Classic edition Monthly pistol qual, fabulous prizes to be won!Printable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpg Course of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpg post in the thread, attach this month's archive code "hg-qual-9-25" to help the collage maker find entriesGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik Previous: >>64301314
>>64314204>gentle boop to the forehead
Some new Olight Osight models dropped I know not when. They are calledOsight X - $230, RMR, big lens, permanent battery as original ("57K hours" or """228K hours""" [lowest setting]) plus circle-dot and "new" "OAL" alloyOsight S - $250, Shield, small lens, enclosed, permanent battery, circle-dot, very low deck, OAL. Half the battery life of X ("22K hours" ["""88K hours mode 3 dot only"""])Osight SE - $200, Shield, small lens, enclosed, side load 1620 ("57K hours" ["""75K hours mode 3 dot only"""]), circle-dot, very low deckOsight C - $180, RMR, slightly oversize lens, side load 1632 ("""100K hours""" [at lowest setting]), circle-dot, low deckOsight K - $160, Shield, small lens, side load 1620 ("""63K hours""" [mode 3]), 6 MOA dot onlyLooks like they learned a lesson and relented to industry norms like replaceable batteries, selectable reticles and a enclosed housings. They added a "new" alloy they're calling OAL which they claim is stronger than 7075 aluminium. They all have auto sleep/wake and all claim to have some level of waterproofness.The K, C and SE look promising given their pricing, one vendor has the Osight C listed for $115 wtf? I don't trust the brand per se, but they have essentially a (new?) Vortex-tier "no-nonsense" transferable lifetime warranty which is very impressive for cheap optics. Holosun and Trijicon have very short (2-3 year) limited warranties. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
>>64314214Gentle as a pistol can be during a round of .50 BMG, kek
>>64314224Good, hope this Chinese garbage makes Trijijew make a optic with tech from fucking 2015
>>64314224Still not buying chink shit Burt. I don’t care what blackmail/leverage they have on you
>>64314256I heard the CCP gave him an unlimited use lifetime pass to every Chinese Buffet in America.
>>64314263Then took compromising photos of him stuffing his face at the buffet
>>64314256You'll change your tune when you try to warranty your RMR Heich Dee in 3 years
Big extractor gang, Gaston was a cuck
Tisas ASF repro edition or cheaper Tisas normal govt 1911?
>>64314204theres no way his wrist is okay after this right
>>64314416He's gonna feel it in 10-20 years
>>64314396the small extractor is literally better, because the extractor spring/plunger can be made much larger for a longer deflection ratiothat's why the P226 guys got butthurt when Sig moved to the long extractor to save money
shieeeeeet
>>64314396Yeah well who needs a big extractor. It gets in the way it gets dirty and anyway my ammo says it's how you use it
>>64314151So the Beretta 20x doesn't have flush mags like the older versions, and the mags they are making are polymer, with complaints from some buyers about feed lips breaking. It looks like some folks online are making/selling steel mags that are 20x compatible, but they still have the extender. I have never modified a handgun or it's accessories beyond just staining wood grips to a more suitable color - should I wait for flush steel mags to hit the market? Or would someone decently handy be able to take one of the steel mags out there that has the little pinky grip, and remove that part without ruining it outright? The new mags do have a capacity of 8 versus the previous 7, and that pinky grip may be how - but most folks say you should under-load the mags by one anyways for best performance on a bobcat. Is this worth going to a gunsmith about? Anons that have experience tinkering on handguns, please advise, and post pics of your work if you want.
>>64314396How many iterations of striker handgun did Ruger get through before committing a straight up Gen 3 Glock come clone. There was SR, American, did anything else quietly fail that no one noticed?
>>64314224I'm probably in the minority but i liked the rechargeable optic in theory for a bottom of the barrel range optic. But now their prices are way too high and with the track record of the original I'll pass.
>>64314000>I shoot Winchester Red Box as my favorite, makes nice round holes with its flat nose.And it feeds well in a 1911? My biggest problem was always that classic 3 point stub jam.
>>64314415What's the price difference?
>>64314528security 9
>>64314281What make is that FS? Looks tough.
>>64314556Has fed flawlessly in my Wilson Combats, Nighthawk, and Colt/Tisas. And also my 2011 build
Are these things a meme? I feel like they are.
>>64314621Yes.
>>64314621Sort of a meme, they only work on government length slides and may not work for a particular gun. They reduce slide travel length and may introduce malfunctions. Many of the polymer ones will break apart and can possibly interfere with cycling. Some people swear by metal either aluminum or soft steel ones. If you are feeling sharp recoil forces then something is wrong with the gun and this is not the solution. A flat bottom firing pin stop and hammer spring weight tuning is more effective
>>64314563$85
>Its another "delivery delayed until 8pm for the thing I actually need" episodeI just want my new holster dammit.
>>64314224>They added a "new" alloy they're calling OAL which they claim is stronger than 7075 aluminiumsuper aruminum best quarity
>>64314736It's literally chinesium, but it could actually be good, depends on what they put in there. Since China does all metallurgy now, it's not hard to imagine they would know what alloy is cheapest, I mean, best for this application.
I want to buy a FDE RMR type 2 but not 500 dollars want to buy it
>>64314702That's not nothing. I guess it depends on how much the A1 esthetics make to you. If you aren't married to the A1 vibe, then get whichever one has the best sights or the cheaper one. It's too bad they stopped making the Stakeout. That was one I had my eye.
>>64314151>Move over Old man!
>>64315146
All my semiauto handguns are striker fired. I would like something hammer-fired because I assume, if its anything like my revolver, the trigger feel is worlds better. I would prefer 9mm because it's cheap and I already have ammo. Where should I start looking?
>>64315297Beretta 92 triggers can be tuned up for very cheap 1911 is the king of single action autos CZs, Sigs, can have good triggers but I think take more work to get there than a Beretta The 92X RDO triggers vary but some of them are very good out of the box and don’t need further improvement
>>64315297P226, USP 9mm, Berretta 92fs - those are all SA/DA thoughfor just SA I guess you could look into like a browning hi-power or a cz75 or something
>>64315308https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1126891325>>64315312The USP DA trigger is perhaps the most expensive terrible trigger there is
>>64315312USP is a poor rec given the shitty trigger
>>64315308>>64315312I am completely okay with SA/DA, it seems like a straight upgrade to SA with little drawbacks
>>64315324DA/SA triggers tend to have worse SA triggers than an actual SAO gun. But DA/SA guns can have good SA pulls, like Berettas, CZs, Sig. the USP can have a good SA pull with the match kit but the DA pull will be terrible unless you shell out for a 400 dollar trigger job from Lazy Wolf and it might still be bad but you buyer’s remorse yourself into praising it to trick other people into doing it.
If I’m an urban youth with a dedicated car gat will old nigga bullets work betta than holla points for punching through car doors in a drive by?
>>64315338So for best feel go straight SA, got it.
>>64315348Listen up little bro unc's gonna give ya that street knowledge. Now them poolese have these bullets that punch through car doors and waste dudes all the time. Ask for the Spear hollowpoints ammo at the White people gun store, don't smoke up before you go.
>>64314151I am satisfied with my Beretta brand Beretta pistol. I put some WC thin grips on, and now it's basically perfect. I'm going to shoot it again tomorrow.
>>64315365There is a few “SAO” guns that are actually just DA/SA guns without DA pulls, like the Beretta 92 SAO guns and I think the Sig equivalents. They just disable the DA pull but the rest of the trigger geometry is the same. Actually the Beretta SAO conversion is just a trigger that prevents the DA pull from resetting, you can just grind it off to reactivate DA. I’m a little biased for Beretta. LTT’s stuff is top notch and has no equal (or alternative).
>>64315378I like the WC grips profile and texture. I’m also a sucker for grip medallions.
>>64315297P226/P229 you wouldn't regret it.Beretta 92 and S&W 5906 as an also ran.
>>64315414>LTT’s stuff is top notchlol. lmao.>>64315414>and has no equal (or alternative)That part's true.
Feels like I've got what some suit in Bladerunner would carry.
>>64315027Why not a C L E A R Romeo-RS for $200(Made in the Unided Stades of Amexica)
>>64315414Not gonna lie, besides an M9 and M9A4, I have seriously considered an LTT 92 as well
>>64314528I actually liked the SR9. Not enough to buy one tbf, but it felt nice and svelte, and had similar specs to anything else around then.
>>64315312>>64315324>>64315338>>64315414We talking true SA, manually cock hammer every time? Or just SA for first shot then slide sets the hammer for each next shot? I dont know my pasta guns.
>>64315319Mine has an excellent trigger.Reminds me of that time I had always heard how overrated the USP was. I went to the gun shop and the clerk let me hold one and dry fire it. He could literally see the light brighten in my eye when I pulled the trigger and felt the ergonomics. It was everything I had always hoped it to be.
>>64315482DA/SA automatics always cock the hammer after the first shot with the slide. DAO versions of these guns exist where it lowers the hammer each shot so it’s the same DA pull every time. >>64315509I had looked like a family member died when I felt the DA pull of a USP for the first time.
>>64315509You poor thing. When you get more experience under your belt you'll learn what a good trigger is.
>>64315466I was going to take advantage of my 20% off discount on Sig electro optics and buy one but then found out Sig removed that perk of being a Sig Connect member
How does barrel length affect barrel link length, and what # should I choose? I've google-fu'd this question for fucking months but I can't find anything conclusive or widely accepted. All I want is tight lockup on a 7-inch slide. I imagine that would require a somewhat shorter link since the increased length of the barrel means a more acute angle difference between lockup and unlocking, but that may just be me atop Mt. Dunning-Kruger.
>>64315640How jewish. I noticed that my RS came with exactly TWO screws of each thread type, and they are highly proprietary (unique shoulder, unique shank, unique length). No spares like everyone else includes.
>>64315711Have you tried emailing Fusion Firearms? I have no idea, some of the reading I read said never change link size from 3 (GI, standard) but that was for normal length barrels
>>64314151I really want to get a 1911 as my first handgun. But I live in California and Glocks are getting banned next year, should I just buy a glock?
>>64315810>should I just buy a glock?if it's the gen5 glock 19 then yes1911 is more like a 2nd or 3rd handgun after you're already proficient with a proper carry piece
>>643158101911s are incredibly complicated since not because of their age of design but because there are so many different models and features, different makes, different styles But I will boil it down for you. Just buy a 5 inch 1911, government model, you want a modern style one with a beavertail, trigger guard undercut, and modern sights (Novak sights). The new Kimber Next Gen 1911 looks good and has a external extractor which solves one of the biggest issues with 1911s
>>64315509You have to remember, most people who comment negatively about most guns have either never fired the guns they are trashing or have some kind of weird need to justify whatever brand loyalty they have. The USP trigger is way better than the stock Glock trigger and the stock Glock trigger is alright. On a side note, why are people OK carrying a striker gun with a 4lb trigger but freak out about carrying a DA/SA gun with a 4lb trigger with the hammer back? I'm the same way and I can't explain it.
>>64315856A glock trigger is not fully cocked
>>64315855Also only buy a .45 or 9mm one.
>>64315856The length of pull is a safety factor, a 4 pound SA pull has a short pull so it’s not as safe as a 4 pound DA pull.
Where is P220 anon? I found this for $450. What do? I have always wanted one, but now that one is available for a decent price, I'm on the fence.
>>64315810Buy the gun you want. If that's a 1911 buy a 1911. If it's a specific 1911 buy that and don't cheap out on a base model or shitty brand cause it's what you can afford. Changing minor things later will cost more than just buying the thing you actually wanted. Unless it's grips those are easy.
Niggaz, which gat should I run the qual with? >1895 Nagant>Chinese Tokarev>.44 snubby
>>64315586>DAO versions of these guns exist where it lowers the hammer each shot so it’s the same DA pull every time.Why? That sounds fucking retarded, why wouldn't you want the hammer to cock after each shot?
>>64315896>$450
>>64315899>Chinese Tokarev
>>64315900One reason that I can think of, and not a particularly compelling one, is that, during the 1990s and early 2000s when many police agencies were transitioning from revolvers to semi automatics they wanted the DOA triggers because they mimicked the DAO training they doing with the revolvers. This line of discussion had me looking at this thing earlier. I once rented one in something like 2003. I didn't like it at all. Especially not next to the P226, BUL45 and USP.All that being said, there is/was an ex-cop anon here that loves the SIG DAK, which is a little different.
>>64315900You can hand it to a knuckle dragger who has only used DA revolvers their entire police career and they won’t have to be potty trained again.
>>64315938>>64315939That logic checks out but I hope I never own one.
>>64315973The Beretta one’s take out the hammer sear so the DA pull is quite nice, but yeah makes little sense for anyone to actually use one
This thread seems a lot slower than when I was here about 8 months ago and I am noticing that some of the more... controversial... posters don't seem to be around.
>>64316021They’re around
>>64315378Brother
>>64315461Sick. I might get something like that for OWB range use
>>64314521Bumping my own inquiries here, surely some of you /hg/ anons take your shit to the work bench and have advice, or at least have a better idea than I do about what to expect in the way of third party accessories over the next year or so
>>64316100What's that holster on the bottom there
>>64316091Based Friekorps enjoyer. I haven't read that particular book yet, but I have read pic related and it was wild as hell. They just set up machine guns any time there was any kind of problem. >Protest?Set up the machine guns.>Building occupied?Set up the machine guns.>Occupying a building?Set up the machine guns.
I miss ppanon and weednigger
That nigga that was on here asking Burt about Mk23s made me want one but I can barely conceal my 1911 and I didn't realize they're so fucking big
>>64316131https://roninleatherholstersllc.com/Cms/index.php/Aegis-holstersWith brown elephant trim
>>64316169Fuck off retard
>>64316176I never realized how much of the profile was the astronaut glove trigger guard.
>>64316144>I haven't read that particular book yetI cannot recommend it highly enough. Aside from being one the few first-hand accounts of the Freikorps available in print today, Ernst Von Salomon was a talented author, and was able to convey his experiences in a way that reads more like a novel than a dry memoir.
>>64316183Thanks brother
>>64316259It’s thicker overall than a kydex holster, the short length of the px4 compact makes it very top floppy so it’d be impossible to conceal this well without using it in an enigma rig for me. I’ll have to adjust my set up but so far it seems more comfortable than the full-size kydex px4 holster I was using
>>64314204qrd?
I want to create a G17L version of the AMT Hardballer with laser sight from Terminator. Does anyone know of a long square/rectangle profile laser sight? Ideally I don't want to 3D print a shell for a round laser.
>>64316214So it's just one guy's memoirs? That's pretty cool. I look forward to reading it. That book I posted is more of a general history covering lots of different Freikorps units and actions. It's pretty funny because in like the last 10 pages its like, oh and Hitler was there at the very end, too.It's actually pretty crazy how little there is about the interwar peorid.
>>64316274I'm having trouble with the RMR HD on it, but if it was irons only the holster is perfect so far.
>>64316277Use the catalog.
>>64314224Gonna buy a bunch of them and put them on my Berettas in the following order: SE, C, K, S. Just want to make sure I give this company a shot.>>64314300This would be funny if it wasn't the OSight that was having major issues on launch. At least the RMR HD holds zero lol.>>64314479Nice
>>64316277.50 BMG 1911https://youtu.be/hZ1orxXV2Gs
Finally, over 5 months (162 days) after I sent in THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED TWELVE rounds of Federal Champion .22 LR ammunition ammo for being unreliable in a number of firearms, Federal shipped back an exchanged quantity of American Eagle Suppressor ammonation. It's more expensive so they equitably sent back less. I can't wait to try someThanks again anon for the suggestion!
>>64316416I much prefer their copper plated ammo. My fingers feel gross with lead tip ammo. I had experience with their blue box champion stuff and it worked great.
>>64316209I guess they wanted it to be easy to use with bigass winter gloves?
>open gun safe to move some stuff around. Pick up 10mm to briefly fingerfuck… rack slide out of habit first… live round pops out..No mag in gun. Can’t remember checking clear last time I shot it. Fuck man… Don’t skip safety steps. Also make sure your safety steps overlap in case you genuinely screw up….
>>64316302A lot of contemporary books on the interwar period were banned by the US occupation post-WWII, and post-war historians largely seemed to prefer the 'And then one day for no reason at all' narrative.
>>64315186They did? Shame. I bought one as my only 1911 and the ergo upgrades over the standard GI make it so worth. Dead nuts accurate & reliable for me too though I haven't tried shooting JHP through it yet.
>>64316556Ive got snap caps in the new revolver to get use to it. I worried Im going to get used to snap caps being in it. I probably should just put them in when needed and remove when not.
>>64316390birettos aint need no optics, moron
>>64316704
>>64316658Im less worried about screwing up like that with a revolver since I always pull the empty casings out.. honestly I just ordered a pack of chamber flags for my semi autos since I apparently could use the extra level of safety of “put flag in when done firing”. I’m glad I didn’t add myself to the nd list, but it was still a failure on my part, and that’s gotta be a no failure kind of thing..
>>64316717i wish they had a non railed 92 compact with a non-bobbed hammer.
>>64314151even with all the taxes and shipping and FFL fees, $300 total for an LCP Max is probably a deal I should jump on, right?
>>64316764That's pretty bad they're like $200. Do you know how to use the internet?https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676137534
>>64316786No actually, I was a cuck that only used 2 sites previously. Ty.
Tomorrow i will qualify with the Grorious Chinee CCP Norinco Tokarev. I might also do it with the 1895 and with the "Dog" as well. I'll post my best set of groups for the collage. Also, I didn't realize when i bought it that the Tokarev only holds 8+1 rounds in the stock mag. It's weird because i have a different Tokarev, with a different mag, that has a higher capacity. The mags seem interchangeable. Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and try expanding a few of these 8 round mags, because i cannot find any bigger size mags online. Although i know they exist, because i literally have one. I will also blogpost a review of the Chinese Norinco Tokarev.>how much did i pay for it$300 shekels>is it rusty Only a tiny bit on the inside. I'll find out how bad it is when i strip it this weekend. >initial remarks I can't seem to cock the hammer one handed, which bothers me seeing as how i have a 1 handed shooting style. Also it has a lanyard loop that i don't need, which I plan to grind down, and it has no safety except the trigger safety. The man at the store said if i wanted, i could swap in an original non Chinese trigger, and then it will have no safety whatsoever. Not sure if i should do this.
>>64316764>>64316786Buddy i saw a Ruger 9mm Security for like $175 when i was buying my commie gun. >>64316105>>64314521I always say it doesn't hurt to try. What's the worst case scenario? You ruin a magazine? Who cares. Sure, some faggots here might make fun of you, because they think it makes them cool. In the end, you can't be afraid to break shit. I'm personally gonna try to expand my Tokarev mags over the next month or so, so I'll be happy to share my progress with you and chat about magazine mods.>should you take it to a gunsmithNo reason not to, if you can spare the shekels>how to remove that partDo you think grinding it down with a Dremel could work? Dremels are really based; it's a must-have tool for gunsmiths.
>>64315348FMJ do work betta for lighting up a cat's whip frfr. Aim @ dat motor son and dey car is deder than Biggie Pac. Youll's clap em thru they's doors when you squeeze and bust on dat bitch ass niqqa done cut you off. Nigga dents up yo Dodge Charga, smoke a nigga right ther, who dey think they is fw yo whip? Blast squeeze first ask questions last my nigguh
>>64315297Chinese Norinco 9mm Tokarev is based, although most people here would say 1911 or Beretta 92
>>64315027>>64315414>crop the bottom of the pic
I'm looking for a holster for my Glock 43X. I don't own any holsters and have never done concealed carry. It's not something I feel like doing often, but there are some occasions when I want to do it. A coworker (I work in a sporting goods store) suggested the Valkrie by Havok Holsters.
I wonder if the fact my firing pin channel looks like it was machined by a drunk has anything to do with the light strike issues I have had with my Body Guard 2.0. I tried to disassemble it tonight to inspect the firing pin itself but apparently I need a sight pusher to get the slide disassembled as it requires taking the rear sight off.First week working in Detroit and getting off work around 2am, had to reverse and take a different street tonight due to the Cadillac with giant rims in front of me suddenly driving to the middle of the street and stopping blocking everything off while a couple guys just happened to be milling around that exact spot.At least the shawarma is good>>64315466It has such a gameboy colour aethetic to it that I want it. Does it come in Atomic Purple?
>>64317554>my firing pin channel looks like it was machined by a drunkHey, I worked hard on that firing pin
>>64316470drysuit/wetsuit gloves (seals) i think.
>>64314569Acta Non Verba Anthropoid M500
>>64315297Any pistol from any of the major DA/SA brands can be modified with aftermarket parts to feel “good”. But for stock triggers, Sig and Beretta have the best DA/SA in the P226/P229 and 92. Sig has a slightly better DA (a little smoother overall) and Beretta has a slightly better SA (a little more crisp). I’d say they’re tied. Third would be CZ 75. Stock double action is gritty and stacks, SA is worse than Sig and Beretta. Dead last would be HK triggers. Ugly heavy gritty double action, single action feels mid.
>>64317936The HK is the best of the three simply because it’s cool and fun and nice and ahhhhh I think I have a crush teehee
>>64315896$450 is good but they continued to use the W. Germany rollmark for a few years after reunification you just have to know the codes.
>>64315896>what do>I'm on the fenceDo what thou wilst, anon. Seriously, trust your judgement.
>>64317936>Dead last would be HK triggers.My USP45 trigger is actually really smooth, and has a nice SA reset. The DA pull on my 45c is a little rough but the SA is fine. HK does tend to use heavy hammer springs to ensure reliable primer ignition.
>>64317782Giants actually. Nephilim. Now when they attack…with guns we wont know what hit us.
>>64317304I have a werkz m6 and I like it.
Thinking about buying my first Beretta, besides a Nano I had for two months 13 years ago. I want a 92 and am leaning towards Centurion. Would /hgg/ recommend I go with an LTT Elite (from Langdon), 92x, or something else?
>>64317936They’re all so functionally similar I don’t see how anyone could make a pissing contest out it.
>>64316577>Oi very! >You're hurting me!Many such cases.>>64316628>They did? Yeah, I think so. It's not on their website and it's all sold out on guns.deals. I'm pissed. It was such an obviously great gun that I thought they would keep making it for a while. I wanted to get a Colt brand Colt first, which I just did, then get the Stakeout for The Shadow memes. I already have the hat and coat, kek.
>>64317022Dremel is what I had in mind, but I have options there - a buddy of mine is a woodworker/tinkerer with a nice shop, and near my office there is this co-op workshop space with a forge, wood shop, garage, etc etc all under one roof that I can get a membership for, and some friends already pay in to work on projects there. If these third party steel mags are legit, I would only be spending $12 each, so like you said, not a big deal if I bust a couple. I suspect the pinky grip may be made out of polymer though, even on the steel mags, so I am gonna cross my fingers that it isn't so on account of having more experience working with metal. I have never taken anything to a gunsmith, and I expect it isn't cheap, but what do those guys typically charge per labor hour, before factoring in cost of parts/materials? Or maybe that's a broad spectrum based on experience. I will probably start by polishing the inside of the barrel and chamber, maybe using a light abrasive too - no extractor and rimfire ammo means a big problem with these can be brass hugging the inside of the barrel and failing to eject, especially when it's dirty, so a hair more room to breath at the base may help. Then I will buy the factory wood grips they have and maybe sand them down to slightly slim down the profile, maybe even give me the space to carve in something personalized - thinking about maybe a quote from Bagheera in the spirit of Beretta's kitty cat theme for these small caliber guns - and then stain them a glossy black. I think the frame is probably solid and better constructed than before, but those polymer mags make my eyes roll... I guess I will just have to see what my options are and update /hg/ when I have some progress made.
Is 45acp worth getting into? I was considering a 1911 but I'm hesitant to stock another caliber.
>>64318570depends on what your definition of "worth it" is. only you know the answer to this.
>>64317554>firing pin channelIt might be a bur from broaching the breach face. >need a sight pusher to get the slide disassembledThat is a retarded design choice.>At least the shawarma is good Pic related.
>>64318570It's like 30-40cpr, not that expensive. I bought a Tisas 1911 for like $260 and it's one of my favorite guns to break out even if the slide bites the shit out of my hands.
>>64318407>Would /hgg/ recommend I go with an LTT EliteThis is what the hgg Beretta hive mind will tell you to buy. If you don't buy it, they will shill you all the LTT upgrades or you will be killed in da streetz.The reality is that you should get whatever you think is the neatest and then get the LTT trigger. It is legitimately a massive upgrade from the basic 92 trigger, which is worse than the basic USP trigger if we're being honest. Most of the other stuff falls easily under diminishing returns, but it's your Barbie and you can put whatever hat and shoes you want on her.
>>64314416It's me Wrist got sprained a little but its already a lot better now a week later
>>64318597>worse than a USP triggerYou’re fucking retarded and lying
>>6431840792X RDO comes with a trigger group similar to what Langdon’s kit isYou can buy LTT Elites for cheap (675 or so) but they don’t have Langdon’s internals as they’re the base guns before Langdon modifies them. So you get the M9A1 style frame and then can just add the Langdon parts
>>64318570I think it is, it's a big bullet. 45, is a large diameter, while that means magazine will hold less of them, I like how much empty space there is in the barrel for gas to expand into, the starting pressure is low, and there is a lot of volume, even the short barrel is close to optimal, that makes me happy. It's a good result to see if a 9mm hollow point expands to .45 but the .45 starts there as a ball. It does cost more, it can't be helped - bullets are almost twice the weight, it uses large primers, brass and complete ammo itself is in less demand, so more expensive.
>>64317782Neither wet nor drysuit gloves are as bulky as extreme winter gloves.
>>64314224>ShieldIf they use actual shield footprint and not absolutely incompatible shit like holosun, this is pretty good news. It's not like there's a good sight with proper shield footprint.
>>64318654Romeo X
>>64318610What have I got to gain by lying? I don't even own any H&K guns. Just go to the gun store and see for yourself.
>>64316756Like this?
>>64316390>SE, C, K, Skeks
I'm thinking of dropping on a big mailbox enclosed dot, and I was considering the Acro P2, but I've heard all sorts of mixed things about it, and for 600 bucks, i don;t wanna hear mixed. Are the alleged issues with the nitrogen purging and the glass fogging up fixed?Because if it's still a lemon, then I'm considering the following, in order of price point>Steiner MPS>C&H Duty>Swampfox Kraken
>>64319177Consider the Cylee bull for $249. It's fuck off huge and personally survived getting flung off my PDP and crashing into the cement floor of the range I was at because I was too excited to shoot with it and didn't use a torque wrench or loctite.
I'm gonna buy a glock 17 and nobody can stop me
What is the best .22 revolver that retails under $300?
>>64319263I AM THE GLOCK-BLOCKER AND I WILL STOP YOU FROM PURCHASING A SINGLE GLOCK 17Please do not.
>>64319324why not
>really wanted a .40 S&W gun for a long time now because I bought a lot of .40 S&W during the scamdemic>also was always curious about the M&P line>also a two-tonefag>decided that I would prefer a police trade in since those are generally cheap>watched Lycorecoil for the first time earlier this year>really liked how Takina had a two tone pistol>It's a M&P9 longslide>see M&P40 police trade in >it's two tone>total price of $272.03>buy itI am satisfied, and boy I better be because that's the 4th fucking gun in a row
>>64319385Ok I yield, you may make your purchase.
>>64319263Ok cool, what kind?I have a classic and it's fine as it is but I'd say just go for a Gen 5
>>64317304There's plenty of options out there but personally I think t-rex arms or craft holsters are G2G>inb4 shilling
>>64319385NTA bur because glonks are trash. They were good 35 years ago but havent changed shit. Yet they and their fanboys still act like they are cutting edge. They are hideous, easily limp wristable, and are the basic bitch of striker guns. Their dominat clientele is the shittiest group of people on the planet and you will be judged by association. There are numerous options that are better on many levels for similar pricing. Plus they are gonna get buttfucked over their switch issue for which they absolutely should be held accountable. Fuck glonk and fuck your shitty opinion.
>>64316297You’d probably be better off trying to find a particularly well made laser pointer and building a mount for it. If’n you do this, you’ll get more bang for your buck with a red laser.
>>64319453>the basic bitch of striker gunsFor the average normalfag who doesn't know jack shit about guns, that's the best thing about Glocks
>>64319468>>64319453ya I'm new to guns and it won't be my only one if I do enjoy going to the range etc.
>>64319478Well for me, your first gun will just be your first.My first gun was a Ruger Mark III 22/45 and boy was I quick to find to find a replacement for it when I could (and I did, with a Mark IV Hunter)Now it's just fated to eventually be the Safe Empress, the Grandmother of my entire collection
>>64319177Aimpoint is aware of all issues and just replaces the dot with a brand new one if you have any of those. I like my P2
>>64319229I've been thinking about it. It's not enclosed, but I know they're rock solid.>>64319519If they have good customer service, all well and good, but I'd rather not have to find out how good, if that makes sense.
Hg-qual-9-25Have one shot unaccounted for.See no evidence of missing the paper on the backboard.Scored 243 without counting the 6 and the unaccounted for round.It can only be in one of the two masses of shots in the upper right imo. Perhaps the collage editor can straighten it out.
Hg-qual-9-25290(USPanon)
>>64319531>>64319534Will update later today
>>64319120did it come like that, or did you just replace the hammer? that's how all the compacts should look.
>>64319556That’s the stock hammer. Bobbed hammers are only on the LTT elite and compact carry 2
>>64319577then i might need to look into getting a Compact later if they're available in cali wali. i was already planning to get a bruniton biretto.
>>64319531Neat gun, anon. Care to say a little about it. All I can tell is it's a Ruger in .22. I really want a Ruger in .22 that can take a suppressor.
>>64316091Gay nazi music and gay nazi book. You're not my brother.
>>64319534That's a really neat gun, anon. Can you tell me a little about it? I see it's a Ruger .22 and I want something similar that can take a can. You seem to get pretty good grouping with it.
>>64319696Silencershop has a 22/45 with shortened bull barrel for a can.
>>64319643Aaaaw, anon. You both have faggy obsolete guns and faggy obsolete guns. You guys should get together and suck eachother off.
>>64319696It’s a Ruger MKII 22/45 stainless. Think it was made in 1998.
>>64319706This is pretty kino.
>>64319549This might help (30 red lines total)
>>64319453It's time to accept the fact that the Glock was a complete success.
Glock = AR15It's simple, reliable and has a ton of aftermarket support
>>64319453>easily limp wristableI have purposely tried to limp wrist my two glocks and they still run. Even letting my gf with the wrist strength of a child that can't even open a pickle jar shoot them and they still just work.
>>64319901Glock seems more like an ak to me. It has that ruggedness and lack of refinement to it. Ar15 would be more like a 2011 or something.
>>64319421I wish the M&P series looked like this.Those simple and symmetric lines look so much better. Not a fan of the fish scales and other weird little unnecessary serrations and “artistic flair” on the actual M&P. Great gun though.
>>64319982I'd estimate them by gunsmithing complexity, 1911 is closer to AK with all the filing and milling and fitting, and pressing barrel into trunion. AR15 and Glock are easier than PC building or lego. Parts just fit together, they are all standard, a little baby with 3D printer, a screwdriver, and a US postal address can easily build a glock or an AR.
>>64319556Like other anon said, that's completely stock. You might have to look at the used market, because I don't think they still produce them in this config.
>>64314479erm /hg/ doesn't like fully semi auto, they should be illegal, they're too uncontrollable, you shouldn't be doing that
>>64319766Would you like to volunteer to be shot 15 times by my obsolete gun
>>64319643>>64320098YOU FUCKIN FAGGOT MOTHERFUCKER, FUCK YOU BITCH!!
>>64320106learn how to fix the metadata on your walkman noob
Does anyone here actually shoot .327 Federal Magnum? What's the appeal over .357 Magnum?
>>64320228>Does anyone here actually shoot .327 Federal Magnum? No>What's the appeal over .357 Magnum?6 rounds in J-frame
>>64320228Have not ever shot it or even seen one but it allows for an extra round in the gun. They tend to make them super light so .327 magnum full power rounds recoil harshly, I guess so would a .357 magnum
>>64320237The power gap between 327 and 357 is about is wide as 357 to 44
>>64320248Maybe I'm just a retard but going by bbti I really don't see the reason to go with a .44 Magnum over a .357 if the barrel is under 6 inches. Some actual boomer at my local range is always convincing me to buy and carry a .44 Magnum because "You're a young guy" but I feel like hot .357 should be just as fine
Looking to pick up a Glock 30 for CCW and just to have around the house. Any Glock 30 anons that carry have any thoughts?
>>64320315My buddy has a Glock 30S and I haven't heard any issues with it.
>>64320466I got really excited when I saw 10 after 9mm but then was dissapointed
>>64320466>Lawyer writingFuck off
>>64320533shut up antisemite
Are 2011's like the stacato considered reliable enough for duty usage?
If it was up to you, which handgun would you pick to arm 1) your local police department(s), 2) local militia and 3) nation's military?You must pick three different handguns and brands
>>64320586I wouldn't say out of the box but after proven with some practice/range use then sure. The 2011 is pretty reliable as long as that particular specimen is built right
>>64320385>>64320315Glock 30S is a direct upgrade, everything is the same except slide is thinner, so naturally it's discontinued.
>>64320687I want a .45 to carry and I'm trying to decide between the 30S or the HK45c. I'm trying to convince my buddy to sell me his 30S as he hasn't shot it since COVID
>>64320586Some of the Feds with bigger budgets have been seen with higher end 2011s like the Stacc so I would say its good for Civ use.
>>64320642>1) m9a4>2) m&p 2.0>3) glock 17
>>64320642Ruger lcp for all 3 for the lulz
Is the course of fire you guys are doing good for a newfag or is there a drill I should practice?
>>64320770The course of fire in the OP is a very basic test, 200/300 is the passing score, but is difficult to score in the 290s. I see it something to regularly test as a newfag to see improvement. It's quite difficult as a new shooter, try doing it at half the distances since 25 yards with irons is hard IMO.
I made a poor drawing of my beretta today. Yes I know the proportions/shading/perspective/linework are awful
>>64320822you're right, that's pretty ass
>>64320822Reminds me of something I would have seen on deviantart 15 years ago mixed in with a gallery of poorly drawn anime girls.
>>64320822I'm not going to post it but mine was about 10% better when I had to take a art class for school
>>64320822Very nice, Anon. Keep working on your art.
didn't even know this mode of failure was possible
>>64321037forgot pic
>>64316091based
does anyone else hate the grip/trigger on the glock 43x? i even replaced the trigger shoe with a johhny glock one but it doesn't really make a difference. i find the side of my finger ends up pulling on the trigger and the recoil starts to hurt my finger after a few mags. don't have this issue with my glock 19
I have practically 0 handgun experience but I got a Px4.The safety lever on this thing fucking sucks. I probably should've just gotten the compact carry version but I don't make good decisions.
>>64321090Well you didnt get a glock.
>>64321090As a first firearm, you made a fine choice. Just make sure you get a nice stockpile of ammo, a nice belt and holster and some damn training.
>>64321090You can just ignore it. Or make it decocker only for free.
>>64320822>I made a poor drawing of my beretta today.better than anything I've ever drawn
>>64321069>i even replaced the trigger shoe with a johhny glock oneHis shaved OEM one or a vex shoe? It's a well known issue the OEM trigger shoe on the 43x causes blisters. Buy an overwatch precision DAT or polyDAT and never have that problem again.
>>64321090The safety lever can be converted to decocker only by popping out the ball bearing in it. That makes it a little bit better
>>64321069With glock, every aftermarket part makes you lose Glock karma points, and when you lose too much, it will start to malfunction. IMO, accept stock or run a different gun.
>>64321256i believe it's just the shaved oem one. i just looked up the precision DAT and that's interesting, a flat trigger. i might have to give that a shot thanks for the recommendation
>>64321421That's only when you start changing major components or fucking with spring weights.>>64321437The overwatch and apex shoes are the only ones many departments allow you to use. Both of them are very proven.
>>64314204weak grip bitch
>>64321455departments as in police? i didnt realize cops were allowed to bring in their own guns, let alone a modified one
>>64321471Depends on the department and your rank. In mine, uniformed guys have to use the department-issued pistol but plainclothes can pick from a list. Also, no revolvers unless it's backup and no p320s period.
I've seen local officers with all sorts of stuff like SLR magwells and taran tactical mag extensions seems like they can change certain things I guess
>>64321421This holds true for literally every gun not just glonks, every single time you buy an aftermarket part you need to do your research to make sure it isn't a piece of shit and shoot a lot with it before carrying to make sure everything is fine.
>>64320770>drill I should practice?"Dry fire" at the target before loading any live ammunition to expose flinch or sway that affects your sight alignment. Rectify it by smoothing your trigger pull, correcting your stance or psych checking yourself. If you're going to attempt the qualifier without an optic or hi vis, your best bet is to front sight focust. current worst shooter in /hg/ but still scored above the minimum of 200
Beretta sisters, thoughts?https://youtu.be/k-1vrRuWHJs
>>64318558>you hope it's not polymerPolymer just means a Dremel will grind it down much easier
>>64319453>SAAAAR YOU MUST INSTALL GUN UPDATE >SAAAAAARI sneed on you, vile sped! Curse thee!
>>64321609you already posted that
>>64321711Will I be able to get a smooth finish when I'm done? Genuine question, have no experience working on plastics. With steel I know my options, and could even possibly weld if I wanna try something funky. But! This is all unfamiliar territory.
>>64319311>best .22 revolver that retails under $300?They don't exist if you want a good 22lr revolver you are paying double that or more. What you can get for sub 300 are half pot metal disposable guns like the heritage rough riders. Slightly more expensive half pot metal gun like chippa or Ruger wrangler. Then there's the naa mini revolvers. Naa are actually made of real metal with decent machining but they suck to use. Being tiny means they are ass to hold.
>>64314566Security 9 is hammer fired DAO
>>64321835Thanks, I was getting that impression but wondering if anyone knew about something I didn't. Got a bunch of .22 now, like wheelguns, but don't wanna drop that kinda cash on it.
>>64320696>I want a .45 to carry and I'm trying to decide between the 30S or the HK45c.I love my 45C and carry it daily to work. It's definitely more in the mid-size Glock category size wise though, so if you're looking for something especially compact the 30s is probably going to be what you want.
>>64321783>Will I be able to get a smooth finish when I'm done?There are ways you can polish plastic. Check this Dremel trick outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT_Q9Xzha0
>>64319311The other anon is correct in saying that there aren't many good sub-$300 options out there. Though you can often find Ruger Bearcats in the $400 range.
>>64320533I know right, why are they expecting 92 owners to know how to read? That's discriminatory
>>64319643RudeI just wanted to be frens with the only other person who owns a Sony audio player.
>>64319643>>64322033There are no actual nazis on this glownigger shithole
>>64314224If it holds zero I'll get one, if quite literally none of them do I'll forever call you a retard for even uttering osights name after their first staffing run of a product failure
>>64321850Yeah, incredibly cool gunIt's basically a big LCP, which is a good thinglooking at parts diagrams of ruger pistols is fun, and the security 380 in particular is a favorite
>>64321751No I didn't.
>>64316091>>64322033Faggot.>>64319643Based.
how do hammerless revolvers shoot?
>>64322742They're striker fired.
>>64322682>>64321609 >>64317759 >>64304363
>>64322780
>>64322800I didn't post those.
>>64322811and I didn't post this snippet
Do compensators mess with reliability on the m9 like they do with Glocks?
>>64323138Any amount of mass you add to a tuned mass-on-spring system is going to affect it. Some of them are tuned with a surplus of slide energy to ensure the slide cycles even with crappy ammo, some of them are tuned to try and manage the felt recoil better (glocks).
>>64321608Who taught you this nonsense? Dry firing is to understand where the trigger breaks, familiarity. It will do fuck all for flinch, recoil anticipation. To fix flinch, shoving forward, excess finger squeezing, sympathetic squeezing, trigger jerk there are many drills.One. Just shoot at a blank paper target. Roughly aim at the center and fire. Do this and give not one fuck where you hit. Run through a few boxes of ammo this way. Concern yourself with mag charges, trigger familiarity. Then buy some snap caps, dummy rounds. Get someone if you can to load them randomly in your magazines. Or do it yourself and mix the mags up. Switch to a very easy target at a short distance. Aim squeeze repeat. Notice HOW you are anticipating recoil when the snap cap is dropped on. Pushing forward? Cut it out. Shooting low left? Stop strangling the grip. Stop jerking the trigger. Going the other way? Watch your thumb. The only thing massive amounts of dry fire will do to someone who is recoil shy is get them used to the trigger and no recoil. The second ammo is added the flinch will still be there. It must be addressed in the moment.
>>64323138Yes but not as much.Aluminum compensators can be used with no issue. Steel compensators need you to pay attention to springs and ammo
Y/N?
>>64323242never shot a 1911 before do you have to keep squeezing hard to shoot or is the grip safety super light
>>64323242No trigger guard undercutNo front strap checkering Non-standard beavertail cut Kind of reminds me of a delta 1911
>>64323282Grip safety is super light and ideally you don’t even notice or make an effort to depress it
>>64323138Any effective compensator is going to eat into your margin of reliability with any non fixed barrel design. Generally speaking if okay with the recoil spring weight you should be able to get it to run reliably, but I'd stick to +p ammo for serious uses and do some limpwrist testing to see if you have any issues
>>64320822Perspective is hard to master, anon.
>>64323282Unironically, Spanish and Argentinians improved the 1911 by removing it, both in the star 45 and the Ballester Molina, the last one being loved by the SAS in north africa.Can't blame our lord JMB for it, it was a requirement of the cavalry.
thinking this auction is going to hit low 4k>>64323336kill yourself
>>64323282They're light, you don't really notice them at all during use
>>64323340Even Browning thought it was retarded.
>>64323366>dove tail mount on a USPstinky
>>64323366>chinkshit on a USPlove to see it
>>64323282Some people hold the gun such that it's hard to depress the gun safety, but most people don't have a problem with it.
>>64323191>>64323297NTA, but aren't 92FS compensators installed to the frame and therefore not additional "mass-on-spring"?>>64323222>Stop strangling the grip>Stop jerking the trigger>Watch your thumbDry fire exposes biomechanical issues like these which have to be addressed before the psychological phenomenon of recoil anticipation i e flinch
my police trade-in glonk arrived at the ffl yesterday lfg
>>64320822try blocking it out in simple shapes before you add the detail to get the perspective right.
>>64323406Thanks for the update, anon. Keep us posted!
>>64323397Dry fire exposes nothing as an isolated practice or when it can be anticipated that there will be no recoil. To properly diagnose the recoil anticipation response of the individual shooter you have to watch them shoot. Combined with, or self diagnosed with snap caps. This shows in real time the issue. I know, I know you think you know because you are parroting what you were told or watched the latest it guy talked about. You sit in an echo chamber and insist to yourself you must be right because everyone says so.1. Most recoil shy shooters are only recoil shy because they lack experience. 2. Most people who "teach" people how to shoot are hands on head retarded. 3. One must become acquainted with recoil BEFORE they are overwhelmed with accuracy and other finer points of shooting. The best way to cure recoil anticipation in most people is to let them shoot. No flood of information. No look at this not that. No stance correction and favorite grips. Badic bitch old school pistol or rifle grip and fire away in a safe direction. 4. After a new shooter is accustomed to shooting and no longer afraid of recoil, then one can address recoil issues in real time with randomly loaded snap caps. That allows the shooter to see and correct in the moment. Im betting you are one of those assholes that tries to teach stance, grip, sight picture, trigger manipulation BEFORE the individual has a fucking clue what shooting a firearm is like. If so YOU are the one fucking up new shooters.
>>64323397>>you have to fix the problem you are about to create before it happens
I’ve been looking at G19s and G48s, with the after market 15 round mags that are available for the 48/43x is there any real reason to get a 19? I would be fine CCing either but the only benefit I can see with the 19 is mag compatibility
>>64323665A thinner gun is much harder to shoot, and the 15 round 43x shield mags are not as reliable as OEM. If you want a glock get the 19. If you want a good tiny gun get something other than the 43x which is not tiny while having tiny gun problems, and also not good.
https://firearmcentral.fandom.com/wiki/PAMAS_G1>Best French pistol ever made is a 92 cloneSad but I still want one
>>64323475>>64323492Kek, all right then– let anon blow through several magazines of ammo at a blank sheet of paper and see if he finds his flow state before transitioning to fundamentals with a more precise target
>>64323723Anon might need to blow through few hundred magazines. Say, 100x10 round strings. That's what, $200?
>>64323731>burn through $200 in ammo before you learn anything other than to love the recoil I trust you have a qualification score above 274 to back this bold strategy, Cotton
>>64323665I like Glocks but the 43 felt weird to me personally.
We finally have video of the dragon being shothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMtxXOaCWkI
Too many aftermarket parts will corrupt you and your gun, like cyberware augments. You don’t need to be a teetotaler about it, but it’s probably better to just stick with the cloaking and targeting augs and leave it at that.
>>64324009I hate how cool recoil reducing technologies and guns are wasted on 9x19mm, .45 and 10mm need some love. >>64324011TRVTHNVKE
>>64320586They would certainly like you to think so.
>>64320822Nice work, anon. It looks like you put a lot of effort into it and you have some pretty clear ideas of where you need to improve. It took a lot of balls to post your drawings here.>>64321247>better than anything I've ever drawnAlso, this.
>>64322033Some people are insecure assholes and what do you know? They are attracted to guns. Imagine that. I haven't ordered that book yet because it's kind of expensive and I have a ton of frivolous spending to do this month, but I do have it saved to a list.
>>64323138>>64323191>>64323239>>64323297Can't you just get one that mounts to the frame or guide rod?
>>64323723>>shoot a box or two of ammunition so that the fear of the unknown is no longer a factor and one is familiar enough with recoil and operation that they can then take in new information from a position of experience.Yes. Thats how humans work.
I dunno about you guys but I shoot way better after the first 30-45 min at the range when I've gotten used to mini explosions happening in front of my face and the palm of my hand
>>64324321This but after the first shot and then after the first mag.Like, my first shot is always ass no matter what.
>>64324344>Like, my first shot is always ass no matter what.DA/SA?
>>64324349Doesn’t matter what I’m shooting, I will have somewhat of a flinch on the first shot and then from there I’m good to go. Just have to hear the bang and feel the recoil once to get acclimated and dialed in.
Is the P2's mixed rep a result of all the counterfeits? Or are the legit ones lemons too?
>>64324619legit ones have lemons due to them being hand assembled, debris inside, seal failure, etc
>>64324619Yes.
>>64324638>>64324700Well, that's fucking rough.Steiner MPS it is, then.
>>64324702>made in chiner it is thenlol
>>64324712Any other options, then?
>>64324311I'll need to see the SME's of this general weigh in before regarding that as fact
>>64324770There are a thousand enclosed sights.
>>64324770I like my ACRO, but I’m not 100% convinced the enclosed emitter juice is worth the squeeze.
