The future of warfare.
We're witnessing technological genius never seen before.
>>62871020>Motor suddenly seizes for whatever reasonI wouldn't want to be anywhere near that, conservation of angular momentum is a bitch
We'll be using these on Mars.
And in space!
I hate this. This is stupid and needless.
>>62871020
I love this. This is smart and necessary.
I am impartial to this. It is a thing and exists.
I am ambivalent to this. I don't know what it is or know of it exists.
I am this. I'm unnecessary and spin.
>>62871020>Space inefficient>Heavy system needing an extraordinarily strong arm and counterweight as well as an airtight spinner assembly.>Will likely seize up due to lubricant drying up in vacuum>Spinning may cause projectile to deform.>Needs to pump out the air in the spiner after every shot. >Using projectiles with different weights will cause spinner to vibrate>Spin causes gyrostopic forces while moving, potentially causing the spinner to rub against the container. >Slingle puncture to the spinner chamber makes maintaining vacuum impossible.>Off axis gun causes entire turret to twist when firing, causing inaccuracy>Overcharging may cause release mechanism to deform, causing the round to slam into the chamber walls rather than slip smoothly into the barrel.Did I miss anything?
I spin. I am.
I. I.
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>>62871020>a careful concoction of bullshiteat shit and die, retard
>>62871020Centrifugal guns are pretty old hat, and even they are more practical than this shit.
>>62871144The fact that "opening" the barrel so that the bullet might actually pass through it breaks the vacuum, causing a sudden influx of air in the opposite direction of the bullet, fucking with the ballistics and shit.
>>62871023>Spinners have several advantages>They (. . .) generate significantly less recoil>Spinchambers ('. . .) generate substantial torquelollmao, even
>>62871020It took me a while to understand what the fuck is the deal with that harddrive
>>62871173>very obviously a thread laughing at it>R-RET *SNIFF* TARD!If you killed yourself, right now, my world would be better off.
Napkin math says 40 million RPM on a 3 metre moment arm for Mach 10 shells.
Imagine something like this but as a satellite weapon. Just flinging tungsten rods at ungodly speeds to split a carrier in half.
>>62871020Lol, whats the start up? Whats the power needed?
>>62871239Wouldn't really be necessary to fling them, the rods would reach terminal velocity by just being released, they can only go so fast. Too expensive anyways, it'd be more cost efficient to just drop them from a super high altitude, not space.
>>62871020How do you elevate/depress the gun?
>>62871253oscillating turret
>>62871020I'd fund it if they go for a russian shell storage system. The turret tosses would be glorious with the inbuilt gyro stabilizing it whilst in air.
>>62871248The "rods of God" concept is extremely flawed. You can't simply just drop them, they have to be guided in some way. And just limiting yourself to terminal velocity isn't thinking big enough.Winding up your throwing arm to get it to even crazier speeds that you can aim at half the planet (if you are in geosync orbit) would be a pretty crazy weapon. You have no friction at all to deal with in the vacuum of space and the only limit is how strong the material is you built the thing out of that it doesn't tear itself apart while it spins.
"Rods of God" concept is extremely retarded, if you calculate how large of a rod you would have to get up there, to at least achieve a nuclear missile - sized effect, and then compare it with costs of getting such cargo to the orbit.
>>62871267It still has to re-enter the atmosphere at extremely high velocity, which would require exorbitantly expensive material and coating on the projectile. I do like the concept though, extremely menacing to know something that powerful looms overhead.
>>62871020>Billions of dollars and God knows how many manhours to hook a fucking battery up to a mechanical sling that still has throat jump to the barrel, instead of just using chemical propellants or batteries along the already present barrel.
>>62871274>and then compare it with costs of getting such cargo to the orbit.There is this South African autist I need to tell you about.
>>62871289
>>62871274It should never have been about a dedicated weapons platform. It might work for domestic terror when a bunch of tungsten beams are already up in orbit for construction and you drop a big one on London or wherever because durka durka space jihad.
>>62871020A hard drive?
>>62871020if the rate of fire is less than the average of a standard tank then these are doait doesnt matter if you can fire rounds at 12000kmh if i can shoot 30 rounds for every 1 of yours.
>>62871020Hard Drives are obsolete.
>>62871441nuh uh
>>62871020SPEEEEEEEN!
For me, it's the McChiken. The best fast food sandwich.
>>62871441>obsoleteThey're still cheaper per TB than SSDs, making them suitable for data centers. SSDs still burn out.>t. former data center engineer
>>62871474^this. My boot drive is ssd. Everything installed or important stays on spinny platters.
>>62871474>>62871506I'm on a 15 year old 7200rpm HDD. It's so fucking slow. Been purposefully saving to buy a giga PC but Intel KEEP shitting the bed and AMD are finally getting up there in non-gaming performance. So hopefully if the 5090 is out in Feb like they claim, I'll try then. But my point is, HDD are slow as fuck and I cannot wait until I get a NVMe >b-b-butI don't care any more. I don't keep anything super important on my desktop storage anyway.
>>62871184>The fact that "opening" the barrel so that the bullet might actually pass through it breaks the vacuum, causing a sudden influx of airBut I di->a sudden influx of air in the opposite direction of the bullet, fucking with the ballistics and shit.Oh right. I thought about it but it didn't seem more significant than a bullet leaving the barrel. I'd be more worried about the bulllet hitting the hatch on the way out. Maybe you know something I don't.
>>62871474Until you realize that data bloat is a thing and some jackass dumps 3 terabytes of test photos on it at once.
>>62871598>Maybe you know something I don't.Probably not, but from the rest of that image I sincerely doubt it's something they took into consideration when designing this thing.
>>62871605They definitely didn't. For one, there's no actual need for a long barrel. All it does is add friction to the shot on the way out.
>>62871020What in the dihaar insaat is this shit
>>62871506>>62871581I dunno bros, I just had a HDD die on me.I'm thinking about cloning the two HDD's I still use over to SSD's.
>>62871274>Nuclear weapon impact I thought the entire point was that they're basically non-explosive bunker busters, not city-destroyers.As in,>Glowies detect nuclear silo activating it's launch procedures>Call up the Godrod™ satellite that's in geosynchronous orbit over said silo for this exact scenario>Drops, or launches for even more speed, tungsten rod with guidance kit at silo, rod just rips right through silo lid and makes missile unable to launch, hopefully completely destroying it too>Because the rod is both absurdly fast and also already directly over the silo, has a fast enough launch to impact time to disable the enemy missile launch before it's ready to fire>Even if the rod doesn't completely destroy the missile base, it at least will disable the launch for long enough that more conventional weapons or nukes of your own can reach the base and take it out for goodBasically missile interceptors that aim to intercept before it even launches.
>>62871144>Spinchambers require time to spin up before they can fire, so any tanks have the option of either having a round constantly spinning wearing out parts and sucking up energy or having to deal with a delay before they can fire, as opposed to a conventional cannon that can be easily kept in a ready to fire state >Spinchambers require incredibly precise timing done with the help of sensors and electronics, if the projectile and barrel aren't perfectly aligned when released then you'll be ripping a new hole in the turret and rendering the tank out of action, as opposed to a conventional cannon that requires no sensors, no electronics, and for the ammunition to not be stupidly overcharged to prevent an accidental kaboom when firing
>>62871441What the fuck are you using then, only Floppy Dicks?
>>62872640>Floppy DicksFloppy Discs
>>62871020I know this is just a neat, fun Sci-Fi idea but right now the M829 has a velocity of 1.67km/s, while SpinLaunch (a much larger centrifuge than the one here) hurls shit at 2.1km/s. It's a fun idea, but retarded if you are going for hard sci-fi.
>>62871248>based retard doesn't realize you need to slow down to de orbit
>>62871253>elevate/depress the gunHeadpats/verbal abuse
>>62871827look up "spinlaunch"
>>62871927geo takes multiple hours to fall to earth, you'd need a constellation of them in a wide variety of elliptic orbits
>>62871289The "tungsten telephone pole" concept is roughly equivalent to the energy of a MOAB, and it can't do an airburst since it's purely kinetic energy.It's nowhere near the power of a thermonuclear warhead, and the only thing it's really good at is hitting stationary underground targets.
>>62871241Gerbils
>scam money for space launch dries up>suddenly a NEW APPLICATION emerges now that defence budgets are rising>>62871144https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
>>62872580Constantly spinning isn't that much west actually, but it is a stupid design anyway, the barrel can't get elevation, thus it's useless as a frontline vehicle.The technology might potentially exist got artillery, but I doubt it
>>62873604>westwear>GotForEither way, it's a lot of moving parts for basic propellant could do cheaper.
Why do you need to make it spin? A big counterweight is cheaper, mechanically simpler, and retains the same compatibility with nonsensitive ammunition.
>>62871020I actually tried to work out something like this once and came to the conclusion that it was a completely moronic idea and felt bad that I ever thought it was a good idea.
>>62871020What happens when the projectile gets released and your system suddenly becomes horribly unbalanced?
>>62873807The only idea I have is that the counterweight gets jettisoned at the same time and the empty arms are allowed to spin down.
>>62873807Nothing. The bearings manage with the ome sided load.
>>62871474>>62871506>>62871581>>62871604>>62871863>Not weaving your data into core rope memory.ishygddt
>>62871863I use both.I use two cloned HDDs for storage, movies, photo's, etc.I run the OS and games off of a decent 500gb NVMe.
>>62871047>SpinLaunch (wannabe?)this shit is deader than dead.. they took the money and ran
>>62871020Bros, we were always the best.
The Spin Launch thing failed to scam investment, so maybe they can hook in some defense investment. With the big spending increases around the world it’s not crazy at all to try and grab something. I unironically wish these tech bros well because they’re not stealing from the public so who cares if they can land Saudi oil money or some VC throwing the dice. When I was younger I hated the investment scammers but when you get older and wiser you can empathize better.
>>62871020>5000 years after the fact Black Horizon declares that they have invented the slinggenius.
>>62871020Centrifugal guns are nothing new. At least whoever made this model knew to put the barrel tangent to the spin path instead of making the barrel axis coincident with the center (a common misconception).
>>62871030>We'll be using these on Mars.nigga we'll be using M2's on Mars
interesting idea. I wonder how far you could miniaturize it?
>>62871023
>>62871020Can we stop basing military development on vinesauce memes?
>>62871020>>62871023>>62871030>>62871035>>62871047The inane shit people come up with to avoid making missiles, holy shit. It's like trying to re-invent the wheel.
>>62871020What even is the advamtage compared to normal munitions?
the bigger question here is what's the advantage compared to railguns?if you simply target similar muzzle velocity to modern tank guns (1.2 km/s) you can avoid a lot of the excessive bore erosion problems facing the Navy's railgunsyou'd also need to swap to an electric transmission aka diesel electric drive to recharge your capacitors, I've run the numbers and the energy requirements are not out of line
>>62871020Sounds like it'll take the world by storm. By which I mean it'll go the way of Metal Storm.>>62874445But if you make missiles then you're competing with all the other people making missiles, and some of those actually know what you're doing. It's much easier to sc... get funding from investors if you have something unique.
>>62875224>if you simply target similar muzzle velocity to modern tank guns (1.2 km/s) you can avoid a lot of the excessive bore erosion problems facing the Navy's railgunsWell I think half the point is the greater muzzle velocities...Still, I wonder if sticking graphite wedges into the armature/projectile to "lube" it would help.
>>62875275I think the problem is actually arc erosion and friction effects don't really matter
>>62875279Well that's the beauty of using graphite; It will leave a surface of graphene that would hopefully act as your rails conductor.
>>62871024Why would it suddenly seize?
>>62871274No need to bring it from Earth. Just make them in Moon (as there is a lot of iron there) and coat them in ceramic tiles for re-entry. They are not nukes, but every gas rig, power station, bunker, dam, bridge, fuel depot and radar station would get smoked. Also ships, if they stop zig-zagging.
>>62871035How the fuck would that work in space when there is no gravity that provides resistance to generate force.
>>62875455what?
>>62875460Spinning things in zero g doesnt create centrifugal force the same way it does on earth.
>>62875487lol, false
>>62875487centrifugal "force" is just rotating reference frame
>>62875492There's enough mass there to create gravity. Unless you are planning to use shells the size of skyscrappers, those turrets wouldnt work.
>>62875487you're right, it's way faster, way quieter and way more powerful. idioten.
>>62873930>>62873876Yeaaaah.....press F to doubt this shill will ever work as intended.
>>62875498idiot lol
>>62871581>AMD are finally getting up there in non-gaming performanceThey've already been the leaders since Threadripper released 7 years ago if you were actually paying attention to workstation performance. As for gaming, they've been the leader since the 5800x3d, 7800x3d, and now 9800x3d were released. If your only source of cpu news is userbenchmark then I can see how you think AMD wasn't already the leader for everything cpu for years already.
>>62875514s-sexo....
nigguh das a hard drive
>>62875528I think he meant workstation AND gaming, in one CPU, rather than X or Y. Intel, in the mid-late 2000's was able to do both. AMD took charge as Intel rested on its laurels (and fucked up, again, with Arrow Lake).
why is this better than just using a coil gun? to spin this glorified flywheel you'd have to use a ton of energy, just like a coil or rail gun system.
>>62875660trading capacitor mass for gun mass I guess
>>62875601There hasn't been a clear leader in both on 1 CPU in at least a decade. There's always been a trade off for recent shit so if a decade is how long it's been since he bought anything for his PC then just about everything either company is selling now would be an upgrade.
>>62875673Yeah that's why I said since the mid-late 2000's. He said he has a 7200RPM HDD, that's slow slow slow SLOW.
>>62873988It's quite interesting how deadly that thing can be.
>>62871020>fire the round >arm is now out of balance due to the counter weightUhhhhhhh
>>62871604>itRAID, no data center would uses JBOD unless they're on crack.
>>62876623What? What counter weight? The arm rotates around a spot.
>>62875415lack of maintenance, battle damage, manufacturing defects, etc.
>>62871020No fucking way. I came up with this years ago, but I assumed it had been tried and deemed a failure, given what an obvious concept it is.
>>62876636this one right here
>>62871449>6600 and a 1060 6gigIdentical to my last pc. nice. >>62871020So, answer me as if I were a complete fucking idiot (I am). >vacuum chamber sealed by turret>launches projectiles out of a barrelSo...does the barrel have plug in it or some shit? How would they maintain the vacuum?
>>62876623shut the fuck up dogfucker>>62876737opening and closing a door rapidly, yeahhttps://youtu.be/DCo2PgWSB_Uit's not too hard if these scam artists can do it, and it's easier on a smaller scale
>>62875455>>62875487>>62875498
>>62876752OOOoohhhh, gotcha. I remember that, didn't realize it was the same concept (again, moron.)
>>62871184>>62871598>>62871605Spinlaunch uses a seal that gets broken, this artist didn't include that in his concept because he's clearly a massive retard who doesn't understand a single aspect of this design, but that's pretty par for the course.
>>62871035How do you stop the spinning arm to load another round without generating a shit load of heat?
>>62876764Hey now, it's a valid question. Don't be so down on yourself.
>>62876891Who said anything about stopping? Just load the next round the instant after releasing the ready round.
>>62877196lollmao
>>62871474>Engineer cannot even into greentextpottery
>>62874405And Gavins and 1911s
>>62871178Didn't the Russians try this for a vmcrew served grenade launcher.
>>62878164MG-44.
>>62871173>HURF DURF NO FUN ALLOWED>ONLY BASIC BITCH GAR-AR AND GLAWK TAWK>ALSO BASED RUSSIA TRUMP WON AM I FITTING IN NOW GUISE?kys
>>62871030>oscillating turrets are back1950s France won
>>62871020My Unironic Reactionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-teEbB9vlEU
>>62879412t mentally derangedTake your meds schizo
>>62876881>Spinlaunch uses a seal that gets brokenWouldn't that mean you could only use it for a single shot at a time?You'd have to replace the seal after every shot, which sounds like a bitch to do automatically, and you'd get a way bigger logistical footprint compared to conventional propellants (even more so than it already is.
>>62871020Hitachi? Or Seagate?
>>62879719You thought it could volley fire without that? Even if it didn't destroy its seal, it still has the mess of readying a new round after every shot.
>>62879762Fuck no, but replacing a seal has to be done even before starting to make a new vacuum, meaning you're only adding to the (already egregious) reload time
Fuck science. I'm tired of this Looney Tunes bullshit.
>>62879848all weapons are looney tunes bullshit>hey what we took chunks of this rock, melted them down, and sharped it into a bladed tip>What if we could shoot that tip using a string and some bendy shit>what if we take this powder that heats up and put it in a barrel with shit in front of it>what if we make made that explosion push a spring so we don't have to manually put in another chunk of metalit's absolute schizophrenia from an outsiders perspective
>>62871020So it's NOT a spaceship.. Ha!
>>62879719the big Spinlaunch space launch scam uses two sets of doors, one of which is open and one is closedthe outer one opens and the inner one closes when it launches
>>62871020>The future of warfare.The future? You mean the past? https://armourersbench.com/2019/12/08/centrifugal-machine-guns/
>>62879719As I said, the artist behind this concept is clearly a massive retard who doesn't know fuck about shit.
>>62879922Maybe in their concepts, but as far as I know the scale test model used a frangible seal.Doors would have to open and close with millisecond timing, just doesn't seem feasible when your other option is to stick a sheet of vinyl over the opening.
>>62879848
>>62880534uh this doesn't look like CGI: >>62876752
What a coincidence, I was just looking up spinlaunch the other day to see if they went bankrupt yet. Seems like they're just silent right now
>>62880568The one with the projectile is a CG render.The one they show in real time is a mockup/test version of an airlock door that isn't attached to anything and actually isn't fast enough.As I said, the actual sub-scale test launch they did showed the projectile breaking throw a thin seal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6esOcWrrEE
>>62880601yeah that's true
>>62875514Cute pic, but the window is a bad idea when you would need to be spinning like 40 rpm to induce 1g on a room that size. Everybody's getting motion sickness when they can see Earth rotating like it's in a washing machine.
>>62880616the torus is bigger than it looks
>>62880637Looks more like a 10m radius at the most, but I'll take your word for it since you pulled out the fancy calculator.
>>62880644I literally pulled those numbers out of my butt, but radius is very deceivingI really hope somebody builds one soonhas anybody put together a VR thing to let you walk through one?
>>62875487Most retarded post of the day award
>>62875487Centrifugal force is just inertia wanting an object to keep going straight when the object is being forced into a curve.
>>62871020>>62871020Would be cool as shit, but I don't want to drive around a giant anti-tank centrifuge spinning a 4lb APHE shell.
>>62880637Something that small is going to give you motion sickness no matter what. The difference between your feet and your head would be killer. Even the ship in The Martian is larger than that and von braun's space station was pretty fucking huge to counter this as well.
>>62876625One of these days I'm gonna make a RAID 5 array just for the hell of it.
>>62879719Yep. It's a pain in the ass that the designer waives off as "Single shot weapon doesn't need a high rate of fire."
>a system that is operating at the edge of physics and is highly sensitive to external input>in a mobile military applicationIt's cool for an alternate reality meme science fiction world, I guess.
>>62871024>Here's your new spinchamber-15, anon>Oh, what do you do if this thing starts going automatic automatically?>Just keep it pointed at the ground for a few seconds>You DO practice the most important rule of firearm safety, don't you anon?>NEVER point your gun at something you don't intend to shoot>NEVER
>>62884965hmmmmm falsealso that's why you spend the entire time floating horizontally in the water
>>62875415>starts spinning>a cheeky 50 cal lodges itself into the main bearing>????>deficit
>>62871020has thunderf00t deb00nked this already?
>>62886046>Not tracking your neighbors walking by outside with a loaded rifle and a buzz off cheap whiskey from the comfort of your La-z-BoyWhat are you, a communist?Next you’ll say you don’t enjoy a good road juice and a bump of yay before you drive.
>>62875492I still don't get how you are supposed to create an air tight seal on a rotating structure attached to a non-rotating structure
>>62871020ok. who's got the webm of that fuckin dahir insaat drone tank that wipes out all of nato by just holding tank shells in a little arm and firing them like rockets
>>62886800Rotate the arm with magnets.
>>62886984So it's two very large structures with an asymmetric dependency?
>>62874011how do you expect this to work
>>62886800You don't. You put the motor on the inside of the vacuum seal. Yes, this causes all sorts of problems from lubrication to cooling. It's why most of /k/ seems to think it's a terrible idea.And guess what?It IS a Terrible Idea.
>>62874011>scammers are based because rich people badyou know you have to go back, right?
>>62890402Go back where?
>>62875246>By which I mean it'll go the way of Metal Storm.Metal Storm deserved much better than this weaponized fidget spinner.
>>62876623>dogfucker's back>>>/an/
>>62890223I bet by the time we're actually capable of building something like this we'll have a good solution, plasma windows seems promising.
>>62890497We are capable of building this anon, the only reason we don't, it's because it's a bad idea. Firing a ball through coils is more reliable than spinning it to hell.
>>62871020And we were all mocking the russians for looting washing machines...my God, all this time they were just preparing!
>>62891106Kek
>>62890497You could also use that same technology make railgun rails out of plasma and never need bother with a spin-arm.
>>62890864>>62891154I'm an idiot, I thought he was talking about the O'Neill Cylinder, the spin launcher seems good enough for a mass driver in low gravity but not so good as a offensive/ defensive weapon
>>62871030>literally zero degrees of gun depression>have to invent about half a dozen workarounds to solve the new problems innate to the retarded design you've contrivedGet the Pentagon on the horn, they'll be all over this shit.
>>62871020How is it more compact? The support equipments to make it work are going to be extremely bulky, power hungry, slow and fragile.
>>62891729Don't forget that you can't move the gun to either side, since you have to move everything but the hull. In order to turn it you have manoeuvre the tank like a ww2 tank destroyer.
>>62874445Remember when tanks could fire missiles out of their barrels; those were the days.
>>62892463They still can do that. Merkavas fires LAHAT, which is compatible with all 120/105mm NATO too. Most Russian tanks can fire missiles, if they have any.
>>62871242Fucking Christ that's an oldie, you're alright for a tripfag
>>62892463They're still around, the Israeli LAHAT, the Russian Kobra and Bastion, some Chinese knockoff of said missiles, etc. The US basically doesn't deal with them because the Shillelagh left a bad impression. It had a Minimum range of 800 yards and firing normal HEAT rounds tended to fuck up the control circuits for the missile.
>>62871023>never seen before.>1860's
>>62875487this post is 3 days old and it's still the most retarded shit on the board anon. You are competing for the weekly award now
>>62875455uhhhhhhhhhhh anon?
