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>>62846805
Experimenting with 444 marlin… got a lone eagle.. 14 inch barrel.. single shot. Lots of possibilities for weird stuff.. loaded some 300 gn jsp sierras on cfe blk.. 46 gn up to 50 gn in 1 gn increments… GRT thinks I should get 1877 fps on the low end up to 2034 fps on the high end 38 a 46 ft/lbs of recoil, although I’m going to be mounting a scope that’s coming in Tuesday so I’ll have to weight it again and recalculate…. Looking at ordering some 125 gn solid copper penetrators for 44 mag and loading those…. In theory on lil gun I should be able to push those to 3000 fps with less recoil and less overall pressure than the sierras…. Gonna be fun.

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>>62848440
Meanwhile tested out some 38 special wadcutters on light loads for fun. Got the rounds unlubed from an estate sale.. this was my experiment in pan lubing..

>>62846805
my 458 Lott reloads are still waiting for a range session. was going to go this weekend, but stuff got in the way.

>>62846805
I wanted to reload some .308 Win, but all my 4166 powder went bad, and it corroded 3k large pistol primers sitting next to it. All 6 cans were fine back in July.

>>62848801
Damn that really sucks. What part of the jungle do you live in?

>>62848807
> the jungles of eastern Pennsylvania
It was in a storage bin inside my house. The whole place is climate controlled. I kept it at less than 75°F and 50% humidity. It was only the 4166 that went bad. 5 cans smelled like pool shock, and one was just sharp. Other powders were fine, but with yellowed labels/seals. I also tossed out a half a can of Autocomp because it put a beard of rust on the steel lid. Testing the primers showed they still pop, so I may keep them for plinking ammo. I definitely won't use them for ammo I intend to store.

Hoping prices/availability become more normal after January.

>>62849016
I’d honestly be tempted to put some mild loads together and chrono them just to see… it would physically hurt to lose that much powder

>>62849050
On a side note maybe look into a food style vacuum sealer if your losing that much…. My condolences anon.

>>62849050
I already have about 2k rounds loaded using other powders (IMR 4895 and H4895), I bought the 4166 powder to load up another 1k, but now that I have bullets, the powder went bad. I would have shot 100 rounds to see how it performs, but then loaded up the rest for storage. Given that the powder went bad in storage, I wouldn't want to load it for stored ammo either. Since it ALL went bad, I probably won't buy any more 4166 at all. The 4895s seem a shit ton more shelf stable, but I don't have much left. I have some 4064, but not enough to load 1k rounds. The monetary loss sucks, but I'm not sunk. The thing that burns is that the LGS hasn't had anything on the shelf in months/years, and $30 cans of power are now close to $70 when they do have it.

> the bad powder made one nice fireball.

>>62849053
I'm gonna reorg my storage so that all my primers are stored separately. This is the first time I had powder go bad, and I haven't always had the best storage conditions. The powder wasn't new, but also wasn't all that old. Some of the power I still have was stored out in the garage for years in both the cold of winter and the heat of summer and it's still fine. I knew powder could go bad, but I didn't think it would take out hundreds in other components.

>>62849200
I think I take it for granted that in northern Arizona in the high desert I don’t have to worry nearly as much about moisture issues…. Godspeed man.

I have 1,000 230gr .452 LRN and 1lb of Titegroup powder. Charges seem to range from 4.0gr to 4.8gr. I'm thinking of going w/ 4.4gr right in the middle. 1.200" overall cartridge length. Thoughts? I'm loading single stage w/ my RCBS RS5 press.

>>62850170
Work some up in .2 or .3 grain intervals and bulk load whatever feels like it cycles your gun best?

>>62850410
Yeah I've loaded plenty of 230gr for .45 auto, but I've never tried Titegroup before.

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COME ON DOWN TO ANONS RELOADING BASEMENT
WE GOT
>230gr LRN
>230gr Berry's plated
>230gr FMJs
WE GOT ALL THE 230 GRAIN ROUND NOSE PROJECTILES DOWN AT ANONS RELOADING BASEMENT
BE THERE!

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Just finished work on a 300WM 175g match load. I was getting sub MOA groups so I'll work on neck tension to draw it in a lil' bit more.

Does anyone have a good load for 175G match king bullets? I obviously bout a few hundred after getting my 300 set right. I was using TAC and wasn't impressed, I have tried 4064 in the past but it wasn't as good as what people have said; maybe my powder is just shit, that happened to be my oldest bottle.

Also loaded up a shit ton of 32WIN Special light loads. I just like to take my leverr gun and hit some steel. I had to neck up 30-30 brass for a few years before I finally found some 32 brass at a gun show a few months ago.

>>62853427
should say, looking for 175G load for 308, the 300WM is looking good.

Bump

>>62846805
As a newbie who hasn’t bought any tools yet, what are some of the brands to get and some to stay away from? I was thinking of getting a RCBS press. And what’s a consistent scale that would be recommended?

>>62856260
>RCBS press
Would recommend.
>consistent scale
I have a Hornady G3-1500. I bought it back when they were $50, seem like $65 now. No problems so far

Bump. No reloaders on /k/?

>>62859079
All my tools, brass, and bullets are in storage and have been for months while I waited for my house to be built. I closed on it today, should be setup in another couple weeks.

>>62859079
Im waiting for black friday/cyber monday to get some stuff

>>62859079
There’s a few. What I keep seeing is everyone seems to have their own speciality with not tons of overlap. Currently planning on getting into casting and punching out gas checks because 454 and 500 mag rounds are pricey…

>>62850837
It’s really gonna be the same process. I’ve found for 45 acp it’s a lot less about how accurate the exact round is gonna be, and more about what my 1911 feels like it really likes to cycle on. Not too light, but not overly snappy where it’s bashing back and forth..

>>62853338
>>230gr Berry's plated
I recently got a deal on Xtreme 230gr, and I've found it to be slightly superior in accuracy. There are also deals on it more, I got 1k for $103 after tax.

Classic Lee Loader in 9mm with a cheap Chinese rubber mallet for hammering away, currently making Winchester 124gr FMJ over 4.9-5.2gr of Winchester Autocomp, Winchester primers, 1776 brass. Got a Lee Autoprime because I blew up some primers trying to seat them, got a Frankford Arsenal digital scale for measuring, and cheap no-name digital calipers for measuring COAL after seating.

I can crank out a round in 4 minutes even with double and triple checking everything, lots of banging and hammering around, very unga bunga caveman way to reload. It's super fun.

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On a side note… it’s really weird that I ordered Hornady 27 shell holders for my 444 marlin experiments… but for whatever reason it will hold a 45 LC just as well as a #32… but 444 won’t fit in a #32…. Weirdness…

>>62860009
>124gr FMJ
I get you're having fun, but why just 9mm 124gr. I could get 135gr or 147gr, but aren't you actually paying more per round, especially with proper FMJ bullets over copper coated? I've also never paid for 9mm brass, I've just always gotten 1000s of pieces free at the range. That's a great way to get your costs down too.

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Also finally remembered to order an organizer…. Since I want to get into casting, and I’ve had a few cases now where I used up all the bullets of one type I had and needed to pull one apart for reference, I’m going to put together a bullet reference library.. save a physical example, and probably do a spreadsheet with an average length and grain weight of 10…. Then I can record that with my saved loads for future reference… organizer was like 10$. The organizational autism was free.

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Also….. soon…

>>62860039

I'm buying brass because the Classic Lee is literally a standalone handheld die you bang a rubber mallet against, it only neck resizes so if you just grab other people's brass it may be too stretched to chamber properly in your gun.

As for everything else you mentioned? California. It's actually cheaper/legally easier (lmao mandatory in person background check for ammo) to reload even 115gr 9mm FMJs now. And that's terrible.

>>62860073
>it only neck resizes so if you just grab other people's brass it may be too stretched to chamber properly in your gun.
Most Factory brass will take a shitload of shooting before it stretches to the point it won't chamber. A cutter is also only $10 and works with any electric drill.

I want to start casting boolits for my air gun (Umarex Hammer .510)
The forums recommend this mould
https://nightgalaxy.com/reloading-supplies/bullet-casting/lee-mold-dc-50cal-250-90394
Besides this, what else do I need?

>>62860096
Generally it's the chamber dimensions themselves, not the length.
Shoot in a looser chamber, that brass won't chamber in a tighter one without full length resizing.

>>62860115
Something to melt lead.. don’t think you have to pan lube for an air gun…. Wood dowel to knock the mold with. Possibly some kind of sizing die, but again I don’t know how that works for an air gun…

>>62860137
like for a muzzleloader i guess. I don't think they need lube.

I cranked out 30 6.5prc loads the other day. Virgin lapua brass, fed 210m, 58.2gr of N565 and berger 156 EOL's at 2.955 coal going at 2920ish fps.

Also prepped 30 300wm hornady cases for a shoulder bump and 30 308 cases for a shoulder bump as well.

>>62860096
>>62860132

Basically this. I'm firing my handloads out of an old Ruger P94 which I expect has rather generous chamber dimensions. Since my Classic doesn't full length resize, it's a small problem. I only really got into handloading because of California being absolute assholes when it comes to buying ammo. Unless the local chain FFL (which isn't really local) has a big sale, I'm kinda stuck spending about $30 per box for 9mm FMJ. The FFLs have us by the balls and they know it.

>>62859079
I'm waiting until I have a 6 ARC rifle to start reloading. I just have a supply of primers for now.

>>62853338
I read where Berry's bullets, some of them, have velocity limits. I am curious if the velocity limit is because the bullet is soft and its not the actual velocity, but the high velocity caused the bullet to spin faster and its the spinning the caused the bullet to fragment. Eh?

>>62860268
If they’re plated then generally it’s because the plating starts coming off at higher velocities…. Hornady 500 xtp mag rounds max out at 2000 fps for example.. doesn’t mean they won’t shoot, but they don’t recommend it and can’t guarantee that it will work properly.. emailed them a while back asking if I could try using them in 500 bushwacker.

>>62859986
>1k for $103
I'll look into them. I paid $160 for 1k of Berry's, but that was off the shelf prices from a Runnings in my area.
>>62860268
They have regular plated rated at 1250fps and "thick" plated rated at 1500fps. I'm not too worried about .45 auto but .357 through my lever action I make sure to use thick plated or load specifically for a longer barrel.

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Is there a /k/ommando guide for loading or at least a recommended source for a starter guide? What tools and such you need, what Brad's are good (all I know is are Hornady and Lee)? I don't know a lot about it and I want to learn more. I have a surpressed .357 lever and I can't really find many options for subsonic ammo. There is Buffalo bore for some low flash lighter ammo as an option I haven't tried, they're kind of expensive. I don't recall if it's actually subsonic. There is a lot of cowboy action loads which I think might actually be subsonic, but they're all bare lead for that hobby and from what I know you don't want to shoot bare lead through suppressors, you want jacketed bullets or they get really really dirty. I have wanted to try it for some time but I don't know where to begin and I'm terrified of causing a squib since my goal is lighter subsonic loads. Gotta get this threaded one of these days too. Hee yaw.

>>62846805
I've been looking into reloading for a while now, is there a common cartridge recommended to start with? I'm just going to be using a lee loader to mess with loadings a little bit. I've got a .308, 9, 45 and 40

>>62862597
not much demand for light 357 when 38spl exists
easy stuff to load though, 3gr of whatever fast pistol powder and whatever bullet
bullseye red dot and titewad are all good
powdercoated lead should be fine for your muffler, wax lubed is the dirty stuff

>>62862645
308 would be better for the lee loader
but get the $70 lee bench press set, don't waste money on the classic loader set

>>62860260
I CANT FUCKING WAIT FOR 338ARC

>>62863853
If you ever decide to upgrade, a Forster co-ax is worth the money… and you don’t need all the shell holders….

Imagine not reloading

>>62846805
Based. I also use an ancient Pacific press (one where you pull the arm up to move the ram, and it's not reversible). I use it to load 32 acp, 7.5x55 and 7.5x54. Soon to be 7.7 jap

I started collecting my 7.7 jap brass so I can eventually reload. Can anyone suggest a decent reloading setup? I know I need the press, dies, powder, primers and bullets but aside from the bullets I have zero idea about what a good setup looks like. st

>>62859079
I reload 6.5x50 and 7.7 Arisaku, last time I reloaded 45 acp every shot I took the powder blew back in my face. Reloading for rare calibers is one thing, fuck reloading common calibers

>>62865870
>last time I reloaded 45 acp every shot I took the powder blew back in my face
git gud

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>>62859079
.380, 9mm, 38/357, 40/10mm, 45 acp&gap, 44mag, 556, 243, 25-06, 260, 270, 7mm mag, 30-30, 308, 30-06, 300 win mag, & 338 win mag. I think that's all.

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>>62846805
Sweet press. Have a vintage bonanza for an extra press. Works pretty well.

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>>62863853
A man of taste & distinction I see.

>>62866245
Hell yeah. My dad is an RCBS man and so am I.

>>62846805
I want to design a totally new centerfire cartridge but I'm having a hard time deciding how much internal case capacity it should have.
Is there any way to calculate how much case capacity is ideal for a bullet weight traveling at a certain velocity?
For instance, if I want to make a 62gr projectile travel at 1,000-1,100 FPS, is there a formula for figuring that out or would it be better to just compare it to existing cartridges?
And if I design it with a larger than necessary internal volume, will that have negative consequences if I do not utilize all that space?

>>62867441
Generally when you make a new cartridge you want to tailor it around a particular platform. The best wildcats are the ones that maximize that available action.
This brings COAL considerations, PSI considerations, and how you want it to headspace[rim, shoulder, mouth, belt(pls no)].

For example, I did experiments using GRT to try to maximize 357 caliber performance in the winchester 1892 platform(particularly the R92).
It came with COAL considerations(1.880" in the 454 model), pressure considerations(65kpsi), and headspace considerations(rimmed, 44mag,45colt,454 all have the same rim size).
So in theory a 357-454 cartridge would propel the pistol bullets to ridiculous velocities, but the 358 rifle bullets wouldn't feed.
The 357-45C would be the next best, losing only 100fps to the 454 parent case, but gaininh the ability to use .358 rifle bullets meant for 35 Remington.
It's all a give and take as long as you design it around a particular action.

>>62866864
Good stuff. I have two of their presses, brass boss, & charge master lite. Love them all. The bench mount primer that I posted has been solid too. Has surprisingly good feel to it.

finally ordered a hornady bullet comparator for my 5.56
managed 2858 avg with an es of 14 and sd of 5.6 shooting RMR's 75gr out of my 18in ar but the groups were shit because i was trying to load for coal instead of BTO

>>62865870
>last time I reloaded 45 acp every shot I took the powder blew back in my face
I've loaded probably 20k rounds of 45ACP in my day. Using multiple powders, tons of different projectiles, and all with my $25 Lee Die set. How did you fuck it up that bad?

>>62867605
>bench mount primer
I'm not familiar w/ it. Make, model, part number(s)? I don't mind the RCBS hand priming tool but I'm always looking to see if the grass is greener on the other side.

>>62867566
I would be designing it in conjunction with a totally new design of firearm, so I was planning on getting the cartridge hashed out first.

>>62867711
RCBS automatic priming tool. 09460 If you like your hand primer it might not be worth switching though. This was just an available upgrade for me compared to the on press priming I was doing.

>>62867441
22 hornet with a faster twist barrel
alternatively; 5.7x28

>>62867731
oh
legos are probably more your speed
the really big ones so you can't swallow them accidentally

>>62867930
Hmm... after watch a video it doesn't seem like it would save me much time. I have a single stage press now (RS5) and the $ for an auto-primer seems like it would be better spent on a multi-stage press in the future. Cool contraption though.

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>>62867982
Yep. Was an upgrade for me that just happened to be on the shelf when I was out shopping. Also have some more green pics. (Sorry about the quality. I live in a cave)

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>>62868049
>>62868055
>>62868074
>I am an RCBS man
>reloading e everything I can
This isn't how I store all my hardware, just for the pic I set it out here.

>>62868225
Nice. How do you like the swager?

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>>62868352
I have yet to use it lol it was just recommended to have one.
I mostly reload .38spl, 9x19mm, .357mag and .45 auto. I loaded .30-30 and .223 maybe 10 years ago. I'm sitting on 2000pcs of new Starline .45 super brass and 4lbs of power pistol that I haven't touched.
I have no rifle powders or primers, maybe 500 bullets for .30-30 and 100 .311s for 7.62x54R.
Since I carry a .45 that's mostly what I shoot.

>>62846805
My full length resizing dye has a casing stuck in it hella hard, send help

I've tried pliers and everything the casing is just shredding instead

>>62868424
Oh. Ok. I got the crimp removal cutters plus the power station to save wear & tear on my hands. Watched videos on the swagers, but never used one.

>>62868468
They make case removal kits. Basically just a tap & die with spacers. Worth the investment even if only needed a couple times.(Hopefully never)

>>62868451
Sorry. Last post was meant for you.

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>>62868352
it sucks, the pin that goes in the case mouth always crumples because it is a tiny little shank

>>62868479
just get a 1/4-20 and a 5/16-18 tap
stack of washers and a couple bolts
same deal
>>62868468
yeah cutting them out with the case mouth deburring tool is the way to go

>>62868451
which manufacturer?
if the decapping pin isn't threaded you can use it as a punch to hammer the case out
if it is a threaded decapping pin you can kinda do that too but it is going to ruin the expander ball shank which can usually be replaced

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>>62862597
All you need to know

I’ve been reloading for about 9 years now. I’ve reloaded over 20 calibers. Straight walled stuff like 30 Carbine, .38 special, .357 mag. Bottle neck cartridges. Started at .223, reloaded tons of milsurp calibers, and high powered rounds up to 30-06. I’ve never had a stuck case in the thousands of rounds I’ve reloaded. I recently bought a used set of .308 dies, and my god I’ve had 5 stuck cases within 200 rounds I’ve tried to put through the resizing die. I tried lubing the shit out of the cases, I tried commercial .308 and various 7.62 cases. All the fucking same. I’m pretty sure there must be something wrong with the resizer. It’s a Lee set, but I’ve never had a problem with any Lee die set I’ve had. I bought a new resizing die so we will see if the problem persists.

>>62869328
>I’m pretty sure there must be something wrong with the resizer. It’s a Lee
Get RCBS. I only use Lee for their factory crimp dies.

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Currently casting a bunch of 230gr .45 slugs. I’ve got 300 pieces of 45 ACP brass coming on Monday and I have to give “my” Loadmaster back to my friend soon

>>62869347
Their sizing die sets work pretty well. And I have their quick trim for 500 mag.

>>62869411
Hey uhh you got good ventilation there right, fren?

>>62867938
Why does that warrant a snarky response?

>>62868530
are you using the correct size pin? two pins come with the kit. i havent had any problems with mine

>>62869500
yeah

>>62869565
reddit might be more your speed breh

>>62869596
Based yeah poster

>>62869583
yeah the bigger one is the one that's all bent up
the smaller one will punch out boxer "large" pockets

>>62869610
I just have a novel idea for a firearm that I would like to hash out. It would work best with a custom cartridge, so that's what I want to design. What is so strange about that?

>>62869677
You are never going to get a firearm off the ground first of all.
You seem to know fuckall about designing cartridges and you don't know why existing platforms are picked beforehand.
I can't fix your brand of retarded and you don't deserve any more responses.

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>>62868424
Starline is based. They have always been known for quality pistol brass. Their rifle stuff has been working extremely well for me too.

>>62869697
I obviously know very little about cartridge design; that's why I'm asking questions on a board specifically dedicated to weapons discussion you stupid cunt.
The issue with "picking an existing platform" is that the concept I am working on would be almost entirely pointless unless it's accompanied by the new design I am working on. I am trying to arrive on a desirable cartridge design before I dedicate a lot of design work to this. I want to avoid designing it with an unoptimized cartridge which is an extremely obvious and reasonable concern.

>>62869745
What are you trying to do with your firearm? 22lr and 50bmg are both fantastic rounds for their respective purposes.. trying to “design an optimized round” without a set goal in mind is just going to run you around in circles… State your design criteria.

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>>62869781
I have a set goal in mind and a concept for what I want it to do and be. I was actually in the process of screencapping my current fusion360 designs so I could display them but >>62869697 is such a perfect example of useless niggercattle flesh demeaning someone actually trying to do something that I'm not going to post them.

>>62869739
I'm so glad they make .45 super brass so I don't have to cut down and ream .308 brass. Absolutely worth the cost to save me a tremendous amount of time.

>>62869809
Honestly a low effort post with no good details other than “I want to make a cool new caliber” is pretty much destined to be bait. What you put in is what you’ll get out. Right now I have two wildcat ideas that I’d personally like to try. One would be necking a 50 caliber pistol round down to .452…. That would require gunsmithing something to shoot it… likely a BFR. It’s a long way off. The other is to cut down 45LC or 454 brass to 45 acp length to make pseudo 45 acp rounds I can run in a 45lc revolver without worrying about moon clips or if the rim is too thick…. Also 454 brass would last pretty much forever cut down since it’s meant for significantly higher pressure…. And would also use small primers which are easier to find than large primers where I’m at… it’s strictly for fun and plinking.

>>62869809
Or maybe he's just a fucking retard who hasn't spent even a single solitary second thinking about what a fucking dunningkruger know-nothing motherfucker he is.
>I'M GOING TO MAKE A NOVEL FIREARM AND NOVEL WILDCAT
>how do?
You're also a fucking retard for knowing even less than him to believe he was being genuine. Stupid fucking nigger.

>>62869838
45 Cowboy Special has existed for longer than you ever thought about.

>>62869616
did you set the die up correctly? the pin should be screwed all the way in to the die

>>62869838
If I wanted to bait someone I'd just post a Ukraine thread. I have no reason to enter a niche reloading thread that probably has 10 posters to post the most tame "bait" known to man. I was polite and forthcoming up until >>62867938 >>62869610 >>62869697 decided to act like a snarky faggot.

>>62869889
You were told exactly what to fucking do within the first two posts.
START WITH THE GUN, every aspect of a cartridge's performance and dimensions will be determined by the firearms it's chambered in.
You stupid fucking nigger, kick the chair.

>>62869863
>>how do?
You literally did not even ask. You just went straight into the
>um, reddit?
>sweetie
>like literally um, no?
deflective faggotry. Not an ounce of testosterone in your body. You interact like an obese hispanic woman with 2" acrylic nails.

>oh no massa, I's plannin' on makin dat boolit fuhst, den worry bout da gun!

>>62869899
Neither the gun nor the cartridge exist, so that brings up the question as to what I start with first. The most prudent plan appears to be
>1. draw up what you want this cartridge to accomplish on paper
>2. work on cartridge design to meet these goals
>3. design gun to cartridge parameters
If I designed the gun around a non-existent cartridge, that would almost assuredly result in me having to redesign it.

>>62869921
Hey anon, what's the action?
What steel are you going to use?
You got access to a lathe and mill?
Who's going to heat treat it?
Does your action accept barrel blanks or does it need particular fixtures towards the chamber?
Take your ball and go home, no one is interested in helping you designing a cartridge that shoots 62gr bullets at speeds that they act like a needle for a gun you haven't designed.

>>62869871
Sure but the brass is out of stock everywhere and if I cut down 454 casings I can also mess around with loading absurdly large hardcasts without worrying about pressure as much.

>>62869933
>Hey anon, what's the action?
>What steel are you going to use?
>You got access to a lathe and mill?
>Who's going to heat treat it?
Incredibly disingenuous.
All of those are irrelevant until I have the cartridge hashed out so I can design the gun to fire it.
If you asked Henry Ford about how he intended to put a mass-produced automobile in every driveway when he was toying with rudimentary gasoline engine blueprints you would be met with the answer "I don't know yet" because it is obviously way too early in the design process to expect those to be concrete details that are set in stone.

>>62869958
Nah, these are really basic, pragmatic questions.
What do you think your action is going to do that isn't presently available?

>>62869958
He had a pretty fixed idea of an appropriate level of speed, toughness and reliability that he paired with a price point that gave him a much wider potential range of buyers… he did not do this by accident.

>you don't understand, I'm actually like the Henry Ford of guns
>I just have no idea what I'm doing

>>62869964
>Nah, these are really basic, pragmatic questions.
That's true, but though they are "basic, pragmatic questions" this is still way too early in the design process to answer them.
>What do you think your action is going to do that isn't presently available?
I was actually going to post my design ideas/goals and progress in this thread, but everyone would prefer to shit on my ideas without knowing anything about them, so it seems pointless.

>>62869973
I have some basic design parameters as well. That doesn't make what >>62869933 said any less disingenuous.

>>62869979
I'm not claiming to be "the Henry Ford of guns" I'm saying that his questions are intentionally disingenuous because they're obviously not something I can answer yet. How do you expect me to answer "what's the action" when the gun isn't designed yet? Things like materials and machining are still incredibly up in the air.

>>62869999
Welcome to the internet anon. 1st time?

>>62870004
Unfortunately not. I am aware of how shit 4chan has become for discussion, but I expected something like a reloading general to be less gay.

>>62870011
move on and either post some criteria if you want to discuss theoretical rounds, or leave then.

>>62870019
I probably will. Unfortunately, this thread has too many people interested in shitflinging rather than a polite discussion. I just really despise the kind of person who is so readily willing to put down novel ideas while knowing next to nothing about them. If someone has a problem with the actual idea, that's fine, but I got two posts in before somebody felt the need to chimp out for no reason.

>>62870030
Get the fuck out of here.

>>62870037
Cry about it.

>>62870040
Take your narcissistic injury elsewhere.
You aren't entiteled to polite discussion when you demonstrated you have no idea what you're doing.
>I'm Henry Ford-tier genius with excellent ideas
>but I absolutely can't tell you anything specific about them, not even about the reciever

>>62870030
This isn’t an airport. No need to announce your departure.

>>62870045
But anon.. those are but minor details, trifles really compared with the lightning strike of genius in creating a whole new cartridge for an entire new firearm that is revolutionary, I simply need input to be sure it is the most optimized it can be.

>>62870045
>>I'm Henry Ford-tier genius with excellent ideas
I never said that. At all. Ever.
If you believe otherwise that would indicate that your reading comprehension is on par with a 2nd grader.
I made a comparison to illustrate how stupid >>62869933's post is.

>>but I absolutely can't tell you anything specific about them, not even about the reciever
I actually could tell you some more specifics about how I want the design to play out, and show you the CAD designs I have for several cartridge iterations, and a rudimentary magazine mockup, but if you read my posts (again, poor reading comprehension) you would know that I am choosing not to, because most of you choose to fling shit for no reason. Pearls before swine and whatnot.

>>62870049
That's fine.

>>62870054
What contention do you have with what I said?

>>62870067
>my unique GENIUS designs will put Browning to shame
>but I certainly can't tell you anything about them

>>62870078
>>my unique GENIUS designs will put Browning to shame
few know this
>>but I certainly can't tell you anything about them
Unfortunately, my CIA contact forbade me from telling the Bangladeshi shipbreaking forum any more about my secret 62gr doomsday device.

>>62870071
Just the part where you haven’t said and continue to dodge anything of substance.

>>62870089
My god…. It’s so… optimized…

>>62870091

Were >>62867938 >>62869610 >>62869697 of substance?

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>>62870109
>look at the beautiful rectangular shape
>the sharp clean lines
>the lovely unfinished, untreated steel
>a reciever that would make Ford wish he could put it on his assembly line

>>62870109
Garbage in begets garbage out anon. Good night and good luck.

>>62870119
>Oh my God
>It even has chrome lining

>>62870129
That is true, but I'm not the one who started the shitflinging. It has been fun though.

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What is a good reloading kit for someone new to the hobby?

>>62869809
>useless niggercattle flesh
Sounds like you honestly.
What do you know about wildcats?

>>62860268
Thin plated bullets are to be treated like regular lead bullets. You don't need to lube them, but if you push them too fast, they wont engage the rifling and smear the rifling with with lead.

>>62870204
RCBS or Hornady if you want to be serious. Start w/ a single stage press. Lee if you're on a tight budget and don't intend to load more than a few hundred every year. Lee's aluminum parts don't have the long term longevity that others do.

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A rare appearance of my kitty in my reloading shop.
She almost never comes down into the basement.

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>>62870580
Bench since I figured someone would ask eventually.

>>62870586
Simple & clean. I dig it.

>>62869816
their +p brass is thicker in the web than their super
the super is standard .45 web but harder brass
it's for consistency in case capacity and load data with all the other brass out there

>>62870586
I'm so fucking jealous of your basement and workbench.

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>>62870616
Thanks.
>>62870774
Good to know. I was mostly going to load it as a glorified +P load w/ "+p+" types being for use in my LWA G21 6 inch and probably USP. I wouldn't use the pissing hot loads in my P220 even in conjunction w/ a 24lbs spring on account of the alloy frame. Eventually I want a S&W 625 also for super loads.
>>62870795
Lol thanks. It takes up about 1/ of my basement but it's worth it.

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>>62870869
>LWA G21 6 inch
Picrel I wasn't just going to tease you all. I have 4 9" barrels I'm eventually going to send to my gunsmith to have him cut to various lengths and port at least 2.

>>62870204
>>62856260

Rcbs or hornady like>>62870557 said. Lee makes ok stuff but the aluminum stuff wears out.

I'm a bolt action guy (>>62860171) and i mainly have rcbs
>press
>auto primer
>powder throw
>powder trickler
>rcbs micrometer

Reddit type s match bushing dies
>308
>6.5prc
>300 wm

Misc
>gempro 250 digital scale
>8" Mitutoyo digital caliper
>Mitutoyo inside ball micrometer

Hornady
>shoulder bump guages
>full comparator set

Little crow gun works
>wtf2 with appropriate trim chambers

I watched gunblue490's reloading videos and panhandle precision's reloading videos to get a mix of what suits me. I may get a the hornady 3-in-1 power case trimmer, but that would be in a year or two.

>>62870204
>>62856260
>>62871926
An additional note: books. Get two different manufacturers with multiple volumes available. Buy a current one and try to also get older versions of the same books. I have Speer volume 13, 10 and Hornady volume 10 and 6(I think 6?).
Why? Always cross reference and cross reference again. The older books may not be as useful in terms of some powders not being made anymore, but ones that stuck around like Winchester 231 for pistols may help to figure out true max and minimum loads since current books tend to not go as far in each direction.

>.45 Auto mixed range pickup brass
>230gr LRN - wax coated bullet
>4.4gr Titegroup
>Winchester primer
>1.20" overall cartridge length
>Lee factory crimp
Going to shoot 50rds tomorrow though my LWA and M&P before committing to finishing the other 950 pieces of brass I have primed just to make sure they work lol.

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Won a Hornady progressive at a shooting match and finally went in on reloading, started on .45 and am now experimenting with .357. Love my little setup. I'm not doing anything fancy or wild yet.

>>62872677
I need one so bad, but that is far in the future.

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Does anyone have any good load data or starting points for heavier 308 bullets?

I can't get my 175G Match kings to group smaller than 2" with tac, 4064, or RL22 and it's making my feel like a piece of shit.

>>62872677
Hey congrats!

>>62873485
Barrel twist? May be better w/ 168s?

>>62873606
I think it's 1/10 but I may be wrong. I got it cheap secondhand from some geezer who did the thickest rattlecan job on it and completely covered all the roll marks.

>>62871926
You mean Redding right?

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>>62872677
If you pick up a bottle of h110 you can make some pretty nice and spicy 357 with a LOT of boom. I used up a bunch of 140 gn hollow points on 17.8 gns of h110 at 1.580 Oal and get about 1400 gps out of them in my Blackhawk.

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>What are you reloading?
I usually post over in /msg/ but currently prepping next round of .220 brass for 6mm Lee Navy loads

>>62866008
>>62867660
I loaded everything using powder and projectiles as seen in the Lee load data, thanks for your help you assholes.

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Can't wait for when I next go to the range to test these out.

Pretty sure I need to dump these in some soapy water and scrub afterwards, but man its going to be a fun day.

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Never reloaded before. I want to make the best 44 mag bullet for a 20" barrel.

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>>62868650
You posted the wrong version of this pic.
Here's the original.

>>62874482
Then you need to load with a fast-burning single base rifle powder.
Suggested powders:
Vihtavouri N110
Hodgdon H110
Winchester 296

Suggested bullets:
240-300gr
Pick a bullet type appropriate for your application.

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I was thinking about berry's bullets 240 grain flat points because I've heard they get absolutely insane fps from 20" barrel, 1800+.

that shit's wild

>>62874547
>berry's bullets
>1800FPS
No. El-Cheapo copper plated bullets are really only suited to mild loads.
If you're loading to nuclear specs you'll need to use bullets with real jackets.
Plated bullets tend to just smear themselves into the rifling when you try to push them that hard, they aren't strong enough to handle the forces.

>>62865870
you're loading too low, not enough pressure to seal cartridge to chamber, the other guys who commented on your post don't know shit

>>62873640
Yes...my mistake. Running on 5 hours of sleep in the last 48.

>>62846805
How hard is it to reload shotgun shells compared to other rounds?

>>62875165
It's not technically difficult, just weird.
Very unforgiving compared to reloading handgun and rifle cartridges.
It's one of those things were you have to follow the instructions perfectly, or else it won't work right.

Say for example you find load data for a shot shell, you use the exact same shot and powder charges, but you use 3 different wads, the results can look like:
Wad1. Squib, powder fails to ignite fully and produces a pathetic pop that barely gets the shot out of the barrel.
Wad2. Dangerous over-pressure and a smeared primer.
Wad3. Works perfectly.
All these results are attainable with the exact same shot and powder charge, just different wads.

>>62874482
Speer, Hornady, and Sierra all make good jacketed bullets.
Swift A frames are a bonded bullet, easy expanding but a tough shank. They are stupid expensive.

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22gr Imr3031 behind 55gr ttsx bullet. Fired from a Savage Axis 223 1:9 22". Through and through. Lung shot, ran 20 yards. Second deer shot with this load.

>>62871926
This anon gives good advice. Comparators are definitely a would recommend. You would be surprised how much your brass gets over worked by setting sizing dies from factory instructions. About . 002 bump is all you need. Might also want a second press just for crimping or bullet pulling with collets. Another anon mentioned Lee factory crimp dies. Easy and fast to set up. Would recommend.

>>62875569
Still not legal to hunt deer with .22 cal where I'm at. For any anons interested would recommend Sierra bthp gamekings. Not the highest bc but good Lord do they do damage.

bullet comparator and more lube came in today, time to finally make loads that dont suck

>>62872446
>1.20" overall cartridge length
All worked fine, but noticed that the 'shoulder'(?) of the lead bullet was slightly below the case. Playing w/ the seating depth I came to the conclusion that 1.244" is better for the lead I have. 950rds left to load.

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Does anyone know where i can get some reasonably priced primers? Im mainly looking for small and large pistol primers but i also use small riffle sometimes too. Inflation sucks :(

>>62880140
Powder Valley
Target Sports
If there's a Runnings store by you they usually have good off the shelf prices.

Got my RCBS bench trimmer set up today lads
Finally, no more having to do shit by hand (or drill) with the lee hand tools

>>62880472
I had the same tool progression, reloading for ELR with that trimmer has been a game changer. Setting it once and getting consistent lengths made the price worth it, I even saved up for the 3 way cutter head for all the 30 calibers I shoot.

>>62881563
The Henderson looks really nice. I think Hornady just came out with an almost carbon copy of it too. Doubt if I'll be dropping the money for either one anytime soon though.

>>62881563
That's good to hear then, my next purchase is a 3 way cutter head as well since I've got plenty of 30 cal cartridges I reload for. Recently picked up a howa in 30-06 to fuck around with.

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I went to range to test my batch of reloaded 8mm and fuck me, I really need to get an aftermarket trigger for my yugo I know I'm close to getting that pet load but every time I lose my focus because of its horrible trigger pull, even my swedish mauser's trigger was miles better, wasn't even scoped and still grouped better than the yugo. This is the second time I made the same batch and really wont bother doing a third until I get that trigger installed.

>>62882216
If the trigger doesn't fix it might want to try H4350, IMR 4831, or H4831sc. Best of luck anon.

>>62849200
my FLGS has had powder for years. your gunshop must not tell their reps theyre alive, theyre pushing for orders.

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Bumping with an impulse purchase. After all these years I can finally make my own nugget food.

>>62880472
>>62881563
so how fast would you say you could bulk trim something like 5.56. i was thinking about getting the mark 7 trimmer so i could trim faster than the lee drill chuck one

>>62881843
if i was doing more volume i'd get one of those henderson trimmers. the most i've ever needed to trim in an afternoon was just a bit more than 200 300WM that I had fireformed and saved up from breaking in my barrel. That doesn't mean I'm not going to watch for the price wars between them and hornady this black friday.

>>62881964
I am so heavy handed with my manual de-burr and chamfer that having it set helped me get away from knife edging my case necks. I even fucked myself up when I was doing a bunch of case prep with bourbon one afternoon when I stepped on one that perfectly sliced a 30Cal sample out of my foot.

>>62886452
trimming that much 556 in the RCBS would be a pain in the dick, I ran through about 500 556 cases in one sitting and their small size makes them a pain to drop in and cut quickly. It's nicer than using the drill and lee cutter method but I would save up shekels to get a real powered one.

>>62886707
mark 7 it is
down the line whenever i build out a prs rifle in something like 6xc or 6.5x47 lapua you think id be able to call them up and have them make a cartridge specific trim die? i really wont want to hand trim everything again like im doing with 5.56

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>>62886682
Is your 300wm a hunting rifle or a target rifle? And when do you decide you need a barrel?

I've got a 300wm x-bolt that im thinking of selling and going full custom, strictly because of my plans of shooting way more. I dont want to have to fuck around with rebarrling and finding a different stock. Is the barrel cooked after 1200? Or do you just seat the bullets out further when the throat is partially burned?

>>62889762
There's a couple things you can do, like you said you can seat the bullets further out.
If you genuinely plan to shoot more, plan to use heavier, longer bullets. The advantage is twofold:
1. There's less powder in general to burn.
2. The powder that does burn, is done more before the bullet's bearing surface makes it past the lands.

If you can find a lighter load, using a slightly faster powder, that has a similar point of impact as your heavier load then you should practice with the lighter one.

>>62889783
Hmm...those are good points. Im lobbing 212 eld-x's at 2830 fps using h4831. Ill take my time and not let the barrel get too hot then

>>62889904
Yep, a barrel can last quite a long while and those bullets will save lands for sure.