Can I get a hell yeah
>>63003892wtf I was told there would be rainbows and world peace when assad was removed
>>63003895>>63003907Can you read?
>>63003907You should stay away from Reddit, anon
>>63003892Without boots on the ground I think ISIS or the taliban will still end up in control but I'm fine with that.I'm also fine with them being bombed even if I don't think it'll work.
>>63003911no, they can only seethe, mald and kvetch
>>63003917how substantial are their forces? hts should have gotten enough good shit from turkey and whatever the syrian army left behind to probably curbstomp isis if they try anything funny, especially if they are getting bombed by the US. as far as I know they were reduced to a bunch of dormant cell in the desert to begin with
>>630039345-10,000 active fighters between Iraq/Syria according to the coalition. Tens of thousands more in prisons and camps all over syria
>>63003942those coming from iraq could be carpet bombed at the border much like it happened to iranian reinforcements at the beginning of the insurrectionthose in prison camps may be freed by their buddies but given how the syrian army evaporated on contact I imagine that if they have not attempted this before it's because they simply can't
>>63003950The vast majority of those fighters are in Syria even the Iraqi ones. The badia has been basically lawless since forever and they can just melt in and out of local populations and do attacks
'Merica will have (more) boots on the ground soon to do "Nation Building" aka pro-fag "democracy" run by "Americans" who all just happen to be from Jewish families but say they aren't practicing religious Jews.Syria is new Afghanistan. :)
>>63003917what the fuck would the taliban be doing in syria
>>63003951then I guess it will be a matter of how much and what kind of equipment they will manage to scrounge up. all the good shit will mostly be in the big centers in the west, far away from where isis was reduced to operatefrom what we've seen so fare if you are really commited to not letting them take power, there's little they can do. if fights were still going on between the rebels and the government it would be one thing, but hts seem to have free reign over syria and as long as they don't start shit with the kurds (which admittedly could happen any minute now) I don't see them being caught with their pants down by isis. they're likely going to be a pain though, so hts should try and stay on US's good side so they keep performing airstrikes on isis whenever they rear their ugly head
>>63003978why jihad of course
>>63003983Syria is important for them because of biblical nonsense but it's probably never gonna see real success again. All of the actual ISIS branches with territory and that are expanding are in Africa
>>63003999>Syria is important for them because of biblical nonsenseso it was for the last 5 years, and we've seen how shit the army actually was this whole time. if they could not reclaim it during this time, it's probably because they can'talso they sit this whole insurrection shit out, so I don't see what kind of leverage they'd have over the population to do recruitments compared to the hts who were the face of the toppling of assadmaybe if they got the support of russia out of spite they could manage something, but if they couldn't spare anything to prevent the fall of the regime I don't see how they could aid isis now that their bases are in geopardy
>>63003966Firearm ownership status?
>>63004020They don't need to recruit when they have tens of thousands of little suicide bombers growing up in al-hawl camp. Jihadis constantly have ideological arguments too so if HTS makes concessions they'll try poach disaffected members like they did with the taliban to start the khorasan province
>>63004033guess we'll see. gotta say, isis is soo 2010s though
>>63004041I'll bet money that by the end of the decade one of Mali/Burkina/Niger will have collapsed to IS/Al Qaeda. Will be kino if you're into African war and Allahu snackbar nonsense
>>63003917So you have zero understanding of what's going on, okay.
>>63003934>htsthey're isis, anon. al-q always turns into isis.
>>63004058yeah I am aware of ziggers' talking points
>>63004080>trusting islamic extremistslollmaothese fuckers did 9/11.
>>63003892So now that Assad is gone, all the Syrian refugees can go back where they came from, right?...right?
So who did they bomb this time the rebells, ex leaders, some splinter group assad didnt purge?
>>63004100It is up to the eu governments to round them up and send them back, but we know they are too cucked to do that
>>63004108how many african/arab refugees did the US send back in the last 40 years?
>>63003966russia lost
>>63003978There actually are some Taliban forces, but not in the capacity of the Afghan government
Hmm, Isis, former isis, former al qaeda. Yeah not holding my breathe that things get great there any time soon.Isis was bombed because they were the scariest and least contained last time, and they want them weaker than the competition.All the most effective groups are jihadi radicals.Hst was Al nusra, which was previously al qaeda and previously an isis ally after splitting from al qaeda.This is the remnants of zarqawis group that won.And just as Isis was bombed, they probably will be too once they refuse some western government ultimatum to do various things.The leader currently has a 10 million dollar bounty on his head. Kinda makes traveling or meeting with foriegn leaders hard.
>>63004111how many african/arab refugees reached the US in the last 40 years?
>>63003911Oh I can read alright. Can thou?
>>63004156Between 1967 and 2003 some 757,626 Arabs came to the United immigrants in the United States has already surpassed that of 2017, with the immigrant population increasing from about 2.1 million to more than 2.4 million
>>63003892If anyone is wondering how this will turn out look at Libya.
>>63004100Some will go, others will likely stay due to reluctance of starting anew yet again, really depends on whether or not the whole thing collapses
>>63003895If the already rotting corpses of jihadis doesnt fill you with a sense of peace, I dunno what to tell you...
The irony is 99% of people don't know that ISIS is effectively a Russian militant group. ISIS was, originally, really small minority but Russia offered their Muslims free passage to Syria et al if they went and joined ISIS and wouldn't be punished for their jihadi ways. Result? The most common nationality in ISIS was Russian. Of course, Russia chimed in to help fight ISIS by bombing them because this got rid of two problems; the jihadis they had in their Caucasus areas and made them look reasonable in the Int community. This is why ISIS (Or IS since ISIS doesn't really exist any more) did the terror attack (which everybody has forgotten about lol lmao) as pay back for Russia doing what they did.Anyway my point is that the US bombing ISIS is essentially bombing Russians and Russian backed militants.
>>63004250>muh russiarent free
>>63003892um, i was literally just told testerday that they were based for getting rid of assad. so why are we bombing them now?
>>63004100aha, great joke, fren.
>>63004255Based retard. I know you're on the Kremlin payroll (you're not doing it for FREE are you?) and have to talk about how the people who took down Assad in a few days are 'evil jihadis' and 'Assad was a good boy dindu nuffink didn't do anyfink wrong or persecuted or executed anybody' but even Russia admits they let their extremist Muslims go. Do you think the theatre terror attack was just some random Muslim attack for no reason? Lol, lmao.
>>63004256>>63003895>>63003907Why is this the new shill line? Nobody supported ISIS. ISIS had nothing to do with toppling Assad. Do you not know who ISIS is? Literally everybody fought ISIS.
>>63004260>Belgium, Germany, France, UKGod damn it, Europoors.
>>63003966>Syria is new Afghanistan. :)I mean, russia got humiliated worse than they did in afghanistan, so we'll just have to see if the pattern holds.
>>63004165Immigrants aren't refugees, chucklefuck.
>>63004264>Do you not know who ISIS is? Literally everybody fought ISISthat's what people were calling nusra/hts/etc, and up until yesterday (hell, maybe even earlier today) everyone were still cheering on them calling them "based good boys who just wanted their country back" etc
>>63004264different flavors of jihadist, same shit. point is that under assad they were all contained to their enclaves in the desert, now they will reign free and come en masse to europe to terrorize white christians once again. hope it was worth it to mildly inconvenience russia
>>63004273>that's what people were calling nusra/hts/etcThat's what pro-assad shills were calling them.When you're lying about something, don't do it about shit that happened literally yesterday.
>>63004260>Assad was a good boy dindu nuffink didn't do anyfink wrong or persecuted or executed anybodynobody is claiming this. why do we care about muslims wellbeing in the first place? the only thing we should be worried about is that they are kept at bay
>>63004279list the ways in which HTS's ideology differs from that of al-qaeda and IS
>>63004100Apparently some of them actually are, huh
>>63004283>deflectionThey've been pretty cool with non-muslims so far, no terrorist attacks in the West also.>INB4 BUT THEY"RE TOTALLY GOING TO DO IT SOON™
So did Syrian army proper outside of Homs just...defect/desert almost entirely or what? How did it manage to fold in like a week despite being supposedly dominant for a decade or so? What happened to the Republican Guard? I thought they were supposed to be pro-Assad fanatics or something like that
>>63004295HTS is a proscribed terrorist group throughout the west, on account of their terrorist attacks in syriaso, again, list the ways in which HTS's ideology differs from that of al-qaeda and IS
>A-10sBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD:DDDDDDDDDD
>>63004303Just did.
>>63004303Their actions are very different to IS, and that's what matters.
>>63004313>The group maintained an alliance with the Islamic State of Iraq until 2013>The Islamic State of Iraq initially provided al-Julani with fighters, weapons, and funding to establish the al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria. Al-Julani implemented these plans alongside Islamic State of Iraq >Al-Julani became the "general emir" of al-Nusra when it was officially announced in January 2012. By December of that year, the US Department of State designated Jabhat al-Nusra as a terrorist organization, identifying it as an alias for Al-Qaeda in Iraq (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq).This is the group you're cheering for?
>>63004321I'm laughing at the "multipolar world" getting humiliated again, so far HTS hasn't done anything to earn my enmity.Mocking you isn't an endorsement of the people kicking your ass.
>>63004164I'm really unaware what this is supposed to be implying.Al Qaeda were in power 8 years ago, Assad took power, Assad lost power.What does this have to do with the US and Israel bombing ISIS, again?
>>63004324>>63004321We aren't cheering for the rise of HTS, we kind of don't give a fuck, we are cheering the downfall of the multi-polar world, the Assad regime and the total humiliation of Putin's Russia.
>>63004330This
>>63004321You are speaking as if HTS is the only group there, which they really aren't, its quite a soupIts leader IS leading the pre-interrim government,but give his promises, which granted Taliban also did, and the fact that the new government is less than a week old, we just don't know how this will goOne point for HTS is that it has checks on its power by other half a dozen factions, and also Turkey who is the Oppositions main backer, US is more involved with the Kurds and who knows what they will do now that Assad ran off
>>63004321russia supports Hezbollah, Iran and the Houthis and it also has regular relations with the Taliban.
>>63003966'Merica does not care, they can rot.
>>63004357Bro read half a wikipedia article and thinks he understands everythingI mean, let's be fair here, he didn't read anything than the glossary and the cheat sheet on the right side
>>63004045Africa is sick of fighting over jihad and drugs. They don't want to stop fighting but they would rather fight over things like economic security and re-runs of Friends.
>>63004348Didn't ask.
>>63004156Highest "get the fuck out" rate is somalis and kenyans at least in my area. They even call each other in to ICE.
>/k/ shills for literal terrorists just to stick it up to Russiathis level of contrarian is straight up pathetic
>>63004396>terrorist state that has been propped up by another terrorist state is kicked out by other terrorists and some okay dudesHow is it not a good thing?
>>63003892why did they wait so long to do it? these isis pockets were there for years.
>>63004300Winds of warI sail upon theeMy sword for my countryMy life for the First CitizenUntil pay checks stop showing up.
>>63004396>terroristslegitimate government according to pidorstanian news)))
>>63004399well the situation was stable for the last few years. there was basically peace and the jihadis were kept in check. now they are on the loose again and war is back on the menu. they will inevitably start to fight again and the fighting will create refugees again. these guys will come to my country and make me a stranger in my own country. not exactly good.
>Taliban takes over Afghanistan and poccia immediately recognizes them as a legitimate government>Le good>Assad finally gets his ass served by the eternal roach and poccia immediately recognizes HTS as legitimate government>why would le ebil wect do such destabilizations(( >amerikka lost this time!Assad lovers are completely buck broken.
>>63004417wrong image
>>63004422>jihadis were kept in checkIf they were kept in check how come Assad is in Moscow now? Shouldn't he be keeping jihadis in check? Seems like he wasn't to good at that.
>>63004399>how is letting another breeding ground for ISIS not a bad thing?NAFO troons need to get the fuck off this board
>>63004430because turkey supports the jihadis. they supported isis back then too. they kept their borders open and allowed every jihadi from all over the world to enter isis territory and terrorize the people there. they also bought oil from isis and fought the kurds who were fighting against isis. im not an assad fanboy, he was dictator with all the shit that comes along with that, but im very skeptical that the events in syria will benefit me in any way.these prisoners that they released might "flee" to europe and become my neighbours. i dont want to get beheaded, run over by a truck or exploded.
>>63004439>these prisoners that they released might "flee" to europe and become my neighbours. i dont want to get beheaded, run over by a truck or exploded.Oh man, that's tough. You should petition Assad to get back as soon as possible before some grandpa cut you open.
>>63004437>NAFO troons out of nowhere
>>63004437>>63004439Ah, yes, because Assad did such a good fucking job of keeping a lid on ISIS, truly he was the lone bastion against the horde...
>>63003895>>63003907>thread about syria>instant vatnik seethelike clockwork
>>63004471well the kurds too and arguably the americans. the kurds are getting removed right now and the americans are on the way out so who will keep the jihadis in check now?
>>63004484HTS
>>63004457
>>63004457pallywood-tier
>>63004490hts are jihadis. its literally a terror organization that does literal terror: beheadings, torture, bombings, murder, rape, oppression, basically the same stuff assad did, but with a jihadi undertone.
>>63004484>the americans are on the way outoh, so THAT'S why we're in a thread about the US bombing the shit out of ISIS.
>>63003895>i was told>/k/ told meany post that starts with this phrase should be ignored
>>63004396rds is about as terminal as tds
>>63004505Assad must've been especially bad if the entire country is cheering on these guys for taking over.
>>63004505Source?
>>63004518Sunnis finally get to live in that Islamic State they wanted.
>>63004399I would argue it’s a funny thing more than a good thing.
>>63004506well why are you not bombing the shit out of the jihadis that are massacring the kurds right now? you know the kurds who allied themselves with the usa and fought isis for the usa?
>>63004430>seems like he was good at thatHe never was
>>63004521https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrir_al-Sham
>>63003892
>>63004422>well the situation was stable for the last few yearsA third of the country wasn’t even controlled by Assad for the past decade, fighting was bound to happen again.
>>63004521i remember the video where they filmed themselves gleefully beheading a child with a knife.>>63004518kek you are so easily manipulated, i just have to show you a few videos of some people hollering and you immediately are convinced ITS THE WHOLE COUNTRY EVERYONE EVEN THE CATS AND THE DOGS WOW and notice how you see in these videos barely any women. they are not allowed to leave their house and if, then they have to veil up and have a related male companion at all time. assad was at least secular. now its jihadi theocracy, im not celebrating that.
>>63004527>muh KurdsSince when was Communists dying a bad thing?
>>63004547i dont remember even a single kurdish execution video or hearing anything bad about them. turks keep sperging out about them being terrorists but where is the terror? id say when i look how the turks threaten, bomb and attack the kurds at every oportunity, im not sure who is the real terrorist here.
>>63004547don't you have CEO death to cry about you bootlicker?
>>63004362>The 118th South Sudanese Civil war is fought over whether or not March 23rd is Joey day or Rachel day
>>63004275So that's why there's traffic jams on the Turkish border consisting of Syrians finally returning home.
>>63003907>>63003895ISIS was created by Assad and Russian military intelligence. Its leadership was released from prison by Assad and the Russians supplied FSB screened fighters from Dagestan and Chechnya. For the first year of its operation teh GRI ran listening stations that directed the Syrian air force not to bomb ISIS but only rebels attacking Assad, ISIS never attacked Assads forces at that point only other rebels. Then the Russians directed ISIS to attack Iraq resulting in the capture of Mosul and a major problem for the US proxy in Iraq. It was from the beginning a Russian GRU plan to discredit Assads opponents as brutal terrorists and legitimize his regime. People like John McCain saw that for what it was. Assad was even buying oil from ISIS controlled areas to resell using financial proxies out of Lebanon in their Baath gangster network. If you don;t know about the Kremlin role in setting up ISIS and their hopes that it would flood western Europe with radicalized Islamic terrorists and immigrants and force the world to keep Assad in place get the fuck off this board. There was nothing organic about ISIS or its insane cruelties or the fact it leveraged the same Russian disinformation channels in places like the UK and France. Like weaponized mass immigration into the EU as part of hybrid warfare by Russia the story of ISIS is simply to complex for retards from /pol/. This is the truth on ISIS and always caused panic attacks and a firehose of lies as soon as it was mentioned in /sg/
>>63004606Oh and by the way Assad was instrumental in and critical to Al-Qaeda in Iraq of Abu Musab al-Zarqaw and its bombing campaign
>>63004521good old lindsey graham just called them radical islamists, lol.
>>63004606>>63004613i don't know if bait or a rds shill
>>63003892Hell fucking yeahThat's what we should be doingNone of this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" bollocksBOMB BOTH THE SCUMBAGS
>>63004606>operation the GRUtypoBy the way, the fact that Russia created ISIS to legitimize Assad is not a matter of doubt AT ALL. To knowers the Russian personnel involved and their command structure have been known ever since a GRU listening post in the Golan was taken and its contents analysed. It also helped Russia move radicals from dagestan under FSB handlers. It was pretty much also the point at which WW3 actually started, when Russian controlled ISIS attacked Iraq in 2014 as a diversion from events in Ukraine, ultimately leading to both Assads and Putins downfall.
>>63004619Does the truth burn you like sunlight does you fucking cunt. yes Russia established ISIS and directed its attack on Iraq in 2014. Absolutely. Fact.
>>63004621we've been bombing durkas for over 20 years i want to bomb ziggers instead but noooook :(
>>63004622>Russian controlled ISIS attacked Iraq in 2014 as a diversion from events in Ukraine,
>>63003892Cool, bomb ISIS to help HST (= Nusra = AQ) take over the country, phenomenal deal. At least US troops are guarding the oil wells.
>>63004546>kek you are so easily manipulatedBut not by (you), lmao.
>>63004624>Russia established ISISthen how come isis attacked russia last winter?
>>63004642Ask India, Pakistan or Israel.
>>63004646It was clearly the CIA
>>63003966>your brain on /pol/
>>63004652You sad bastard, what do you think lying here for the dying putin dictatorship accomplishes. ISIS was created by Russia and served its purpose well. It was an abomination in its cruelty and savagery and a real tribute to Assad and Putin. I suppose you think the CIA controlled ISIS and directed its first target to be Iraq just as Putin was getting into attacking Ukraine and annexing Crimea? You are shit on the shoes of humanity and all you kremlin echos and propagandists should be jailed as war criminals. You are shit on the shoes of humanity.
>>63004665Its a brown man outsourced krmelin spammer who thinks America bad beacuse jews not Russia bad because it reduced the middle east to a collection of russian armed dictatorships that enslaved their populations and impoverished them.
>>63004671This is not plebbit I am not adding an /s to my post for retards like you
>>63004642>then how come isis attacked russia last winter?Such shit. This you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqpoDzhf94
Does this mean that US will leave Syria basically reducing our current conflicts from 3 (Syria, Yemen, Somalia) to just 2 now?
>>63004681Suck a bullet. Why the fuck are all you kremlin tourists obsessed with reddit? Who gives a fuck. The important thing is working towards your death.
>>63004690Trump said last week that we shouldn't be in Syria but it really hinges on if Israel still wants us there
>>63004689>This you?I wish..
>>63004694She a batshit crazy dictator worshiping cunt. The actual face and voice of a a tyrants propaganda machine and firehose of lies and I hope Assads victims sue her for every lie until he an heroes.
>>63003892HELL YEAHKILL THE LITTLE KREMLIN PSYCHOS
>>63004700>She a batshit crazy dictator worshiping cunt. The actual face and voice of a a tyrants propaganda machine and firehose of liesI can fix her...
>>63003892what are they bombing? when i look at the isis areas in livemap, there is nothing there, just desert, a few very small settlements, not a single town. do they conduct "Massive" strikes on nothing?
>>63004279>That's what pro-assad shills were calling themHTS are (factually) the successors to AL-Nusra and AQ-Syria. That's not a pro-Assad position.
>>63003917ISIS barely exists anymore.
>>63004788He wasn't calling them AQ though (and they are closer to a splinter faction than a successor), he was calling them ISIS. which is factually incorrect.
>>63004798>which is factually incorrect.Structurally yes but on the ground I fucking doubt it. ISIS is a strain of wahhabism in Sunni Islam. HTS is a strain of wahhabism in Sunni Islam. I bet if we ran through their personnel lists there would be a significant crossover. You gotta remeber, this is warlordism. The grunts rotate between factions as each rises and falls.
>lockheed stock dips another 1%does war not do it for them anymore?
>>63004827Its the uncertainty over Trumps Sec Def pick.
>>63003895Chaos is a ladder
>>63004264>Literally everybody fought ISIS.Including 4chan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXKD_UtpnY
>>63004622>>63004606I believe this
>>63004852Ok
>>63004100>>63004108>>63004200>>63004258Yes. Cope and seethe./sg/ lost/pol/ lostRussia lost/k/ wonAmerica won.
>>63004546>it was real in my mind!
>>63004843Holy dimwit storyteller.
>>63004843Literally an FSB glowop.
>>63004976In hindsight, I wonder if the Russians even actually checked the coordinates, or just shrugged and shot it.
>>63004969Yeah, I just picked the first youtube link with 4chan airstrike on it.Didn't realize it was made by a guy who thinks a /pol/ thread is its own board.
>>63003892When is he gonna get his turn? It's not fair
>>630050685th gens are so boring to look at.
>>63004895we need fact check on this pic
>>63005082why? do you think living in turkey as a refugee is fun?
>>63003917Yes, the Taliban obviously will be in control of Syria. Obviously, of course and specifically the Taliban.
>>63004273So people were being ignorant retards calling groups that aren't ISIS, ISIS. And then being ignorant retards calling them good boys. And your reaction to all this is to be a ignorant retard because others are being ignorant retards, except here, in our /k/?You should get a life.
>>63004588Don't you have you have a head to hit the pavement with while you try to squat on universities in the name of defending Arab baby killers?
>>63004606They didn't create shit.They DID let them loose from Syrian prisons, knowning it was inevitable they would move away from Assad and into Iraq, which was always their biggest objective. Everything else is 100&% correct.
>>63004622>>63004606Do you have sources on this GRU/Assad involvement stuff? I don't really doubt it and I do recall seeing a lot of Chechens in footage from their heyday, but I want something more concrete if you have it.
>>63003892Where is the Assad family?
>>63004100No. Once the """""rebels"""" reach damascus the west will need to take on millions of more refugees.
>>63005068F-22's have performed bombing runs before, in fact, one of Wagners worst losses involved getting bombed by Raptors, along with B-52's, etc.
>>63005615Lmao eat shit russian scum see >>63004895/sg/ lost/pol/ lostRussia lost/k/ wonAmerica won.
>>630039176/10try harder next time, Powell.
>>63004285One of the gastroenterologists I worked with is going back to Syria after being here since 99. Dude was pretty cool.
>>63003892HELL YEAH
>>63004700>The actual face and voice of a a tyrants propaganda machineI don't think she was ever that official or relevant.
>>63004704>I can fix her...She's not actually hot anonThat's a very careful angle and lighting with a lot of make-up.
>>63004093>these fuckers did 9/11.everyone involved in 9/11 i dead
>>63005488He and his family are confirmed in Moscow now.
>>63004588Don't you have to get DRONED by Big Turkish Cock right now, commienigger?
>>63005488all in Mosqueow
>>63004325Thats from the wiki page of the current leader of the moderate rebels.
>>63004260Why are the US and turkish backed rebels led by an ex-ISIS guy then?
>>63006451saying it really isn't confirming it. until he makes a public appearance there is doubt
It’s annoying having to wade through all the cartoon takes while no one notices deeper patterns. For example, why could Biden immediately authorize strikes against these IS fragment nobodies “seizing” empty desert but it’s fucking impossible to address the Houthis? There is no conspiracy, I believe it’s simply the will of the DoD and Biden has nothing to do with it but be brought the hit authorization in a daily meeting for him to stamp or not. Why? The DoD configured itself to attack ISIS in the past, had set up all the bases, logistics, people, etc, and that post became a normal part of the bureaucracy — so therefore when it was time for it to do it’s bit Biden was allowed to sign off on it. Biden did not hustle the operation together. Defsec was not hustling the op together. It was just something the bureaucracy was set up to do, that’s all. In fact, i Biden DIDN’T authorize the strike the DoD would be upset and pressure him I bet. Funny how Biden’s “weakness” disappeared in an instant. The REASON HE DIDN’T USE MILITARY FORCE AGAINST RUSSIA IN 2022 WAS BECAUSE THE DODDIDNOTWANTTOGod it’s hard having a high-IQ and pay attention to this shit.
>>63004300Most sand people are cowards. See: Afghanistan.
>>63004606>weaponized mass immigrationA plan that only works if the EU is willing to let them in>INB4 those were actually Ruzzian spiesMost of those politicians are fighting Russia right now
>>63004622>have been knownProofs?If this was true, it would be everywhere in the newsNATO would not miss the opportunity to milk it for propaganda
>>63006774>A plan that only works if the EU is willing to let them inSince the efforts to deport/refuse entry range in brutality from>beating the shit out of themto>straight up machine gunning them or>leaving people to drown and wash up on our beachesIt's a safe bet that going down that route would have given us shit as well, because most people are not sociopathic teenaged edgelords like those who post on /pol/ and would be disgusted by that. to the point of causing center right governments to fall and outright commies take their place. Putin really did have the EU in a bind with what was a relatively low cost tactic.
>>63004457what was the crime?
>>63006841So the people on this board who say NATO is fighting a crusade to kill all brown people are full of shit
>>63006846Beat Basel Assad in a horse race. No really.
>>63006853I guess they would be, if I'd ever seen a post like that.
>>63006854Horse race ones s a different guy>https://worldcrunch.com/blog/21-years-served-for-winning-horse-race-against-assad-brotherHe was in prison for not bombing civilians in the 80s
>>63003966>Syria is new Afghanistanfor russia. 10+ years wasted. Eat shit vatnig
>>63006896https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/814210/syrias-longest-held-political-prisoner-released-after-43-years-of-detention
>>63006579I came to the conclusion that the Pentagon has to have Mearsheimer types in high places who believe Russia could be flipped into an ally in case of war with China.
>>63003966/sg/ lost/pol/ lostRussia lost/k/ won GUR wonAmerica won
>>63004476These Vatniks are they in the room with you now?
>>63006947The nooks are real, simple as>inb4 akshually they don't have enough nooks to completely wipe out AmericaOne sucessful strike in a city would already be unnaceptable losses They don't think Ukraine is worth the gamble
>>63007064>They don't think Ukraine is worth the gambleBut then we have to be honest with ourselves. None of the Baltic states are worth the gamble either.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-yyaWCgiQThe entire concept of MAD is a gamble, so getting us to fold every time is Russia's tactic.
>>63007064>>63007194Which is exactly why you can't bend or break, even over something seemingly inconsequential. Russia has always asked for an inch and taken a mile. Their foreign policy hinges on the idea that the west has more to lose in a hot war than they do
>>63007194>None of the Baltic states are worth the gamble either.I agreeNothing short of a Red Dawn style invasion (not happening) would be considered a big enough existential threat to justify America starting a nuclear warAnd even then it might be worth trying to drive off the Russians with conventional tactics
>>63006841>We can't separate them>No no don't do what Australia did during COVID or USA did in 1940s>We MUST MIX them with the generationally functional parts of society!>Reproduction numbers going down is a coincidence>Economic crisis is a coincidence>Print more currency for more weapons to create more refugees! Of course!Camps create jobsPrisons create crime networksWhere do the people who felt safe all their own and parents lives supposed to retreat to when their government feigns incompetence against their citizens?
>>63007221>the west has more to lose in a hot war than they doAmerica does not risk a coup or economic collapse if Ukraine failsAmerica has less of a reason to resort to nukes since they have strong conventional forces and don't share a huge land border with the enemyIf Russia did not have nukes, NATO could pull off a conventional invasionIf America did not have nukes, a conventional Russian invasion would probably still fail
>>63007194>>63007221>>63007235Seems like Russia's bluff is getting called more and more.
>>63007332>Seems like Russia's bluff is getting called more and more.This is what people thought the last time America got dragged into a World War>We're just sending weapons to the allies>We're just sending pilots to China>It's just an oil embargo>We're still neutral no need to worry..>Japan attacksTurns out Japan stopped bluffing It all worked out in the end because two shitty nukes are enough to buck break a country and Japan lacked any
>>63007364>This is what people thought the last time America got dragged into a World WarNo it isn't
>>63007364Cool, so russia, a country already burning its long term and short term economic prospects for minor gains of land they nominally already controlled, would probably not even need some shitty nukes.
>>63007364>This is what people thought the last time America got dragged into a World WarVatnik delusion is fucking amazing>Japan, that shit in Manchuria is fucked up, take a chill pill>NO, I RILL NOT TAKE PRILL>Seriously, Japan, chill the fuck out, I'm cutting of your oil>HROW DARE RU! I BOMB YOUHR SHIPS!>Okay, open wide, here comes the airplane!
>>63007472America was going to send pilots to attack Japan but it just happened Japan attacked first (they probably did not even know about the pilots)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers>Operating in 1941–1942, it was composed of pilots from the United States Army Air Corps (USAAC), Navy (USN), and Marine Corps (USMC), and was commanded by Claire Lee Chennault. Their Curtiss P-40B Warhawk aircraft, marked with Chinese colors, flew under American control.>Recruited under President Franklin Roosevelt's authority before Pearl Harbor, their mission was to bomb Japan and defend the Republic of China, but many delays meant the AVG first flew in combat after the US and Japan declared war.Hoping the enemy won't be crazy enough to attack does not work when the enemy is actually crazyIt's a good thing that in this case the crazies did not have nukes
>>63007643>le flying tigers wuz gonna bomb japan an shit
>>63006579>it’s hard having a high-IQ and pay attention to this shit(You) poor dear. It must be such an *unimaginable* burden.
>>63007364The west isn't going to fold every time some belligerent shithole wants to steal something.
it's not fucking fair Axisisters...
>>63005068Its first operational use was in Syria in 2014.
>>63003892At this point I think the Jews and the Kurds should just partition the place.
>>63008406This miserable cunt watched literal children being pulled out of Sendaya prison and never once stopped thinking "Yep, I'm the good guy! I'm on the side of the good guys."The end of this war has been fucking eye opening.
>>63009661or, some jihadi plopped his kid down and recorded it on his phone
>>63004275>now they will reign free and come en masse to europeyou mean the exact opposite?
>>63007194>so getting us to fold every time is Russia's tacticand it's going to work. balts better start developing nukes
>>63004166Too early for an ARAB SPRING.
>>63008184just you watch
>>63004592Ross Day, I kill you!!
>>63004275>and come en masse to europeYou mean the exact thing they were doing beforehand, specifically because of Assad having dragged his country into nearly 14 years of this bullshit? The exact opposite of the thing they're doing right now, with people already pouring back into Syria from abroad?
>>63009719It's way too fucking early to return yet though. It's all rainbows and sunshine now, but the minute they start to debate how covered up the women should be they start to shoot each other.
>>63009677Yes, I always take my three year old to a government prison we're busy liberating in the middle of a shooting war, you daft cunt.
>>63009796plenty of them took their little kids when looting the palace and other government buildings
>>63009829I think you're just making shit up to avoid having to face the truth that Assad was a monster and you supported vile shit. I unironically have more respect for /pol/tards who just come out and say that they don't see arabs as fully human and don't care if they get tortured and murdered than you mealy mouthed little whores. At least they are honest about it.
>>63006315George Bush is still alive???
>>63009858https://youtu.be/shGDmOchriQ?t=129allahu akbar to you, too
>>63009661And no we might get jihadists chopping up children for islam or a US puppet republic castrating them in the name of human rights
>>63008139Yes, they were But Japan did not know and started the war over the oil embargoI'm not discussing whetever Japan was rightI just used it as an example of how ''the anything short of war'' game can lead to being involved in an actual war
>>63009796yes, propaganda is important to any war effort
>>63003892??? The aircraft did? Were they AI controlled? Does the president have no more authority over military assets or what? Seems like the aircraft made the autonomous decision to attack
>>63009858>don't see arabs as fully human and don't care if they get tortured and murderedIs not this basically /k/'s take on Palestine?
>>63009947And we might get something better. There's a chance of that too. Under Assad there was no chance. >>63009903Bit of a different situation, admit it.>>63009963Just admit you're a piece of shit monster who's ok with locking innocent people up in terrible prisons because you hope to be able to do that one day as well. You'll be so much freer.
>>63009974>because you hope to be able to do that one day as well.I don'tI just find prefferable to beheading them for being the wrong religion or locking them up for not wanting to castrate their children
>>63009974reddit-ass posts
>>63009984>Everyone not being a faux-cynical asshole distributing propaganda on behalf of dictators is reddit
>>63009974>Islamic state:(>Islamic state, but claiming not to have any international ambitions::)
>>63009983No, you do. Horseshoe theory is real. Both extreme right and extreme left trade in dehumanization and the desire to subject other people to extreme cruelty.
>>63009984>reddit-ass postsnothing more tedious than some fuckwit who needs to spam the word reddit because they found this place when rthedonand shut down in 2015 and can't shut the fuck up about reddit. kys you were never wanted here
>>63009987enough. now let us hear about how that kid beheaded by al-zenki (part of HTS) totally deserved it.
>>63009996i've been here since 2005
>>63009993Whatever makes you feel better lmao>dehumanization and the desire to subject other people to extreme cruelty.Just your average day on /k/TZD and all that shit
>>63009991>Torturing people for Allah:(>Torturing people for Assad:)
>>63009993why did you rape and murder a young girl in 1992????
>>63010003Russians really aren't human though lol.
>>63009993you sound ;like a spastic who should shut the fuck up and stop boring anons with your off topic political toss and realise your opinions have zero value and you sound tarded. Hating the other is inane to the human condition, welcome to reality. Hatting minorities is fine, its the foundation stone of democracy.
>>63010012I accept your concession
>>63010002so your a pedo as well as being obsessed by fucking reddit? what a worthless cunt
>>63010004quick reality check: syria falling to an islamist revolution is likely to result in more oppression, not less
>>63010016kill the vatnik shills and their families and see what the internet becomes. for fun
>>63010009>no it's (D)ifferent this time!>they REALLY are not human guys!looks like you are the one trading in dehumanization and the desire to subject other people to extreme cruelty.
>>63010018my a pedo? what does that mean?
>>63010021Quick logic check: A chance at change is better than no chance at change.
>>63010004Both will target people for criticizing themBut the first one will also target you for religion or ethnicitySo more torture overall if a islamic state takes over
>>63010023Cant dehumanise the nonhuman.> subject other people to extreme cruelty.I just want Russians to leave Ukraine. That doesn't seem like "extreme cruelty"
>>63010033Actually, being forced to stay in Russia with Russians is extreme cruelty.
>>63010028"maybe the real democracy was the extermination we suffered along the way" -syrians who aren't hardline sunnis, or something
>>63010033>Cant dehumanise the nonhuman.Said every genocidal maniac ever>That doesn't seem like "extreme cruelty"NoThe genocidal TZD spam does though
>>63010037They haven't done it yet.
>>63010039>The genocidal TZD spam does thoughI think there may be a difference between some kids on an an imageboard making edgy jokes and real life secret police torturing people to death.I'm sorry your feelings were hurt though, I guess.
>>63010041fuck knows whether that is true
I'm not Russophobic. I just don't like Russians.
>>63010043Not like you guys won't cheer on real life Israelis killing civilians eitherThe people you accuse of cheering on Assad mostly deny what he did or say the jihadists will be worseYou don't get the ''dead brown children make my smol pp hard!'' lunacy you see from Israeli supporters here
>>63010045Interesting position, you just claimed with absolute certainty the reverse was happening. so you lied, and you know you lied?
>>63010059I'm sorry some edgy kids on an imageboard hurt your feefees. That's probably more important than some sick fuck glowie torturing people to death in the moldy basement of a prison.
>>63010065It is important when those kids want to accuse me of dehumanizing people
>>63009973I mean it is my take on palestine I tell you that much
>>63010078Well i guess you are not bothered about them killing each other in Syria then
>>63010088not one bit. I just wish they killed more russians along the way. alas
>>63010060i didn't, but i can say with near-certainty that they will do it in the near future
>>63009956
>>63010060>In June [2013], Julani's group perpetrated the sectarian Hatla massacre against Shia villagers in the Deir ez-Zor Governorate>In 2014, Nusra "committed unjustified murders and extrajudicial killings in Homs Governorate" including bombing an elementary school in a majority-Alawite neighborhood of Homs that resulted in the death of 54 schoolchildren.[33]>On 10 June 2015 Julani's group perpetrated the Qalb Loze massacre of ethnic Druze in Idlib Governorate.>Prior to the Qalb Loze killings, Nusra had forced hundreds of Druze to convert to Sunni Islam, as well as desecrating their graves and destroying shrines.[37][38] >On 12 May 2016 [...] al-Nusra under al-Julani conducted an assault in "revenge for Aleppo" on the Alawite village of Zara'a in Hama Governorate and massacred its civilian inhabitants.[40]>On 11 March 2017, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, the group under Julani's leadership after the split from al-Qaeda, perpetrated a suicide bombing attack in Damascus that killed 74 and injured 120 mostly Iraqi Shia pilgrims.It goes on.
>>63010190I accept your concession
>>63010008what?
>>63003895>any event whatsoever happens>immediately (((anti-west))) poster shows upConvenient
>>63010211Both sides were doing bad shit to each other back then. Christian militias also perpetrated massacres, which is just how assad liked it. Now they have the chance to move past it if they can.There used to be brutal sectarian massacres between catholics and protestants not so long ago. Should I got out and be angry at catholics because of the St. Bartholomews day massacre?
>>63010489>le both sides Post hands.
>>63010498Sorry for noticing things, I guess.Say how many sunni civilians did Christian Russians kill? Quite a few, right?At some point, people get past sectarianism. Without Russia and Assad perpetually stoking the flames to maintain control, Syria now has the chance to. Whether they do or not is up to them, but at least they have the chance.Why does seeing people free themselves make you seethe so much anyway?
things are getting interesting>Turks shoot down a Reaper>Turks bomb munitions on their way to Kurds>US shoots down a TB2
>>63010039I'm glad you agree genocide is wrong and people who try to carry it out should be killed.
>>63010527>Syria>now under the control of religious extremists>has a chance to end sectarian violence
>>63003966Nah Merica will just let the Turks, the Kurds and the Israelis to easily conquer your weak and pathetic country and take your land. In the mean time, Merica will use you for target practice, as usual.
>>63010489>Should I got out and be angry at catholics because of the St. Bartholomews day massacre?That was a long time ago and all the involved are deadNow, if a time traveling Charles IX became president of America i'd say the protestants would be right to be worried
>>63010527the shura council frowns on your shenanigans
>>63010561i don't think you should be killed for saying that shitit's just annoys me when that shit is /k/'s favorite pastime, but you say i'm the one dehumanizing
>>63010665*it just annoys me
>>63010515is that supposed to scare me or something?i don't get off on people being killed, but the explosion is kind of cool
>>63010574>>63010642Religious extremists who read "Why Nations Fail".
>>63010610They don't understand America. We kill and build. We serve our allies. Kill who they want. We don't control them. They don't pay us too.
>>63004512Both terms are idiotic tactics used to cull any criticism of either. Essentially used by completely brain damaged fucks like you, wastes of sperm.
>>63004417Ooooh, no rubles for that piece of shit today. Imagine if he gets fired for this and sent to Ukraine.
>>63004437Feel free to fuck off, Alenka.
>>63010515Goodness gracious, that's some bavovna right there.
>>63010707Was not that guy from Sudan?
>>63008406It is indeed
>>63010819
>>63009973>Is not this basically /k/'s take on Palestine?No, there are adults here too./k/ isn't monolithic. There's also less than 100% overlap between gun owners, military historians, soldiers and military vehicle fuckers.The most common reaction I see is that both sides are fucked up.
>>63010489>Should I got out and be angry at catholics because of the St. Bartholomews day massacre?I'm a little angry.If my family hadn't had to flee Catholics, I'd be French.
>>63012315Does that ever work outside of your daycare for fat retards on /pol/? >According to my learnings, (insert rabid moskal fantasies here)Have some self respect, look at the fucking state of you.
>>63006846Eating a succulent Kurdish meal
>>63003966
>>63003892For what? Shlomo being an opportunistic backstabber?Do you realize this IDF tantrum will put new Syria straight into Iran sphere, again?
>>63009973>Is not this basically /k/'s take on Palestine?only if you consider the paid shills overrunning the board "/k/"
Syrians will be on their knees begging Assad to come back and rule them, screencap this post
>>63012801If he brings back the money he stole over the years, maybeThen they'll kill him and keep the money ;)
>>63012801Assad's gone man, even if he wanted to go back he's too much of an admission of failure from putin to send him back
>Everyone is bombing weapons in Syria so they don't fall into the wrong hands>Plus anything to do with rocketry, nuclear materials and chemical production because we know how much NK stole from Ukraine>Also terrorists but only the one's with bad PRShouldn't the Russian navy also be sunk? If ISIS stormed Russian facilities they could be a problem for Israel.
>>63003895It is that, around the bomb hitsWhat was hit was ISIS. Otherwise it wouldn't get hit, right?
>>63004527>massacring the kurds right nowThere have been like 2 skirmishes on the outskirts of Manbij.
>>63012791I assumed he was one
>>63010028would you play Russian roulette for a million bucks?at least you have a chance of changing your life
>>63003892Hell yeah you should kill yourself for posting nothing but a picture of a headline.
>Hell yeah brother
>>63008406>US>empire>>63009871kys retard shitter
