Does /k/ know anything about durr rifles? I’m going hunting for the first time since I was a teen, and I’d like to get a bolt-action and a scope. My LGS mostly has Mossberg, Ruger, Tikka, Savage, and Stoeger. I can order whatever else too. I’m not that worried about price, most are under $8-900. What I should I be looking for? Also should I get a .308, .30-06, or .270?
>>62887271What are you hunting, and what estimated ranges do you expect?
>>62887283Sorry, meant to include that in my post. Whitetail, from up up to 300 yards, but will mostly be more like 100-200
If your fun store is charging you $800 for a Savage be sure to press charges for all the rapin'But for real, Savage is a perfectly serviceable budget blaster, and .308 is the best all around cartridge
>>62887308That's a pretty simple task. You could spend a lot on a nicer rifle, but wouldn't be much need. I'd just do a Howa in .270 win if you weren't looking to go too far down the rabbit hole. A tikka or a cz in .308 if you forsee elk in the future.
>>62887271>huntingget a 7mm-08.highly versatile, not over-powered, shoots flatter than .308 on which it's basedSavage, Tikka, Howa are oitstanding bang-fot-buck qualitygo for one of the mountain/lightweight variants if availablesynthetic stocks and stainless increase the price but may ? be worth it, otherwise classic wood-bluedUpscale get Sako or CZ
>>62887366>oitstanding bang-fot-buck*outstanding bang-for-buck
I have two cheap Savages and they're both much more accurate than I am. I bought both of them used, because most people round these parts shoot less than 50 rds a year so wear&tear is almost nonexistant.One of them is a .308, which is my deer gun. On a bench rest it will send three bullets through one ragged hole at 100 yds.Since optics quality is more important than gun brand, I have a Leupold on that .308. I got the scope used for $200 from a buddy who went on to more expensive scopes (Swarowski level).Pay less, shoot more.
>>62887271lol absolutely irrelevant thread, and "rifle season" is over just about everywhere, already
>>62887334.270 is great for elk
>>62887486he has an entire year to practice with the rifle then
>>62887496.270 will take elk, but I'm a fudd and I like .30 cal pills for elk. It's a character flaw.
>>62887513Oh shit, you're right. Someone asked a question about rifles on the Ukraine board again! FUCK!
>>62887532>>62887486Meant for that post I'm drunk.
>>62887271>Does /k/ know anything about durr rifles?Anything kills deer. Get whatever shoots cheap ammo. If .223 isn't deer legal in your state, get the next smallest thing, whether that's 300bo, 7.62x39, 350 legend, 6ARC etc.If you can't get past the idea of shooting deer with a small cartridge, consider a 6.5cm or 7-08 before a .308, they're easier to shoot and do exactly the same thing. But of the cartridges you listed, just go with whatever's cheap on the shelf, which will probably be .308.Cartridges are to deer hunters what lures are to bass fishermen; it really makes no difference, but it's fun to imagine it does.
>>62887486Not him, but deer season does not end until Dec 24th where I'm at so could be the same for him (or even longer).
>>62887665lmfao if u live in the only country that matters (USA) your "rifle/shotgun" season for deer is a whole weekend long probably lmfao, and depending on ur current geography, is probably over for the year
>>62887674You've never left your state, have you?
>>62887271describe the conditions under which you would use the gun, include all game animals you would hunt with it.30-06 is great if you will hunt animals larger (and more dangerous) than a mule deer (elk, bear, large boar, etc.). But it's becoming an endangered species and a bit of a boutique round. Unfortunately. It can be used for moose, but that's definitely an unusual upper-end limit where your shot placement better be very solid or you might just piss the moose off and end up mauled or dead. I use it and advocate it, but the expense is annoying as all fuck because you can't enjoy range day with it out at 500 yards anymore unless you're willing to drop a couple hundred $$s for an afternoon. If you go this route, invest in a reloading setup appropriate to your needs..308 is significantly cheaper and will handle anything from home invaders to medium sized bear to mule deer and smaller. Also, it has a vast variety of loads, so you can custom tailor what round you're shooting to what critter you're shooting. Still a good round for reloading, but not quite as critical as .30-06..270 is a great round, but not all that different from .308, so you might as well get .308 for cost & variety of commercial loads, and probably a few extra rifle options that might not be available in .270.These three rounds are generally a great option if you're shooting at 300 to 600 yards, and .308 & .270 you probably don't want to go more than 400/450 yards.If you're shooting whitetail under 200 yards, consider a levergat in 45-70 or .44 mag or .357 mag. Especially if you expect typically 150 yards & under. Great rounds, and .357/.38 special you can plink all day for reasonable cost. Handloading, again, being a serious option to invest in. Also, extra capacity for home defense.
>>62887308.243 and 7mm08 are good for that also.
>>62887496This is not a great idea. Yes, you can certainly kill an elk with .270, but if that's something you intend to hunt more than once or twice bump it up. I hunted Utah & Colorado & nearby for about two decades. Nobody used .270 for elk, and we used to give a lot of shit to guys who showed up with .308 ... which wasn't (entirely) justified, just mostly bantz because everyone else had .30-06, 7mm Rem mag, .300 Win mag, etc.Since you're after short-medium range whitetail, .308 is great & even a bit overpowered. Nice to have if you need to take a bear for some reason, or wild hog. As someone else said, .270 is nearly identical, but shoots slightly flatter & tends to be a better option for another 50 to 100 yards over .308.The other comment about optics is good. Research and invest in fairly high end optics so you can dial it in and hit a beer can every single time at 300 yards. I'm out of practice these days and have a couple injuries that limit me now, but I used to shoot apples about half the size of beer cans out at 350 yards. On a good day I could go 20 for 20 solid hits that would spray applesauce everywhere, on a typical day I could go 9 for 10 or 19 for 20. Plan for lots of practice, both time & money.
>>62887665>>62887674Pennsylvania goes into mid-January. Back about 2020 my neighbor and I each took a fat doe on Jan 20th, last day, just about 20 minutes apart as dusk was falling.
>>62887308Tikka T3X lite in 6.5 Creedmoor.
>>62887778>This is not a great ideaIt's perfectly acceptable.
>buy a rifle in 6.5 sneedmore>every boomer in the store swarms you and starts asking deer hunter questions>they ask if you think its powerful enough, deer can just walk away after getting shot with such a small round>others ask about how strong it is, shooting so flat and going so far, and how shot placement matters>they start talking about "tickets" and licenses and poaching and buying hunting tours for antelope in texas and shooting pigs from helicopters and shit you wont ever fucking afford>you literally bought it because it was 300 dollars and came with a free scope and you've never fired a bolt action before, you're planning on taking it to the local steel range just to feel cool shooting something over 200 yards away
>>62887308personally i'd recommend .308 given your digits. but also because .308 is everywhere, powerful enough for just about anything, and it's easier to find a nice price on something in it because of the age of the cartridge.
>>62887896got to start somewhere. Boomers swarming for conversation, probably do not to be at home with the nagging wife.
>>62887683>You've never left your state, have you?why would anyone ever "leave" Indiana?
>>62887271I'd also recommend .308, it's commonly available, cheap, easy shooting, and covers your desired ranges. 8mm Mauser or 7.62x54r are solid options if you wanted to get a cheap surplus Mosin or M48A (you can sporterize it, nobody cares, and if they say they do, they really don't), and aren't too much more expensive than .308, though other than soft point they're kinda lacking in commercial loads, and the surplus is often corrosive. .30-06 is also solid, if a bit overpowered, and generally has the same issues as 8mm Mauser and 7.62x54r for surplus, but has more commercially available hunting loads than the other two World War calibers.>6.5 sneedmore is a meme, you are not American Sniper.
>>62887271get Tikka or savage. savage has been using anschutz barrels which are excellent. Tikka T3x has all the money put into barrel and action with costs cut on on the frills, which is good
>>62888126p.s. don't fuck around too much. just get .308 or .243
>>62887271CZ600 are the best to get rn, most feature rich for the money.
>>62887271I guess I do.>My LGS mostly has Mossberg, Ruger, Tikka, Savage, and Stoeger. I can order whatever else too.Never buy stuff online, try to hold them in your hand, try to aim, cycle the bolt, see how it works and if it fits. You don't want no extra spendings, do you?>Also should I get a .308, .30-06, or .270?I'd say .30-06 is more versatile, it has more powder in it than .308 and it can shoot heavier bullets than .270 can. .308 is plentiful in every part of the world. .270 is quite flat-shooting. Think for yourself, but when I'm buying myself a rifle, it's .30-06 or .308, no other choice.>>62887371*outstanging buck banging intensifies*
>>62887271>>62887308.308 if you're poor or .270 if you want a lower recoil, flatter shooting round. 30-06 is a bit overkill for whitetail, but you can find options that are weak as .308 and you can find options that are almost as good as .300 WinMag. Its a versatile round for anyone in North America who might only want 1 rifle (the downside would be that its a bit more expensive than .308 ammo).
>>62887486My rifle season ends in mid February
>NPC option Axis 2 or Tikka T3>based option Ruger m77, ruger No.1, or Henry single shot
>>62891528>weak as .30830-06 is the same as .308 at worst and slightly faster with a heavier bullet at best
>>62891692t. doesn’t reload
>>62891692What this guy said, >>62891826
>>62891826'I' reload, op clearly doesn't. Were talking factory loads here
>>62887608If you shoot a deer with a 6.5cm gun won't it fucking explode
Gonna step in for a second OP.Alright lads, help me out here. I'm debating 2 rifles right now. First is the Sako 90 Varmint in .22-250 with a set trigger.>https://www.scopelist.com/Sako-90-Varmint-22-250-Rem-1-14-237-Bbl-RH-Set-Trigger-Wood-Laminate-Picatinny-R.aspxThe other is the Tikka T3x Arctic.>https://www.scopelist.com/Tikka-T3x-Artic-308-WIN-20-1-10-Bbl-Synthetic-Stainless-Rifle-JRTXARC312.aspxThe Sako is in a cartridge I've always wanted to mess with, has a nice set trigger, and is just a nice rifle in general. I've even already got a Vortex Viper that would be a perfect fit for it. At the same time, I know .22-250 is a barrel burner and I wouldn't shoot it all that often.On the other hand, the Tikka Arctic needs no real introduction. Canadian Ranger approved, nice iron sights, and evidently tough as nails. At the same time, I get the feeling that all I would really be paying extra for with it is the iron sights.Any anons got any advice one way or the other? Is one likely to go up or down in price or disappear anytime soon?
>>62892333T3x arctic for controlled round feeding
>>62892432Tikka T3 is a push feed rifle, don't bullshit me.
>>62892432I don't think it is and the Sako I'm after isn't either.
>>62892281so? we makin hamburger helper tonight anon
A Marlin 30-30 lever action with iron sights is plenty for white tail deer east of the Mississippi River.
I'm the Marlin 30-30 Anon that posted above. A friend of mine has a cousin that all of a sudden decided he wanted to hunt whitetail deer in Georgia. The guy had no equipment so he asked his cousin, my friend, if he could borrow a gun. My buddy did not want to give him an expensive gun because the guy was kind of a knucklehead. He loaned him a Mosin Nagant that had not been fired in 30 years and gave him a spam can of ammo that was from the 1960's. Cousin Knucklehead parked his pick up truck , dropped the tail gate and sat in the back of the truck while he fiddled with the Mosin Nagant and the spam can of ammo. Yup, before the sun went down he had killed a deer that filled his freezer with venison. People will get crazy about rifles, scopes and ammo when the very basics will be plenty to get a freezer full of venison. They say the Marlin 30-30 with iron sights has killed more white tail deer east of the Mississippi than any other hunting rifle.
Ignore everyone and take a deer like God intended - up close in deep woods with a Remington 760 in 30-06 or savage 99 in 358. Unload every round at the deer as quickly as possible. The first few rounds will create a shooting lane through the branches before you hit it on the run.t. Maine deer hunter
>>62887608>it really makes no difference, but it's fun to imagine it does.UHHH SORRY?? NO! Look, I read in this here magazine that this lure has a rattle that goes at a frequency that induces a special response in the fish.
Savage requires ejector/extractor replacement and chamber polishing to not feel like shit and prevent cases from sticking in the chamber
Is this the defacto durrr hunting thread? Any other public land hunters?I thought I couldn't be surprised anymore but I swear to christ, two days ago I saw an asshole bump fire a glock at a deer running down a draw.
>>62892709>savage 99 in 358No thanks senpai the superior .300 is already unobtainium enough.
>>62892817.358 ammo is about the same as .300 while offering superior ballistics at regular deer ranges. I'd gladly pick a .358 over my .300. Ideally I could have a .338 Federal and smoke both of them, but that rounds kind of dead now.
>>62893116>multiple 99sIt's pretty rare for a place to have .300 but I've literally only seen .358 once in my life.
>>62893516Could just be a regional thing. I've seen it more often than .300 in local stores, though neither are all that common.What shocked me is that .250-3000, which is what the top 99 in my pic is chambered in, is more common than both and cheaper, or at least it was when I bought ammo for it a few months ago. I always figured that it was a dead round.
>>62892792The Hmongs in my county go out in groups and volley fire at deer.
>>62893641At least it's deer this time.
as far as rifles go pretty much anything these days will work. spend money on a scope that isn't a piece of shit and make sure it's zeroed in before you try to shoot anything living with it. also if you ever plan on owning a silencer try to get a model with a threaded barrel.
>>62887271Just buy a Tikka and be eternally happy
>>62887371If you're hunting deer, don't you want to maximize your buck for bang?
>>62892333>T3x ArcticThe Arctic is only a T3x CTR is a laminated stock, heavier barrel, and iron sights. If you think those upgrades are worth ~$1k, then go with the Arctic. If not just get a regular CTR. Both use the same 10rd detachable box mags.I've personally looked into it alot since I'm also debating getting an Arctic. Pretty rifle.Don't know anything about Sako 90s or 22-250 so I won't comment on that
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>and I’d like to get a bolt-action NO.No, you wouldn't.
>>62892665The .444 is god's cowboy gun and I will not be gainsaid by anyone.
>>62894807Why not?
>>62892457>>62892485In that case don’t get either.
>>62894400Underrated bantz
>>62894563Or...maximize your buck for your buck, if you will?
GIVE ME FUDD LORE, ANY LORE, ACTUAL INFO ON WHAT THE HUNTING RIFLES OF THE 50'S WITH IRON SIGHTS FOR SIGHTED IN FOR PLEASE. 100 YRDS? 50 YRDS?
>>62898593Wut
>>62894612>heavier barrelIt's the same barrel as the ctr, just stainless.
>>62900396HuhThey always seemed to have a thicker profile barrel in pictures and videos. Even USOG mentioned the weight.I don't know why I thought that then
>>62898593Typically 50 yards
>>62887308almost anything work for whitetail44 mag from a 16+ barrel has an effective range of about 150 yards223 and 30-30 have a max effective range of about 150-200 yards243, 270, 308, 7mm08, 30-06 all work for anything 200+
