We have to admit, the chinks built a really sexy plane. Just look at her back...
>>62872502Alright but how do we know if it's actually stealth
>>62872525Impossible, the Chinese built it.
>>62872502it looks like a air salon mockup
>>62872650Maybe they should call it the J-35A Air Salon Mockup, then
Implessive
>>62872502SoullessAircraft design peaked with the MiG-29
>>62872754This, but the Hawker Fury instead.
>>62872502I mean I'd fuck it but honesty 5th gen has been a massive let down for especially fuckable planes
we are vastly overestimating our superiorityits not that hard to make a planethe chinese are good at this shit and they received the technology from israelwe have them beat on pilot experience and training, not on the aircraftit is vital for freedom's sake that we keep learning from our rivals and to not underestimate them
>>62872856What is there to learn from 30 year old shit they stole from us?
>>62872856Stop pretending to be American until you learn how to fucking type properly.
>>62872865What exactly they stole so we know how best to deal with it. I'm a layman about this but do we have any kind of air defense system that can target and intercept any stealth aircraft or have we ignored making such a thing, assuming we'll never have to worry about our enemies making a stealth plane?
>>62872502>chinks built a really sexy planeit's a 1 for 1 copy...
>>62872865we lost in koreawe lost in vietnamwe lost in afghanistanwe lost in syriawe lost in cubaour arrogance has killed millions of ours
>>62873047>we we we weYou aren't "we", chinksect. And we won in Korea while killing almost a million of you.
>>62872525It might have radar absorbing materials but it still looks like a VW beetle on radar.
>>62873047>we>ours>millionsthe funniest way to tell on yourself for being chinese is by automatically assuming a country at war loses millions of livesMore Chinese civilians were killed during the Tienanmen Square massacre than Americans during Desert Storm
flying coffin.
>>62872502ugly when compared to the F35
>>62873047millions huh
>>62872502The chinaman is not the issue here
>>62872502I prefer the Super Viper Valkyriehaha
>>62873047>millions
>>62873047>we lost in koreaWrong. The stretch goal wasn't achieved, but the initial war aim was, and only after beating the Chinks so badly they finally came to the table in good faith after yanking us around for two years.>we lost in vietnamFair. Copium huffers about South Vietnam's fall being its own fault need not apply.>we lost in afghanistanAlso fair. Addicts of the same copium supply, just a fresher vintage, need not apply.>we lost in syriaDubious. I might be willing to concede this, but this is really opening things up to "every geopolitical failure" and it seems like this argument was about military losses. Syria is a State Department failure, but not a lost war. Your argument would have been stronger if you chose Libya, seeing as we did commit some serious assets to that one.>we lost in cubaYou've misplaced this, it goes between Korea and Vietnam. This is the borderline for inclusion. More military involvement than Syria but less than Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan.Overall grade B-, needed more study time before you posted this.
>>62872525if it looks right, it probably is right; which sounds really stupid but1. works for aerodynamics2. there's a reason people complain all stealth fighters look the same, basic radar reduction features like a pronounced chine and canted tailfins are visually distinctive and make arr rook sameIf it looks like an F-35 and has even a halfway decent RAM coating it's probably smaller on radar than if it looked like a Flanker with a body kit (cough, cough)
>>62872856Whats all this 'we' shit?
>>62872856>From IsraelNo they just stole the blueprints straight up from the west. Pretty much the entire western MIC has been compromised by Chinese rootkits within the last 10 years.
>>62872915>it's a 1 for 1 copy...
>>62873220>ugly when compared to the F35
>>62873076desert storm was maybe what, ten school shootings? we chew that in a news cycle.
>>62874045>the leading edge anglesoh so that's why we haven't seen this thing from above yet. it's not stealth at all.
>>62874051>Americans are fat
>>62874051thank you for helping prove my point, I didn't have a comparison image to post
>>62873047>our arrogance has killed millions of oursMy very Chinese friend, the death toll from every foreign war the United States has fought over the last 250 years combined is well under a million.
>>62873259Zoom zoom
>>62872856Looking forward to America making missiles that can fly up a chinks ass, launched from a robotic submarine.
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>>62874169USNavy is pretty good
Its so flat and boring compared to the F-35.
>>62872502You can make a bodykit to look like anything. E.g. make a Corvette look like a Ferrari. The Chinks put a bodykit on a Flanker. They stole the Flanker airframe from the Russians, the (outdated) stealth material from the downed F-117 and the bodykit was drawn up by copying photos of the F-35 on the internet.
I still prefer the J-20 desu, but the J-35 is a beauty too.
>>62872502She's pretty
>>62872525They can help us out again by flying it past Taiwanese radars for showmanship purposes. My money's that it's even more embarrassing than this.
>>62875313I guess the spirit of the MiG 1.44 lives on in the J-20. Though I still would've rather seen the MiG be built.
>>62875313This
>>62872754>MiG-29based mig29 enjoyer
>>62873559This, its obvious. Their stealth aircraft are almost carbon copies of ours (the J-20 not as much). Its actually pretty clever. Let the US MIC companies spend a fortune on R&D and then just knick the designs thru espionage.
>>62875479Its more like the cancelled J-9V than MiG desu
>>62874045>can't hover>still chooses circular nozzles over F-22 nozzles anywayI prefer the look of the circular nozzles but why not? I thought stealth was important
>>62874051It's sort of the visual difference between a rabbit and a hare, with the chinks being the hares
>>62875313J20 is neat because it's such a uniquely Chinese plane meant for Chinese problems. Unlike the J35 which feels like a cheap imitation, the J20 is designed around land-based naval interception which is a mission type only China has to specifically develop aircraft for. Much like their almost retarded devotion to the type 56 SKS over the AK, it's a great example of China realizing what it needs and what it can do rather than just wholesale copying what someone else is doing while ignoring what their military is geared for
the f22 will never be surpassed in sexiness
>>62876794>the f22 will never be surpassed in sexiness
>>62876825Unironcally I like the shape of the J20. It has that peak shadow/mirror villain look like shadow link
>>62873075isn't that a good thing? why would AA fire upon a vw beetle?
>>62876286Isn't the whole purpose of the J-20 just to fly really high and shoot down AWACS?Kinda like how MiG-31 operating right now, except there's no AWACS there that they can shoot down.
>>62875385There is no way a twin engine fighter with that slim of a profile has any significant internal space for weapons right?
>>62877230F-35 is fat because of the "B" variant desu, if it wasn't by that it would've been just as slim.
>>62872502>We have to admit, the chinks built a really sexy plane. Just look at her back...
>>62877173>why would AA fire upon a vw beetle?its moving at 800mph surrounded by a swarm of other beetles (or whatever) going 600mph
>>62874177>>62874215mogs you
>>62874045showing an image of it being a .9 to .9 copy isnt really helping your argument
>>62875313why does it look so absurdly big in this picture?
>>62878543>So we also got some images of the chinese J-35 which is not supposed to be an F-35 allegedly. But as you can see it's twin engine they've got the naval variant and the air force variant looks a lot like an F-35. But honestly it looks better and you know why it looks better? Because it's not obese it did not create "fat amy" in their version. Because it did not require a lifting fan so it doesn't need the big hump. It didn't need to stay modular this is what the F-35 should have been. The "B" model is the problem, that's why it's "fat amy". Because it's an ugly airplane with all the lifting fan crap, even when you take the lifting fan stuff out the they still had to keep it modular and kind of keep the basic parts together to have one joint strike fighter. But when you take that away and put two engines in it. This is what you get it looks a lot better.>The J-35/J-31 um it looks exactly like fat amy except for it looks better right and i think it fixes you know gonky would complain hey you know i he likes two engines which naval variant now you got got two engines. So that's probably a better design for carrier operations. You get rid of the bulbous, you know, back to support the Stovall version that we have. And it's actually a much better looking airplane. But yeah, as far as capabilities go, we don't know. That's something that we'll find out down the road. But they've also unveiled some long range missiles that also be a threat. China's a threat. I mean, there's no no question about it. Don't underestimate your your enemies. Russia is a threat too, but China is a very big near peer adversary that we cannot take lightly because they have very good capabilities and they've got a good espionage program that has taken a lot of other stuff and integrated it into their equipment and they've tried to make it better. So definitely something that you got to watch out for and be careful of. https://youtu.be/Naz1o84-u1s?t=545
>>62878585so it's some airforce guy shitting on the f-35 because it isn't exclusively designed for the air force?
>>62878585its really funny how you're so autistic that you wrote out an exact transcript of this by ear and have been spamming it nonstop. Even funnier is that you obviously care so much about what an American thinks of your plane
Just another shit plane that will be as irrelevant as the Su-57 when war in Asia finally starts soon.
>>62878547J-20's are ansurdly big.They're like the biggest of the 5th gens.
>>62875786Do you think circular vs rectangular nozzles make a big difference? They don't, and from a frontal aspect they make 0 difference, so in total it's just not worth it.
>>62878590Yeah but, f35 is still fat and ugly, they literally put fat rolls on the f35 belly, its disgusting.
>>62874045why is the canopy front hinged when the copy doesn't have a vtol fan? cargocult
>>62879508With chinese it's not just form > function, it's that function doesn't matter at all.
>>62872856>>62873047ok chang
Have they stolen how to make single crystal turbine blades yet?
>>62877374>>62878585Image a naval F-16
>>62872502I mean, do we though?it's honestly not really good-looking, but neither is the f35you Chinese guys should have copied something better looking and more stealthy like the su57
Based Chinks thread?
>>62877273looks like a fat headed toad
>>62878585If all you care about is that your plane looks good and flies real nice then why even bother with all this stealth and datalink BS? The Flanker flew in 1977 and is basically perfect for what you want(sexy looking plane that flies nice).
>>62874331anon please, i can only get so hard
>>62877276I mean in a full scale war scenario where the electromagnetic spectrum is stuffed with shit, and mass formations of planed clashed with each other, it'll probably do its job. Sure no sneaky strikes like the jews did in syria.
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