some Ukrainian media are suggesting that Russia is going to fire an "RS-26" from presumably some shithole into Ukraine. how good is this thing? will ukraine manage to shoot it down? or is it another nothingburger
That sounds like an incredibly stupid ideawhich means puccia is likely considering it
I won't believe it until the russians deny it.
What are the chances of real happening though. Aside from US, Italy, Spain, Greece and Kazakhstan issued same warnings
>>62894908>>62894910This entire war in a nutshell
>>62894897Uncle Xi won't allow it, so no.
>>62894935It's 1 ton of TNT, not nuclear
that's russia's prompt global strike analogue (just deployed). avangard with a conventional warhead; mach 27 maximum speed and about mach 7 on impact according to the heckin' science.it could be intercepted on terminal approach, but it's unlikely.
>>62894956the RS-26 is nuclear
>>62894968it can carry an avangard.
>>62894897If Puccia fires a nuke, it'll become a parking lot for the next 500 years
>>62894982Avangards are nuclear, no?
I thought puccia is winning, why do they need nukes?
>>62894924It depends whether they issued similar warnings for kh-101 and shahed chimpouts
>>62894897what would happen if one of these bad boys gets hit with an FPV drone?
>>62894988Nuclear and conventional. China unironically copied them, and I'm pretty sure Russia got the impetus to do it back when the US wanted Conventional Prompt Strike.
>>62894924best koreans are attacking ukranians now while they pretend nothing is going on. They will ignore this supposed missile test even if it somehow actually works and does not disintegrate mid flight
>>62894994The neocons surrounding trump 100% want to end the war and will gladly sacrifice the entirety of ukraine to give more gibs to israel The only 2 wildcards are trump and putin. Trump will want to swing his dick around and not look weak as you said, and putin may not be willing to agree to “peace” for 4 years while he waits for trump to get out of office without odessa and the rest of the ukrainian seaboard
Putin absolutely determined to drag 100 million russians down with him into the grave
If I lived in a country that could be for all practical purposes permanently erased by 2 nukes, I wouldn't be swinging the nuclear dick around quite so freely.
>>62895030Can you even say you have been a real Russian leader if you havent killed a significant ammount of russians?
Why doesn't russia use ballistic missiles to strike Ukraine? Like Iran did.
>>62894956>Russians expend their ICBM arsenal throwing conventional warheads at KyivOh god yes please make it happen t. neocon
>>62895040Imagine going down to hell and meeting Stalin and Nicholas II and having to admit you didn't even kill a million Russians? Can you imagine how the other Tsars would laugh at you?
If some unreal reason this shit gets taken out by a Patriot I'm going to cum and post it
>>62895044Small indie country please understand
>>62895019>The neocons surrounding trumpI read that as "the necrons surrounding trump", thanks for the wonderful mental image of the orange man being a skinjob over an ancient mechanical pharaoh. Like a very senile T-800 terminator.
>>62895019>The neocons surrounding trump 100% want to end the warthat's such bullshit. they just want a bigger cut of the war profiteering and they'll say or do anything at all to get it.
>>62895044they've hit ukraine with over 1000 of them, anon.
>>62895070That's why he has to constantly get caked in 'fake tan', its to patch up the cracks and holes developing in the preserved flesh.
>>62895048They'd make Putin sit in the corner wearing a "dumbass" hat.
>>62895070100 updoots for this epic reference that only us nerds will get!
>>62894924>S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 finally comes out today >GSC gets nuked FUCK
>>62895044They do,but they don't have enough of them left.
>>62894994>So, if they have good intel on the launch one thing they *could* do is knock it out of the sky with the systems in Poland actually designed for this sort of thing.Not really. The RS-26 is for all intents and purposes a MRBM. The Poland interceptors are meant to engage ICBMs on the boost phase AFAIK. This would be on it's terminal phase when it comes into range of the interceptors because presumably Russia wouldn't fire it from right next door.
>>62894960>inb4 it gets hecking intercepted and we all laught about it for years
>>62894908>Russia might launch an ICBM with a conventional payload at Kyiv to intimidate the USThis is why US have left their kiev embassy this morning.
>>62895084Why can't you /pol/nigs meme anymore? What happened to you? Why are you so desperately unfunny?
>>62895070Trump is not senile though.
>>62895071How is Tucker so based? No wonder (((they))) canceled him.
>The reentry speed is too high (> Mach 20) for any system to be able to properly track it and hit it.
>>62895071Love this nigga like you wouldn't believe.
Pootin will likely have a accident soon...The Oligarchs are loosing a lot of profits.
>>62895086>GSC gets nukedAs they should, nidfuckers get the atomic fire before they can call their masters.
>>62895083>They'd make Putin sit in the corner wearing a rooster hat.FTFY.
>>62895119>he doesn't knowI am now demoralized and will decommission the black swan programs
>>62895114>Dems cryingWorks for me lolWho gives a shit about all that other gay shit your talking?
Party is overNothing will happenPlay stalker 2 for nuclear nightmare, soon to be released (2 hours)
>>62895103If it targets something that has a PAC-3 sitting next to it, it can be intercepted, but it'd be quite hard. as it's functionally the single hardest thing to intercept that's deployed around the world (the Chinese versions likely aren't as fast).With saying that, the conventional variant will need to slow down more to around mach 5 just before impact, whereas the nuclear version can go at full speed (likely mach 7 just before impact).
>>62895142I've also seen it called a "dunce" cap.We need to bring that back in the schools.
>>62895086>>GSC gets nukedDidn't they relocate somewhere in western Europe?
>>62895170>Yeah, who gives a shit about results!I just repeated what you said, but in a nasally whiney mocking voiceBecause your a fag, fag lmao
>>62895048they'll make him sleep next to the shitbucket
>>62894910Russian threat level response map:>IMA NOOOOOOOOK!!!Invest in Kiev real estate>DO NOT CROSS THIS LINE OR I’LL NUKE!No action required>Duma member says NATO, the West (generally) or the UK (specifically) will be sunk into a sea of fireFurther weapon aid should be sent to Ukraine>No commentMonitor the situation>FANTASY FAKE NEWS LYING WEST MEDIA!Take cover
Nothing ever happens besides monkee screeching “ook ook imma nook!”https://files.catbox.moe/dx7jlo.mp3
>>62894897>inb4 sarmat with conventional warhead disintegrates on launch>inb4 second sarmat with conventional warhead hits belgorad
>>62895193we are going to roll bigly on initiative and make the goblins pay for it!this message was brought to you by the campaign to make D&D 3.5e again
>>62894994Leaks from the Trump camp up until now paint a very dire picture for Ukraine which is why people in the media are freaking out. HOWEVER it has to be stressed that things Trump says and the things his people say they’re going to do OFTEN have no bearing on reality once it came time to do actually do it. In his first term he DID genuinely try to do the things he promised only to be shut down by the bureaucracy or the courts. Technically the President can force Ukraine to accept a bad peace deal which is so much in Russia favor that Putin is all but certain to accept it. But in REALITY the Ukraine-US partnership against Russia is a long-term State Department project going back 15 years or more, a central policy goal in Europe and it won’t let Trump ruin it. If you’re paying attention to media you’ll know liberal commentators are panicking over Project 2025 which is a plan to purge the federal bureaucracies and bring them under Trump’s control. This is where I beg everyone to fucking CALM DOWN; the Heritage Foundation is trying to figure out this game plan but the bureaucracies are SUPER entrenched, it’s not just a matter of firing people as we’re all going to witness soon. Trump is going to be only a little bit less of a lame duck this term.
>>62894897nothing ever happens and puccian nooks don't work
>>62895131>SHOOOOOOIIIIIGUUUUUU
>>62895202What is their obsession with nuking London.
>>62895177yes, they are in Prague, Czechia.
>>62895273>Leaks from the Trump camp up until now paint a very dire picture for UkraineThis isn't true at all though, especially given that Gaetz is not expected to be confirmed successfully. Russian state media has also been unusually hostile towards Trump himself. The only real problem is Gabbard. Not that he's particularly likely to listen to his cabinet if one of them tries to tell him how he should not send weapons. Ukraine will probably just be buying those systems instead of getting them for free, but that also implies that more modern stuff may be on the table.
>>62895202>FANTASY FAKE NEWS LYING WEST MEDIA!Take cover>>62895150shit shit shit.
>>62895346Russian intellectuals think of Britain the way /pol/ thinks of Israel. Every bad thing that ever happened to them was caused by a scheming Anglo rubbing his hands together.
>>62895346They all want to live there. It's weird
>>62895086>GSC gets nukedIf Prague gets nuked, I don't have to finish my work day. NUKE ME, YOU WEAKLING RUSSIANS.
>>62895346Litvinenko exposed Putin as a pedo while receiving asylum there.
>>62895450I'll be real, i just assumed all politicians are pedos at this point
>>62895044They do, what do you think Iskander is?
>>62895346it dates back to the crimean war during the 19th century and the great game. they never recovered from that and to this day they are still asshurt abotu britain being reasonably successful despite losing their empire.
>>62895468The fact is most aren't. But Putin is and he invested an exorbitant amount into Comet Pizza style propaganda to create that exact assumption on your part.
>>62895346They’re still assmad over the Crimean war
>>62895585Anon, you're incredibly delusional if you think they even know what that is. They just celebrated the day of "evicting polaks from the Kremlin". Which is a singular event from the middle of the war they eventually lost, leading to the loss of three voivodeships. But to them only that specific even matters, not the six more years of war after that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Russian_War_(1609–1618)
>>62895640No shit, they refuse to acknowledge WW2 since it would be admitting they teamed up with the Nazis. Instead they invent their own version of the war which only started after that point.
>>62895640Poland doesn’t have shit to do with the question that was asked.
>>62894897nothing ever happens anon. learn this truth, and set yourself free.
>>62894994>(I have no idea how likely this is; my intuition is that Trump won't want to seem like a loser but that he might also see some territorial concessions for peace as a win for the domestic base.)here's how i see it going down:>Trump calls both sides to the negotiation table>Putin, in typical Russian fashion, tries to bully him into giving him everything and gets offended when he refuses>talks break down, Trump sides with ukraine out of spite, and depending on how well zelensky plays along with the whole thing, starts ramping-up aidhow it would effect US domestic politics is definitely a murky yet interesting subject though. I can definitely see Trump pissing all over his supporters if any of them criticize him, and after that who the fuck knows what will happen.
>>62895030>Putin absolutely determined to drag 100 million russians down with him into the grave"We will go straight to heaven, and they'll simply croak" - his words.
>>62894908>That sounds like an incredibly stupid idea>which means puccia is likely considering itI hate how "that's fucking retarded" is a response supporting the probability of something they'll do now.
>>62895902Actual high effort bait, I commend you good sir.
>>62895914Its been posted in multiple threads, is it a bot?
>>62895902>he posted it againlol, lmao even
>>62895131>The Oligarchs are loosing a lot of profitsRussian "oligarchs" are not your textbook definition oligarchs(wealth begets political power/influence).Old breed oligarchs(who got their wealth in the last days of ussr/early years of rf, then reelected yeltsin due to that wealth and then got even more wealth out of it) either had to bend the knee and kiss the ring when putin got on the throne; or got jailed, had to flee or died under suspicious circumstances if they didn't want to let go of their power.And "new breed" oligarchs are all of extended buddy group of putin, and he bends over backwards to grant them their own "feeding grounds" at expense of (previously successful, previously)private companies or government sector. Their "success" is entirely dependant on putin.
>>62894897WISHANIGGAWOULD
>>62895979Our interception umbrella is orders of magnitude more effective than might be suggested by any publicly available material. It's literal scifi shit and I don't mean starship troopers.
>>62896030Must be a weird feeling knowing its only a matter of time until you get thou2brutus'd.
>>62895640>They just celebrated the day of "evicting polaks from the Kremlin".>But to them only that specific even matters, not the six more years of war after that.Btw there's also a recent videogame(called "Cмyтa", Smuta/Time of troubles) about those events, made with government funding and extensively advertised by russian patriotic influencers(as "our answer to the witcher series" among other things).Ended up being a buggy unoptimised mess with no content, it is unknown if anyone ever bought it unironically.
>>62896030Reads like the internal politics of your average African nation. Amazing it's 2024 and Russia is still like this. End of History my ass.
>>62894897I like the idea of a human history with moscow no longer contributing to it
>>62895346Well you see, in 57BC Tosutigis The Red was head of the Durotriges Tribe of modern day Devon, and he was at war on and off with the Atrebates Tribe who were led by their chief Commius, who were based in Belgica but had an offshoot in West Sussex. 5000 Atrebates participated in the battle of Alesia, now remember this because it will be important later...
>>62894994Trump will probably get Ukraine to reduce its demands to status quo antebellum (i.e. February 23, 2022) + return of all kidnapped citizens and Russia to just permanent cession of territory Ukraine lost before 2022 + drop all sanctions plz, make Europe foot the bill for reconstruction and call it a day.What's got me curious is whether he'll reverse 80 years of US non-proliferation policy and explicitly permit Ukraine to start building nuclear weapons as an alternative to joining NATO since apparently Zelensky's saber-rattling on that was done with his blessing. He could also use the threat of direct US assistance in a Ukrainian nuclear program as a bargaining chip to make Putin shut up about LE NOOK and accept the terms.
>>62896357>What will the name be?Final Sunset
>>62896364Putting nukes on the border gives Russia no way out, so you're begging for WWIII at that point. It's more likely Trump's people have a different proposal planned to offer through a back-channel. So everyone gets to look good for their citizens by giving no ground, but privately they will agree to demilitarise the border (this is how the Cuban missile crisis was resolved so it's a proven option).My guess would be Ukraine gets some kind of special status where it is protected by NATO, but not actually in NATO with strict limits placed on its armaments. That's the only way both sides could be reasonably comfy with their border.
>>62896485>you're begging for WWIII at that pointour conventional arms are already being operated inside Russia to strike important targets in and around Moscow.We'll put nukes inside the border and you won't do shit.
>>62896485DMZ enfored by euro forces is trump plan or is it rumored dunno now
>>62896485>Putting nukes on the border gives Russia no way out, so you're begging for WWIII at that pointIf Russia didn’t want that, it should have honored the Budapest Memorandum to the letter.Ukraine is going to demand NATO membership (and thus protection under the American nuclear umbrella) or it’s going to develop nuclear weapons, it’s as simple as that. Now Trump can either get ahead of this dilemma and co-opt it to make sure a nuclear-armed Ukraine is still within US interests or he can not and suffer the consequences.
>>62896485>Putting nukes on the border gives Russia no way outRussia doesn’t NEED a way out, it NEEDS to fuck off and stay on its side of the border, forever.A country with 5,000 nuclear weapons doesn’t need security guarantees. Any other argument is simply excusing Russian imperialism.
>>62896303>even if you flee abroadThat's an interesting thing. Putin has normalized the idea that there's no such thing as honourable exile. Even if you go abroad you're still in danger which means it's win or die for any Russian looking to take the seat after him.As a side note, Russia is hitting nearly every marker for a pre-civil war state. It's going to take one hell of a political talent to avert that after Putin goes.
>>62896627>Russia gets to have another civil war before we doIt’s not fair bros
>>62896485>nukes on the borderLmao, this is nonsense. There are thousands of ICBMs pointed at Russia at all times. Russia has no way, ZERO to intercept them. What does it matter if a few of them are on the border>muh response timeDoesn't fucking matter. We have fucking B2s that Russia can't see despite their claims that could surgically remove most of their nuclear arsenal with conventional weapons if we wanted to.
>>62896753>We have fucking B2s that Russia can't see despite their claims that could surgically remove most of their nuclear arsenal with conventional weapons if we wanted to.Not really, there’s only ~20 B2s and thousands of potential Russians nuclear launch sites and they’ll presumably move to launch as soon as they start mysteriously exploding. The only reliable way to take out the Russian nuclear arsenal is a massive preemptive nuclear strike involving simultaneous attacks with ICBMs, cruise missiles, air-delivered bombs, and submarine-launched missiles.
>>62894897>muh nooks thread #7408472things must be going swimmingly for Russia atm
>>62896802>imagine thinking russia has this kind of capability still
>>62894924>All ATACMS were shot down and there were no casualties or damage and the US giving Ukraine permission to conduct strikes within Russia will have no effect whatsoever and we aren't worried about it and also we are launching a full-scale retaliation.
>>62895107>trump isn't senile
>>62896818Even if only a fraction of the warheads they have on paper actually work there’s no way of telling a defective warhead from a functioning one so they’ll all have to go.TZD all ‘round
>>62895086should have brought back a proper alife, sorry!!
>>62896364>drop all sanctions plzThis aint gonna happen
>>62895040The only three Soviet/Russian leaders not to be interred in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis are the three that were less oppressive than their immediate predecessors: Khrushchev, Gorbachev, and Yeltsin.
>>62895044Tochka, Kinzhal, and Iskander are ballistic missiles
>>62895070Trump isn't a Necron. He's fat and has weird colored skin. He's clearly a Nurglite cultist.
summer 2022 during peak noook posting was the most exciting time of my life. i read "nuclear war survival guide." i started noooook generals. i started reading herman kahn and thomas schelling. i was obsessed with noooks. i thought about them day and night. i would have dreams about noooks. i'd be sleeping and i'd see a flash of light out my window and think "my time has come." i learned how to disinfect large amount of drinking water with bleach. what kinds of foods last the longest. how far you need to be away from strategic targets to survive X days, and how to tailor your survival strategy depending on the distance. i drew up plans on how to barricade my home. i was alive. i went to sleep praying "please putin just fucking do it you fucking pussy i want to see the light i want to feel the burn i want the glory of god to cometh."
>>62896905>Khrushchev, GorbachevBoth Ukrainian too
>>62896981>AHHHHHHH IM NOOOOOKINNNG AHHHH AHHHH AHHHHHH OH FUCK IM NOOOOKING OH GOD YEAH YEAH YEAH FOOOOOOOOOOOK
dubs and monke dedicates a warhead to your mom's house
>>62896981Based?
>>62897003Rolling
>>62896981I'm afraid that this is the closest you'll get to a Russian nuke in real life
>>62897006No, not even remotely. Stop labeling cringe blogposters as based out of contrarianism and have some standards, jesus christ.
>>62896627I don't see any other competing faction within Russia. People either are oblivious to what is happening, or happily bend the knee. "Le opposition" is a joke
>>62896981Dude, same. I bought a pair of geiger counters, personal dosimeters and about $2k worth of survival gear and equipment.I have years worth of grain storage and 4x rain barrels full of water sitting in my basement. I'm set for the long haul.
>>62895346The Kremlin hasn't gotten any software updates since 1945 and they think the British Empire is still around and threatening Russian interests in Constantinople and Central Asia.Memes aside, MI6 had a little few of its own successes against the KGB/GRU during the Cold War and all the Chekist Dinosaurs in the modern Russian government probably hate them for it
>>62894897nahnot even worth an easy 4.5% gain
>>62894897Wouldn't firing one of those trigger all sorts of nuke warning routines and responses? IIRC you can't tell if the missile is nuclear or conventional until it hits and that's why the US dropped the Prompt Global Strike initiative.
I dunno. Maybe Putin figures that if he can’t enjoy his mega yacht nor his giant palace complex and if his new dynasty is stillborn on energy sanctions with no hope of reversal and not even able to secure the Ukrainian pipelines — maybe he’ll decide "fuck it" and live in peace and quite inside of a hyper-luxury bunker for the rest of his life.
>>62897617Yes and that’s what makes this an obvious hohol false flag
>>62897617The boost phase would be pretty hairy for anyone watching on radar, but depending on where it was launched from once the ballistic profile is established you could work out fairly quickly where it was aimed at.Also, a nuclear first strike against the USA is unlikely to be one singular MRBM being fired.
>>62895346They are big fans of "Hellgate: London" and the original Blizzard North Diablo development team.
>>62895346Bongs live rentfree in their mind alongside the Krauts.
They did it. Unprecedented "triple explosion" being reported.This is the first use of an ICBM in an actual war.
>>62900732It was 6 rvs hitting. Fucking hell.https://x.com/i/status/1859503480819548648
ITS UPcnn reporting it now
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>>62900788quit sperging out like a polposter retard, here's the two videos so far. clearly conventional warheads and zero secondaries.https://x.com/kimhvik2/status/1859515034797289854https://x.com/NateJon21/status/1859513429482144247
Yeah it's a nothing burger *yawn* better get back to bed!
>>62895035>only 2 nukesnot octa-tapping moskva and st. pidorsburg each would be a crime
>>62900790Looks like 24-32 projectiles in total, 4 groups of 'em coming in a little bit apart.
>>62900803Nah, I think it's the rolling shutter causing each individual RV to duplicate in the footage. So just 6 total RVs.
Russia hasn't tested a nuke since 1990. They're not suddenly going to shoot a nuke without making at least another test first when the last one was 35 years ago.
>>62900803I hope they fire many of their ICBMs with conventional warheads. But of course I wish a NIGGA WOULD. Too bad they won't do shit so long as they're salivating over victory in 1000 days+2 more weeks
What was the target? Anything valuable? Otherwise it just shows Russia is out of tricks. Once again a clear red line was drawn, and then crossed. Russia's response- do something only their peons will find impressive. Needing to use a weapon with practically unlimited range against a direct neighbor.
>>62900790>>62900767what would be the explosive payload on the non nuclear warheads? same as a cruise missile?
>>62900790Sorry about the dumb question, but why do they come down with a hot trail like this? Do the warheads have their own propellant after they leave the bus? Why?
>>62900816This will be a warning, anon. Do people want to continue to go along this path? Their can be a nuke one each one next time.>but we'll nuke you!Yeah, but we all lose.We need cooler heads.
That's a very expensive way to destroy kindergartens.
>>62900819The KE will be the important thing, and it'll be similar to a typical cruise missile in power, yes. That's not why it was used, though.
>>62900816Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk
>>62900823watch out guys, they might nuke after the final final final final warning (final) - copy (106)!
>>62900810sure, looks like a potato cam too
>>62900822They are just VERY fast and are heating from atmospheric reentry. You could see that in Iran's attacks on Israel as well. >>62900819Small, probably? RVs aren't very big. I think it'd be smaller than an Iskander. The only advantage would be almost zero chance of intercept. As >>62900826 says this was used as further posturing against use of Western missiles in Russia. Who knows if we'll continue to call the bluff, and on the face of it unless they actually go to nukes this weapon doesn't mean much. Considering the rumors + embassy closure started early today, and the Storm Shadow strike still went ahead, I'd go with the west calling the bluff and strikes continuing
>>62900823Russian leaders need to start losing heads. Wars of aggression cannot be tolerated, especially when those who start them threaten nuclear attack against a state without their own nuclear weapons. Russia sees it as them vs NATO. Which has always been an absurd view. They want negotiations? Then begin pulling back Russian forces.
>>62900823No they are not going to throw a nuke NATO has made it clear that it would be a red line and unlike Russia they are not pretending
Is this the R-26 Rubezh launch the Ukies were reporting earlier? Obvious the US embassy shut down for a reason so they thought it was a credible threat. I’m surprised the US would allow Russia to play games with even a MRBM like this. Wow. But I guess if we’re letting them fling Kinzhals what difference does it make. Ukies are reporting they shot down 6 of the 7 Kinzhals, probably all by Patriots.
>>62900828You likely wouldn't be alive if Kennedy didn't tell the warmongers to shut the fuck up.
Holy fuck they did itHow accurate are Russian ICBMs? Did they use some special warhead, as typical nuclear payloads have 50-100m CEP afaik
>>62900840A good chance to observe the actual performance of an ICBM. I wonder if an airborne laser will make a return.
>>62900827Site of one of the old Soviet MONOLITH bunkers. We've seen several in action already, under Bakhmut, Azovstal, every pitched battle seems to have one nearby. Maps of their locations are rare to find.
>>62900840>I’m surprised the US would allow Russia to play games with even a MRBM like this.Why stop them? It's an expensive photo-op. Everyone wishes that they would do shit, but everyone knows they won't do shit. All this so western corporate media can have their scary headlines.
>>62900839They can nuke Ukraine. And our (US) government said they won't step in if that's the case. Again, do you want to go down this path?
>>62900846
>>62900842Everyone there was very moderate, actually. You can listen to the actual tapes.https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_mis_cri/audio.htmhttps://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000303190015-1.pdf
>>62900853mole men fighting in tunnels and bunkers and in abandoned underground rail lines
>>62900848> And our (US) government said they won't step in if that's the case.Lmao get out of here faggot
>>62900819It has 800 kg payload coming down at mach 20, it's like 4 tons of tnt in kinetic energy even without any explosive
>>62900857>Biden would later say that “if Putin used a tactical nuclear weapon on the battlefield in Ukraine, the U.S. would not respond with nuclear weapons,” adding that he was not “going to have a nuclear response to battlefield use in Ukraine.” As Bob Woodward concluded, “nuclear weapons were the silent shadow present in all their deliberations.”Again, do you want to continue?
>>62900842>calling out nuclear blackmail makes you a warmongerOne nuke, and you can kiss Russkiy Mir good bye Ivan
>>62900848I don't think Russia wants to take the chance of NATO *actually* getting involved. This stunt isn't going to scare anyone but it gives a small boost to Russian morale who feel the recent missile attacks have been "answered".
>>62900863>the U.S. would not respond with nuclear weapons,Because they would respond with an overwhelming conventional strike. Get the fuck out of here faggot.> "We know you are contemplating the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine," Austin said to Shoigu, according to Woodward. "Any use of nuclear weapons on any scale against anybody would be seen by the United States and the world as a world-changing event. There is no scale of nuclear weapons that we could overlook or that the world could overlook."
>>62900864Nobody's going full MAD over anywhere in Europe, the big brains at the RAND Corporation have studied this and we'll only nuke Russia if they nuke the US.Now, maybe Britain and / or France will nuke Russia, but even then we'll stay out of it.
>>62900868And Russia will use them on NATO if they invade.And we all lose.Again, do you?
>>62900872>will use them on NATO if they invade.LMAO keep fucking panicking, the West called the bluff, you've got nothing left. PrSMs on Moscow in my lifetime.
>>62900872>And Total Zigger Death.>Again, do you?Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm a moderate.
>>62900872Russia started it, do the have the balls to finish it? No. Because if nukes were an automatic "I win" button then they would have already been used. They will keep beating their chests and slogging through the war. But they will not use nukes. Ukraine will just keep striking deeper and deeper, as they should. Russia has no more new tricks and everyone knows what their empty threats sound like.
>>62900790>zero secondariesWell yes, that's what happens when you target a rehab center for people with disabilities
>>62900881How many Russian generals were casualties?
>>62900872>two more red lines
>>62900881Yes, I'm sure that's what Russia targeted. With six warheads, they could have hit it, an orphanage, a school, a hospital, a cultural heritage centre, and a synagogue too.
what a nothing burger
Day 1002 of the 3-day SMO not-war.>s-surrender or w-we will n-ook!
>>62900872Your demoralization doesn't work. Nobody believes Russians have actual functioning nooooooks anymore
So they used a valuable strategic weapon on something far smaller ones could reach? I hope they keep doing it. They've already lost bombers and now they're losing ICBMs.
I count 6 warheads. The impact is vertical, but this might simply be due to the short-range, so it was lofted quite high. I can't see them using typical RVs without HE, rather something akin to a HGV.They say it's the RS-26.
is this the funniest board on 4cuck? i KNEW the second i read the article i could come here and see 500 posts from slavs saying russian icbms dont work>from presumably some shithole into UkraineGEG
Yesterday's strike must have really wiped out the nork high command to warrant today's ICBM chimpout.
>>62894897Russians might do it with a conventional warhead just to scare everyone but that just leaves them with one less functional delivery platform assuming it works.
>>62900848No they are not going to, they were thinking about doing it in 2022 and got told exactly what will happen if they did.
>>62900889>synagogueWouldn't surprise me, Dnipro has one of the largest ones AFAIK
NOT ICBM>A Western official has told @ABC News that Russia did NOT use an ICBM against Ukraine last night, contradicting Ukraine’s Air Force.The official said it was a ballistic missile but declined to characterize it further saying the impact was still being assessed.A Western official has told @ABC News that Russia did NOT use an ICBM against Ukraine last night, contradicting Ukraine’s Air Force.The official said it was a ballistic missile but declined to characterize it further saying the impact was still being assessed.
The shelling damaged the building of a rehabilitation center for the disabled. The boiler room was destroyed and windows were smashed.Preliminary, two people were injured. A 57-year-old man was treated on the spot. A 42-year-old woman was hospitalized,” added Lysak.
>>62900938What else would it be? The reentry trails were pretty distinct.
>>62900912check out one of the new videos. it seems like there's at least 10.
>>62900915Did you think thumbnail posting a a froge would give your copepost any weight.
>>62900834Don’t forget they cost around $20 million a piece. Russia is gonna bankrupt itself faster at this rate lmao
>>62900941Iranian Medium-range ballistic missile
>>62900941They probably mean it didn't behave like an ICBM. The velocities shown are definitely in the realm of space flight. Probably HGVs from an ICBM.
>>62900951Probably Iranian missiles
So….does Ukraine NOT have ABM capability? They have Patriots, no? Why did they fail to intercept the RVs? Lack of coverage?
>>62900941looked like the trash that fell on israel during one of the chimpouts with a more vertical trajectory
I have a dumb question>conventional warheadSo if an ICBM is armed with a conventional warhead, is it one that was created specifically for ICBMs or are they interchangeable with other types of ballistic missiles or something?
>>62900939the boiler room has fallen, Ukraine is finished..
>>62900919oh shit thats this one was about? that makes this even funnier, knowing it most likely kim who was breathing down his neck, bullying the mighty bear
>>62900955>they have Patriots, no? Why did they fail to intercept the RVs? Lack of coverage?Aren't they going a bit fast to intercept?
>>62900952It seems beyond the capabilities of even their newest one. Technically, RS-26 is an IRBM with a heavier payload.
>>62900949>>62900957Are those MIRV though? All sources as of right now are saying it was one missile.
>>62900963>>62900965Iranian IRBM with a cluster warhead
>>62900941the only non nuclear thing their icbms can carry is avangard just like usa has precision global strike so no it might have being other ballistic missiles but not icbm
>>62900963I don't even think those were explosive. My guess is ICBM with inert warheads to make a statement. A very dumb one.
>>62900963Why are there no explosions?
>>62900973>"We're totally going to send nukes next time. Cower in fear, westoids)))))))"
>>62900974there's explosions, look at the street lights flashing after the sound arrives
>>62900973those were 30 hits can you find me any mirv with 30 warheads?
Dollar went ballistic!
>>62900973Yeah, they look like purely KE impacts.
>>62900981I don't think so. Can decoys follow the warheads all the way down? Watching the videos and it does look weird seeing waves of hits.
>>62900985a single missile deletes 1% of russian gdp, such a good play by monke
Im sorry Dima but Im still not afraid of you and russia remains pathetic. Come get some.
>>62900990watch the israeli footage you can see the warheads releasing the mirvs at the last second thats the same thingeven with a moderate extrapolation of speed they are hypersonic but nowhere near mac 20-22 close to 7 9
>>62900995the cloud coverage is extremely low even 7 would be stretching it
>>62900973>>62900974Maybe solid bunker penetrating weapons?>>62900846
>>62901008from space anon? really? bunker busters? from russia? entering at mach 25? targeting dnipro? really anon? really?
>>62901004How would one use an ICBM for such short distance? Would have to loft the hell out of the trajectory. It might have been an SRBM or IRBM
>>62900995Interesting. Seems like a decent way to blanket a target of they're accurate. Though would be funny in itself if the "Russia strong" message was carried out using an Iranian missile.
>>62900981It's definitely a new layout. I'm going to go with what Ukraine said and that it was a RS-26. It could be a new smaller warhead design, to make it so terminal interception is impossible.
>>62900995Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicles release and separate in space so they can REENTER INDEPENDENTLY wartourist-kun.
>>62901013The final stages complete an orbit and then deploy the warheads. I'm sure NATO was tracking it from launch. Not sure how much info they will give the public.
>>62901012Yeah sure, if you need to crack a really big egg. The biggest MONOLITH bunkers were 100m in diameter spheres (strongest shape) with 10m+ thick walls. Every time they'd build a big factory in the USSR they'd build a big ass bunker underneath. They started doing this aggressively by the '50s and by the '70s they had the big spherical ones, but there aren't a huge number of them. There are hundreds of these things all over in the FSU.I don't know why everybody pretends like it's so secret, it's well known that the Ukrainians have refurbished them and that Russia knows where they are. You can see fresh till near some of them, which indicates they may have been enlarged.There are underground rail lines, etc. all over too. It's a moleman's paradise over there.
>>62901015i mean they dont have anything other than icbm's so getting iranian missiles was the cheapest way to get theater level of missiles>>62901016think about it for one second if it was an actual icbm the whole world would have freaked out because you dont know if it carries or not nukes (well in case of russia its always nukes)instead what we have is a ukranian statement that everyone uses as source and abc stating that the air force basicly said ukraine is lying if usa is saying this then by no means i aint believing them
>>62901036>There are underground rail lines, etc. all over too. It's a moleman's paradise over there.The Russians targeted Yuzhmash plant Dper a few times already. There's something going on underground for sure
>>62901032>hey biden its putin yeah im gonna launch a nuclear capable ICBM and its going to overfly the US but i pinky promise it isnt gonna doing anything shady bro its just gonna fly all the way back around and hit ukraine please dont nuke me when you see my ICBM on a course over the continental US i promise its ok bro
>>62900872>And we all lose.On the contrary, I look forward to colonizing your territory and putting your resources in the hands of competent people.
>>62901026nobody in the world has a vehicle with 30 warheards in the world so either this is a new huge ass missile or russia found a way to have multiple mirvs on a missileor you know its cluster munition which is 100% iranian since russia doesnt have such capability besides iskanders and those DEF wasnt iskanders
>>62901039There's something going on underground EVERYWHERE over there, do you think they battle for months over some completely bombed out husk of a village for kicks, over and over again? No there are bunkers all over of varying sizes and they are the primary places where the real elite forces are probably operating.DARPA's underground war exercises a few years ago are now easily explained too.
>>62901046personally i think the most likely answer is that each of those 6 clusters is 1 MIRV + its associated decoys/shroud/whatever. This shit isn't designed to hit the ground, it's designed to be incinerated in nuclear fire when the warhead airbursts a few 100 meters off the ground. this explains the weak ass impact and complete lack of damage
>>62901056see>>62901008and>>62901036
>>62901056i dont think you understandits physically not possible unless russia launched multiple icbms
Something new where each MIRV itself fires out a few penetrators? Made for deep ground penetration.
>>629010566 RVs + each with their own decoys could work
>>62901064OR, they launched a different ICBM than what we know about. Or it has a different payload.
>>62900974Those were the explosions. What you don't see are secondaries from hitting military targets kek.
>>62901064you do not understand what you are talking about, 6 warheads + a bunch of PenAids is very much within the capacity of a missile like the RS-26.
>>62901082an experimental icbm that can carry a shitload of warheads?orhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/uIB28MBDujwcome on now they bought the missiles for a reason instead of developing a huge ass icbm for nothing(since they have avangard)
>>62901085dude watch>>62900963count how many warheads hitsits 3030again nobody in the world has such mirv capable of deploying 30 god damn warheads
>>62897617nah looks like none of that shit happened lol
>>62901093I do
>>62900958it's a good question
>>62896981>>62897263Nook posting has been my favorite part of this entire war.The amount of seethe it creates when you clamor for total annihilation of BAME cities is amazing.
>>62901103your dick doesnt count thats a small targetable reentry vehicle
>>62901093>count how many warheads hitswe have no idea because there are no fucking explosions. warheads are not the only thing launched from a missile bus. There are 6 distinct clusters, so there are 2 realistic possibilities>russia launched 6 missiles and each had ~5 inert warheads, this would be really fucking easy to see to anyone watching for launches so we would know by nowOR>russia launched a missile with 6 MIRVs. The missile bus releases each MIRV simultaneously with its penaids, so they are on the same ballistic trajectory and impact the same place. the second one fits way better.
>>62900872If they nuked Ukraine the first time they threaten to do it, I would agree with you. Now it's a joke, the only way for them to redeem their reputation is to properly blitz to Kiev (which they will never do cause they're retarded and don't have the resources anymore) or nuke Kiev outright (which they will not do)
>>62901112OR>Russia launched some kind of bunker penetrating weapon to attack the Soviet-era MONOLITH bunker under the plantWhich makes even MORE more sense.
>>62900840>Ukies are reporting they shot down 6 of the 7 KinzhalsX-101 is the new Kinzhal now.
>>62900958they never made one (before the abm treaty got sholved) the precision global strike and the avangard are also considered as nukes because well nobody will phone the enemy and tell them "my icbms are coming hot but with no nukes">>62901112what you mean we have no ideaWE CAN COUNT we have EYESits 30 hits what are you sayingthere is no god damn missile in the world with what you proposing its iranian mrbm end of story
What do reentry decoys look like anyway? Wouldn't they separate from the actual warhead higher up to try to pull away any interceptors? This seems like something fairly new. Maybe Iranian or maybe something Russia decided to now just show off.
>their icbms don't wor- ACKKKKK
>>62896190KekkedUnderrated
>>62901110That's a good one, nice
>>62900963video's reversed, those are the interceptors shooting down the russian missile
>>62901133they are the same the only difference is that they are solid carbon tungsten
>>62901131How do you know which of those streaks of light are a warhead vs a lightweight penaid that is designed to mimic the IR/radar signature of a warhead? none of them seem to have much explosive energy past the kinetic energy of their impact>>62901133Depends on the decoy. Some are inflatable to save on space inside the missile shroud, some are basically empty aeroshells, sometimes its basically just chaff clouds released by the MIRV itself
>>62901157>that is designed to mimic the signaturemy offspring they are not designed to mimic shit if this was a real icbm warhead at mach 27 the plasma built up can be seen from a different country why would they mimic something? they cannot be intercepted
russian nukes don't work, that's what happens when you are a corrupt shithole with brain drain on the same level as south africa
>>62901165>they are not designed to mimic shit if this was a real icbm warhead at mach 27 the plasma built up can be seen from a different country why would they mimic something? they cannot be interceptedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetration_aidi implore you to read a book nigger.
>>62901174what has this to do with what you typed anon?the fake warheads are there for a completely different reason i dont think you understand what an icbm does
>>62901190my man the point is when the warheads are inert its very hard to tell the difference between the warheads and the reentering bodies that are on the same ballistic trajectory and are designed to mimic the warheads.
>>62901196on a real nuclear strike they arent on the same trajectory they are not suppose to hit the same area twice not even a nearby onethats the whole point nukes are not a weapon of war but a weapon of terror there is a huge difference
>>62900955> They have Patriots, no?Most of them are in kyiv. And if it really was icbm then they wouldnt do shit.
>>62901211Yes MIRVs can usually spread over hundreds of kilometers, i guess in this situation they wanted the extra psychological impact of close impacts. Also the short range of the shot vs the design range of the missile gives less time for the decoys/MIRVs to spread out
>>62901238oka mirv is the vehicle that can azimouth the warheadsthe warheads go straight downthe hgv's aka those little experimental vehicles usa totally says its not military and the avangard are what is considered as a convectional icbm warhead
Oh this is good, a bunch of new heretofore unrecorded submarine communications systems have come online on VLF!
>>62901255the MIRV (big black thing) is the warhead. the big white thing is the missile bus. Some decoys are released from the MIRV, some are released from the bus. depends on the design. if the decoys are released from the MIRVs then they would impact the same place as the MIRV, with a bit of uncertainty due to them likely not being stabilized like the MIRV is.
>>62900955when usa russia or china talks about abm capabilities they do not include mrbm's and icbm's for those they have very different beasts usa has gmd which at best has shown a 50-50% chance of hitting the vehicle before reentryrussia has a135 which is basicly a fucking icbm that explodes above the city in the hopes that will melt the vehicle dont know about ching chongeurope has the aster 30 ng? which is capable of hitting at best an mrbm if its lucky
>>62901266the V on mirv stands of vehicle anon the big white thing is what pinpoints each warhead
>>62901295yes, it maneuvers onto the ballistic trajectory it wants to target, releases a MIRV and then moves to another trajectory for another MIRV. The "vehicle" in question is the REENTRY VEHICLE, the part that actually reenters while the bus burns up after releasing its payload
so how does this work? >hey we will shoot icbm at you, but blanks so don't you worry>why do it though?>for intimidation>but we know it doesn't do anything where's the intimidation factor?>puccia stronk!or what?
>>62901304Shithole dictatorships care more about the 'performance' of being strong than practical effectiveness.
>>62901304It's this exact scenehttps://youtu.be/3-Rzb6fpwBc?t=86
>>62901303A multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRV) is an exoatmospheric ballistic missile payload containing several warheads
>>62901353no that would be a MRV. MIRV needs the I, the RVs need to be independently targetable
>>62901356jesus christ this dude is as dense as those warheads
>>62901304to show that it's impossible to intercept, and that NATO won't do shit
>>62901372>it shows nato that places without ICBM interceptors can be hit with ICBMsshaking
>>62901373who has working icbm interceptors in the world?
>>62901377none, it's not possible to intercept 100% of it lol
>>62901377THAADGMDSM-3A-135All of those are definitely capable of stopping a single missile strike like this. None would stop a full strike from US/Russia/China, but everyone knew that long ago.
>>62901390thaadnot capable gmd>>62901286sm3lmao>a135>>62901286
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>>62901405>uhhh we swear it's not ICBM please do not panic!! no panic!!!!!
>>62901419>Its range is 1 kilometer shorter than the defined it ICBM classificationBut still, I guess intimidation of ICBM being operationally launched, even if only filled with imitation warheads, might work against eurocuckolds and amerocuckold goverments.
>>62894908First post was the best post after all.
