AK General /akg/DDR Edition>Thread #2078Old thread here >>64273125
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>>64305795Buy an ar
>>64305822No
WBP uses cast bolts and billet trunnions.
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>>64306263I don't think they use cast bolts. I think that is a false statement. Can you support that statement?They do however use machined from billet trunnions.
>>64305795 what are the parts for this build it looks kinda sex fuckshard
If I have a choice, should I trade in a Saiga 12 to help pay for a VEPR 12?
Dumping my East German content. >>64306364I would personally. VEPR 12 I think has seen a lot more serious use.
>>64306263Nice b8
Not positive, but I think the ISIS guy on the left has an East German AKM. It clearly has a wire folding stock, and the upper handguard is obviously not wood. It could be bakelite, but it has that shiny brown plastic look of a fresh East German upper handguard. I think it is an East German AKM.
Mystery picture. Found this somewhere on /k/Clearly an East German AKM. Would be great if anyone knows the story behind this picture.
Last image. Pretty cool shot.
I wanna cloooone this one, which shawty would be worth using as a base for the project? or should I just buy a gas block and build one of my AKM kits from the ground up as this thang
>>64306492Where was this found? Black furniture? My East German inspired build was built from a brand new Romanian AKM parts kit, real East German furniture, the JMAC reproduction gas block, and an FN CHF CL AKM barrel.
Is a Wum-1 square back receiver worth picking up for $700 or am I better off getting a WASR instead?
>>64306582I would definitely take a WUM-1 over a WASR. Dimples are just one of several reasons.
>>64306582Worth it, I like the wum-1. Then get a wasr later.
>>64306604>>64306829It's a post ban with the bayonet lug not present tho.
Check out this weird AR
>>64306944"modernizing" is so gay and tasteless. Especially when it's obviously just done for muh tactical looks and doesn't even have a sling and a light
Are barrel clamps good? I want a light but I don't want some big ass retarded handguard just for the light.
>>64306898All Wum's are like that from what I've seen, and most New WASR's don't have bayo lugs anyways.You can always add them later on too if you really hate it.
>>64307191Tape
>>64307191hose clamp
>>64305795>MISR-90 been a shelf turd for months nowBro can't catch a break but even $650 is too much for these pieces of shit. Feel kinda bad for the guy with this albatross lmao
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>>64307191Hose clamps from Harbor Freight are your friends if you want to keep your wood handguards but also have a WML.
>>64306263ywnbaw
>>64305822Gayer 15 fanboy spotted, I bet you love to wear shortskirts and thigh highs liberal*smacks youre ass*Guys I am new to AK, bought a draco with plans to sbr it. What drills and shit should I do to be good with it? Are there FSB manual of arms for the AK? And how hard is it to get a DeltaTek from Russia without Customs raping me?
Airshit OKP-7 out for delivery lol. That was quick. Super curious to see how it is. I'll be very surprised and pleased if it seems serviceable, holds zero, and is comparably as durable as say an SRO. >>64306898That is fine IMO>>64307191I personally don't like the idea of the weight and the potential change to already fucked up AK barrel harmonics. I like to try to mount stuff from the handguard. >>64307309Saw that. Shame in a sense.
>>64306977checked
>>64306497uhhh idk somewhere in the Kyber pass area I think but on the afghanistan side I think? I don't remember too well. idk where the pics are from I've had em forever. Even less of an idea whats up with the black furniture. I have some romy AKM kits and brown normal EG furniture but I ain't got that gas block. I'd almost prefer to buy another gun so I dont have to get another AKM kit. I'd like to keep all the ones I got rn as AKMs (I'll still never fucking build them)
>>64306944>telescoping stock>5.56>plastic and aluminum furniture>handguard rails/mlok holes>optic isnt even mounted to the rails that have no other use>unecissarily short sight radius with a full length barrel>meme brake>only accessory is a foregriplike jesus if you want a foregrip just get a dong
>>64308697Does anyone have that pic of the reddit tranny showing off his WBP Jack on his bed? It was full of stuffed animals and various other disgusting troon paraphernalia. Wish I saved it for this whole WBP scandal.
>>64305795You may not like it but this is peak AK
>>64311845Wrong, this is peak AK.
>>64311904>no cleaning rod
Chinese airshit OKP7 Clone arrived. Came with a Russian Manual. Dumping.
Fucking gay faggot cuck shit I can't post a .ru link to the website for the original optic, 4chan is flagging the .ru as spam. Wow.
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More models to come?
Gnarly scattering off of the corner of the housingI'm not sure if this is the result of poor collimation of the LED emitter, or just the wrong choice of material finish for the housing, or a combination of both? I'm not exactly sure how these sorts of LED emitter based dots work. Curious if anyone knows.
Gaffers tape to try to change the specular scattering to more diffuse scattering.
Tape worked decently well.They definitely cheaped out on either the AR anti reflective coatings on the ocular side of the glass window, and or cheaped out on ensuring that the housing itself was minimally reflective. If you look carefully you can clearly see a reflection of the emitter housing. The concentric circles around the reticle. Oof.
Definitely can see the emitter from the front.
>>64312526Overall though the build quality is decent. Machined housing. The steel hood is pretty strong.
Forward facing photoresistor adjusts brightness of the emitter. I'm going to check out the NIR light transmission of the glass here shortly to see how the potential NVG passive performance might be. The bigger issue is potentially that the emitter doesn't dim adequately enough for passive NVG use. Even with the photoresistor completely covered/blocked, and the reticle dimmed as much as possible, it is still pretty bright, visible to the naked eye. This generally is too bright for NVG use. I cracked the optic open to see how feasible it would be to put an additional resistor in series or a switched resistor in the circuit for an NVG mode, the NIR light transmission, and zero retention performance questions still outstanding.
A switched resistor tuned for ambient illumination at night would be cool.
Simple spring loaded 2-axis mechanism.
Honestly not terrible for ~$165 shipped. Has potential. Will report passive NVG performance here shortly.
>>64312512The reflection from the corner isn't bad outside in daylight. Mine has held zero so far with 100 rounds, though I feel like I will break it at some point. Make sure you tighten all the screws before you zero it, my mount came crooked and I had to adjust it as well.
>>64312556Cowitnessing with the side rail version is sick
>>64312541If that's just hot glued in place, a single drop of isopropyl alcohol will loosen that right up. Then drop a potentiometer (rheostat?) in place of it and glue that in or throw it in the hole the photoresistor was in and tighten the nut, then bam, you have a knob you can adjust as needed. In theory. If the LED doesn't just turn off at a certain resistance.
Hmm super curious. So in complete pitch black (closet, all house lights off), the photoresistor resistance appears to become high enough such that the emitter is emitting near zero light, so little my 2200 FOM white phos NVG can't pick anything up. No what is bizarre to me is that when I cover the photoresistor with my finger, making contact with it with my skin, it appears to somehow affect the photoresistor either by direct thermal conduction or I guess perhaps ~10um black body heat radiation, but the photoresistor resistance drops and the emitter begins to emit enough to see both with the naked eye in the pitch black closet, and with the NVG of course. If I block the photoresistor with tape, the emitter goes dark completely, both in the closet with all lights off, and out in the living room, all lights on. Main issue is that with all lights off, in low light, even in the back yard, there is so little light hitting the photoresistor that the emitter turns of completely. My previous observation that it wasn't getting dim enough when covered was mistaken because I wasn't actually simulating a "dark" environment by covering the photoresistor with my finger, due to this unknown thermal/radiative effect. Funny. Anyway, the NIR light transmission in fantastic, the optic disappears entirely. If it holds zero and is robust enough and I like it enough, I might try to bypass the photoresistor entirely and or swap it out for a by hand adjustable rheostat. >>64312564Yeah exactly good call, a potentiometer (rheostat) in place of the photoresistor might be a good way to make this optic legitimately one of the best passive NVG optics out there, especially for the price. So the issue is that it appears the LED is turning off completely in NVG low light situations. >>64312556>held zero so far with 100 roundsWhat platform what caliber?
>>64312560Ooh that is cool
>>64312588>What platform what caliber?Bulgy AK-74 5.45x39
>>64312608JellyNice rifle. Waiting on my piece of shit PSA to come back from warranty so I can sell it and work on other projects.
Thanks for all the pics, I'll post some of mine as well. I got mine from Twitter not eBay for what it's worth.
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>>64312978Excellent picture. This IMO shows that the anti reflective AR coating (that should be highly reflective at ~525nm wavelength to reflect the green emitted light) on the back ocular side of the window is either absent or not done very well.
Gonna need to see some more testing on this thing, if it survives some slapping and 12 gauge maybe, I want to throw this on my Zpap UF.
>>64312495Oh shit, I really fucking need a cheap IP87 clone.
Do you guys shoot corrosive ammo? I used to try to seek out Barnaul non-corrosive but that shit is getting rare and expensive. I wanna make another bulk order but I'm not sure what is good nowadays. What do you guys recommend?
>>64313383Yep, just clean it after shooting.
>>64313383Anything that is cheap.Teleammo has been cheapest, but it's not usually corrosive.
>>64313386How long do you have to clean it before it starts to get crusty? My barrel is chrome lined but I still wouldn't want all the other moving parts to rust. Like could I go out shooting with friends then clean it the next day?>>64313399I've seen Tela on ammoseek and wondered about the quality. Nowadays it looks like Sterling and Igman are the cheapest.
>>64313415That day, don't fuck around with it, and you have to clean the bolt, bolt carrier, gas tube, and try and clean and oil up the gas block insides. Don't forget the muzzle device too! Ballistol was my go to for cleaning it up.Tela is usually cheapest, but is just tula I swear. It's good enough.Sterling is for sure turkish, shoots decent, most is not corrosive. Not sure on igman.
>>64313422Damn that's some nasty shit. I may try to just be patient and nab some non-co on black friday.
>>64313428That's just my cleaning regimin, I've had my Tantal rust in 3 hours, (7n6).But most of the stuff we are talking about is not corrosive.
>>64311768WASR sisters...
>>64313380The NOVUS Precision dot is excellent IMO. Build quality is solid, good brightness settings day and night, good NIR light transmission for NVG use, excellent dot crispness. Well worth the cost honestly. >>64313383>>64313386I don't shoot corrosive ammo. The extra time spent cleaning is not worth it to me.
>>64313495Too bad it's no longer in production. :/
>>64313510They just had a restock within the last month?
>>64313518Really? Everything I'm finding about this optic says it's discontinued. I guess I'll await it, I've only heard good things about it.
>>64313519On August 6th a guy on AKfiles made a forum post in the optics section linking the NOVUS site PDS-1 page saying that they're back in stock. Right now that page says they're out of stock. I know for sure prior to August 6th they were out of stock, because I was looking for one and ended up snagging one on ebay being sold by an individual. It is a shame this OKP-7 isn't just a tiny bit better. Another $50 or even $100 to put the optic at $200-$250 IMO would be well worth it if it had a better visible spectrum AR coating on the ocular side of the window, and had a better tuned photoresistor to provide correct illumination even at nighttime/low light for NVG use. Recoil surviveability and zero retention notwithstanding.
>>64313531Can I just improve the coating myself? Fuck the Night stuff for me at least.
>>64313541Not easily as far as I know. Optical coatings are relatively high tech all things considered, especially those with strong wavelength dependence such as low reflectivity across the visible spectrum but a notch in that behavior with high reflectivity just at the emitter wavelength.
Will my card info get rekt if I order off atlantic?
>>64313555No, that's where I ordered my Jack from
What optic are you guys running? I've been using irons since I bought the rifle but I'd like to get something for slightly longer distances.
>>64313579I like my primary arms micro prism, but there's no magnification. How far out are you trying to shoot and with what gun/cartridge/ammo?
>>64313669WBP JackBarnaul now, other surplus later50-100 yards nothing too crazy
>>64313438oh nonono
I am the anon who said they were gonna get a WBP trunnion and have metallurgical testing done on it. I just got off the phone with a place local to me. The testing is far too expensive for how little I care. I don't own a WBP, I own a Beryl. I was mainly going to have the test done to shut everyone the fuck up. But it is far cheaper to just hide faggots who wont shut up about them being milled or forged. So if someone else wants to pick up the torch go for it. The 5.45 trunnions on AoA are still on sale.
>>64313708Sell your piece of billet shit jack and then worry about shooting past 100 yards retard >>64314138Imagine being this ass hurt your rifle is a cope piece of billet shit that WBP cope is so rent free in your head you go out of your way to do this, allow me to save you some money: WBP will NEVER be a military spec AK pattern rifle and to say otherwise shows your room temp IQ
>>64314138How much did they want?
>>64314221Like $250-350. Other places may charge different.
>>64314248>>64314221>>64314138You're retarded. We have video/photographic evidence the front trunnions are machined from billet stock.
Quick question, I want an AK pattern rifle just because I want one. No interest in collecting or buying something that will retain value, its purely a toy. Is there anything wrong with the offerings from PSA? I know their AR rifles have QC issues, and I know AR's so I can inspect my own rifle. But I know nothing of AK's so I wouldnt even know what to look for or pay attention to.
>>64314138>>64314202>>64314221>>64314248We have photographic evidence as well as WBP THEMSELVES saying they machine their front trunnions from billet. You can see the exact same billet machinig in this post from years back, as you can see in the screenshot from the 2025 factory tour, minus the ears. You're retarded wasting your time getting quotes for metallurgical testing when this evidence was already posted LAST thread. Complete tranny tier delusion of reality. WBP uses machined from billet front trunnions. From that and other arguments already covered, it stands to reason that they use machined from billet carriers and bolts. We don't even have to mention the nitride barrels, or the fact that the company is a tiny workshop peddling crap to reddit american gunsoomers.
Picture of an unfinished true forged front trunnion from a real AK factory. >>64314507I'm confused. You said you want a rifle, but then you said you want a toy? You do know guns aren't toys right? Like guns kill people, are designed to kill people. That is their purpose. Killing.
>>64311563Not everyone is a soulfaggot
>>64305795EG is best AK
>>64305822I own an AK, AR and FAL
>>64314507Ger a WASR don't mess with wbp or psa.
>>64314545Not having retardedly awful taste doesn't make you a soulfaggot
>>64313708Ignore minion poster, he's not me (>>64313669). I don't know what the deal is with WBP, but for 50 to 100 yd, generally speaking, you can get away with no magnification. But if you want magnification, get something modern on a proper RS Regulate mount. Ultimately it's up to you how much you want to spend. The barnaul ammo is very consistent and good, I use it to ring steel at 200 yd regularly. When you start getting into surplus, just make sure to clean your shit properly if it's corrosive ammo. Have fun, anon.
>>64314534this is from 2017, and they said their Bolts are milled from bars? Aren't their bolts and bolt carriers forged now? How much has changed since then?
>>64314202>no, you can't find out the truth, just cope!>meanwhile zero(0) WBP trunnion failures>apparently FB used billet trunnions in the past
Not gonna lie, ordered the plum grip on accident, but I think it looks neat.
>>64314749You’re a genuine retard. >deerrrr da no trunnion failure so dat mean it good!”Tell me dumbass, how many rounds do you think WBP trannies like yourself put through your rifle? Definitely less than 5k a year. We know from numerous tests that a MILITARY spec AK can get to 90k-100k rounds before the trunnion inevitably cracks, that is with a hot dye HAMMER FORGED trunnion. Your billet piece of shit will not last over even 10k rounds, the past 3 BOLT failures which aren’t even the most pressure bearing component in the rifle FAILED AT 4 THOUSAND ROUNDS. And you wanna sit here and cope about trunnions? Lol. Lmao even.
>>64314878Sorry I misspoke, their bolts break as early as 180 rounds :)
>>64314878You would assume that the most pressure bearing components would fail first, though, right?The fact that it wasn't the most pressure bearing component that broke first would suggest a lemon bolt, rather than an inherent issue in the design, right?
>>64314507WASR
M90!
>>64314507Jack
>>64314749>replying to the anti WBP schizo cmon man act like youve been here before
>>64305795How many Warsaw Pact 5.56 "could have been"-s were out there, /k/?
Is this the right thread to ask about the Zastava M91 since it's just a long AK?I mostly want one to fulfill the SVD-shaped hole in my heart on a poorer-fag's budget.
>>64315593yeah 'sfine
>>64314813It's a good color but you need more of it so it doesn't look out of place. Maybe swap the stub for something plum?
>>64313518Is that the low backpressure B&T can or the normal version?
>>64314499>>64314534Okay cool. Thanks for the information, faggot.
>>64315593I'd consider one but they're really expensive for essentially a nicer PSL. That said, if you got nice polymer furniture for it you'd have a nice modern SVD lookalike.Alternatively you can find M76 or Tabuk furniture for it which both look great too.
>>64315593>>64316047Tabuk furniture
>>64316061And M76
>>64314726It is from 2017, and yet this screenshot in this post:>>64314499is from a 2025 factory tour. As we can see, in 2025 they're using the same machined from billet front trunnions that they admitted to using themselves back in 2017. Back in 2017 in that post they say, as you point out, that their bolts and carriers are machined from billet stock bars. Picture related is WBP claiming that they're using all "forged" trunnions, bolts, and carriers, but per the screenshot from the 2025 factory tour we know that they are NOT using forged trunnions, but are using machined from billet trunnions. We combine all of the above evidence and factual observation with the knowledge that WBP is a tiny workshop of ~80 people, compared to the THOUSANDS of employees that make up the workforce in real AK factories (Bulgaria Circle 10 Arsenal, ROMARM CUGIR Circle 21 Factory, FB Radom Poland Circle 11 factory etc), WBP has ZERO military contracts and mainly just peddles their crap to reddit gunsoomers... and true forging require more investment capital and cost to produce than machining from billet with a CNC...And guess what is the rational conclusion...WBP "guns" are made with machined from billet components in ALL of the major load, impact, and heat cycling places where real military AKs make use of true forged parts. >>64314749>in the past>literally posting screenshots from 2025 factory tour showing machined from billet front trunnionsThey're still using machined from billet front trunnions, as they admitted to back in 2017, and they're likely still using machined from billet bolts and carriers, AS THEY ADMITTED TO back in 2017. >trunnion failuresYou do realize that a trunnion is less likely to randomly explode than it is to just lose headspace...And you do realize that an AK losing headspace results in... out of battery detonations and poor accuracy? Now google: "WBP poor accuracy" and "WBP out of battery detonation" and see what you get.
>>64314878>Lol. Lmao even.Sauvage, anon, sauvage. >>64315102>designYou mean metallurgy, retard. You don't even know the linguistic and functional difference between what is metallurgy, and what is design. Per your shit argument, while the bolt might be subject to less pressure, its DESIGN is such that it has less material and is less supported, and thus is liable to break when subjected to less stress as compared to a different part which is subjected to perhaps more stress, but by design is more capable of withstanding that stress. A better counter argument though is that the issues with machined from billet stock are just more likely to present themselves in a smaller freely floating part like the bolt than they are in a fixed supported larger and thicker part like a trunnion, relative pressure applied even taken into account. >>64315593Build an M76. Way cooler and more historical to the conflict. >>64315700Not the reduced back pressure one. Original PrintX Mini 5.56K Insanely light, and smol. All inconel. >>64315745Of course broihv.
>>64316047There's a guy I found who builds wood furniture, chill guy>>64316092Never built a firearm, I have no tools and no ability to get them (rentcuck life)Are they expensive? How much does it cost to make one? How pricey is the ammo? Sorry to bombard with questions, just almost no one irl to talk guns with
>>64316311You would pay a builder to do it. But a M76 kit build project is not the place for someone new to guns to start. No offense. Just get a WASR and throw some real romanian furniture on it and a dot and hit the range.
>>64316063I really wish Riley had put the same barrel length on the RAK 308 to match the M76. I would have gotten one by now.
>>64316065>>64314534>>64314499>Real mil AKs use forged trunnions>Earlier post mentions FB Radom would frequently use both forged or milled trunnions depending on production times and needs with no issuesSo using a milled trunnion from billet is fine if done properly. Also they are absolutely massaging the term of forging. Probably what they are doing is counting the forging the piece of billet is getting before they mill it out...so it is 'forged' at some point. But not in the way basically anyone means when it comes to saying a trunnion is forged.
>Learn there are two versions of the PDS-1>Military reticle and the circle dot oneCOME ON.
>>64317106>Also they are absolutely massaging the term of forgingThis is my biggest gripe with WBP. Technically speaking, billet is cast by definition, so they're probably telling they say that the bar stock they're using is forged, but that's such a sneaky and dishonest way to market it when everyone assumes this >>64314540 when they hear forging.
>>64317375Honestly it doesn't shock me all that much. AK makers have long been told about the autistic nature of American gun owners that want things to high specs despite putting 2-3 mags through the rifle every other year. So they massage the truth since it literally doesn't matter except for like the 5-6 people in the US that probably put any meaningful amount of ammo through an AK per year and they probably aren't using a WBP, more than likely using an old Arsenal or like a Galil ACE or something anyhow.
>>64317375What's really irritating about this whole WBP thing for me is that we know for a fact that they have used some forged components at some points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oauYjMsf3Ak At 3:47, you can see that it's a forging that's being machined.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KKZLBU2j8 again, at 3:50, you can see the carrier being forged.So we know that at least some of their shit is forged or was at some point, and we know that at least some of their stuff is billet. As for what's what, who knows.
>>64313383Surplus yugo crates are gtg. Only other thing id recommend is the Telaammo, if you want the cheapest steel case. if you take the surplus yugo rout, its brass so indoor ranges wont be a cunt about it. Just clean your gun after shooting. Don"t be a retard.
>>64316896Romanian wood in good condition is hard to find. I am looking at WBP tranny wood but AOA is sold out now.
>>64317106>so using a miled trunnion from billet is fineNo, machined from billet trunnions are not fine, and are not true to OG Soviet AKM spec, and we can understand from the metallurgy that the end result is an inferior weaker part. >they are absolutely massaging the term of forgingYes exactly, and relying on uneducated consumers to hope it slips through the cracks in their smooth fucking brains. >mentions FB radom would frequently use both forged and milled trunnionsBe more careful with your wording. As far as I'm aware FB Radom has never used machined from billet trunnions. FB Radom which is the Circle 11 state factory used true forged components. >Probably what they are doing is counting the forging the piece of billet is getting before they mill it out...so it is 'forged' at some pointTerrible fucking sentence on your part, but yes, they're using the fact that billet bar stock is made in a forging process to allow them to claim that their machined from billet stock parts are "forged", but that is bullshit, because anyone that actually knows anything about this stuff understands those are two completely different parts manufacturing processes, with physically different outcomes. >but not in the way basically anyone means when it comes to saying a trunnion is forgedExactly. >>64317375>billet is cast by definitionI might be wrong but I was pretty sure ALL billet bar stock by definition was forged into the bar stock that it is? It is sneaky and dishonest regardless.
>>64317794>>64317794>At 3:47, you can see that it is a forging that is being machinedI respectfully disagree. If you're talking about the shot were we're looking into the CNC as it is running, the coolant spraying on the right hand side of the part and the left hand side being that relatively large diameter cylindrical stock, I do not see a forged carrier being finish machined. I just see a carrier in the process of being machined. To be fair it COULD be a forged carrier being finish machined, but it equally could be a machined from cylindrical billet being machined. From the footage you linked at the timestamp you cited, I am of the opinion we just can't tell. >again, at 3:50 you can see the carrier being forgedFuck bro this is getting tiresome I already responded to this footage and this timestamp last thread. I hope to god you're not the same anon that posted this footage last thread and that you just didn't read or see my response? I'm copy pasting my response from last thread to that exact footage and timestamp:>Okay I absolutely agree that at ~3:50 in the video you linked we are seeing bolt carriers being forged, true forgings. I hate to go down this line of argumentation, but that forging shop, are we sure that is in WBP? In the factory tour video done by TFBTV more recently that forging area is missing entirely from the footage. Also looking at the footage in the video you linked, that forging area appears to be the same size if not larger than the entire WBP factory as shown in the more recent TFBTV video. >So we know that at least some of their shit is forged or was at some point, and we know that at least some of their stuff is billet. As for what's what, who knows.>their shitI would argue all the times that WBP has made use of true forged components, these parts either came from subcontractors, or were overruns from FB Radom. WBP as we now know is all in house, and that almost certainly means at this point is all machined from billet.
>>64318490WBP makes perfect wood furniture
>>64318490>tranny woodLol. Bro Romanian wood isn't too hard to find. Just dig. Gunbroker, AKoptions, DesertFoxSales, AKfiles, Tacswap, on and on.
>>64318656holy fucking shit just cut some WBP parts in half already and have a metallurgist look at it for gods sake
>>64318671holy fucking shit just look at the fucking pictures that everyone is posting you can see that the trunnion is clearly machined from a billet bar stock. Retard. WBP themselves literally said they use machined from billet bar stock trunnions, bolts, AND carriers in the screenshot'd AKfiles post here:>>64314534You ignoring all this smoking gun evidence and just repeating the "Go get a metallurgy test" bullshit is unironically classic leftist tranny disinfo shit.
>>64318671More fucking zoomed in pictures for your willfully blind tranny eyes. Clearly machined from billet bar stock. Not a real AK.
>>64318671Here is a true forged trunnion pre-finish machining. See the difference? Granted in this case it is a fucking PSA, but at least PSA is attempting to do it right, and is attempting to market based off of real forgings. WBP is just playing post modernist tranny tier games mixing up words and destroying meaning, literally. You can graft a slightly phallic flesh bag made from thigh skin onto your fucking belly, but that doesn't make you a man. Not by a long shot.
The WPB Fox/Jack is still the highest quality AKM-pattern rifle ever imported. Saiga trannies kys.
This is the anon who has been seething for almost a month now over WBP looks like
>>64318876real
>>64318690>>64318696>>64318711you still don't even know if their bolts and carriers are made, but now youre saying it's all machined billet. You don't know anything just like everyone else. Go chop a bolt carrier in half.
>>64318876nah man its got BILLET parts which many dont know is even WORSE than CAST PARTS. I guarantee that it will BLOW UP at 5,001 rounds... this is why ROB SKI passed his WBP at 5,000 rounds. Hell, i bet they don't even use SWELLNECK RIVETS, which is the most IMPORTANT PRESSURE BEARING part of EVERY AK
>>64318930"maybe if i engage with the schizo he will realize im right and go away"
>>64318943Nice bait. You know nothing of firearms design or mechanical engineering. And for that matter, the history of WBP since their first imports to Atlantic around 2018. You think this is the first time this has been fleshed out?
>>64318952i remember when everyone including lemonfagrade said Zastava's had metallurgy issues
>64318952Damn, that's crazyYou should post the last time this was fleshed out, and really blow us the fuck out
Even if WBPs were real AKs, made with true forged parts and CHF CL barrels, they still have had ZERO military or police contracts, have been selected ZERO times by any serious end user, are coming from a commercial civilian market workshop, NOT a real military factory. Even if they were real rifles, they would be lame fucking rifles. >>64318930>you still don't even know if their bolts and carriers are madeFirst of all, we do know that they are made, because they clearly are being made. Learn to fucking write. Secondly we do know from WBP themselves that they said that their bolts and bolt carriers are made from billet stock. I'll quote it here because your retarded ass is on a fucking phone or some shit and too stupid to read the post in the screenshot'd image from AKfiles that has been posted like 3 times now:"Our bolts and bolt carriers are also machined from forged steel bars"Machined from forged steel bars unoquivocally means machined from billet stock. What is a billet stock? It is forged bar, NOT in the shape of a part, but in the shape of the stock bar. Same as the fucking block of steel that they post a picture of in their post that is machined into the MACHINED FROM BILLET front trunnion. This post:>>64314534>You don't know anything just like everyone elseActually YOU don't know anything, UNLIKE everyone else, that can read, and use their fucking eyes, and is tethered to reality. >>64318943>billet is worst than castAh yes let's just say word mumbo jumbo like "a man can be a woman" so we can deconstruct all meaning for our benefit. >>64318975I never said or believed Zastava's had metallurgy issues. >>64319063See this post retard:>>64314534
Extra comfy rn
Is it normal for AKs to get really hot quickly? I'm shooting at most a round a second and my WASR is cooking the wood after 2 mags. Shot 6 mags over 30 minutes and I practically had to grab the body of the last magazine with my left hand since the receiver was sucking up the heat. Maybe I'm missing something but I've shot 150 rounds before in similar times out of other rifles and not had them turn into a hot brick.
>>64315580Quite a few. More countries have made AKs in 5.56 than 5.45
>namefag buys parts kit guns and PSAs>but WBP rifles are fake toys because they're not made by a factory with military contractsreminder to ignore all namefags
>>64319450Gloves+magwell grip
What's a fair price for 30rd 84s magazines?
