Is this really a good one on one weapon like in the Bible?
>>62913810It's a lethal ranged weapon. David unironically had the advantage against Goliath.
>>62913810No. It requires an absurd amount of practice to get any good with a sling. And even then it's not particularly accurate.It is however a decently powerful weapon.
>>62913820it was the sick trickshot god will allow you to have if you're holy enough
>>62913840Go watch some videos and realize all the shit u said was your truth and no THEE truth.
>>62913810It's cheap to make, concealable, and lethal.Downsides are its absurdly high learning curve, and it takes a lot of space to use. Those are pretty major downsides unless you're an ancient shepherd with nothing to do all day but practice flinging rocks while gazing at sheep ass.
>>62913810Yeah, BUT you need practice. >>62913840>Decently powerfulYou, sir, are vastly underestimating how fucking dead you'll be if one hits you.
>>62913845Supposedly Goliath's gigantism both make him ponderously slow due to joint issues, since there was no real arthritis medicine then besides maybe cannabis.Some Biblical scholars argue that 1 Samuel 17:49>"Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?"Implies Goliath suffered from double vision and saw 2 skinny boys approaching. Or, mistook a slack hanging sling as a stick.Vision issues are a common sideffect of pituitary tumors.
>>62913860>your truth and not THEE truthLet's no fucking normalize this kind of talk
>>62913810Who has the webm of that guy smoking a watermelon?
>>62913810unless you have a large shield to hide behind you are instantly dead. Slings are still accurate enough to hit your legs and feet even if you are advancing with a shield which would be agonizingly painful. I would almost rather be shot>>62914020https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHyK6r1Jbng
>>62914077Thank you, anon. That may be a different guy but it is a superior watch.
>>62913872All weapons require practice. What's your point?
>>62913810It's useful, but not as a dueling weapon.You'd need to stand still to 'spool up'. And for less practice than a sling, a duelist could throw a spear into the person while they were standing there.Unless David just Trebuchet-d that shit into Goliath's face, it was Goliath giving him a freebie out of arrogance, or congenital gigantism plus old fight wounds had caught up to him and he was genuinely that slow.
>>62913810It’s so good that its function was replaced by bows.
>>62913810Slings are relatively unknown by normies and massively overrated by contrarians.>>62914675Not really. Slings remained in use right up to the gunpowder era.
>>62913872You have to keep it in perspective. Slings get mogged by .380 pocket guns in terms of power.
>>62913862>gazing
Not a good one on one weapon, but it's far better to have a sling and backup melee in an open field than just a melee weapon. It depends on the mass of the projectile, but a sling can potentially hit harder than a 22 LR bullet. Difference is it is far less easy to penetrate so the force will spread out more. It will still fracture skulls, ribs, limbs etc. A good slinger can be very accurate, so closing the distance can be very dangerous if they are aware you are there. There's a reason why shepherds confidently carried a sling and staff for protections against wolves and bandits for a very long time.
>>62913820The sling was a weapon of war in the ancient world. A big theme in the Bible is "don't be stupid, pay attention to what's going on and use the advantages you have"
>>62913820>David unironically had the advantage against Goliath.Only because Goliath removed his helm.
>>62914149Holy crap you are stupid. Nigga go figure it out.
>>62913820>>62913840>>62913845Are there any examples in real life though?
>>62914675That's not true at all. Both of them are truly ancient stone age weapons, and both of them remained in use until gunpowder weapons.
>>62913840See>>62914077Guy hits a soup can at 60 meters @ 02:40 and he is just a hobbyist.
>>62915468https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/whistling-sling-bullets-were-roman-troops-secret-weapon/
>>62913877That's nonsense, Goliath was a literal giant, not some guy with a hormone problem. He's what the Romans would've called a cyclops, how can he have double vision when he only has one eye?
>>62913840retard lol
>>62915468Read a history book you retarded gorilla nigger.Holy shit imagine being on /k/ and not knowing SHIT about the romans.Dumb monkey tourist jackoff.
>>62914149Slings require A LOT of fucking practice. It takes way, way longer to become proficient with a sling compared to a bow or gun.
>>62914149You know you can just make a sling and test it out, right? Go do that, then buy a bow and practice with it for an hour.See which one you can hit shit with first.
>>62915523No, Goliath was just an Aryan white dude, which made him basically a giant compared to a Jewish teenager.
>>62915523Whatever the reason he was a giant, if he was man-shaped, he would have all the same problems as Robert Pershing Wadlow, who also died from a single wound.
>>62913845>sick trickshot god will allow youUnless the enemy has a chariot or some iron. Or was it both?
>>62916515>he would have all the same problems as Robert Pershing Wadlow, who also died from a single wound.Because it got infected and his immune system was fucked, not because someone hit his weak point for massive damage.
>>62913810David was only able to hit Goliath because God blessed his aim. Without divine intervention, there is no way a random 5' sheepherder could one-off headshot a trained warrior who stood over 9' tall.
What's more dangerous in the hands of a master: A sling or a blowgun?
A sling is the ultimate improvised weapon. Find a rope and a rock and you can one-shot elk.
>>62917037Without qualification, the sling. In a dense jungle or anywhere else without the space to swing, obviously the blow gun.
>>62913810I wish it was normal to dress like this
>>62917088There is no law that says you can't. Stop being a pussy and put on a toga.
>>62917109OP pic is not a toga
>>62913810It is hard to use and can be fashioned out of all kinds of stuff, including paracord or an extension cord and a bit of leather or cloth. The logistics of projectiles get tricky and is largely determined by how many rocks you can carry/stage.https://youtu.be/1DmWKwy_Ndw?si=agp_68Y6vl4WS4CzGood thread OP.
>>62917037A sling. Blowguns are awful as weapons.
>>62913872Not very? They could do a lot of damage but it generally wasn't outright lethal. It would bludgeon you hard enough that you couldn't really fight or defend yourself. Even in the case of David and Goliath, according to the story, the hit to the head knocked Goliath silly but David still took his sword to cut his head off and actually kill him
>>62918570nigger its a rock flying at your head at 70m/s. It turned Goliath into a fucking vegetable. The energy transfer into your skull is the same as car crash without a seatbeltyou clearly never went outside much as a kid as you should know that throwing a rock with just your hand by itself is enough to seriously hurt someone
>>62918570Anon it is both a matter of historical record (Antiquity) and experimental archaeology (The Seleucid Army of Antiochus the great & Light Infantry of the Greek and Roman World by By Jean Charl du Plessis) is fucking lethal to unarmoured and armored opponents.
>>62918636>>62918774>getting this triggeredLead bullets to the dome would crack your skull, sure. I'm saying it's not what that retard suggested of instant death like a gun shot to the heart. And definitely not going to kill instantly from a body or limb shot.
>>62918900Well a limb shot with a bullet probably won't kill either. A'jus'sayin'.
>more lethal than a bow>more range than a bow>more accurate than a bowGood slingers like those of the Balearics and Rhodes could do all of this. Rhodian hoplites would even carry slings in addition to the rest of their panoply and could fight in a phalanx or as a slinger depending on what was required of them (as seen in the Anabasis).That said, a bad slinger couldn't do any of this. I bought a sling recently and I can't even hit my building with regularity yet.
>>62920788None of that is true if you're proficient with a bow. The only real advantage to a sling is ease of access; you can make a sling fast out of plants and garbage. But if you have a bow... use a bow.
>>62916347If Goliath was an ethnic Philistine and not some type of mercenary he would have been arguably Greek.
>>62917037Blow gun is only good for close range stealth with poisoned dart.
>>62920987I wouldn't want to have to carry a bow and quiver in addition to Hoplite loadout. A sling on the other hand is negligible weight and space and you can get ammo when you stop for water.
>is this a good one on one weaponhell no, that is why god was on David's side, because he didnt stand a chance otherwise
>>62921097God hates jews. Read the old Testament, he curses and tries to genocide them over and over again. Even David was a murdering adulterous piece of shit.
>>62921106Imagine creating something you hate and being incapable of erasing that mistake. God either doesn't exist or is wildly incompetent.
>>62921149God has to stick by their word. They are a cosmic A.I. created to oppose chaos.
>>62920987All of that was true. A sling bullet is more lethal because a well slung one can crack your skull through your helmet or break bones through your armor. An arrow can't. As for range, slingers were always said to have more range than bows by every ancient writer I've read. Accuracy might be a bit of hyperbole on my part, but a good slinger could hit knees or heads at mid range with accuracy that could at least match a bow.You said the magic word though. Proficient. While bows do require a lot of practice to get good, slings require even more. It's kinda like how crossbows largely replaced bows later on. The easier to use weapon is always going to be the one that wins out in the end.
>>62921106It's the opposite actually. God picked the most despicable people on the planet to show us that even the worst of people aren't beyond His love.
>>62913810I would say it is like a sling shot, but without waving it around like crazy
>>62921203As a Christian I can appreciate this, but we have to admit the jews are lying pieces of shit>Book of Esther
>>62921212Of course, but my point remains.
>>62913810David didn't even have a sling. He had a staff sling or "shepherds sling". Basically a handheld catapult. Goliath even says to him "Do I mean so little to you, boy, that you would come at me with only a stick?" David was a shepherd. Probably spent all day, every day practicing with his sling, using it to hunt while he tended his flock. A sling can produce incredible force on its own but the additional leverage of the staff will allow you to hurl an even heavier stone at an even greater momentum. Goliath's brass helmet wouldn't have done much to protect him against a concussion from a 6oz golf ball sized rock traveling about 400fps into his noggin. David brought a gun to a knife fight and nothing about David's victory over Goliath is miraculous at all. David unironically held a huge advantage in that fight.
>>62921305A "shepherd's sling" IS a regular sling you utter retard. The first mention of staff slings doesn't come until Vegetius, over 1000 years after David is supposed to have lived.
>>62915468Slingers were used alongside bowmen until guns replaced them all. A sling bullet made of lead could kill a man just like an arrow.
>>62916263It’s about the same as a longbowman. They had to build up massive core strength to draw English war bows and started practicing when they were young. Crossbows and guns dramatically changed the amount of time it took to train and equip a soldier.