So as of today, 3 passenger aircraft have been hit with bullets flying over the capital of haiti. This is the 4th incident of Haitian gangs attempting to down an aircraft using small arms Ill share the attacks and if any anons could recognize what bullets may have hit themhttps://x.com/fl360aero/status/1856486583915987430
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>each time you fly over the city random people try to shoot down your aircraft with small armshow would you defend a civilian aircraft against this tactic?
>>62859492Blow them the fuck up
Just close it off and block it off. No one gets in, no one gets out. Assist the Dominican Republic to make the border the new DMZ with autonomous deathbots.
>>62859536Yeah I feel bad for the kenyans fighting
>>62859492gain altitudecircle backrelease payloadreturn to flight path and buckle seat belts
>>62859473I think the humane thing to do at this point is depopulating Haiti
I hope Trump just leaves them fucking be. Their IQs are too low to run a nation, so stop forcing them to be one. They’ll settle down into a simple peasant agrarian type society run by a big boss type figure, and beyond that they can be the DR’s problem. When a strong boss arrises he’ll secure an airport on his own. Please please just leave these people alone for once.Also, what happened to those African troops / police? I guess they didn’t work out?
>>62859603Kenyan police are operating the best they can, capturing a lot of ports and police stations but have so few men its impossible to keep anything secureThey have 400 men to cover a city of 5 million
nuke haiti
>>62859492Thermite. Like, 5 tons of thermite on top of any location that shots come from.
>>62859473those are just speed holes
>>62859603>what happened to those African troops / police? I guess they didn’t work out?There were supposed to be 2500 to start, maybe increasing to 4000 or 5000.However, the supplies & aid promised to them have been delayed and held up (thank MAGAts in Congress), and they've only put about 400-500 on the ground so far.Also, they're doing really fucking well considering they have less than 20% of the force they were supposed to have in addition to getting the shaft on promised support/weapons/supplies.But, yeah, orangeman will take a massive shit on the entire country so he has something to whine about when people try to escape and stay alive somewhere else that's safer.
>>62859639>thank MAGAts in CongressYou're welcome. Fuck Haiti Saving every single Haitian is not worth even $20.
>>62859639….wait, isn’t that a Kenyan operation? WTF does the US have to do with it?
>>62859639should use cluster munitions on these people as well
>>62859668international supply effort
>>62859647>Anon doesn't realize that having a heinously unstable shithole near the US is a bad thing which causes increasing instability in nearby countries
>>62859668US supplies vehicles like old police MRAPs, lack of proper protection against molotov cocktails is a big concern for the Kenyans.
>>62859603>RFK: total Big Agra subsidy of GMO cheap grains to the 3rd world death>result: - 4 billion actually useless eaters doing nothing to get us to the moon or shunt capital during the Cold War towards MADSaturnian Golden Ages are always attended by severity.
>>62859668The U.S. asked Kenya because white U.S. soldiers showing up in Haiti would have been racist and if the U.S. had sent only brown soldiers the left wing would have thrown a histrionics tantrum over how that was somehow super racism. It's an international effort, but primarily supplied & funded by the U.S. All countries involved agree that actual Africans from Africa is one of the few options to de-escalate and maybe have a prayer of a chance, and Kenya is one of about two African nations that isn't entirely inhabited and run by niggers. It wasn't just about asking Kenya to step up, Kenya has been looking for opportunities to step up to various international efforts (not just Haiti) so they can build their cred as a functioning democracy. Haiti is practically a designed opportunity in this regard.
>>62859647You realize the refugees are within raft distance of the US and not every state is gonna deport them + you're not gonna catch every illegal + deporting them to begin with costs taxpayer money right? Better to make sure it's livable than allow them to try to make it to the US. Hell if the coast guard finds them drowning they have a responsibility to safeguard their life>inb4 muh based trump will deport them allNaive motherfucker. There's no point to trying to build them up as a nation but ensuring they'll stay put is important
>>62859647Right here is the level of stupid retardation that needs to be purged from America. Utter, irredeemable moron take ... just like your moron god emperor.
>>62859639Unleash the Dominicans.Let them purify the island piece by piece
>>62859473they are doing this because it will now be too "dangerous" to deport Haitians
>>62859492it happens more often than you think in america, usually it's not a huge deal
>>62859473tell dominican republic they can annex all of haiti if they kill all the Hattians first
>>62859492Self defense Bofors L70 40mm autocannon.
>>62859945>>62860035>>62860040not my problem. fix your own country
>>62860221what was the point of this stupid blatant lie?
>>62860028Okay, so in reality the U.S. has to make it happen, as usual. So what’s the holdup? Biden couldn’t just send MRAPs and gear?
>>62860237They don't want it. You can clearly see the dividing line from space because Haiti is so deforested. They have no resources worth taking and the land has been raped.>>62860276Fucking retard.The US sends aid to other countries because it keeps the thirdies there instead of having them all trying to come here. It costs us money to repel them or deport them so we might as well fund an operation to get the situation under control before they try to come over here.
>>62860319thirdies come to the us anyway, dum-dum
>>62859473You could cover every square inch of that "country" in fire and nothing of value would be lost. They literally eat dirt because they are too stupid to work the land and grow crops. You could give them 2x literally everything they need to be self sufficient for the next century and in a month some unga bunga literal mother fucker warlord is going to be using it as a toilet or a bonfire. It's Somalia 2: Electric boogaloo, but somehow much worse. As soon as Trump is in if they keep doing this they're going to get a massive shitstorm for it, especially if a bullet actually hits someone onboard.Haiti absolutely infuriates me. I really truly in my heart of hearts do not believe you can peacefully fix that place, not even if you tried for a thousand years. It'd take near total extermination of the locals, which is absolutely tragic, followed by allowing the Dominican Republic or literally any interested party with a solid plan to take the now cleansed land.>>62859492Drones and attack choppers with clearance to hellfire anyone seen near the flight path with a weapon and no IR strobe. Alternatively, the objectively correct move of cutting all flights to and from Haiti and instituting a travel ban. If you absolutely had to then reroute flights to the Dominican Republic and have shuttle buses drop passengers off at the border.>>62859639Dear Leftist,It is likely you initially came here because you heard we generally support Ukraine and you thought we must agree with you on more than that because of partisanship. That is not the case. Please buy a suitable length of rope, learn how to tie a proper noose and properly anchor it, and become a good communist.Thanks, /k/.
>>62860341Yeah and people die in car accidents despite wearing seatbelts. Guess there's no reason to use them, right?
>>62860419listen, buddy. If haitians were all for fixing their country genuinely, I would support them. As they are right now, they are little better than animals. If they don't even have the courtesy to thank me for giving them my tax money, I want no part of this farce.
>>62860592Then I guess you'd prefer them as your new neighbors because that's where they're gonna end up instead retard
>>62860625they would come here anyway. getting gibs is easier than fixing your home
>>62860273Based
>>62859473Why would anything fly over Haiti in the first place? Except for UAVs doing gas bomb runs, of course.
>>62860035>rafting from haiti to floridaPlease fucking do it. I would love to see them all drown trying to make that trip.
>>62861194Bruh those are some of the most pleasant waters in the world. Its also something like ~80miles.
>>62860419What a fucking retarded attempt at an analogy.
>>62861185Idk
>>62860035Tell the Coast Guard to shoot them on sight.
>>62864014I wish they didAssholes deserve it
>>62860319>It costs money to stop them, so we had best just keep sending them money, even though they continually try to come here.Shoot on sight. What is the rest of the world gonna do? Cry and seethe?
>>62864027Yeah I think shooting at commerical and civilian flights constitutes being bombed
>>62860035>Better to make sure it's livableHaiti will never be livable as long as Haitians live there
>>62861576Getting lost in the Caribbean is as dangerous as getting lost in the Adirondack park, you're a fucking retard if you can find a way to get lost and starve/thirst. Don't even purify water, just drink it and go to a hospital.
>>62860035> if the coast guard finds them drowning they have a responsibility to safeguard their lifeThey are not American, so no.
>>62860347Their IQ is too low. Low-IQ populations can only be peasants, and the only way to have law and order in a peasant country is for there to a be an authoritarian state lording over them. The low-IQ person has to see police down the street when they step outside because that’s the only way you can control their behavior. That’s why when the Kenyan police showed up the gangs calmed down at first but when the police stayed in the good sections of town they lost the sense of fear of the police and proceeded with the gang shit. There has to be armed police on literally every corner if you want something like peace and quiet. Actually that WILL happen naturally as the power structure amongst the gangs shake out into a clear power hierarchy and the ruling warlord enforces order, but that peace won’t reach the neighborhood level and never will without a colonial-type civilization sitting on top of them like absolute kings and there no such civilizations left. Maybe China or North Korea could do it.
Also I REALLY wonder why the security force funding is supposedly short. Is it because the Kenyans or other partners stole the money and the payers don’t want to give them any more?
>>62860347>and nothing of value would be lost.t. assblasted frog still mad
>>62860643>2 or 3 people will show up anyway>so who cares if 500 show up!?insanity.
>>62859668>WTF does the US have to do with it?Kenyans are renting their police for US, so US doesn't have send its own troops in that shithole.>>62860299>So what’s the holdup? Biden couldn’t just send MRAPs and gear?MAGAtards in congress.
>>62861194They do it all the time lol. So do cubans. Not that dangerous.
>>62859945The Dominicans will keep them in check just fine, they have no projection capability so we won't get any retarded piracy attempts
>>62864745The dominicans are going to patrol haitian waters to stop them from leaving to countries that aren't domincia? News to me.
>>62864704>MAGAThat sounds like an excuse, but okay. What about the other partners like Canada? Well I’m a leaf so let’s check…> In March 2023, Canada announced $100 million to directly support the Haitian National Police.> Since February 2024, Canada has provided over $86 million to support the deployment of the Multinational Security Support Mission.….so from what I can gather from this is that the Haitians stole the $100m from 2023 and the Kenyans and/or other members stole all or part of the $86m in 2024. Or maybe they stole the US contribution and that $86m is what is paying for the limited deployment currently. I wish we had real journalism in Western society. I wonder if that exists anywhere actually.
>>62864761The Dominicans will keep them off the non shit side of the island and the nigs can't float so no 'I am the captain now' water world shit outside of maybe some retarded missionary getting boatjacked
Why the hell is the DR an actual country and not a failed hellscape like Haiti, they’re on the same damn island and…>picrel…oh.
>>62864783They do it all the time you fucking retard. The Caribbean is not a dangerous sea. There's also smugglers who will do it for them.>uuhhh bootjackRefugees don't fucking boatjack passing ships to get to countries, tard. At worst they float over to them in rafts and then try to get them to take them somewhere else. Usually they just go rafts most of the way until they get picked up or reach their destination.
>>62864806barbados,cayman and bermuda or any of the france overseas is better than the D.R it's a fucking shithole it only looks good casue it's beside a super shithole
>>62859536This. I don't understand why we ever even had planes going to and from there in the first place. Probably just dropping off gibs. Even liberals aren't dumb enough to try to take a backpacking trip there the way they do in the rest of the shitholes.
>>62860281Here's something I looked up in 5 seconds. I wouldn't go so far as to call it 'not a big deal,' but I can't think of an incident where a plane/helicopter has been shot down by someone taking potshots with a rifle. News helicopters flying over gang territory also get shot athttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/air-force-helicopter-shot-over-virginia-injuring-crew-member-n1236522
>>62859639Damn, libtards are not taking their electoral drubbing so well!
>>62864489>>62860040dirty, aggressive, primitive mud-eater spotted
Impressive
>>62864427The problem there is you need FUCKLOADS of police/troops and the very instant you begin call them home and leave it to the locals the local police forces will undoubtedly collapse faster than the ANA. They will largely fall right back to savagery as new warlords fill the void and we're right back to square one. Your forces have to be on basically every street corner and stay there for decades at minimum. Even with that and the best nation building money could buy I sincerely doubt anything we do to stabilize it will last past any attempts to withdraw. It'd be a massive very long term commitment to seriously try and fix that place without resorting to genocide.>>62864489If anything the French are probably breathing a huge sigh of relief that it's officially not their problem. I wouldn't want to be stuck managing that shithole either unless I was given free reign to completely exterminate the current residents, flatten their shanties, and rebuild it to my standards with no consequences. Even then it'd REALLY fucking suck. It'd take Elon tier fabulous wealth and owned assets to even begin to fix that place even after wiping out the subhumans that "live" there.If you sit down and think about how much stuff you'd need to restore the place, even without the Haitians being there anymore to waste it, even without the labor to actually put it to use, that price tag is insane. Haiti is probably one of the least desirable patches of land on the planet simply due to Haitians existing on it and absolutely raping the land for generations.>>62864769>That sounds like an excuseYou're very clearly talking to an American leftist. Everything bad is all MAGA's fault no matter what and how dare you even begin to merely think of claiming otherwise.
>>62860193>Unleash the Dominicans.This.Put a Media Blackout on the Dominican cleansing operation.Call it a humanitarian intervention on CNN.?????Profit!
>>62859616I do respect that they're actually keeping what they can hold stable but Holy shit is it bad. They're better off evacuating and watching from international waters if they need the experience so badly
>>62865923>t. Rafael Trujillo
Having read the thread 'til now, all the elaborate hate and extravagant ill-wishes would be covered with a simple, good ol' cholera outbreak. The infrastructure is so devastated at his point it should take out about 50% of the population. Or more.
>>62866072anon, don't be plotting bioweapon terrorism in the board
>>62866501You call it bio-terrorism, I call it sharting in a well after eating Indian food.
>>62867968A hearty MacSharty
>>62859492There are MANY tactics, but no will.
>>62866072The problem is, Nepalese peacekeepers with the UN already caused a massive cholera outbreak in Haiti snd they've mostly adapted to it being endemic
>>62866072>a simple, good ol' cholera outbreakthat already happened after that big earthquake 14 years ago>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_Haiti_cholera_outbreak
>>62865519>air force helicoptervs>civilian airlinerSo yeah, a blatant lie
>>62860592Haitians are quite literally retarded monkeys. I work with a bunch of them at a factory and many had 6 fingers. Had because they cant understand machinery and get fucked up every other week
>>62859639>(thank MAGAts in Congress)How about those niggers solve their own fucking problems. They kicked their white masters out, so they should be able to right?Same with yidsrael and ukraine too. Fuck off
>>62859945>a heinously unstable shithole near the USYou mean like Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Nicaragua, Guatamala, and fucking MEXICO?Yeah nah we're fucked, not like we've been holding back the tide of unwashed shitskins since the fucking late 1800's or anything.Moron. Post guns
>>62859492genocide, the locals cannot shoot if there are no locals
>>62859618Eh thermite is great for destroying equipment but it's very sub optimal for incendiaries of scale.
>>62860035This is why the Manta Ray was developed. We need an autonomous underwater nigger destroyer.>Buck Status - Sunk
>>62859492Step one is to tactically acquire a bunch of recoilless rifles, rocket launchers, or aircraft rocket pods.
>>62859492Corpo reprisal death squads. If you fuck with the airline, you will be extracted, tortured, and dumped as an example. Take hands, break families, ride around with FALs in armored cars hopefully. Paying some dudes to play cowboy and financing all the bribes it will take to get people to give up enough gunmen to make a difference will be retardedly expensive, but this might be one of the few industries where it can work out since the alternative is eventually replacing an airliner and a lot of paperwork, insurance, and court cases.
>>62875358I wonder how effective this actually was. My guess is "not at all" but it's still pretty bad ass
>>62875411Hard to tell. Herman Göring's Swedish nephew Carl Gustaf von Rosen put together a bunch of similar planes and outfitted them with rocket pods for the Biafrans during the Nigerian civil war. They flew multiple raids against Nigerian air bases with these things and successfully destroyed a bunch of grounded Nigerian fighter jets and bombers.But firing frag rockets at airplanes and firing HEAT rockets at tanks are two very different tasks.The latter requires significantly higher accuracy to be effective.
>>62875533>But firing frag rocketsvon Rosen and his merry men only used AT-rockets. Though this admittedly probably doesn't change your point all too much.
>>62859639>>62860040Post gun with timestamp.>>62864029There is no one to hold America accountable for anything, America is the organ by which the global order holds things accountable.>>62860035If the nation began killing illegals en masse most of them would simply flee the country. They can only survive here because of government benefits anyway.
>>62875411iirc it was effective at first, no one was expecting a lesion aircraft to attack.but them word got around and such aircraft became a shoot on sight target.
flights into haiti should just be people going game hunting for uppity darks
>>62864806Most of the population is mixed with big chunk being whites.There is no more telling example of demographics being very fucking important than those two countries on a single island.But to be fair, DC got a big gold mine.
>>62859473If an aircraft gets penetrated like a bullet like this >>62859477 then does it lose the ability to pressurize? Did these niggas have to fly back to miami at 10,000 feet after taking fire?
>>62876349>hatians are able to miraculously terraform their jungle island into a desert>this is somehow viewed as a sign of inferior intelligence and organizationthis is your brain on /pol/
>>62876509probably just the pumps having to work a bit harder.
>>62859473So are those planes are being shoot during landing/starting or small guns do actually have such impressive range?
>>62871695you forgot California and Canada
>>62876673Not adding Texas to that list?
>>62876724https://apnews.com/article/dallas-texas-bullet-hits-airplane-southwest-airlines-19feb604518202ef544ce0102e3ea2c3
>>62876520Post gun with timestamp
>>62865892You'd practically have reconstruct the ecosystem of that half of the island from nothing. That alone would take decades.
>>62879166Even if you just imported stuff from the DR the costs could be staggering, especially without proper planning. At least there wouldn't be any more Haitians ruining it. Cooperation from the Dominicans would be extremely likely.My game plan would be to dump fucktons of seeds from the DR out of aircraft all coated in some sort of environmentally friendly fertilizer that won't kill birds and won't come off as it falls. Do it shortly before the rainy season hits. Launch a few hundred seed bombings in specifically chosen areas creating large strips of growth that will eventually spread now that there's not mutant chimps running slash and burn on every inch of it just because they can. Once the plants come back the insects, birds, and animals will too. It's a miracle the people of the Dominican Republic aren't also backwards savages or that island's life would be almost entirely gone forever. Growing it to the ecological quality of the DR would take a lot of time, but getting it started can be done.The bigger pain in the ass is rebuilding the portions people are suppose to live. I can't imagine how bad a state most of the buildings, roads, power lines, pipes, and other infrastructure there must be in.
>>62879220>The bigger pain in the ass is rebuilding the portions people are suppose to live.Bulldoze it into big piles, cover it with soil, plant over it. Then just build new developments where you need them.
>>62879229It's more complicated than that though. In the US or most of Europe you could do exactly that, but it's entirely possible you need glow worms to come in and clear sites just because of how filthy the former locals were. I'd treat each and every "house" the way you treat a house that had meth cooked in it. Extensive soil testing would be needed anywhere with more than a few people pre-unburdening. Between pollutants and sewage full of parasites and other potentially dangerous microorganisms I wouldn't dare just go the simple route.
>>62859473>fly over city overrun with gang war>get shot>it happens 3 more times>nobody could've known! it was pure random whim of fates!
>>62859904>should use cluster munitions on these people as wellYeah but they're the government of a nuclear superpower, so it might be tricky.
>>62876349How did they manage to fuck up the land this badly?
>>62879220>build roads>leave>UNGA BUNGA>no more roads>Build roads>stay for 100 years carefully building the world's best infrastructure and educating millions and dressing them in your clothing and teaching them your language at the cost of incalculable money for zero benefit>leave>UNGA BUNGA!!!!!>no more roads.You cannot free a fish from water.
>>62880104You can however kill the fish.
>>62879427Savages use wood and charcoal for heating and cooking because they lack better power sources.
>>62859473Nothingburger. In ww2 .50BMG was considered peashooter tier against aircraft. A few lucky hits with presumably mid powered rifle rounds are unlikely to do any serious damage.
>>62876520Man I thought leftists were supposed to be smart, holy fucking shit
>>62859601Agreed. It's a country and society not worth saving. Order some B52's and put down some round-the-clock carpet bombing for 30 days. Then take all the haitian immigrants out of north america and send them back to rebuild. Win-win.
