you must be above it.

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>>62841148
I was already writing up the most based career path, just replace Air Force Reserve with the theoretical Space National Guard:
>One contract in the Air Force as a Combat Controller (typically 6 years) (or I guess 18X or 11X Option 40 if you literally mean Army)
>Get cool training, do cool shit, maybe even kill people
>Grind out bachelor's and master's while in
>Separate
>Acquire 100% VA disability on your way out (apply prior to separation, but drag out all your appointments and shit so it doesn't interfere with commissioning)
>Commission into the Air Force Reserve as cyber or intel
>Use unique work experience, leadership experience, and letters of recommendation to get into elite MBA school
>Coast on GI Bill, disability, and drill pay
>Land role as senior bullshit manager at Defense Contractor #1750135
>Retire as O-4

>>62842201
What does this have to do with joining the military?

>>62841177
Great Skills program and a couple other things you'll find out about later.

>>62841588
no

>>62840077
Marines never get to deploy and never get promoted. the marine corps is designed to treat you so bad that you get out after one enlistment. there is no case where you should go marines over army, unless ww3 is already happening.

Realistically, how old is too old for SF selection?

>>62842330
It's not an age question.

>>62842330
older guys do better

>>62842338
Wdym?

>>62842344
Like, how old?
I mean that shit can't be good on your body, can it?

>>62842352
how old are you?

>>62842357
Me? I'm 21. But I'm also the guy asking >>62841148. If I choose to POGmaxx first, I'll be ~26 when I leave the Space Force and presumably go to selection. Don't know if that's too old or not.

>>62842345
Do you want to be a Green Beret? That should answer your question. I'll turn 30 at IBOLC. Nut up or shut up.

>>62842363
there are guys in their late 30s and early 40s who go to selection and do fine. if you have problems at 26 , you have no business trying

>>62841389
It is easy to transfer to any branch provided you have a relevant job and there are slots.
The ussf is tiny and is still intentionally pulling from the usaf to meet quotas rather than new accessions.

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Will Donald Trump reform the military to ensure that injustices like this stop happening?

>>62842993
He has contempt for military members.
Why do you think he'd care about something like that?

>>62843086
you lost, lmao

>>62843512
>implying I don't also have contempt for all things American

>>62843534
yet you are posting on an american website.

>>62843770
To call this dude indoctrinated would give the jonestown folks a bad name

>be anon
>go on www.4chan.org to spam shit about jews and zionists and zogbots and bla bla bla
>do this on weekends
>do this on holidays
>do this in the middle of the night
>do this during working hours
>do this for years on end

>>62834026
I'm still lurking in case anyone has any experience

Question for any guardianons: Cyber Systems Operator or Cyber Transport Systems?

>>62844964
In theory, Cyber Transport is more BASED, while Cyber Systems Operations has more job opportunities (due to not being pigeon-holed into networking).
In practice, any 5C shred can go to any 5C slot, partially because of some sort of multicapable meme strategy, partially because the Space Force is a total clusterfuck when it comes to comm- uhh, I mean cyber. Also I haven't heard those names used in a while, though I don't even remember what they're called now desu.

You can't go wrong with either of them, but I would pick Cyber Transport... if they let you pick your shred. I don't know how they get assigned anymore, it's a mess.

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>incompetent to stand trial according to the civilian world
>was given legal authority over other human beings in the military world
Surely I will not encounter such a being. What's your recourse if you end up under the command of such a person? He does have legal power over you, right?

>>62845117
>What's your recourse if you end up under the command of such a person?


You open door your CO/1SG and then BC/CSM about it. If that doesn't work, you file a complaint with the IG. I also don't know who or what that guy did anyway.

>>62845136
Blew the brains out of six different people including his parents. Turns out he was a diagnosed schizophrenic. Just makes me wonder how long it would take for the Army to remove a schizo from a leadership position and how much punishment his underlings took before said removal. Its never instant.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/central-texas-shooting-spree-suspect-found-mentally-incompetent/
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-shooting-spree-new-details-released-shane-james-bexar-county

>>62845149
>Just makes me wonder how long it would take for the Army to remove a schizo from a leadership position


If you do something truly off the wall, you can get removed immediately, but the military has a poor record with mental health. You're encouraged to lie about it, because if you come clean you may get put on a no weapons or no-fly profile which will make you even sadder.

>>62845149
If a schizo can sneak through OCS/ROTC can a manic-depressive do the same? Asking for a friend lol. I thought peer evals would catch this but I guess not.

>>62845271
>I thought peer evals would catch this but I guess not.


No one knows or cares how you feel on the inside unless you tell them or let it show.

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>>62833998
I'm never in these generals and never really thought about enlisting until a few days ago. How old is too old? Im 25, but look and am in the shape of a freshfaced 18 year old.

What are some pathways to becoming an evil glowie? I want to do some evil shit and become a globohomo elite. What branch/MOS is best for this?

>>62845713
Each branch has age limits. Take a look and decide for yourself.

>>62844427
Don't think anyone does. If you try these courses you should report back and tell us how it went.

>>62845867
There aren't any, since contrary to what /pol/ and /x/ will tell you most "glowies" are glorified office workers who make excel spreadsheets and write reports. Comtrary to popular belief they can also get legally crucified for violating the rights of Americans; look up intelligence oversight and DoDM 5240.01 sometime.
That said, pretty much any intel rate/MOS/AFSC will let you interact with the IC to some extent. Those focused on GEOINT will work more closely with the NGA, all-source might work with the DIA or CIA, and those focused on SIGINT will work with the NSA. The nature of that relationship depends on the specific duty position you have.

>>62846230
Interesting. Didn't realize there was actual oversight for glowies, after Snowden I assumed the IC were just a bunch of schizo retards

>>62846272
I'm tired of children posting here

>>62845867
What flavor of glow?

Intelligence agency feds do lots of virtual snooping on foreigners but rarely get hands on within the US.

Whereas criminal investigator feds can do fieldwork, surveillance, sting operations etc but work within the confines of domestic LE and constitutional bounds.

>>62846297
I'd like to do some field work. Not just sitting behind a desk like >>62846230 said. Domestic or foreign is fine by me.

>>62846324
You'll need a college degree and high GPA. Agency requirements are usually pretty competitive.

>>62846366
Is there any way to do field work in the military by just enlisting?

>>62846390
Field work is vague as fuck, but you could enlist as a 31B then apply to become an MP warrant officer after a few years and work for CID. You can also become enlist as a 35F and try to work in an SF group or for 160th SOAR.

What do you actually want to do though? You should figure that out first and then come up with a career path. Because right now it just sounds like you watched a bunch of action movies and just wanna get into shootouts while wearing a suit and tie.

>>62846424
>just wanna get into shootouts while wearing a suit and tie.
Is it possible to learn this power?

>>62846459
Just watch John Wick

>>62846424
Spying. Like, idk, airdrop me into trashcanistan and let me snoop on niggas.

>>62846565
>>62846324
https://www.usajobs.gov/job/812401300
?

>>62846183
I will. Give me until late May.

>>62846643
This looks interesting.
I was also looking at something called SOT-A which was mentioned in these threads a few times. I'd be down to do that as well but can't find a whole lot of info.

>>62846565
How old are you, unironically?

>>62846743
22
I work an extremely boring and gay (though very well paying) office job and I want to do some crazy shit before i get old

>>62846752
Do active duty army with either a guaranteed cool job or location in your contract, and take a USERRA leave from your job, they have to hold your spot for 5 years.
Or join army national guard in a cool job,

>>62846808
>guaranteed cool job
Like what, infantry? Special forces?

>>62846808
>they have to hold your spot for 5 years.
on paper they do, but they'll still find a reason to fire you when you get back, if you're disposable enough to be gone for 5 years without anything changing, they are 100% gonna sack your ass.

>>62846815
The MOS's are public. Go pick one. Look at 35 series

>>62846826
Yes I know, I see 35N sigint has been shilled here quite a bit but I don't know if that's a desk job or a cool job. I guess it's a top secret because I can't get a clear answer kek

>>62846825
Nope, the dept of labor has an army of lawyers who litigate nothing but those complaints. They keep a public shame board of employers they publicly dick-slap. Even things like the company not providing job retraining when you come back, or not granting seniority benefits.

>>62846815
Bro how are you this incapable of DYOR?

>>62846815
just ask for an open contract, they'll take care of you

>>62846938
You work for me, not the other way around. Bro.

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>>62846951

>>62846956
If you're asking questions that www.google.com could answer we're just going to give you garbage answers.

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>>62847001
Not me anon

>>62846815
Talk to the air force and tell them you want to be "SF". You get an "SF" beret and everything.

>>62847009
The point still stands

Should I try and enlist in the airforce/ space force, or take my brother up on his offer to join the IUOE

>>62847009
You edited that picture because two of those responses are mine

>>62847102
The IUOE is actually useful

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>>62833998
Can anyone share what the current state of recruiting is atm? Im prior service and considering gong back in etc. Any details or ideas about how things are right now is appreciated.

>>62849100
How easy/hard recruiting is depends heavily on the branch and whether you'll be doing officer/enlisted recruiting. AF and CG recruiting is always a cake walk (especially CG since you handle both Officer and Enlisted and you'll be the only branch in the area). Navy/Army enlist recruiters seems the most difficult and least enjoyable if recruiters on the internet are to be believed. Navy should be getting easier with the new Rear Admiral in charge of recruiting being way more lenient on waivers (hence why Navy actually met/exceeded their FY24 goal).

>>62849314
My guy im not asking how hard is it to BE a recruiter, im seeing how easy it is for me as a prior service guy trying to get back in. I was Navy and im considering going army.

>>62849366
easy as fuck

>>62849366
what did you do in the navy?what are you trying to do in the army?any college credits?age?

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>>62849368
Explain?
>>62849371
OS2, 33 now, no college, want to do something far more "high speed", either something with an opt 40 or 18x if either is possible. I have a very good job atm but I am bored as fuck and still have that itch. Got out perfectly clean, RE1 no debt no crim record no medical/disabilities of any kind.

>>62849465
>Explain?
we are in a recruiting crisis. there desperate for people and waivers are easy . prior service always do get less attention from recruiters, but still a pretty straight forward to get in.

>>62849465
at your age and maturity i'd recommend 18x and going for sf, but option 40 is still possible. normally i recommend guys get their degrees and commission, but at your age, enlisting is not a bad choice. how fit are you?

>>62849465
would you be interested in aviation/ fight warrant? you're right at the cutoff for age and would have to get waivers, but its a good career.

Anyone able to tell me about what to expect in the National Guard, Im active duty E4 0341 and im at a crossroads what to do. Im tired of the Marine Corps but i dont want to give up being grunt. All i hear NG get cooler deployments

>>62849515
>i dont want to give up being grunt
would you consider sf?

>>62849515
>what to expect in the National Guard
a much better life than in the usmc. the guard is full of jarheads.

>>62849517
Never something I thought about

>>62849481
thats what id heard, just making sure
>>62849488
>at your age
so is this you confirming there is not a hard age limit on 18x that im in danger of nearing?
>how fit are you?
very, all i do is work and then workout
>>62849506
>would you be interested in aviation/ fight warrant?
Ive heard good things, i think, about it but know very little hard facts. If you know anything work knowing can you share it

>>62849519
good and good

>>62849533
>there is not a hard age limit on 18x that im in danger of nearing?
correct

>>62840002
Did you even bother reading the article? He likely got kicked out due to his DV charges

I'm in college studying electrical engineering but I'm also interested in joining the military. Should I go nuke in the navy or do something like 12P in the army? I've heard that both have pretty good earning potential after the military.

>>62849564
The schizo keeps posting that article with the same question.
I'm not really clear on what their endgame is.

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>>62849585
>Should I go nuke in the navy
My brother in Christ, have you at least skimmed through the OP at any point in the past three years?

>>62849585
dont enlist. finish your degree and commission. you ever consider aviation?

>>62849602
>My brother in Christ, have you at least skimmed through the OP at any point in the past three years?
Maybe I did read that at some point but forgot about it because I didn't really care then.
>>62849608
>you ever consider aviation?
Yes, although I also find 12P really tempting since I'm interested in going into power.

>>62849620
you wanna do the whole 20 years and retire or do your time and then get out with a good career. you go fly jets for the air force and then get out with a 400k+ year job in the airlines. pretty good gig if you ask me.

>>62849314
>Navy/Army enlist recruiters seems the most difficult
Nah, I'd be willing to bet that MC recruiting has the highest number of suicides.

>>62849515
Ask about rep 63, half the marines who get out to join the guard try it anyway.

Soon Trump will be president, think there will be huge boost for military recruitment?

>>62849681
no

>>62849683
how so?

>>62849689
Why would there be? The president isn't the one driving recruiting issues; it's things like Genesis, the way officers are evaluated and the trickle-down effects on the force from those evaluations, the geopolitical situation abroad and the economic situation at home, and popular perceptions of what military service is worth and what serving will look like over the next 2-4 years. You might get a couple people who are thrilled to sign up for Trump's Army or whatever but the average American won't want to join up until many of these factors change.

>dream is to be a fighter pilot
>can never do that because have adhd
kill me

>>62849696
Blame your parents. All aspects of behavior are genetic. End the cycle and pay them a visit.

>>62849696
have you even tried? waivers are easy for officers.

>>62849701
I think I'll blame you actually
>>62849703
it's an automatic DQ for piloting sadly

>>62849707
you can get a waiver retard. there is also the navy and usmc aviation

>>62849707
if you have been off medication for a year you can easily get a waiver. who told you this information and when?

>>62849707
do you have a degree already? what is/was your gpa and major?

>>62849722
>>62849728
there might be hope then, I got info from the internet, stupid of me to blindly trust it, I know, thanks though
>>62849730
haven't started yet because poor but am planning on it next year

>>62849785
Don’t even think about aviation if you can’t get a degree. The ADHD is the least of your worries at this point. Try for a STEM degree as well.

>>62849809
yeah good point, will have to start studying hard

>>62849838
how old are you?

>>62849809
he wont make it, if he gave up that easy without trying ,he doesnt have what it takes

>>62849861
20 yr old wagie
>>62849865
I'm retarded but I'm still gonna try my hardest

>>62849892
Try looking into some of the military academies (CG, Navy, AF) and see if you can make it in--basically guaranteed an officer spot. College ROTCs also have pretty good scholarships to keep you in college and also get you an officer spot. Not sure how commissions work through either of those two options though (what choice you have in deciding what kind of officer you want to be) as I am going through OCS instead.

>>62849992
will do, thanks anon

>>62849667
thank you ill check it out

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i'm not going to be able to get my waivers in time for the OCS selection board this wek. how hard will it be to get selected from one of the later boards.
currently my pft isn't that competitive
>15 - pullups
>max plank
>21:20 3 - mile
and my gpa isn't goint to be that high by the end of the semester probably
>3.0 (+/-) .3
also is it worth reading the books from pic rel?

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>30 y/o
>thinking of joining the marines to get out of my shitty job and do something I'll be proud of

How hard is it to get an age waiver? I guess I could go army but I have my mind set on marines.

>>62836991
>>62837630
I voluntarily went to a mental health hospital (pot induced psychosis 3 years ago, clean now) and my last recruiter was willing to work with me but I've moved since then and am considering Army insead of Marines now. Would it be better to not mention it at all to new recruiter and try to opt out of genesis or is it in the system because of talking to a recruiter before?

>>62852145
Join the army.you will hate yourself 4 years from now if you Join the marines

>>62852197
Army and Navy are the two branches that are most likely to take you at this point. You’ll need to have a psychiatrist diagnosis you as “cured” and you’ll still need to be off the meds for a period of 24 months minimum. You can try opting out of record sharing but I’m no expert on the process on doing it, or how effective it is.

>>62852145
Don't join the Marines. You're too old. Mentally not physically.

>>62852145
Join the Coast Guard. You’ll do some actual cool guy shit (especially if you join Maritime Law Enforcement) or learn a ton of trades (Boatswain/MK). Plus all the bases are in decent areas in continental US.

>>62852145
Any college credits?

>>62852145
You’re be deep in regret when you get to your first duty station and a 19 year old tells you to clean the fucking head.

>>62852309
>you will hate yourself 4 years from now if you Join the marines


He won't hate himself once it's over. He'll hate himself while he's in.

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>>62852620
I was also thinking about the Coast Guard, actually. It seems like it would have the best QoL and I'd do something interesting that's hands-on. The marines also interest me just cause of the prestige (i guess to prove I could do it).

>>62852570
>You're too old. Mentally not physically.
This is my biggest hangup in general. I've done a ton of research on all the branches and although you can get to do some cool shit, a lot of the negatives are off putting. Being told what to do by someone 10 years younger, living in the barrack (though I've heard the Coast Guard doesn't have barracks and gets BAH out the gate). I feel I'm too used to living on my own to put up with the downsides.

>>62852838
If you don't need the money, and just wanna do cool shit join the National Guard as an 11B or 18X. Should scratch the itch. If you need to get your life together too, then suck it up and go active.

>>62833998
working on getting in shape to join the coast gaurd, but my uncorrected vision is 20/400 and astigmatism. 20/20 with glasses. how fucked am I? Is it possible to get a waiver?

>>62853107
Bad eyesight is the most common waiver, you’ll be fine. Air Force may have a stick up their ass about though if you want to go down that route.

>>62853107
Damn, my vision is 20/200 but corrected only gets it down to 20/60. Is corrected supposed to be 20/20?

>>62853144
If it's not 20/20 it's not actually corrected

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>>62853120
very good...

I have one other problem. My right leg is longer than my left (Leg Length Discrepancy -- "LLD"). it runs in my family, and everyone else that's served in the Navy has had it as well but found out about it some time after serving.
One one hand, they'll never know about if I don't tell them
On the other hand it's completely fixed by a simple finger-width heel-lift in my boot, and I'm really nervous about getting a running injury from running without it (not the first time) during boot camp. I should probably take my chances and forget to tell them?

>>62853231
Never reveal any medical problems until after you finish IET.

>>62853244
what does basic training in the coast guard look like? I'm 32 and going for a guaranteed Damage Controlman contract

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Is substance abuse in the military THIS prevalent?
https://youtu.be/jLGIs3EBPKU
What is it like being in this kind of environment? How does this affect tempo/traing/exercises. Sounds like Section 8 housing but with camo.

>>62853269
>what does basic training in the coast guard look like?


How the fuck should I know? Do you think everyone here is in the Coast Guard or something. Let's just rename this general to /Coast Guard Enlistment General/ since everyone wants to be a puddle pirate now.

>>62853281
>why do soldiers drink a lot
truly a question for the ages

>>62853295
it's a big thread, annon. a few people ITT will probably be coasties. some might even be homosexual (airforce)

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>>62853295
>t. missionlet

>>62853318
While that may be true, the CG is the smallest (maybe second smallest with the SF), it was just an odd thing to assume.
>>62853322
>Missionlet
Nope. My unit has an upcoming mission early next year and a probable deployment/rotation the following year.

>>62853295
Army-cel posters truly need to be taken to the back and shot for their dogshit opinions.

>>62852838
>i guess to prove I could do it
Don't be fooled by the commercials and propaganda. You're trained to a minimum standard, just like every other branch. Is it slightly more difficult than Army/Navy/AF training? Sure, but it doesn't get anywhere near the difficulty of SF training pipelines.

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>ctrl+f coast guard, 13 results
Good to see /meg/ is joining the only branch that actually defends America.

>>62853269
If you can do the 3-week depot, you'll be fine. 8 weeks of hell, otherwise. Working literally 16 hours a day (17.5 if you have watch, which might be every other day) and you're getting 2k a month. I did the math and I probably would've made over 4x the amount working at Del Taco. Puddles of sweat on the floor during our 10th smoke session for the day. The boot camp video makes it look way softer than it actually is. Despite the "le puddle pirate" memes, Cape May is pretty physically brutal - only prior service marines thought it was easy, but navy/AF said it was harder. We had a lot of ambulances early on. On your flight there, study your general orders. Maybe M16 nomenclature, ranks, and practice trying the 4 knots with a shoelace or something. You won't have enough time to learn everything when you're there. You could also watch some videos on marching. Be quiet, stay in the middle of formation, don't volunteer for anything, do as you're told, and scream as loud as possible. Don't be a lazy fuck or you'll find yourself in RAMP.

It definitely gets better after week 6. That's when they stop reverting people unless they catastrophically fuck up. And you might get access to coffee, talking in the galley, and a bit more leeway with the CCs

>>62835091
Trump kinda throws Taiwan under the bus - says they should pay for defense. Israel doesn't, of course. Convenient that his donors get free support but not Taiwan.

>>62853945
>coast
Oh and DON'T JOIN IF THERE'S A HOLIDAY COMING UP
I joined right before July 4th, which meant that there was no new company the week ahead of us. That meant that if you got reverted, you'd go 2 weeks back. And half my fucking company got reverted, as well as the one ahead of us

>>62853953
Two weeks is fucking nothing. Try getting recycled in Guard OCS and getting set back 18 months lol

>>62853970
At least brass gets paid. How's OCS 18 months?

This>>62853564
That’s like saying you’re jump ass first onto a giant barbed fish hook to prove how tough you are. Unnecessary hardship and suffering should be avoided.peacetime marine corps is hell, I’d only recommend the sync if we were in ww3 and all hell has gone lose. In that being in the usmc island hopping in the pacific wouldn’t be that bad. Compared to purposely slowing yourself to get relentlessly pounded by the green weenie over bs shit that makes no logical sense. You wanna prove your self? Go 18x or option 40 in the army.tougher than the marines and you actually get promoted and treated like a human being.

>>62852838
Anon see>>62854006

>>62853988
>How's OCS 18 months?

National Guard

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>>62854006
>>62854015
>>62853564
Thanks I appreciate the responses. I've been watching a lot of military stuff (vlogs, videos, etc) and pretty much everyone says to stay away from the marines and go army. So far I haven't seen a single person anywhere recommend marines, I'm just surprised it's that disliked.

My goal MOS wise is something hands on, either working with tools or machinery, maybe welding or something.

>>62854083
>I'm just surprised it's that disliked.

The only reason to join the Marines is to be a Marine. Everything you can do in the Marines, you can do in another branch with significantly more opportunities for missions and training.

>>62853945
>Good to see /meg/ is joining the only branch that actually defends America.
C'mon man, throw the USN a bone with their non stop peace time deployments. The two maritime based branches seem to be the only two people doing anything in this god damn country.

>>62854168
It's mostly just peacetime combat arms that doesn't do anything relevant in peacetime, and even then, they can get activated for emergencies in some cases. A lot of guys from 18th Airborne Corps got activated for Hurricane Helene relief, for example.
The intel rates/AFSCs/MOSs from each branch can also be very busy with real-world stuff even in peacetime, depending on where they're stationed.

>>62854395
Nah just keep letting Navyfags think being trapped in a steel box for months with all men is greatest thing since sliced bread. Bunch of homos.

>>62833998
Will the Air Force OTS board be able to see that I turned down a commission from the Navy about a year ago? Applying for OTS.

Thanks

>>62854832
Did you turn down a commission or just turn a slot for OCS? Those are two very different things. If the former you'd just be applying for a branch transfer not OTS.

air forcechads, ive been in DEP for like 1.5 months now. my recruiter says new jobs come on the 15th of every month. is this BS? im kinda tired of waiting and working my shitty wagelsave job desu

>>62852494
Never even considered the Navy. Thought they were more selective than the Air Force? I have that paperwork already so I'll talk to them too

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Should the government be paying as much as they are to veterans? I'm about to file a claim for compensation from my time in the Army. Should I feel bad about looking to get money for back pain, Sinusitis, and a couple scars. I know people going for PTSD from basic training so I don't think I'll ever feel bad about getting some gibs

>>62857738
Rule of thumb, if you feel guilty about it you're probably right.

Anybody have any personal experience about being an 11B, 12B, 19K, 19C, or 91F?

>>62858186
They all sound gay besides 11b which sounds cool and gay

>>62857492
No, the Navy is not nearly as selective as the Air Force/CG. The navy doesn’t really deal with combat arms—so a lot of mental health/crime waivers get pushed through—and the rates that require more “smarts” are just gate locked behind high test scores. Boats need people to keep them running so they are always looking for more people. I’d look into the rates the Navy offers as the branch itself has some of the best rates that translate to quality post service work.

>>62857738
If the government legitimately fucked you up don't feel bad about getting money from them.
>>62858186
Former mechanized 11B here, I worked extensively with all of these except (technically) 19C since they weren't a thing yet at the time. What do you want to know?

>>62857738
dont feel guilty, be a nigger to the system. black people are doing it so why cant you?

>>62857738
>back pain
>sinusitis
>couple scars
You're probably going to get <40%, only a couple hundred a month. What is there to feel guilt about? It's not like you're some fucking ELS retard that cried to their therapist until they got 100%. The VASRD for MH needs to be amended to cap MDD and PTSD at 50%. I'd be willing to bet those are the two most frequently abused conditions to defraud the VA.

>>62859053
>You're probably going to get <40%, only a couple hundred a month
Sounds good to me. Yeah I guess I could say I have PTSD from someone falling while repelling during air assault school but I don't know if I could bring myself to lie during and evaluation

>>62859072
That was an example, not a suggestion. So no, they shouldn't be paying that much to MDD or PTSD claims. 70% would be a good stopping point if they've got at least one deployment, but most MDD/PTSD claims should be capped at 50%.

>>62857484
>my recruiter says new jobs come on the 15th of every month. is this BS?
I have no idea, but if you're working with an Air Force recruiter who will let you pick your job IN YOUR CONTRACT, it's worth waiting. Those are pretty rare.

>>62857738
I went with DAV to help me with my claims while separating, and one of the first things they did was send me a PTSD form to fill out. I was like uhh I don't think I have PTSD, I just fixed computers and shit. I'm still not sure if they sent me that form by accident, policy, just trying to grift the VA, or what.
Anyway, the more I see the government spending money on ridiculous shit like welfare for illegal immigrants and food stamps and Section 8 housing for some retard with 9 kids from 9 baby daddies the more I regret not going balls to the wall on my claims.

>>62856009
Turned down a slot for Navy OCS. SNA. Never even swore in I just changed my mind after the board result came back with a yes.

>>62860121
Well you need to use the correct verbiage for starters. You didn't earn a commission, so therefore you didn't turn one down. Leading troops is a privilege not a right. It may seem like I'm splitting hairs but implied little stuff like that can really turn people off during the process if they catch it.

>>62858635
>What do you want to know?
In what ways does the Job suck and does it feel worth it in the end? Don't sugarcoat it

>>62860265
>In what ways does the Job suck
Physically: you will be expected to keep moving and fighting despite foot pain, knee pain, back pain, physical exhaustion, hunger, sleep deprivation, and possibly even wounds, should you end up in combat. You don't have the option of quitting when you're doing a movement to an objective or humping the 240 up a mountain. Fortunately, you can train to adapt to most of these conditions and just kinda power through the others, depending on your physical and mental fortitude. You also likely won't actually have to face some/all of these during a peacetime contract.
Emotional and social: Hazing is definitely not a thing anymore and you totally won't get hazed if you can't perform, whether on the range, at PT, or in a live fire. I've seen people get in trouble, take up excessive drinking, fall into depression, and ultimately get kicked out for sucking really hard at the job and not figuring out how to fix themselves. Again, this can be overcome through training and (critically) not being a retard or a bitch. You don't have to be some alpha jock type - I knew infantrymen who basically crawled straight out of /r9k/ - but you do need to be able to work in a team, use criticism to improve yourself, and have thick skin.
If you have a family, you will probably spend a fair amount of time away from them due to training and deployments (yes even in 2024 you will still deploy only instead of shooting at people in a third world country you will go to europe to do gunnery in the snow and get plastered in nuremburg). Whether you and your family deal with this well depends on your relationships.
>and does it feel worth it in the end?
Idk, honestly. What I did on a local level, for my soldiers and my squad, felt like it mattered. Putting my guys in for awards, getting them schools, succeeding at missions, taking care of their issues, that kind of thing. On a macro level probably none of what I did mattered in the grand scheme of things.

>SecDef nomination is a decade and a half younger than the JCS
That's gotta be awkward

>>62860433
He's also currently a Major in the IRR. A bizarre pick all around.
Hopefully he miraculously turns out to be good or gets canned fast.

>>62860433
in times of revolution never trust an old man. all the founding fathers were young compared to the geriatrics we have running the country now.

>>62860487
I don't think his military experience is actually the problem. He has plenty of time served and seen plenty of action for a Guardsmen or even active duty for that matter it's more that outside of his military experience, he didn't do anything defense related. I could understand if he were a defense analyst or something, but dude was a fucking new pundit. He also has pretty stupid opinions, and seems very focused on surface level DEI/LGBT stuff rather than actual issues like posturing the force for future conflicts. I genuinely don't think he will be capable of leading an organization this big.

>>62860682
> on surface level DEI/LGBT stuff rather than actual issues like posturing the force for future conflicts

Think about that for a minute

>>62860682
It’s a civilian position and anybody could do it. Rooting out the current old guard of snakes from the top brass is the most important thing any sec D could do to save our military

>>62860695
I did. The DEI stuff doesn't actually matter, and it doesn't change anything that actually relates to your job. A SQD ATK is still a SQD ATK whether or not you completed the online training about trannies. Focusing on DEI is a perception versus reality problem.

>>62860700
I don't think anyone can do it. I don't think you need to have been a 4-star general, but he doesn't give off genius level IQ vibes like McNamara did who had a similar amount of experience as SecDef.

>>62860749
> Focusing on DEI is a perception versus reality problem

We have had a problem of political promotions and appointments among the top brass starting in the Obama administration.its a carefully chosen kabal of deep state criminals,fags,and communists who hate what our country used to stand for and want to rape.they have doing so for many years and have grown sis trying that they felt empowered enough to openly dissent against trump during his administration. All the problems in our milligram trickle down from these incompetent boobs and nothing can be changed until they are gone.

>>62860760
>We have had a problem of political promotions and appointments among the top brass starting in the Obama administration.


Lmao dude. Promotions have been political since the country was founded. It's almost like our commissions come from the president and congress approves them or something.

>>62860780
We’ve never had this many generals in our countries history.Obama cultivated a class of officer and general that oppose everything we stand for as a country, all the die shit comes from them not outside pressure, they regularly cooperate faith our enemies and are not loyal to the interest of our country.you are being deliberately obtuse.

>>62860802
Tell me how me this changes anything about infantry tactics

Looking at Navy Intel Officer positions, how can I be more competitive? 2.7 GPA B.S in Computer Science, 78 OAR, fairly physically fit.

>Get mail from the Department of Treasury
>Figure it's either a bill or scam mail
>Open it
>It's a check from the VA for $31, without explanation
>Neat
>Get mail from [state] Department of Revenue
>Hope I get lucky again
>Open it
>It's a letter saying I fucked up my taxes and owe them $700
You win some, you lose some

This is also your unscheduled reminder to use the Pell Grant. It's free money for your bachelor's, and you can pocket the remaining amount (because you'll be paying for your bachelor's with TA in the first place).

>>62860253
True my mistake on verbiage, turned down the opportunity to earn a commission (i.e. OCS slot). So I technically didn't turn down a commission yet since it wasnt earned yet.

But...still don't know if Air force OTS board will be able to see that or not. I'll just explain it if it comes up.

>>62861756
I wouldn't worry about it honestly, even if they can. Just tell them why you turned it and move on. They really won't care. It'd be different if you were reapplying to the Navy.

>>62833998
Are they really letting felons into the air force now? Would air guard be a better chance of getting in with a waiver plus a health waiver?

>>62860864
you think infantry tactics should be the main concern with our millitary rn and not overall readiness and recruitment?

Fox news host as secretary

>>62863689
That's wasn't my point. The point was that whether or not woke shit exists in the military, it doesn't actually affect your job. I also think blaming DEI as the cause of the recruitment crisis is also stupid. The issue isn't the woke shit, though I know some people who got psyopped into believing won't enlist because of it. The problem is medical screening. Thousands of people who try to join are rejected every year because of medical conditions or previous medical history that in the past they could have just lied about and gotten through. With Genesis, the military shot themselves in the foot and shrunk their own talent pool.

I enlisted in 2020 right before Genesis went live, and if I tried to join I'd never have gotten in. There obviously are waivers, but the process is so long and obtuse to an outside observer that most just give up at the first hurdle and move on with life.

>>62863869
the woke shit is a problem ,because the generals who promoted are incompetent cowardly pieces of shit who are responsible for a lot of the bs and inefficiency that makes guys get out.people dont enlist, because they dont have faith in our millitary

>>62863869
i feel like you're just trying to win the argument rather than hear out what im saying.

>>62863869
Back to R3ddit

>>62864025
yeah those faggots are real butthurt about the sec of defense appointment. for people who spend their time complaining about the system they sure are loyal to the status quo

Death to Russia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHcFyJ82rFY

Convince me not to enlist bros

>>62864290
Get your passport and get the hell out of rome before it burns to the ground mate, I am not kidding. Do you want to work to death to survive in this declining country?

>>62864290
Don't enlist. Commission.

>>62863869
>it doesn't actually affect your job
Sure, bud
https://mustreadalaska.com/document-air-force-now-recruiting-based-on-racial-quotas-to-cut-white-male-population-in-officer-corps/
Not to mention, if you go to a promotion board and there's a woman there you might as well leave. You're not getting that promotion.

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25 isn't too late right?? my dog died and all i have going on is a shitty wagie job, maybe i can finally make mom and dad proud

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>>62865017
Im became a zogbot officer at 31 in my country

>>62833998
Just a heads up but apparently felony waivers are getting approved more often than not depending on the type of crime for the army. Is recruiting that bad?

>>62865017
25 is only too late for the marines as you need to be sub-21 to mentally stomach that dogshit branch.

>>62865088
No, recruiting overall was very good for FY24. The armed services are just not auto-declining otherwise qualified people for asinine reasons.

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>>62833998

https://discord.gg/V6bGGysu


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>>62865144
Thanks glown1gger

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Of Their Own Accord

>>62864319
Nothing ever happens
>>62864397
I don't have a college degree

You guys aren't doing a very good job

>>62841567
>if you don't wanna die for queers and niggers then you're a russian spy
The absolute state of /k/

I'm going to a foreign university for the 2nd and 3rd year of my bachelor's, would I be able to do ROTC for the 1st and 4th year of university and join the army as an officer?

>>62866601
You'd be better off just doing OCS once you graduate if you're set on a foreign exchange program

>>62866640
Alright, I've started to talk to my recruiter because I'm thinking of just enlisting instead of going to university. I want my career to be in international intelligence/counter terrorism so I was planning to get an international relations degree at a D.C. university but honestly it might be better just to enlist as something like a psyop specialist or counter intelligence

Reminder that the VA should and will be entirely privatized.

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>>62866572
I've got even stronger proof of how far that /k/ was fallen after the NAFO invasion.

How hard is psyop selection?

>>62867404
>/k/ is filled with degenerate faggots
Anon, I...

>>62867712
Difficult. It's not as hard as SFAS but don't expect a candywalk either. Be prepared to run and ruck a lot and don't be afraid to take charge if the situation calls for it.

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How many types of guns will I get to touch?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/11/14/military-suicides-rose-in-2023-continuing-a-troubling-trend/
>Military suicides rose in 2023

>>62868141
Interestingly the navy has a lower suicide rate (1.9%) compared to the AF (2.1%). I guess conventional wisdom rings true that if you’re always working you do not have time for depression.

>>62868054
I'm just worried about getting washed out and ending up as a military police, I'm passing up a good university for this, is there anything non-physical I should prepare for? I've heard writing while exhausted is a common thing that they have you do during selection

>>62868403
How are suicide rates in the military police? Since its a dumping ground MOS and all.

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>>62867858
After your Reddit invasion, that's certainly true.

>>62868539
>>>/pol/488469787

>>62868403
>is there anything non-physical I should prepare for
Being able to work in a team while stressed and sleep deprived. Knowing when to try and take charge and when to follow. Being able to motivate people and recognize when you need motivating yourself.

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>62869121
>no U are tranny

If you do 18X and fail to make the selection they make you a fucking cook through open contract?
Holy fuck what a scam, why would you fall for this.

>>62869331
just dont fail. not that hard

>>62869331
Yes, you get reclassed per needs of the Army. You'll have the secondary MOS of 11B since you'll have graduated from OSUT and you could probably do a PAR to switch from whatever you end up as to 11B but I haven't heard of anyone doing this.
Just sign an 11x op4 and volunteer at airborne if they have slots, or drop a packet after a year of getting hazed at the 82nd.

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>>62869209
>defaced picture
Liberals create nothing. They can only corrupt or destroy what good Conservative men create.

Looking for serious answers only, why do so many Afghanistan veterans have PTSD? Was the combat that intense? Because I know a few people who went to Afghanistan and came back claiming they had PTSD who never saw any combat.

Do you get your teeth checked during the medical examination? Is it thorough?
I’ve got severe decay on both my top wisdom teeth and am wondering if it’s gonna severely affect my chances of enlisting.

do you think I could enlist if I have scoliosis?

>>62869898
At MEPS? Not that I can remember. You will get checked during basic training but all they'll do is make an appointment for your teeth to get fixed if there's issues.
If you have some crazy shit going on like a dozen teeth missing and a finger growing out of your gums or whatever you might need a waiver but I've literally never heard of anyone having trouble joining because of their teeth.
>>62869911
Yes, depending on the severity. I had slight scoliosis when I joined. Though again, if it's debilitating you might get DQ'd.

>>62869640
That's what i wanted to do initially.
I'm training and rucking right now, plan to enlist in like a year aprox, i would do Option 40 but i'm not a citizen, so the next best thing would be getting 11X and jump school + NC guaranteed as a duty station right? Is it actually possible to send a packet and get transferred from 82nd to 75rr after a year in service?

I wanna do high speed shit, don't mind getting deployed. FO/Combat Controller or something along the lines. I'm NREMT AEMT certified, native in russian and can learn arabic/pashto if need be. I really don't want getting tossed into a desk job or medic role specifically and the recruiters are really pushy in that direction.
Also idk if it's realistic at all, since i'm russian and did a mandatory 1 year stint in the RUAF. Recruiter told me "it would be a problem" and refused to elaborate further when i asked them.

>>62869898
Basic training will have medical pull out your wisdom teeth and give you some Rx for the pain. You do not get time off from basic after this you’re just thrown right back into the fold.

if I get all my paperwork done and returned to an officer recruiter how long is the turnaround time? I'm planning on talking to a recruiter come start of the new year with a hopeful ship out date around summer. Also when should I stop smoking weed? Trying to hit the peace pipe one last time with the bros as well before I have to straighten up.

>>62869931
The year thing isn't required, it's just a recommendation since your gaining unit will want you to prove yourself a little before they sign off on a packet. If you want to go to SFAS or RASP you pretty much just walk in to your unit's clinic, ask for a schools physical, do everything required for it, then get with your leadership to submit a PAR and/or work with your local SORB to get a class date.
I'd ask a recruiter about the citizenship thing, there are plenty of people in SOF who weren't US citizens before they joined but I don't know exactly how it works.
When it comes to your prior service you might as well just keep trying and seeing how far you can go, I've seen people who served in other militaries join up and there are a couple people on >plebbit who say they were in the russian army before joining. It might take some kind of waiver, not sure.
>>62869932
YMMV, when I went through they were like "you need to get your wisdom teeth out" and I was like "uh okay?" and dental didn't bother me about it for another 5 years.

>>62869945
From what i've read on the internet so far i think there's only a naturalization fasttrack for SOF candidates that passed 18X, no freebies otherwise - you have to serve for a year and get naturalized and you're not getting a TS clearance before that happens.
And i'm not stupid enough to gamble on 18X and getting assigned an MOS that i'll despise doing for 4 years.

>>62869943
Turnaround time is dependent on when the officer board is and what branch. More info please

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>>62869932
I was told I had a wisdom tooth and dental did nothing about it