Launched on November 6th, 2024
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>>62872512Engine info
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>weapons
>>62872631All nuclear icebreakers are support vessels as well and under the control of the militaryTherefore a military vessel
Who wants to bet it looks as bad as Kuznetsov's engine room inside?
>>62872652Nope
>>62872659Let's give it a month.
>>62872664Heres same class after years of use
>>62872652>>62872664The northern ports are very important to oligarchs exporting natural resources so ice breakers are well maintained in Russia
>>62872652Icebreakers are probably the only thing russia can make semi-adequately. Or, more accurately, is forced to make semi-adequately since otherwise basically all their ports bar kaliningrad would be useless in winter. Hence the constant seething over the Baltics and their ports being their own thing.
>>62872674These are unironically the best kept and most advanced Russian shipsI dont know why nato doesn't have any
>>62872678NATO has usable warm water ports
>>62872676Semi? Theyre the only nation on earth to field these ships
>>62872678why bother with icebreakers if none of your relevant ports/sea routes freeze over
>>62872681You're telling me this wouldn't be useful for Canada, Denmark and Norway to send supplies to our artic bases?
>>62872678>>62872687We do have ice breakers obviously
>>62872685Artic bases
>>62872509The main country who might actually benefit from this is China who can bypass any USN blockade by going through the northern route
>>62872687who fucking cares about canada lmao
>>62872687I mean Canada alone has 8 as is, and all they're really used for is sending food to snownigs so they can rape each other.
>>62872702can you just stay in one of the 5 chink shill threads you created instead of shitting up this one? thanks
>>62872699We need more
>China can bypass any USN blockade by going through Lake HATO
>>62872706>>62872703Hey Canada's cool
>>62872714Until Finland liberates Murmansk we really don't . Murmansk is pretty much the only major port in the world that requires a fleet of major big ass ice breakers to maintain
>>62872702Why is china not building any then
>>62872703Canada might become the next Panama Canal if the ice caps recede further.
>>62872702>Convoys sailing in constant Arctic daylight in range of countless NATO Arctic airbases Imagine the raiding
>>62872722>look up that city>founded 1915 outside of Finland Alright buddy
>>62872723Boaty.
>>62872723Because the Russians are building It for them, since this route goes through Russian territorial waters
>>62872738Russia has more bases and more assets in the Arctic than the NATO or the US all because of their advantage of icebreakers:>>62872723
>>62872792I know I just think we need more
>>62872509Interestingly nobody would do anything if it came to Canada and started doing shit here.
>>62872795Russia has a stupid amount of coast and most of it is frozen. I think you'll find that's why it has more icebreakers than, say, Malta.
>>62872702>China can break a US blockade by sailing through the Bering StraitAre you retarded? Do you have brain damage? If China can't bust through Malacca how do you expect them to bust through both Tsushima and the Bering Strait?
>>62872804Cause k hates canada
>>62872800That looks remarkably good if you consider that it exploded killing almost everyone and then they sawed the front off it.
>>62872804technically this icebreaker has no gun and the Hairy Dickwolf class have a 25mm pop gun so somehow the HDW actually wins here
>>62872832Wait what the fuck theres military icebreakers too?
>>62872839Why not? It's a big-ass ship that breaks ice. There's nothing about the concept that prevents putting weapons on it.
>>62872848Never knewNow can we make em aircraft carriers?
>>62872839yeag, and if you wanna see the worst procurement failure in modern history go look up what the HDW class cost Canada compared to what the Norwegians payed for the same design
>>62872857Oh that can't be that- holy fuck Canada
Ice boat?
>>62872857So norways ships cost maybe over 500 million each but Canada's at like 3.5 billion???
>>62872804This is an unarmed ice breaks so you are correct that no one would do anything assuming it followed local laws
>>62872659>floor is filthy, panels askew>dust and grime everywhere>filthy wooden benchand it was JUST launched. these so-called "people" have no pride
>>62872885>>62872870yep>but whythe shipyard is owned by one of Canada's handful of oligarchs, the Irving family
>>62872857That’s not a “failure” but a desired outcome. I don’t know anything about these ships but I’m a Canadian so I know that the overriding requirement is money-laundering, insider trading, graft and/or just welfare for insider-connected business. That’s why Canadian acquisitions strangely end up wildly overpriced in spite of so little capability. Calling it a “failure of the acquisition process in Canada” is just a sufficiently diffuse / generalized problem that the government can pretend to care about the ripoffs without being forced to deal with the real issue.
>>62872885Yeah, CAD is massively inflated. Don't look any deeper into it
>>62872714> I made this infographic myself
>>62872965Yeah looking into this ship? Its got nothing No missiles nothing
>>62873223yeah AND
>>62872800Looking pretty good for a salvaged shipwreck
>>62872832I love how incompetent the RCN is. I can only imagine how much effort it took for them to even get a 25mm NRWS. They originally wanted them to be completely unarmed. I mean considering its size it should get at least a 57mm Bofors of 76mm OTO Malara, Phalanx, and some sort of SAM even if its just a MANPAD. How the hell are we going to assert our Northern sovereignty when the Russians can just pull up with the Pyotr Velikiy and say "erm akstually this land is ours leaf"
>>62873562Ohh right i completely forgot to mention the procurement. What a disgrace, we used to be a proper country.>>62872955Checked, fuck the Irvings
>>62872723It bothers me that Lithuania doesn't have any icebreakers.It bothers me even more that Poland doesn't have any either.
How long till it's launched at?
>>62872873I had the idea to sprinkle wood chips on melting ice caps to reduce erosion, like how these ice carriers would theoretically be made. Only problem is a shitload of trees would have to be cut down.
>>628737632 years?
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>>62873768It would accelerate the ice melting.
>>62872702Do you know where Alaska is in this image?
>>62873562>>62873573the original design from Norway had a 57mm gun and a dual MANPADs launcher, we paid Irving $3.5 billion to figure out how to take those off
>>62873981It’s European? Is that why it has those module bays? Can’t wait until everyone realizes those don’t work just like the LCS modules didn’t work. The idea is that swapping modules will make getting different capabilities cheap but all that happens is that those cheap modules don’t work.
>>62872670>mfw thinking of what those poor maintenance techs go through
bros... why do they have so many...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_icebreaker#List_of_nuclear-powered_icebreakers
>>62874171>why does a country entirely reliant on sea routes frozen half the year have a surplus of icebreakersit is a mystery
>>62872509even under heavy sanction Russia is still managed to complete its incredibly expensive nuclear icebreaker. western sanction fail
>>62872800Looks like the front fell of
>>62872512Thicc
>>62872885Norway's ship cost like $65mill in 2002 for procurement alone, the entire fleet of 6 for Canada someonehow got close to CAD 4 billion for procurement and 25 years of maintenance. How the fuck they managed that i dunno
>>62872509Zero maintenance starts NOW!
>>62872678We did, once
>>62872678NATO has submarines
>>62874321Russia has tigers
>>62874332Tigers are amphibious? holy fuck
>>62874333Yes
>>62873562>can just pull up with the Pyotr VelikiyThat's the neat part, they can't. All of their kirovs are unfit for action as we speak, 3 out of 4 being permanently out of commission.
I am looking forward for Ukies blowing this piece of shit up.
>>62873970Do you know where Chukotka is in that image? Will the USN dare to intercept both Chinese and Russian ships near Russian territorial borders?
>>62874403If the USN is imposing a blockade on China they're already fighting a far more formidable opponent and the Russia navy is about as big a factor as North Korea and Iran
>>62872722But they're fucking cool anon
>>62872509But it's missing the top?
>>62872674>>62872676How selective is it to be selected to serve on an icebreaker? Are icebreaker crews unironically the most competent sailors in the entire Russian Navy?
>>62872723>Why is china not building any thenThey are. They lobbied to become an observer on the Arctic Council for a reason.>It has built its first indigenously produced icebreaker, has plans for more conventional heavy icebreakers, and is considering investments in nuclear-powered icebreakers too.https://www.brookings.edu/articles/northern-expedition-chinas-arctic-activities-and-ambitions/
>>62873970Just next to the E.
>>62872676>>62872683>Semi? Theyre the only nation on earth to field these shipsNah, he's right, semi is a good description, they might have invented the nuclear icebreaker but when they tried to build a new class of conventional ones they failed so hard they abandoned it and ordered the next two in germany
>>62874403Let's assume the US won't sink Chinese ships in Russian territorial waters. How are the Chinese getting past the Tsushima Strait?
>>62874589That's Yemen, silly.
>>62874338i forgot cats are great swimmer. it's so over for HATO
>>62872509A lot of women in that crowd. Wonder where all the men are?
>>62874695Lets hope they dont get into S P A C E
Weapons?
>>62872832>>62872857>>62872965>>62873499>>62873562>>62874240Hey I'm posted to the Hairy D. AMA
>>62872631Shut the fuck up, moron. We need these.
>>62872936Wood is light, /k/omrade. Make buoyancy.
>>62874747Where do you goon?
>>62874710>hehe we build a ship)) puccia stronc)))watch them not shut up about this particular piece for the next 5 years, desperately clawing for western approval
>>62872853Unironically based. Then deploy them South.TOTAL PENGUIN DEATH.Willy Pete those flightless fucks.
>>62872800I bet they pulled the missiles out of those tubes and put them back into service.
>>62872723No ice between communist china and the Republic of China. The PLAN is being purpose built for that invasion.
>>62872652nah, not yet. give it a few years of subhuman crews..
>>62873744>PolanPolan can only into river icebreakers (25 in total) and does not need oceanic ones
>>62872509>>62872512>>62872517>>62872624implessivski, comrade vatnik
>>62874645>ordered the next two in germany>country that never uses icebreakers builds better icebreakers than country that uses them regularlyYou can't make this shit up.
>>62872512the anchors were embezzled already
>>62875108HuhLooks cool
>>62874645Thats not true? Why are you making stuff up anon
>>62872664>>62872652>Let's give it a month.Its civilian nuclear ship its crew and corporate culture is 9000 light years away from Russian military.
>>62872678NATO aren't losers so we're capable of holding warm water ports
>>62872512saddest larp that ever larped
>>62872517>small amount of liquid radioactive waste >small >you trust us, its we we small
>>62872512>that flagliteral puke
>>62872676>Icebreakers are probably the only thing russia can make semi-adequately.Huge majority of their conventional icebreakers are Finnish made or Finnish designs made in Russia under license. Full of systems imported from the west. Couple of their nuclear icebreakers were made in FInland, aside from nuclear power systems. Even during peak of Soviet Union, they imported virtually all of their specialized ships, mostly from Finland and Poland, because military projects too all their naval architects attention. Most civilian ships they made themselves were small and serially produced stuff like coastal freighters, river freighters and trawlers. They made plenty of their own icebreakers during Soviet era, but when that shit show ended up in bankruptcy, they retired pretty much all conventional Soviet designed icebreakers because those sucked.>>62874645Its even funnier because sanctions derailed that shit, they are trying to build those icebreakers by themselves. Its funny because they have to make their own marine diesels, control systems and basically every single subsystem on those boats. Their schedule is slightly optimistic, they are literally going get their diesels from a locomotive engine manufacturer. Company that might be competent in building engines 10th of the size used on ships.>>62875048Germans didn't design those ships, they do have competent shipyards to build them.
>>62874747I've seen this photo before. You want to continue this on /cangen/. Did they really let you take a personal firearm with you. I thought the CAF would be too gay to ever let that happen?
>>62872509>>62872517is it a new reactor? surprised it hasn't become losttech
>>62874761In one of the plentiful heads onboard.>>62875720Yeah I posted it there before. That was one sail last year and it was supposed to be for a skeet shoot but we ended up taking them ashore. It was the most based thing I've done in the navy and the skipper definitely got in shit for allowing it.
I am very impressed! Russia is surely a very strong country!
>>62875630Some absolutely retardedly high percentage of all icebreakers on the planet are either made in Finland or designed in Finland. For some reason Finland poured all the concentrated autism in the country onto icebreakers. Just going off of memory it was something like 60% or 80% of all icebreakers ever made that can trace their roots back into Finland.
>>62875048more like they will build and fix your shit for a hefty price tag but that's still cheaper and faster than your own shipyard that will embezzle 90% of the money kek>ynr a russian shipyard scamming India of all countries>>62875200>Thats not true?>Why are you making stuff up anonIt is, check out Project MPSV06, they stopped work on Spasatel Petr Gruzinskiy shortly after laying the keel in 2010 when the shipyard claimed that you cannot build shit based on the documentation providedMight explain why the two ones build in 2013-2015 by Nordic Yards in Germany "Murman" and "Beringov Proliv" were called modified MPSV06-NY class insteadI have good news for you though, they restarted work on the abandoned one, renamed it "Kerchenskiy Proliv" and claimed it will be finished this year, but given how that goes we have a solid chance that the other two will celebrate a decade in service before it sets off on its maiden voyage>>62875630>Its even funnier because sanctions derailed that shit, they are trying to build those icebreakers by themselvesTrue, they tried to /diy/ them again with the MPSV06M but the delivery was already postponed by 2 years to no ones surprise>they are literally going get their diesels from a locomotive engine manufacturer. Company that might be competent in building engines 10th of the size used on ships.>inb4 they just slap 10 locomotive engines together, smekalka kek
>>62876741Its a mystery.
>>62872659What's with Russians and that soviet green and grey white anyway. Is this because they have a DNA deficiency not getting them the full spectrum?
>>62872512>Donetsk/Luhansk flags despite having literally nothing to do with this IcebreakerHave the DPR/LPR flags become the modern day equivalent of the Victory Banner? Being such a glorious reminder of Rossiya Stronk and mass casualties that they'll stick it onto anything no matter how irrelevant to remind people of it?
>>62872631seethe
>>62872631>>weapons>What is Project 23550
Question: How much of this ship was designed or built before the collapse of the Soviet Union?
>>62873744why the fuck would we need an ice breaker in litho?
>>62879401How about because of >>62876908
>>62874710Maybe they're the wives of the crew
>>62874660>confusing Yemen with Saaaaar LankaThe state of this thread...
>>62880149we don't need a dedicated ice-breaker for the ice we get in our one (1) portthese days we have to chase off any ice-fishers that dare to try and go on it, any old boat can break its own path (if by chance we do, we will ask latvia)
>>62876908When the fuck was this image made, 1850?I have not seen ice thick enough to impede a rowboat in the southern blue area in my lifetime.
>>62872509Considering alot of Russian harbours and docks are not ice free large parts of the year this might be necessary for them
>>62883450Incredible insight anon
>>62883441The Danish straits froze enough to require icebreakers multiple times in the 80s and once in the 90s. Doubt I'll get to experience it again in my lifetime, though. Maybe once the AMOC collapses.
>>62877008Yes. It's hilarious because they drafted and killed most of men from that area in meat assaults.
>>62872702>shipping routes>through the suez lol "existing route" lmfao
whats life like on a nuclear ice-breaker?sounds like it could be a 'comfy' job
>>62872676How dare you mention that BBC Puccia is moderately competent at something you fucking vatnik scum.
>>62886763Despite pols cope, traffic is currently transiting the canal
>>62886836>Despite pols cope, traffic is currently transiting the canalat significantly, dramatically lower tonnage>-60% of the gross tonnage that used to transit the strait pre-warsuez transits were $trillion dollar/annual economic impact, that has essentially been decimated
>>62872509>/k/ is a board devoted to weapons, military equipment, and icebreakersWhat an age we live in.
>>62886854(you)
>>62886858your absolute seethe is palpable
>>62886858It’s military equipment. Cry tourist
>>62872700Lol. What map is this from? The three sites in Canada don't represent any air bases.
>>62872509>inb4 towed back home and a USN sub sneaks up behind it and takes air samples confirming a reactor accident again
>>62886873(((them)))
>>62886890>>62888030Seething brownoid detected
>>62872723MR PRESIDENT WE MUST NOT ALLOW AN ICEBREAKER GAP
>>62872678Because only Canada has the geography to warrant such a thing, and we're a fucking dumpster fire of a country that has no future.
>>62872735No, it won't.The northwest passage will be the last of the northern routes to open up. Russia will get the initial surge of traffic as the northeast passage will be the first to open and they have a fleet to support it. Butt once the transpolar route is available everything will switch to that, and there is no reason to switch to the northwest passage.
>>62872509>>62872512>>62872517>>62872624You got nothing on us Moskals.
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