It was not a ICBM that struck Ukraine. Rather it was a new hypersonic Medium-Range Ballistic Missile (MRBM), as explained by President Putin today they name it as “Oreshnik”. So far, the detail of this system is not known but experts (both from Russia and abroad) mentioned that the system is an advanced hypersonic ballistic missile system, with several advance and unique features, for instance within one missile it can deliver multiple heavy warheads, which we witnessed from the Dnepropetrovsk video. Also, it is capable to deliver both nuclear and non-nuclear payloads, obviously the Dnepropetrovsk strike was non-nuclear payload. Furthermore, experts as well as President Putin mentioned the speed of the missile is unmatched traveling at approximately 10 times the speed of sound, currently, there are no means to counter "Oreshnik" missiles.
This nigga looks serious.
Damn that's crazyWhy did the US dismantle the Pershing 2s if the other side was a bunch a lying faggots
>>62904842>as explained by President PutinGetting real tiring being threatened by this Russian midget.
>>62904856THREE dual flag pins. He is not fuckin around.
>>62904842>multiple heavy warheads, which we witnessed>no explosions>debris of nuke mass simulatorsTake that lying zigger propaganda larp to pol or something. I bet it's just rebranded Iranian missile, just like Geran or something equally stupid.
why does it smell like poop in here?
>>62904912This. It's just going to be some rebranded Iranian or Nork missiles
it's irbm
>>62904842post indoor plumbing
>>62904905You can see holes in the lapel from more too, that jacket is well-worn
>>62904842Does it matter what hit the Nazis?Nazis get punched.
>the turbomanlet that claimed that kinzhal has a max speed of Mach 10 and it's uninterceptable
Remember, this is 3 missiles launched, which likes cost several millions worth of dollars(so trillions of roubles) and Russians still can't provide any proof that this dealt any damage to Ukrainian infrastructure beside two wounded people and destroyed boiler
>>62904842So you finally found one which works?
>>629049422/8 Have another (You) because you seem like you need it.
>>62904842>there are no means to counter "Oreshnik" missiles.dw, russians will find a way to counter it being launched successfully
>>62904842They've used Kinzhals, Iskanders, and other Mach 5+ missiles. Oreshnik is no different from those.
>there are no means to counter "Oreshnik" missiles.Seems like Patriot can target it, otherwise, they would have launched it at Keef
Can you imagine the global humiliation if they armed one with nuclear MIRVs and it blew up in the silo like they usually do?
>>62905038Where are their silos? Sibera?
>>62905038And even if it launches they can only hope to hitDniprowhereinthefuckovsk
>>62905038You know that NATO would intervene if Russia used nukes in Ukraine, right?
>>62904856>>62904905He's a literal who by world standards but some kind of lobbyist within the EU.He wants Austria and others in NATO. He'd close every surrounding border with Serbia if he could. His heart's in the right place but he's a nutter bordering on grifter.
>>62905052But not if Russia nuked itself, checkmate.
Sounds like you're shook.
>>62904842>as explained by President PutinSo more lies then.
>>62905055Once again, that map is retarded. Ukraine and Belarus have the same standards of tap water as EU's clean water directive, and in some regards GOST/DSTU are even stricter. The relevant GOST is in use since 1980s, so technically russia should have safe tap water too
>>62905055This is wrong, Bulgarian tap water anywhere except a town or two with current ongoing issues is perfectly drinkable.
>>62905084>BelarusDoes Belarus have running water outside of Minsk?I thought it was mostly private wells in the villages.
>>62904877you mean the same lying faggots that took ukraines nukes in exchange for being left alone?
>>62904842It seems like something similar to what Iran recently used. MRBM with multiple reentry vehicles that land closely together (perhaps not all independently maneuvering). They can hit quickly but they're not gamechanging, nor would it make sense to equip them as nuclear if they're all landing on the same target.
>>62904856>Literally shitposts on EUbuxHe's one of the best wholesomecows around. Muscovy delenda est.
>>62904842> DnepropetrovskCity was renamed to Dnitro a whie back. Adhere or fuck off.
>>62905115>wholesomecowslulNew word filter?
>>62905122lolcow
>>62905092Okay bulgarian
>>62905122Nah he's a little too pure to be a true lolcow. Dude posts schizo maps, trolls local politicians with his existence and does it on EUbux.
>>62904842The missile isn't new, hypersonic is a buzzword and you are paid to post here.
>>62905038I think it would be a fuckup of apocalyptic proportions.
>>62905058>haha stupid HATO, Russia strong, time to show dirty xoxols in Kursk how real countries fight! Nook the city of Kursk to send a message!
>>62905247>but tsaaar, the xoxols haven't reached the city of Kursk...>DID I STUTTER?!
>>62904842>advanced hypersonic ballistic missile system, with several advance and unique features, for instance within one missile it can deliver multiple heavy warheadsgood lord they've got 1970s tech now
>>62905261>implying Dearest Leader's subordinates would ever question Dearest Leader's boundless strategic geniusThose so-called "residents" were all MI6 agents who had disguised as Russian citizens (war crime) in a futile effort to make Russia look bad for nooking them.
>>62905058Belka tier
>>62904842>more ziggerslop spamNobody is gonna buy your faggot rebrand of a ICBM when you make it inert for propaganda use you faggot cunts
>>62904842I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as ICBM, is in fact Hypersonic/MBRM, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Oreshnik.MBRM is not a weapon unto itself, but rather another component of a fully malfunctioning ballistic missile system made useful by the installed warheads, rocket motors, and vital system components comprising a full ballistic missile as defined by NATO. Many militaries run a modified version of the MBRM system every day, without realizing it.
>>62905475You're /g/aying it up, so you might as well make it a fully closed source ecosystem (even to Putin himself).
>>62905247>somehow they accidentally hit Belgorod insteadTarget coordinates is of hard comrade
>>62904877Real talk though a moment of silence for the Gryphon - the nuclear tipped ground launched Tomahawk - Air Force always had the coolest stuff
>>62905526We didn't want it anyway!
His smile and optimism: gone.
>>62905559I know people physically age with the stresses of war, but shit, he really is.
>>62904842>Launch a dud ICBM that costs millions of petrodollars and is irreplacalbe>Do 0 (damage) other than destroying some dog shack>"N-NOOO! IT WAS OUR SEKRIT NEW BALLISTIC ROCKET!!!"
>>62904842>Gunther is maduh oh you ruskies better GTFO of ukraine and embrace democracy and pluralism if you know whats good for you
>>62904842>capable to deliverESL detected
>>62905084Maybe in western Ukraine, I wouldn't drink Kharkiv tap water. But everything in Kharkiv is old
So…what are the limitations of PAC-3? They can intercept Kihnzals but not these Oreshniks? Are they only for low-hypersonics in the terminal phase? Why does Ukraine not have THAAD, Aegis Ashore, etc? Does not Europe have something?
>>62904961>60-metre craterDiameter or depth? Both ..?
>>62905573Not a whole lot of time for restful sleep when you've started WW III. And no fucking clue how to stop it.
>>62904842What I'm curious about are the reentry vehicles.If we go by the video, there are like what, 6 different clusters that come in, with 4-6 separate, re-entry capable (as opposed to ablatable/attritable) objects per cluster?WTF is going on with that?
>>62907143>WTF is going on with that?[ OPSEC ] *redacated*Turns out, a LOT of research goes into pulling off hat tricks like that. Gravity and starting out high in the atmosphere (where its a bit thin) help boost the numbers a bit.
>>62904842>there are no means to counter "Oreshnik" missiles.>no means to counter>thing that follows predictable trajectory and is headed directly towards the intercepting unitsBe honest here, are you expecting interceptors to be chasing after the missile and not put directly in front of it? These things have travel times and can be seen from a distance.
>>62907160Sure, I'm just curious about the payload(s). The regular RS-26 apparently runs 4 MIRVs/800kg payload. Seems roughly in range for 150-300kt warheads at about 200kg apiece.But what are they using on this version? There's like 24 -30 re-entry objects hitting the deck from one missile. Where are they putting them all, how much do they weight, etc? Suppose they COULD increase payload weight at the cost of range for a target as close as dnipro. 1600kg should only drop range down to about 3000-3500miles I'm guessing...Could probably even boost it to 2400kg and still have more than enough juice, but still, what are the 24 MRVs/MIRVs doing? Interesting stuff.
>>62904842>Create an experimental super advanced hypersonic missile that isn't even in full production>Use it to strike a random commieblock, not even in a capital of the enemy, or a depot or a government office???
>>62904842Oreshnik is Topol ICBM (1985) with more warheads and less range.
>>62907204A 50 kilo re-entry vehicle coming in at mach 10 has kinetic energy equal to 155 pounds of TNT.That could cause something like the kind of damage that's been shown in photos of the strik I bet. Significant but localized damage to medium and large sized structures.So I guess it could be that simple.
>>62904961clearly was an n2 mine
>>62907221>Topol ICBMOh I thought I read somewhere that it was a souped-up modified version of the RS-26
>>62907239RS-26 is Topol too.Topol started development in 1977, service 1985. Unitary warhead.Topol M is updated Topol.RS-24 is Topol with same payload and range but with 3 smaller MIRV.RS-26 is Topol with smaller range but heavier payload, even more MIRVs, number undisclosed.Oreshnik is Topol with even less range and more MIRVs.In end it's all are mods of the Soviet Topol ICBM from 1977.
>>62905055>Nicaragua From my experience: bullshit. The spirit of fuck everywhere but NATO+ I approve of though
>>62907263They decommissioned most of the original Topols too, last year apparently...some were going to be repurposed as civilian launch rockets.I bet some of those decommissioned Topols are sitting around in warehouses just asking to be repurposed as badass heavy throw-weight IRBMs.
That's great! Can we bomb moscow now?
>>62905038>Russia succesfully conducts a ground nuclear weapons test>*unrelated forest fires*t.TASS
>hypersonic>debris falls down under its weight
>>62904842who's thius?
damn that's crazy anon
>>62907204>There's like 24 -30 re-entry objects hitting the deck from one missile.Why are you so sure it was only one missile?
>>62904842>it was a new hypersonic Medium-Range Ballistic Missile (MRBM)no shit, most ballistic missiles beyond tactical/low range are hypersonic. Also, your vocabulary and writing could use some work.
>>62907204I think it might litterally be decoy mirvs. A mirv with a stack of pig iron chunks, which get dispersed on reentry to clutter the radar response with a big wall of superheated plasma.The chunks need to survive long enough to mask the real warhead, and them falling on a target hypersonic velocity on something would definitely deal some damage similar to what been shown.
>>62904842>hypersonic ballistic missileno shit
>>62907506If they're wasting mirvs on Ukraine, Russia has officially lost the last of its braincells.
I dont feel my rubble
>>62907527They are just trying to scare eurocuckolds
>>62907534They're doing the opposite. Every mirv they waste is one less that can be used against HATO. It's like firing a gun off in the air while everyone around you counts your remaining shots.
>>62907451
>>62905058Belkabros...
>>62907537So, how many mirvs do they have?
>>62907545A finite number. That's all that matters. It's not even the dummy projectiles themselves that's the issue, it's everything attached to them.
oreshnik desyroyed ruble
>>62907545A some, but they can't build new ones.
>>62907528>>62907552What's going on with russian economy? I read there is also people leaving russian central bank.
it's just the rs-26it's not newthey likely just stuffed it full with the mini-avangard hgv they've been working onit's actually designed to be used against nato and european countries
>>62904842What will be first NATO country to get hit by those if it comes down to it?My bet is on Poland.
>>62907565some uk military target if storm shadow hits something important
>>62907573Nah no way, they would never strike old west unless it's the end of the world event.
>>62907573Didn't SS hit some russian operating center a few days ago inside russia?
>>62907575there's plenty of them outside the uk.i'm just going with what russia has said. atacms probably can't reach anything important, so the us is out.
>>62904842
>>62907598You can feel russian pain.
>>62907552tactical genius
>>62907561ruble has been worth less then the indian rupee for a bit
>>62905055wait what? i thought drinkable tap water is a normal thing on this planet?isnt that the fucking point of tap water? to have it so clean you can drink it and wash dishes with it?i just learned a new thing today.
>>62907618Graph is going up, means ruble is good
>>62907565UK. If Russia has 15 working nukes and missiles they're all heading for London to kill Boris for good.
>>62907565there's aegis installation in Poland - too much risk of being intercepted - imagine deploying another uninterceptable wunderwaffe only for it to be intercepted almost immaterially...
>>62907638The Boris Cryochambers are located on all 7 continents.
>>62907565why would Poland get hit?.....why would ANYBODY else besides Ukraine get hit?that doesnt make fucking sense.
>>62907455Well I'm not..but think about the timing you need to bring those down all within 1 second of each other.No overlap, etc.Also havent seen footage or reports of multiple launches
>>62907545bet theres a bunch sitting around. Maybe the re-entry cases arent all that hard to whip up either?
>it was not a ICBMIt literally was, but we're living in a clown world where everyone lies
>>62907506Maybe they're all decoys except if they decide to swap in a nuke, then you gotta target the right one out of 30. Unless you can somehow id the right one, your terminal BMD would be fucked.
>>62905055fake map, you can drink the tap water in argentina.even tourists do it.>>62907630they are implying the tap water is of lower quality. but there is no source for the map.
>>62907682Yea, thats the point. But for a scary display and light aoe damage loading the missile just with decoys is cheap(ish?) and doesnt require inventing and testing new types of non nuclear payloads.
>>62904842>new hypersonic Medium-Range Ballistic MissileEvery medium range ballistic missile system is hypersonic dipshit it came with your suborbital trajectory.>several advance and unique features, for instance within one missile it can deliver multiple heavy warheadsLiterally 1960s technology, see Minuteman III.>as explained by President Putin today they name it as “Oreshnik”. So far, the detail of this system is not knownBecause they most likely just launched six of their existing BMs and called it a day.You don't develop a new ballistic missile in complete silence, and you definitely don't conduct its first live test on enemy territory as a propaganda move, to avoid an embarrassment in case it doesn't work like their last three Sarmat tests.
>>62907685You can drink tap water everywhere, the question is what happens afterwards
>>62907712Are you being obtuse on purpose? If I said "you can" it means "there are no consequences afterwards". It's safe to drink.
>>62907705Zenbu’s zenbus…
>>62905096nigga they couldnt maintain their fleet of tu 160s do you really would trust them with nukes?
>>62907545Fewer and fewer.
>>62907781They didnt have the money to maintain strategic bombers in the early 90's.Same with the nukes, though I kind of believe in the North Korea model( prioritize nukes over food).But the west was never going to let them keep those nukes, they kinda had to take the deal.They'd do fine maintaining nukes.
>>62907630"drinkable" in this context means "more or less what Western countries would allow to come out of their taps".You can still drink it and *probably* be fine, but the odds of that gamble change depending on where you are (usually the locals drink water from wells or bottles, and use their plumbing for cleaning and stuff).There are also quite a few countries that simply don't have widespread internal plumbing, so they don't show up on this map either.
>>62907573Russia deep down is afraid of the UK. We joke about them being buck broken by the Mongols, but they live in real terror of the UK
>>62905826>the other 39 enjoyed it.
>>62904842>Kitten... daddy is very angry with you... leave... NOWWho the fuck does this nigga think he is?
>>62907565>What will be first NATO country to get hit by those if it comes down to it? it will not happen, because Putin knows what happens if it does.
>>62907122Putin can just grab his phone, call his army chief and tell him 'move our troops out of Ukraine, starting tomorrow'He is the only guy on the planet who can actualy end this war in a day.
>>62907122>no fucking clue how to stop it."Hey Zelensky my dude sorry about the past 1000 days of 3 day special military operation, we're gonna go home now."
>>62905055So you can't drink tap water in like a third of NATO's countries? Interesting.
>>62907978The funny thing is that wouldn't change a thing on his publicity in Russia or anything about the gov. Just more of the same. Absolutely defeatist mentality
>>62904842>his lapel is all fucked up from all the stupid fucking pins he wears
>>62907801As they should be. The English are what Russians would be if they were smarter, crueler, and much, much better at lying.
>>62907801Anglo-Saxon supremacy
>>62907994He can easily spin it as a victory even if he goes out of all Ukraine, including Crimea, and even if Ukraine joins NATO. (Nobody cared in Russia when Sweden and Finland joined)Something along the lines "we've succesfully destroyed fascist formations in the Ukrainian army, we've defended our sovereignity, we've grown stronger than ever with an army who proved itself to be the most capable in the world, not on paper but on battlefield. Weve formed alliance with global south and we are now the ones dictating the will of multipolar world" and then just jail those who dont like the result. Easy.All those veterans? Well poverty will increase a bit and crime, but russians will never rise up and will never form any grasssroot movements, FSB can make sure of it. Just jail the loudest ones as traitors and discreditators.But he cant stop now because he cant let go. Cannot move on. He feels like the whole nation of Ukraine betrayed Russia and needs to be forcefully integrated back in or something.
>>62907565>What will be first NATO country to get hit by those if it comes down to it? What do you mean "those"?Russia only had the one.
>>62907795thats my pointrussia on the other hand made sure even at the expense of their citizens that the nukes would be maintained ukraine simply couldnt pull this off
>>62908269Thats simply not true, at least at the level russia claims to. Their entire military budget is roughly equivalent to what the us pays to maintain the nukes it has. The money isnt there even with PPP, especially if you factor in the endemic russian corruption.
>>62907795Maybe they could've at least maintained the nuclear material with a skeleton crew and budget.
>>62908378Bro they couldn't maintain fire extinguishers on their flagship
>>62907801Who?
>>62908378Yeah, it sure seems like they should have in hindsight, lol.But realistically who knows. I have a feeling that the west would have been all over them if they detected that Ukraine was trying to retain some kind of weapons capability or material.Hans Blix would have been on our television screens telling us how they we refusing to cooperate about the location of fissile materials or dragging their feet about shutting down plutonium reprocessing capability or something.Ukraine probably would have been made out to be a nuclear boogieman, possibly a regime-change candidate, etc.Still, if there's one lesson to be learned from all this shit it's this: NEVER GIVE UP YOUR NUKES. (unless you're handing the country over to the subsaharans maybe, lol).
>>62908529The ideal would have been give up nooks in exchange for NATO membership. Blackmail your way in like some East Euros did. And then prevent Russia from getting in, because at that point Russia would try even harder to join NATO, to dismantle it from the inside of course.
>>62908029>He can easily spin it as a victory even if he goes out of all Ukraine, including Crimea, and even if Ukraine joins NATO.This. I don't understand the argument that "Putin can't lose the war or his career is over" because the Russian population is completely brainwashed and buckbroken, they wouldn't do shit. He could just say "We basically won, we killed six million NATO mercenaries" no matter what the territory looks like and vatnigs would accept it.
>>62908529Still, they never actually handed over ALL of the warheads and fissile material until 2001.That's ten years they had to find a way to keep or copy some of it.Or at least, and probably more realistically, they could have worked to retain and preserve the institutional expertise and whatever dual-use infrastructure they could get away with.
>>62908586NATO membership would have been an acceptable security guarantee. It's what the rest of us accepted in exchange for eschewing nukes, and it's worked out so far (you know, aside from accepting that we're all defacto imperial provinces of the American empire, etc)The promises that they accepted from the West and the Ruskies instead turned out to be worth less than the paper they were printed on.
>>62907204Fairings, Decoys, the rest of the upper stage. >>62907674They did a test launch of the RS-26 with an empty upper stage that barely made it over 5500km, which was the limit in the INF. It's an ICBM in name only, but it's in reality an IRBM.
>>62908621>defacto imperial provinces of the American empireNothing defacto about it. Our grandfathers conquered Europe and Asia fair and square.
>>62905055>united statesLie.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvIky3B661s
>>62907122>I started at your bidding>France and Russia move their armies to their borders to prepare for an invasion>hurr durr you have to let them rape your civilians first or you're the aggressorBritshit war propaganda will never not look insane to me.
>>62905012The easiest way to counter it is unironically to force Siemens to stop supporting the CNC milling machinery they sold Russia that's used to make the missile bodies in the first place.
>>62905033Well I guess we could send THAAD over.
>>62908694It's defacto because technically we're supposed to be sovereign in places like this one - Leafistan.We ARE sovereign in the DeJure sense. The laws and papers and lines on the maps all indicate that we're sovereign. But the defacto reality is that Canada is an imperial province, as are most of the european countries.
>>62904842>advance and unique features>it can deliver multiple heavy warheadsThat's been a thing since 1963.
>>62904905
>>62907214It wasn't about doing damage. It was about sending a message. And that message is "we're sort of retarded".
>>62908827soruce
>>62907561Turns out that centralized economic planning doesn't work so well, especially in a low-trust/high-corruption society. Also, sanctions do work... sort of. As in, they add costs to many things in order to get around them (smuggling, substitution, etc.).
>>62904842It's an RS-26 with conventional warheads, and the range demonstrated means Russia was indeed violating the INF treaty when America pulled out.
>>62908805Kek
Anyone have a favorite “the eternal Anglo” meme?
>>62904842can we please stop calling everything hypersonic? it's getting really old
>>62909021I'm hypersonic.
>>62909021I run a replacement filter proposal by moothypersonic -> hypersanic
>>62904842>President PutinSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>62909056KEK, need one for the Moscow theater hostage crisis."132 hostages killed by carefentanyl gas deployed by security forces"
>>62909056>tanks and attack helis to a hostage situation>hostages killed in the crossfire from both sides>no terrorists killedHow did they manage to out-America America?
>>62905121why are you such a faggot? I bet you insist people tweak their pronunciation of Kiev too
>>62905559The best "how it started vs how it's going" meme I've seen lately.
>>62909087>>no terrorists killed>>How did they manage to out-America America?They killed 31 of 32.
>>62907204They used nothing for this strike, the payloads were empty.
>>62909269Yeah, I'm just talking about empty or inert RVs or whatever they are.If the form factor of those objects is all the same size as a standard RV, that would mean the missile has to facilitate buses to release 30 separate MIRVS. Probably be triple stacked at minimum.Personally I'm starting to lean towards the idea that each of the 6 "waves" of projectiles is from one reentry vehicle that ejects 3-5 submunitions or penetration aids (possible/probable dual purpose pen-aid and projectile) which all come in together.That's why we see 6 separate waves that have what looks to be 4-6 projectiles together.Just speculating. probably find out it's something else, but I'm leaning this way more than it being 30 actual full sized mirvs.China is also working on hypersonic submunitions deployed from Hypersonic Glide Vehicles. Maybe we're seeing something in a similar vein, just in mirv/MRV form.
>>62904842>It was not a ICBM that struck Ukraine.>Rather it was a new hypersonic Medium-Range Ballistic Missile (MRBM), as explained by President Putin todayRead: n-n-no, w-w-we didn't e-e-e-escalate the w-w-, opa, special m-m-m-military o-o-operation! HATO b-b-b-bad! p-p-poor r-r-russia!
>>62905121>tries to gatekeep spelling>can't spellGo sit on a cactus, fag.
I love how assmad Russians and /pol/nigs were when they came to /k/ and realized /k/ was laughing at Russia expending their limited numbers of working ICBMs hurling conventional explosives at Ukraine.
>>62904961I'm glad our tests never fail
>>62905536>US wants russia to sign an INF treaty>they refuse to do so>US puts tomahawks on a truck>russia signs treaty>years pass>russia flagrantly violates the treaty>US pulls out>wants russia to sign a new treaty>russia refuses>US puts tomahawks on trucks againhistory rhymes
>>62904877>Why did the US dismantle the Pershing 2s if the other side was a bunch a lying faggotsYou need to get out of the mindset that Russia is the Soviet Union rather than a predator wearing its rotting corpse.
>>62909828mostly at the absurdity of the concept given how inept russia turned out to be
>>62909828After 1000+ days to take the weakest and poorest country in Europe, it'd be pretty funny to try and have a victory parade about how awesome and strong you are.
>>62909887>This is a very visible and physical reminder that there IS a limit somewhereThere isn't. >the actual consequences aren't just talk.They are just talk. Because no country that looks like pic related is going to get the nukes out first. Russia is a two nuke problem. Just two nukes and there will never be a political entity of the name of Russia ever again. And Monke knows it.It's funny to me because I absolutely recognise your style of posting and I remember how assmad you were last night and that you've now resorted to coooooooncern trolling. Yopur little midget fag is NEVER going to press the button and everyone knows it. Sit down and shut up.
>>62905055>coloring the entire US in because some places have potable waterI'm sure the tap water is fine in St. Petersburg, color Russia blue too.
>>62909968Lol what the fuck was I assmad about pussyboi? You sure you got the right person?"Concern trolling". I described the situation accurately, and even made sure to highlight that opinions may vary on where the red lines, if any, actually lie, as well as the nature of the consequences for crossing them.You're just looking for a reason to sperg out and you went off half cocked and now you deserve no respect, you fucking spiritual groid.I's dotted, t's crossed, faggot. Take your bullshit somewhere else and get the fuck out of my face.
>>62908588It's not so much the Vatniks as his own Oligarchs; You think those scumbags just floated to the top of the sewer?Yes, Putin made himself the lynch pin, but that doesn't prevent them from pulling him out if they think they can get away with it.>>62909968>They are just talk.Yeah, if Putin actually wanted to show he was willing to NOOK instead of OOK, why not a Tac Nuke in Kursk?
So QRD, how real is this thing? "Hypersonic" is just a barely defined buzzword at this point.
>>62909976>I'm sure the tap water is fine in St. PetersburgThen you haven’t been there. Municipal water cannot be trusted except during winter (and sometimes not even then). Many buildings and homes have their own water treatment on site, and the ones that don’t do not have safe tap water.This is also true in the majority of metropolitan Moscow.
>>62910059The rocket exists. The question is how many have been made and what does PAC3 do if Moscow doesn’t call the deconfliction line and tell us that it’s a dud before firing.
>>62910059All ballistic missiles are hypersonic. This is just a more accurate V2.
>>62910078Yeah, but is it just a ballistic missile, that's "hypersonic" because it's falling out of space, or is it something more?
>>62905536>>Air Force always had the coolest stuffthe saddest words; what might have been
>>62910090>something moreNo lol, if you're expecting a maneuverable cruise missile it's not that.
>>62910090There are two uses of the word hypersonic,-speeds above mach 5 -an umbrella term for HGV and very fast cruise missiles to differentiate them from ballistic missiles (and the systems set up to counter said ballistic missiles)This is the former type of hypersonic, speeds above mach 5, and is being used for "oooh scary" purposes.
>>62910118So no less vulnerable to ABM than previous systems.
>>62910135correct
>>62910159Okay then.
>>62910135Thus why Donetsk was hit. Less defensive systems, less demonstration of susceptibility to AD. To me, War-Nerd, it's ridiculous. You have to hope it's as ridiculous to Western politicians.
>>62908719As a German I have the duty to say this: Siemens is a prestigious company and will never cease to trade with terrorists or dictators.Don't forget guys, we're the reason for radiation detectors on civilian airports and Iran and Pakistans nuclear program.You're welcome world.
>>62910250>Don't forget guys, we're the reason for radiation detectors on civilian airports and Iran and Pakistans nuclear program.my vague understanding was that the CIA leaned on them heavily to sell nuclear infrastructure to Iran and the Pakis.
>>62910276>CIA leaned on them heavilyUsing the CIA as an excuse is lame. I think a corp being a corp is more likely, CIA involvement or not.
>>62910276It really sucks that all the articles related to this are in German, but the details are so 100% not CIA. It's more like a really bad Simpsons episode. There was one guy who flew with enriched plutonium in his fucking suitcase around the world and sold it for ridiculously low amounts.They established contacts in absurd and unbelievable ways which could've been only topped by cheap "buy your nuclear stuff here!" adds.
>>62904842>This is last warning...Literally who? Sound like two more weeks to me.
>>62909021technically, ejaculations are hypersonic
>>62904842>>62904883>Medium-Range Ballistic Missile (MRBM)Ukraine is on Russia's border but you use a MEDIUM-range missile? That's like using a cruise missile to shoot a camel.
Not sure what this channel's sources are, but they seem to have the scoop on this weapon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Afl9DVsMY
>>62910323I mean the CIA is just another corp. they literally call themselves "the company".>>62910392I haven't read a lot about it but I remember something about Pakistan buying research reactors from someone at the behest of the CIA and breeders from France or something. whatever
>>62905055Greek tap water still gives you the shits.
>>62909887Nigger throwing a empty intermediate range missile at Ukraine isn't a fucking reminder. If their missile tests didn't constantly fail they wouldn't need to do something some damn idiotic like this. Treating a strategic level missile as a informational war weapon was so effective Ukrainians sent drones at the launch site at daybreak and then at night bombed Krasnodar Krai.
>>62905826it's only gay if it's consensual you faggot.
>>62909976Every single metropolitan area and major city isn't "some places".
>>62905559>bro just shave and grow a beard
>it had to post as a ghost, and on desuarchive at thatkwab
>>62907561>What's going on with russian economy? I read there is also people leaving russian central bank.They're pouring their reserves into the economy to keep it sort of functioning and avoid pissing off the % of the population that matters. This is costing the Russian Central Bank fucktons of money.It's not really a viable long-term solution. This war probably won't end because of that because the Russians will serve whether they're paid or not, they can barter with their allies and an ongoing collapse likely wouldn't stop their military before the Ukrainians run dry, but the Russian economy is kind of fucked.
>>62907653because PUCCIA STRONNKKKK>>62907638they would have the blessing of the amerikanskii pigdogs. Boris, the cheeky bastard, has been talking shit about donald and mighty putin recently
>>62909968>Russia is a two nuke problem.more like two hundred for adequate saturation bombing of muscovia and pidorsburg. Single bomb in each city would do nothing more then piss them off as most of the city would survive otherwise its correct. If you delete these cities in a surprise attack vatnikstan stops functionally existing. Since due to the hyper concentration of central power all decision making is there which means the colonial oblasts will be completely paralyzed without the tzar and his court barking orders at them. In practice regional governors will take over with their own kingdoms and start drifting off to their respective regions post bombing. As nobody really wants to take a secondary hit for moscow
>>62905055I would not drink NA tap water.
>>62910574>Looks at the comments>Looks at the other videos in the channelIt's propaganda for third worlders to feel good about themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if half this video is just made up information or speculation presented as fact.
>>62912490Bro...
>>62908723>send THAAD overThey are needed to protect Israel.
>>62905559Probably 100 times more worried/scared about getting assassinated as well since the start of the war
>>62912576during the cold war peak musovia and pidorsburg had roughly 2k individual warheads designated for them. Single one aint going to cut it as it leaves the underground networks intact as well as most of the buildings in survivable condition that aint straight in ground zero. Doubly so as that single minuteman warhead would be an airburst, not ground impact If you want to make sure you kill it, hit it again and again until both airburst and bunker buster until ground zeros start overlapping, covering the entire city perimeter all the way up until the ring roads. no stone remains standing. To put it in perspective things like metro series are pure fantasy as in the real world all that would be left of moscow is a flat, radioactive swamp with pieces of debris sticking out of the bogs here and there. What would be left of the underground, like metro tunnels, would flood completely drowning whoever is left alive down there
>>62910392>Hey kids, want some enriched uranium?
>>62905055>Austria and others in NATOThey're currently russian puppets though.Austria needs to be wiped clean of this scum, then they can join.
>>62908297what are you on about
Russians are ducktaping their fucking boots so that they don't get wet feet, I would not put too much trust into their nuclear arsenal even being 10% of what it used to be
>an mrbm with a simple conventional MRV warhead spooked NATO into halting targeting support inside of RussiaLmao, what pussies. Meanwhile, Israel blows up a secret Iranian nuke site LMAO
>>62904842Anyone can post the other videos of this?
>>62909056BaZed, weak should fear the strong.
Small Brain>It wasn't an ICBM because it was some super secret missileBig Brain>It wasn't an ICBM because it wasn't intercontinental
>>62909887>and the actual consequences aren't just talk.monke and his merry band of faggots keep their assets and relatives in the globohomo west. they wont do fucking shit another thing why is this nook-ook hysteria with the bot farms getting reeed all across western media while opening up chink and pajeet ones has barely any mention of it. Almost like its directed fearmongering propaganda Monke. Wont. Do. Shit. and he can go fuck himself with his barely functioning soviet garbage. Everything he, in theory, could lob into ukraine can be responded ten fold by UK alone
>>62912916>They're currently russian puppets though.Not that one obviously. He's a nutty grifter or something but he's clearly not a Russian puppet. Maybe being a western aligned Austrian is rough on your mental health. >Austria needs to be wiped clean of this scum, then they can join.I think he'd agree.
>>62910574It is a cheap propaganda for dumb niggers and turd worlders as any other video praising faggruzzian weapon, just read the fucking comments.
>>62913826>putin does everything /k/ said he wouldn’t do>/k/ just moves the goalpost and says “no no he won’t do this NEXT extreme thing”Lmao, I have 100% confidence we’ll be in a nightmare world war in the next 2 years specifically because yuros and the DC blob are fucktarded like /k/
>>62913826>can be responded ten fold by UK aloneGood bait right up 'til this last sentence. Bongs are feeble retards.
>>62913515Pidorushka, you are the one who is coping here.
>>629135091. Speak English 2. Since the Ukrainian hits inside Russia kept happening afterwards, you're wrong. Try not getting information from anonymous soft porn imageboards.>>62913919What has he done that /k/ said he wouldn't do?
>>62905055In every hotel in KSA there is a placard in the bathroom suggesting not to drink the tapwater.
>>62913919Putin won't do anything that involves personal risk, he's a pussy who hid from the sniffles at the end of a looooong table.
>>62913919You were in one of those whine threads about /k/ on /pol/ and then you thought i'm gonna show them?
>>62905096>ukraines nukesThose were USSR nukes that couldn't work without codes from Moscow.
>>62914793The technical no-how to fix that existed in Ukraine. The biggest reason Ukraine went along with it was Ukraine knowing that the cost of preserving the delivery platform was going to be extremely burdensome to Ukraine.
>>62910458Elaborate on that
>>62914793They could have just called and asked very nicely for the codes.
>>62905058>>62905336>>62907543How do you say "why do I hear flamenco?" in Russian?
>>62912576Doesn't guarantee enough damage. Try picrel instead
>>62915442Moscow was the target of at least 36 nukes, or at least I remember that number being mentiond in Command and Control.Maybe it was the number before the US made SIOP.But that book also states that SAC planned to nuke pretty much eveery single railroad bridge in the USSR. I guess there really is no overkill.
>>62907204>There's like 24 -30 re-entry objects hitting the deck from one missile.If they can miniaturize the guidance system, having many small warheads improves performance against surface targets as well as removing the need for penetration aids aka active decoys, since at minimum you would need to launch 24-30 interceptor missiles x 2 to get all warheads. Missile defense would simply be theoretically possible but practically too expensive.
>>62914468>>62912531>>62911067>>62909976>>62908698>>62907990>>62907685>>62907277>>62905092>>62905084Anons, it's just a joke about NATO+ being the drinkable tap water alliance.I didn't fact check the map for accuracy, I've drank water in some of the unshaded countries, like Bulgaria or Bosnia, and gotten sick in shaded places like Greece.
>>62905038You now remember the nuclear disasters that occurred in russian military facilities before the invasion.
>>62905559when pure, unfiltered reality is the best meme
>>62908703Then you happen to be normal anon.
>>62910059Hypersonic has a really fucking simple definition. Always had.Mach 5+.Ballistic missile falling from space? Hyper-sonic.Wunderwaffe missile navigating in deep atmo at 1700 m/s? Hype-rsonic.
>>62907630There's a lot of work that goes into making tap water drinkable unless you're drawing from an uncontaminated aquifer. Even if you're pulling clean, safe water from the ground you've got to get a workable mix of chlorine and monochloramine in to serve as a disinfectant while it sits in the watermains.
>>62904842Storm Shadow kills Russian general and hundreds of Norkshttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-kremlin-general-500-north-34174538
>>62907685>fake map, you can drink the tap water in argentina.nah, I got hella sick from it
>>62905038If it managed to launch, it would find a way to land on Belgorod by accident.
>>62907630>Seatbelts and helmets are an unconstitutional infringement on my -ACKLove to see retards self-select out of the gene pool, especially criminal retards.
>>62912562Sure, I get that the channel is oriented around a sympathetic view of "enemy" capabilities, but they seem to be uncharacteristically factual compared to most of those gearslop AI channels.Also we have other industry/related professionals starting to chime in...I mean, feel free to offer an alternative hypothesis.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7Hb0fcpbU
>>62914793Sure, it's not nothing, but given time you could probably recover the fissile material if nothing else. Jumpstart your own program.
>>62905084>The relevant GOST is in use since 1980s, so technically russia should have safe tap water tooUhhhh.... About that...
>>62918607>feel free to offer an alternative hypothesisSure, you're a concern-trolling vatnik.
>>62918658If I were a vatnigger, you just got owned by one, because you ain't got shit, you fucking pussy.All you got is this lowest common denominator bullshit to fall back on.I guess that's probably your lane. The midwit lane.
>>62918743>300 confirmed libs ownedI guess you really showed me. I am now totally pissing and shidding my pants about Putin's next red line.
>>62918743Hit a nerve there?
>>62907545>>62907550the other question is how many WORKING ones do they have left?
>>62918837If my civility is responded to with rudeness it's weapons free as far as I'm concerned.Always escalate by a factor of 10. You could just stop acting like a nigger faggot if you don't like it.
>>62918945So you consider your jimmies rustled?
>>62918834Who cares about Jewtin's red lines? Lol, I tell those faggots off too.I'm just interested in the weapon from a value-free perspective.I don't have some motivated reason to pretend it's good or bad.
>>62918958Lol, I get that you're trying to do le nato pepe poser meme war or whatever, but I don't really care. You're wasting you're time doing that shit on me anyway.Creating needless enemies
>>62918989May I interest you in picrel?
>>62919014Lol, accusing me of esl? Damn, how bad is my english.
>>62918989>le nato pepe poserBut of course you're not actually a vatnik, you're a concerned nooootral.
>>62919030
>>62919036I default to wanting the West to win, because I don't see how it's in my interests as a Leaf to root for some kind of adversarial Eurasian alliance.
>>62919030the "you're" gave you away.your is different from you're, which is a shortened form of "you are""your hands are ugly" vs you're ugly">>62919063french speaker, I assume?
>>62904856Austrian Alastair Campbell finna give it to ya.
>>62920960I know, I just get sloppy sometimes.Naw, I'm from Nova Scotia. I have Acadian roots and an anglicized french surname, but noone in the family;'s spoke it for 4 generations
>>62919063I know the idea is supposed to be that the Western alliance is ZOGGED and globohomo, and I honestly don't entirely disagree with alot of that critique.But I just dont believe that there's any salvation to that to be found in losing our influence and strength to hostile Eurasianists.Yeah, we have some big problems here in the West, but Jewtin and Xi are not gonna solve them for us.You're not going to enjoy the Chinese and Russians fucking with us all over the world any more than you like neocons and Davos fags pozzing up the culture and starting wars for Israerl now.They wont save us, they'll just push us around an it will suck shit.But people want to think there's somebody on thier side or something, lol. Siorry, but we have to deal with Zog and Globohomo in-house. It'sd a family problem. You don't invite your enemies to have a vote on family arguments.
>>62921267Like imagine inviting your enemy, say a business rival or something, to have a say in the nasty divorce between you and your wife.Do you think they ll have your best interests at heart? Of course not!But people seem to think they can trust the Russians to have our interests at heart when it comes to our own internal civillizational crises.It's ironic, bvecauser alot of those people are fans of Yuri Bezmenov and the demoralization thing, but they don't realize that THEY'RE demoralized in exactly the same way.
>>62918938It may not be too hard to crank them out depending on what they do.If they already have all they need to pump out normal re-entery bodies, it might be fairly trivial for them to just make this new design that pops out 5 or 6 kinetic submunitions before re-entry. Especially if the form factor is similar and they all fit on a standard bus like MIRVs they already build.If you mean working nuclear ones...thinking about this today and came to the conclusion that we should probably assume russia has done some kind of an audit on the viability of thier nuclear arsenal during the last 3 years.They would want to know the actual readiness of their nuclear forces. It'sa probably not wise to assume they'll only find out at the last minute that General popov sold all the trityum and the warheads dont work or something like that.Even if a signifgicant proportion of thier warheads are non functional, they probably mostly know which ones.
