I'M RELOODIN!!!
>>62903362>Boomers will buy solid oak tabletops just to screw $1000 reloading equipment to them and still insist they are saving money
>>62903373listen I'm almost 70 years old and have been reloading since I was 5 with my dad,continuing the tradition with my kids and grandkids with a lot of the same equipment. I'd say it's paid itself off by now especially with all the elk meat it's gotten us over the years
>>62903397post old man hands or your post is fake and gay
>>62903362boomers will insanely obsess over the fact +-1 grains of powder will cause major changes in the flight path or if using 3 or 4 sided primers different ignition will affect the bullet path, it's all soo tiresome they don't speak about anything else
>>62903362I spent 12 fucking hours at the range last weekend and didn't get to shoot my Lott reloads. it won't be this weekend or probably next either.
>>62903436>obsess over the fact +-1 grains of powder will cause major changesWhen I had time to reload, I found that .5 change in charge weight would impact groupings for 9mm at 25 yards.A difference in .5 grains when loading heavier bullets in 5.56 will impact groupings when shooting high power rifle across the course (500 or 600 yard targets from prone position).
Really a waste of time, unless you're a fucking poor or a sharpshooter, it's useless
>>6290370trois2/10
>>62903428
>>62903703people do it for fun
>>62903722Kek, fair enough grandpannon
>>62903428>old man handsAI fuckup was strangely appropriate in this case...
>>62903764Fun is not allowed in ways i do not like, you are not having fun
>>62903856oh okay..
If you don't obsess over ballistics, loads, turkey target densities or by gum anything to do with firearm discharges stop posting here.
>>62903373There are cheap press that takes more time.
>>62903703I shoot a lot of big revolver rounds. It’s a whole lot cheaper to reload.
>>62903373Most reloaders realize they aren't really saving money. If you reload boutique cartridges or crank out thousands and thousands a year, yeah. Otherwise it is just a fun hobby or a way to get optimal accuracy out of your rifle.
>>62903448If it makes you feel any better I’m hoping to finally try out my 444 marlin lone eagle with 444 instead of 44 on the 2nd…. Been a long wait.
Anyone still using quickload? Is it worth buying the software or is the torrent still 90% of the functionality
>>62906091I haven’t tried quickload. Have been using GRT
>>62906091lmao 140 for that
I just got into reloading, mainly for .30-06 but it came with a heap of these little spoons for powder. Are the manufacturers dumb or something? Just send one of the big little spoons so I can fill the cases up faster with less effort.
>>62906104Ya it's pretty nuts, but that's what boomers will pay for shit. Steel Beasts is still $120 for the full license ffs
>>62906138You aren't using those exclusively right? You're weighing the charge first?
>>62906138Just fill the case to the top with Accurate #2 and then compress it with the bullet
>>62906091The torrent is 100% of the functionality.The latest update had a few more powders/bullets added and couple tweaks to powders.Once you get it tweaked it's just about dead on for predictions. One bit of advice i found for .223 was>Add 7200 psi to the default value of 3626 psi for loads touching the lands. That gives us 10,826 psi. Then subtract 29 psi for every .001" off the lands. For a .03" jump that is 30×29 or 870 psi, which, when subtracted from 10,826, gives us 9956 psi, or about the 9950 psi I've been using for this much jump. You enter this value into the box beside "Shot Start (Initiation) Pressure".
>>62903703>t. doesn't live within driving distance of a Scheel'sIt's absolutely criminal how much money I save now that I have a progressive.
>>62906247No, I couldn't afford a scale so I just got the little spoons. I just scoop the powder then tap the spoon to level it and tip the powder in.>>62906268I haven't got any of that but I've been loading with this powder called Bullseye, my uncle had a bottle of it and free powder is free powder. I do have to tip a bit of the powder out to get the bullet to seat at the right height and it takes a fair bit of force to seat them with the little hand press.
>>62906894Here's hoping you don't blow your Glock up anon
>>62906589I have that same one. Thinking about getting the bullet feeder because that would increase speed by a lot
>>62906955I totally get why people would get that but honestly I'm fine just placing them myself. I enjoy the process, and when I'm in my workbench closet with some music playing on the bluetooth speaker and a drink, it's a nice way to vibe out. Tunes, booze, and gradual, steady bullet production.
>>62906987Ya I love that vibe. The bullet feeder would take away the most time consuming step, but feeding the case is comfy and takes no time at all. I also use a powder cop every time because the consistency on those drops is just kinda aids
>>62907001Consistency is easily 1/10 of a grain.Polish it and add a powder buffer. after that it's mostly technique.
>>62907010I didn't think to polish it, I'll try that. I did learn after awhile using my single stage that you're meant to cut the grains when you come down. Back then I was getting ± .2-3 grain spreads
im jelly. you fags are talking about microscopic details about microscopic results, and your being bros about it.just bros with similar interests...what a thing wish i was autistic about powder weights. shit sounds comfy.
>>62907216What books/manuals are these?
>>62907430https://www.ebay.com/itm/352221190159 for the plastic bound one and the other is Hornady volume 10.
>>62905833This. I use a Lee Loader Classic in 9mm, which is literally a standalone single-caliber die you hit with a rubber mallet. $30 out the door, has technically everything you need in the box save for actual components/powder. Actually safely using it with modern powders (that aren't on the little charge card) is a different story though. I ended up spending like $100 on an Accuprime, powder trickler, digital scale, calipers, bullet puller, etc. Good news is I can now churn out a round every 3-4 minutes even with multiple checks and grug hammering; since I live in California reloading even a common round like 9mm is worth it. Protip: Hodgdon's website has a free powder charge manual on it. It's pretty basic but you can input your caliber, powder, bullet weight, etc, and get a usable formula so you're not gonna blow your hand off from a Bubba load.
>>62906894Bullseye is good as well, sounds like you've got a handle on things.
>>62906894>my uncle gave me a bottle of bullseyeAre you me?The one he handed me was from 92. been loading for years, but I stop by to show him things occasionally.
>>62906138I find that powder dipper set to be handy. No so much for normal reloading, but for things like adding a little fast powder to solve ignition problems with large-bore rifle cartridges, black powder, small bore shotshells, etc. The thing that tickles my autism is that the set of dippers doesn't include the smallest size. If you want that one you have to order it separately. It only costs $1, but you'd think it would have been included in the set.
>>62907641>9mm every 3-4 minutesYou need a real press. Going slow I can at least do 6 a minute.
Midsouth Shooter has White River LRP for $79/1000 or $390/5000, free hazmat.Hazmat Promo: FHM1124
>>62903373>zoomer accustomed to Ikea tables begins hyperventilating at the thought of not only the table surface actually withstanding any sort of equipment being placed on it, but someone having the money to buy actual hardwood table
My friend has PTHC and I've seen it. He also gave me his reloader as he no longer wants anything to do with it.
>>62903373I put my together using 2x4 skirts.Heavy 4 layer laminate top, and 4x4 legs.Now I have to cut the legs off to get it out of my house because I stripped the screws.
Also, for you gents who load a lot of magnum pistol, Powder Valley has #8 BE86(similar to Unique) for $250. That makes a lot of practice loads.They also have #8 Accurate 4100(same as Ramshot Enforcer, similar to H110/W296) for $250.If you like shooting a hell a lot of magnum revolvers then you can easily subsist on just those 2 bargain powders.
Have you guys seen the price of IMR4227 or AA5744 recently?Holy fuck.
>>62906589What bench is that mounted on? Looks handy as shit for apartments.
>>62908497Lee also make small handpress for 90 dollar but he went with the 30 dollar grug hammer one.
>>62908697>apartmentWhen I lived in an apartment in college I mounted my loading gear to a piece of plywood and then temporarily clamped it to the kitchen counter when I used it. Only cost was a piece of plywood and some C-clamps.
>>62908697Grinder bench
>>62908997Using something similar for my P-W. 2x2 sheet of MDF on to with a hole cut so the shells drop into a bucket underneath. >Right now it's storage while I wait on parts to repair it and move a plotter into place.
My order of 250 350 gn xtp mag 500 bullets came in…. So I think I know what I’ll be loading tonight. 45 acp for scale.
>>62910990Big 'ol bullets!
>>62907430I recognize that set up from a previous thread. You the anon with a bunch of starline 45 super?
And here we go. Loading reduced recoil loads on unique tonight. Spicier stuff tomorrow. 500 bushwacker dies still work for 500 mag.
I just got a set of .357 dies from RCBS marked 79 from when they had separate .38 SPL and .357 MAG dies. $20, it needs a new boxI need .223 dies next.
>>62911990And now we’re done for the night. Light recoil unique loads 500 mag. Tomorrow night the boomier stuff, Sunday is range day.
>>62906589Clean your fucking garbage can
>>62911864>starline 45 superHell yeah! Still haven't touched it yet lol. I'm currently working on 950 .45 Auto 230gr LRNs (did 50 for a test batch), then I'll do 1000 Berry's plated 230gr RN. Both with Titegroup powder. Then split 500 230gr FMJs, half Power Pistol and half Autocomp powder. I may throw 200 158gr .357s in there for fun as I have brass ready to go. That should probably get me through the winter and in the spring I'll start playing around with .45 Super.Unless I get rifle powder and primers and start on .30-30... haha
>>62912852Busy little bee. You ever think of upgrading your set up? What you have is sweet, but even a turret press would speed things up quite a bit. The Lee APP is decent for pistol brass prep also.
>>62912164He he 500 go BOOM
>>62907390It is comfy. You would be surprised how much a little bit changes things especially in rifle. You can actually increase velocity & hit lower on target sometimes because of barrel harmonics. Once you find a node you have some leeway though.
>>62903722Grandpa, I'm gay
>>62906084Never sell that fucking gun, I miss mine.
>>62903397>it took 70 years to pay offHonestly, I respect that.
>>62912997>upgradingNext house, bigger shop: yes.Current is roughly 8'x10' exterior dimensions.
>>62913357I’m not much of a sell guns kind of person. For what it’s worth I got lucky on gunbroker and eBay (for the scope) all together with shipping I’m in it for under 800$…. Just have to catch the auction at the right time.. this one fits in perfect with my bushwacker in the box of boom. Really like the 44 mag/ 444 marlin, 500 mag/ 500 bushwacker progression. Debating on looking for something in 357 maximum..
>>62913484A BFR in 357 will do what 357 Max does.
>>62913520I know I could just load 357 hot.. up to 353 casull if I had the right gun. But I have a weird obsession with the multi caliber look and function. It would just be neat to be able to set it out, take someone shooting and go between these three guns we can work up from 38 special that feels like a 22… to 357, 357 maximum, switch to 44 special, 44 mag and 444, then 500 special, 500 mag and 500 bushwacker. It’s not really a practical obsession, but it seems like a cool idea. Plus I’d really like to find something in double action for 357 max. Don’t have any 44 or 500 special yet, but 44 mag, 500, 500 bushwacker and 444 marlin look wild as is.
>>62912535woman
>>62908541Buy a set of screw extractors [ e.g., https://www.harborfreight.com/12-piece-screw-remover-and-quick-change-bit-set-95530.html ], they will save your sanity
>>62913581They're just easier to get ahold of.There's not many 357 Max guns out there and I find them so large as to be unwieldy.
>>62913604Even if I am a woman* he should still clean the garbage can. Thing is filthy*which I am not
>be french>war in ukraine start>suddendly 9mm primers cost goes up to 300€ for 5000 shit magtechthanks Putin
>>62913865It's like that in the US too. It seems to just be inflation in the grand scheme of things.Now East Bloc calibers being expensive is fault of the vodka monkeys.
>>62913711To be fair, compared to that bushwacker and lone eagle a 357 maximum revolver will probably feel light and handy…. But yeah a cursory look through gunbroker seems to suggest my only likely chance for a double actio. 357 max is a used Dan Wesson.
I work remote and reload half the day. Low power 9mm and full power 10mm.
>>62914188Why not full power 9mm and low power 10mm?
>>62913851it's a $2 plastic can in a room dedicated to gun shit, imagine caring about it lmaowoman
>>62914235If it is only $2, then perhaps he should buy in bulk. That way whenever it gets dirty he can throw the dirty one out and replace it with a fresh bin.
>>62915154But anon… then he will need to buy a larger 5$ bin to hold the smaller dirty ones.
i just cant be asked to reload, it seems messy and labor intensive.
>>62915172thats not a problem as long as you shoot normies calibers out of boring guns.
>>62915336>RCBS>ASS
>>62912535Nah, dried shellac doesn't hurt anything.
>>62915489>clearly says RS5Lol. I know your vocabulary is more sophisticated than that, fren.
It's insane how tedious and time consuming the hand reloading process is yet to automate it and save time you basically have to spend $1,000,000 on an automatic system. Idk if I shoot enough to justify one milly, might just keep buying boxed stuff.
>>62915754Filthy casual
I assume /k/ is too poor for an automated loader?
>>62915825Weirdly the same reasons that got me into reloading (shoot a lot of big weird expensive ammo) end up being the same that keep me from considering automating it… namely I really don’t need to automate 454 casull or 500 mag production…. Putting together 50 - 100 of them doesn’t take all that long, and I have no reason to keep enough loaded on hand to justify needing an automated setup to load them.
Anyone ever get a redding full length sizing die that 'doesn't work'? Ive got 2, a 6.5 grendel die that fold the shoulders in, denting the shoulders. And a 10mm sizing die that pushes the brass down over the base. Hard to explain. But i had to get lee dies and they work fine. Redding was my goto but probably not anymore
>>62915855Does the Redding have a vent hole? Excess lube might be the problem. I assume with the 10mm dies they are tc. If you followed setup correctly then it might be a manufacturing problem. Contact their customer service & see what they say.
>>62915855Got any pics? All i use are type s bushing dies and have only had one stuck case. That was my fault because it was the first one, i didnt lube it, and the die itsself was squeeky clean from brake clean.
>>62916361Forgot to mention that even soaking it in oil the case didnt come out. I had to use an oxy-acetalyne torch to melt the brass case. All the oil caught fire and now that case has a funny burnt oil rainbow colour to it.
>>62916395Err...the die has a funny colour
>>62908497>>62908832I don't have anywhere to realistically bolt a press to, but I can use my Lee on any sturdy scrap of wood. It is what it is.
>>62903703>he isn't a sharpshooterNGMI
>>62903816What site do you use to make those ai images?
If my name is Lee is it gay to use Lee reloading equipment?
>>62903373You are if you’re shooting low-production number calibers. You can’t save money reloading 308, but .257 weatherby bag? Hell yeah
>>62916623No, masturbatory maybe to a mild degree? But get Hornady or RCBS for more longevity of equipment.
>>62916642>You can’t save money reloading 308If you're fireforming brass to your chamber, measuring powder to the hundredth of a grain and buying quality projectiles: priceless.
Stuck another .223 in my full length sizing die. Glad I have a spare...
>>62917888Jesus wept. Remember fren be like Goldilocks. Not too much lube, not too little.
My dad has a press, tumbler, etc. and I'd like to take advantage of it sometime for reloading 45-70. Is this kit all I need? Do I need the crimp and govern gauge?
>>62918982You can crimp with the seating die, so that will work. You'll especially want to do that if you're using it in a levergat.
>>62918982that's what I reload .45-70 with. works fine.
>>62919189From my experience the Lee factory crimp does a better job.
>>62906894>Bullseye in a 30-06You're lucky anon, that stuff is great and hard to find in stock these days!
>>62903373>he needs a tabletop to mount his pressget on my level, casual
>>62919281It certainly does since it's suited for it, but its not entirely necessary. If you don't have a consistent trim length I would definitely hop for it, but if you're consistent just using the seating die is fine. at least imo.
>>62919403and for the grugs out there
>>62919189Nah it's in a Trapdoor reproduction.
>>62919624>If you don't have a consistent trim length I would definitely hop for itOhhh. Now you helped me understand. I have 99% of my handloading knowledge from my engineer boomer dad. He even advised against me trying .45 Super as "it's not in the books" but I love him dearly. Just need to prove to him that reloading info is safe from outside of "approved" sources lol.I will factory crimp these 45s still as I need to haha. I still have about 400rds to go and then I may try 100rds of plated with crimping while seating.
>>62920505Forgot pic...
>>62920505Yeah, all boomers have that "handload blew up the gun in the next stall, 3 people went to the morgue" story.SAAMI is also perfectly ignorable in a proper gun. The best cartridges often have ancient data or none.
>>62920744Older books typically have hotter loads than books from more recent years. It's not like Win231 powder got hotter over time lol.Still though I know how to work up loads and check for signs of overpressure. All from what I was also taught lol.
Hey guys do you know what I did with that piece of brass? I got the other 19 from that box I bought resized but I can't find the last one. I swear I just fucking had it.
>>62920889>Older books typically have hotter loads than books from more recent years.Why?
>>62920926Probably liability on the publisher for sure, and lower loads would make a lot of guns last longer.
>>62920889Some powders did, like 2400.Others were caused by SAAMI dropping pressure per S&W's request.
>>62920908I accidentally shoved it up my right nostril.
>>62921049Good to know!
>>62920889>>62921127Oh, but to clarify, using those old loads isn't going to cause a blow up a gun.There was an old Speer manual that hd several misprints though, don't recall which.
>>62920926>>62921001colt begged SAAMI to lower pressures on .357mag because their guns couldn't handle it. you can shoot those loads in real guns no problem, though.
>>62921120FUCK! I turned my whole reloading room upside down looking for it and you had it the whole time. Just when you think you know a guy.
>>62921196It was S&W bud.The K-frames in 357 had a relief cut at 6pm in the forcing cone, this tended to crack especially with light bullets/heavy powder charge. They also liked developing endshake.The N frames in 44 Mags could literally be shot loose in under 500 rounds of heavy(boolit/charge) in their earliest iterations.
>>62918982Make sure you have something to load the primers with. On the off chance your dad only loads small stuff make sure he’s got the correct attachments for large rifle primers.
>>62919627I've got one of these. It's super slow but fun.
>>62921049If you want hot 357 loads look up European load data. They never lowered their 357 specs. If you want to load pissin hot stuff it’s not a bad place to start… just don’t misread the max pressure… I did that and ended up loading some 158 gn jhp rounds on 15.6 gn of accurate #9 before realizing I’d miss understood the max pressure…. Was getting 1427 fps out of a 7 inch Blackhawk…. I’d misread 57000 psi as the max when that’s actually the proof pressure for euro standards.. the max pressure they recommend is 44000 vs 35000 for Saami…. Those were some spicy rounds..
>>62921695To be fair a standard deviation of 20 isn’t too bad for loaded hot as hell….
>>62921695I don't need it, I hand it out.AA9 doesn't turn in very good velocity for pressure. Lil Gun does God's work for (low) pressure and (high) velocity in 357, but it's hell on forcing cones.Slowest I use is 296 under he RCBS 35-200 boolit.
Just starting out and had a question.Any hangups around having a reloading setup in an uninsulated garage? We have mild temp swings and standard hot (100 at extreme) cold (10s at extreme) but not too humid seasons here. I would keep the powders inside the house tho. Anything else I need to consider on a garage setup in these conditions?
>>62918982yes that's all you need
