>>62884162From what I've gleaned, inter-branch rivalry between the IJA and IJN, lack of a robust armor doctrine, and lack of resources were some of the culprits.
>>62884162it looks cute so nothing
>>62884162>cramped turret, commander had to spot, aim, fire, and load, all while giving orders to the crew.>shitty suspension>totally outranged by soviet and american counterparts>couldn't penetrate a matildaIt was fine against Filipino garrisons who couldn't read but it was totally outclassed when fighting a comparable adversary.
>>62884162They had no reason to develop their tanks further because tehy were not fighting other powers that used tanks, and in combination with the rather slow developments of the previous ten to fifteen years this resulted in a 'jump' that moved protection, mobility and firepower of the tanks built by those other powers.
>>62884162All single man turrets compete for the worst tanks in history.All. Equally. Worthless.
>>62884162>Literally what went wrong?Tank lost, Godzilla won.
>>62884162>Type 95 Ha-Go>Main Battle TankRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE!
>>62884162Asbestos hotbox giving Kenji the premature Banzai.
>>62884162At least the Type 95 was somewhat effective during some of its action in the war (not against other tanks though lol). The CTLS/MTLS tanks were easily worse than this. The US Army had at least one nice thing to say about the Type 95 (the suspension), whereas the CTLS was considered total garbage in literally every metric.
>>62884162It could at least be used for training.Imagien joining the Panzer forces and seeing this.
>>62884162it was a decent tank when it came outthe main problem was that it was made in 1934 at a time when tanks made in 1939 were already considered obsolete in 1942>>62884210japan actually wanted to modernize their tank fleet, they made the chi-ha specifically because the I-go was too slow to do anything other than support infantryand their war in china was a major impetus in getting tank development doneit was really just down to small, restricted budgets because the navy had won the political battle for resources, leaving the army underfunded and underdevelopedironically it was the battle of khalin go that cemented the need for more modern tanks, soviet tanks were a major step up in enemy compared to whatever china had, that also saw the navy totally cemented as the center of grand strategy, and the army left with even less resources to to pursue that needso the resulting chi-ha kai was actually decently armed by 1942 standards as a result of seeing the need to face enemy tanksbut less than 1000 of them were made, because the navy got priority on all material
>>62884162>main battle tankAnyway, technically it is far from the worst of all time, considering actual unusable garbage like the t-35 was made. It's pretty much on par for a mid 30s tank and saw reasonable success in actual battles early on in its service lifespan. It likely has some of the worst operational performance stats in history due to being used well beyond its expiration date against the most technically advanced opposition in the world, but even that record for units lost vs. objectives achieved may now have been surpassed by the various Russian shitboxes getting dunked on in the hands of middle eastern militaries by Israel and NATO forces, and more recently in Ukraine. It is probably the worst tank to form the backbone of a tank force in ww2, though.
>>62884313>ironically it was the battle of khalin go that cemented the need for more modern tanksThis was also true on the Soviets' end. Their tank force in 1939 was firmly rooted in the same 1930s conceptions of tank warfare that the Type-95 was, and their experiences in the battle pushed them to adopt more modern doctrine in both tanks themselves and anti-tank tactics.
There's even worse Japanese tanks, one of them got penetrated by .30 cal fire.
>>62884162I love using this little goofball in War Thunder
>impervious to small arms fire>has a machine gun for mowing down infantry>has a gun for shooting at fortifications>tiny>mobile>very light weightWhat more do you want motherfucker???
>>62884958A cool name.
>>62885155It sounds kinda cool of you say it in shounen-voice like you're surprised and amazed to see itHA GOOOO?
>>62884218The Renault FT just got off the phone with me.It said you're a massive faggot and talking out of your ass.
>>62884162>AIslop National Post article or whatever the fuck Into the trash it goes
>enter thread>CTRL+F Bob Semple>0 results>leave thread
>>62884313>the I-go was too slowhaha hahahahahahahahahah
>>62885192You sold me on the little tank.
>>62884162>not the little whippet Fake and gay.>>62884181>inter-branch rivalryOverrated. Every time someone breaches Japanese military history they throw this out there with zero evidence. Making a good tank has fuckall to do with the navy as long as the weights remain reasonable and production times are acceptable. I know you're thinking in your feeble little mind right now how to roundabout justify this point, but the simple fact is we both know you have no evidence whatsoever.
>>62884162Coming off of world war 1 it isn’t that bad of a tank, but like most things for Japan during the war; they didn’t have the resources or the creativity to adapt once the existing doctrines were made obsolete. Everyone started the war with light tanks that basically acted as armored vehicles in today’s doctrine, it’s just that everyone else modified their doctrine through the war and the Japanese were still fighting WW1 in 1945.
>>62885454>Overrated. Every time someone breaches Japanese military history they throw this out there with zero evidence. Making a good tank has fuckall to do with the navy as long as the weights remain reasonable and production times are acceptable. I know you're thinking in your feeble little mind right now how to roundabout justify this point, but the simple fact is we both know you have no evidence whatsoever.Resources? The rivalry is overstated sometimes but it was still real.
>>62885507>but it was still realShow me the source. The letters, the memorandums. And not those "secret postwar Allied discovered" memorandums, the real deal.
>>62885577>already rejecting evidence that hasn't been brought up, based on his schizo delusionsSplendid
>>62885577Can you read Japanese Anon? Because you strike me as the kind of gaijin who won't stop bitching until we provide you with a full library of documents and a multi-paged gallery slathered in Getty watermarks.
>>62884162How can it be the worst when the St Chamond exists
>>62884162>>62884181The IJA was entrusted a large amount of metal to build a better design.They made the OI- tank.The state subsequently redirected steel priority to the navy.
>>62884281Wasn't the reason why they used the CTLS because it was light enough to go places the Stuart couldn't? Smol tank is better than no tank.
>>62884162They conquered most of Asia with these and would have held on to these territories without the US or UK declaring war on them.I'd say it's decent enough since it did the job.
>>62884297CUTE!
>you will never drive the wood powered PzI/III into battlewhy even live?
>>62886675Imagine being the cadet that crashes a coal-gas powered Tiger into your school
>>62886675cute
>>62886711It's even worse, that signs says 'German Red Cross'So driving your tank through the window technically counts as a war crime.It makes it both worse and more funny at the same time.
>>62885302>Bob SempleThe Bob Semple was made as propaganda to convince the retards that inhabit New Zealand that they had tanks too, so they could go back to doing whatever vile things New Zealanders do without worrying about a Japanese invasion. It worked for that purpose, so it was an amazing tank for the job it was designed to do.
>>62884162Nothing. It was simply outdated. The Ha-Go entered service by 1936, and compared to contemporary light tanks, was quite comparable and simply gimped by a lack of resources due to the army-navy rivalry. The tank is designed fairly well for its role, as the Japanese didn't fully appreciate the utility of the tank, and felt cheaper alternatives (such as banzai attacks, kek) were better than building a tank. Also, the Pacific wasn't a good environment for tanks, and the Chinese didn't have any true armored force until 42-43. This whole min-max mindset developed through vidya has been disastrous for casual military tech discussion; every nation has its own strengths and weaknesses, for Japan, tanks were near the bottom of the totem pole.
>>62884218Renault FT was great during WW1 but swiftly became a piece of shit when technology improved
For me, it’s Ke-Nu, the most horrifying weapon of the pacific theatre before Nu-Ke.
>>62888425heh, good one
not so fast
>>62888910Is that the Polish or the Italian thing?
>>62888344It still did okay in the Battle of Paris as a mobile hardpoint the Krauts needed a tank of their own to respond to. It wasn't until late war where small-caliber AP became common that it was worse than going without.
