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Two guns I like
What do we think of these slide cuts? Nice and subdued or still too ostentatious?
>>64325770Grok, explain
whats a cheap but decent light for a glonk 17
>>64325797TLR 1 HL
>>64325801I just noticed the freaking immunity gummies on this guy's nightstand. I'm curious if he was actually kinda... special. What happened to Derl?
>>64325785
Are Meprolight dots any good?
>>64325785Series 70 Colt, National Match>>64325833>What happened to DerlB& for posting NSFW and doxing himself
If your home was going to be raided by SWAT or FBI agents, which caliber and which handgun would you use to defend yourself
>>64325939You would be better served by a carbine or rifle such as an AR-15. If a pistol is all you have, might as well surrender
>>64325923They're made in china like everyone else but they're a jewish company which means they're charging 3x what they're worth.
My DS Grips came in. Used the opportunity to add a LTT trigger bar and 13# hammer spring since I was taking the grips off anyways.
Is the Langdon trigger bar a noticeable upgrade or is it a marginal upgrade? Weighing cost.
>>64326044from a 92X RDO/92X Performance trigger bar, marginal, slight reduction to over travel = shorter reset from a 92FS trigger bar, big difference, huge, totally different
>>64325956ISN'T THERE ANY AFFORDABLE OPTIC THAT ISN'T MADE IN CHINA?!
EFLX is supposedly American and it's fairly inexpensive, but loopholed footprint
>>64326047Yeah, 92fs. I already did a d spring and it’s pretty smooth. Does it just lighten the pull a bit? Ive got deckocker only so I’m leery on going too light. Side note: any experience with retrofitting legacy tritium tubes? Afaik trijicon and most outfits won’t touch them now. Considering fiber. Don’t think front sight csn be dovetailed.
>>64326055""Yes""https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/798681703371https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/798681704682
>>64325758nah
>>64326078It makes it short reset,like 2-3mm, probably one of the shorter resets on a DA/SA gun. Slightly optimizes the pull but not really that noticeable versus a spring. Removes overtravel too. I forgot I had this video
>>64326088Insanity
>>64326093I forgot to bid, but I would have probably tapped out at 4.1kI want it. I need it. But it's too rare to carry, I mean I carry a Nighthawk or Wilson sometimes but a STRAYER-VOUGHT INFINITY? I should build a gun that's 80% cosmetically the same, Infinity to my knowledge doesn't make slides like that any more
>>64326086....Okay, but are these even remotely good
>>64326092Awesome comparison, thanks! Tonorrow I’m going to play around with the reset. Supposedly getting new slide in tomorrow.
>>64326110It's safe to say it's about as short of a reset you physically can get in a "drop in" part. I have had some instances of the trigger bar not dropping in with certain frame, hammer, hammer spring combinations where the overtravel reduction is too much and prevents the trigger from being pulled 1/5 times but they are drop in. Langdon has a video what to do if it doesn't drop in (it should)
>>64326116Don’t think will be much of an issue but appreciate the comparison. I wasn’t sure if it was worth dropping the cash on. It’s cool to have all of these upgrades and parts available now. D spring used to be sole THE SHIT upgrade out there sans the typical polish fluff n dust.
>>64326055>>64326107There are definitely affordable options outside of china.Its just that your budget tops out at china. You're a broke bitch and its not the fault of "Made in USA"
>>64326195Sorry if I don't think it's sensible to drop 700 bucks on an SRO.I'll wait till they're 550 again.
>>64326107It's quite deece. There are drawbacks, the plastic housing is thicker than aluminium would be around the window and deck. It has one (very nicely clicky) button for all controls. The knobs have no clicks. The battery tray is not waterproof. The lens has an unusually strong green notch filter for a 2025 design. But it's $160 and "made in the USA" which is unheard of, and Sig is tied for the best optics warranty in the business. Unlike chinese companies Sig isn't going anywhere, if it breaks in 15 years they'll replace it with whatever's in production thenIf you want something that doesn't have such drawbacks, buy chinese. If you want something that doesn't have such drawbacks and isn't chinese, pay 4x more. Sig has other US made models with fewer/no drawbacks, but they ain't $160. Honestly for me the warranty is the kicker. It's like Vortex with their insane warranty that applies to $120 scopes. $120/160 for an optic that will be supported/replaced F O R E V E R is nuts>>64326195>There are definitely affordable options outside of china.What are some examples? The only stuff I can think of that even gets close to $160 is copies of 5-8 year old designs, and ebay knockoffs>>64326203They're less than thathttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/719307615779https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/719307615793Still not worth it imo
>>64325758Almost bought one of these a few months ago. Honestly way better things to spend money on than this.
>>64326207Honestly, I'm willing to go up to 400, 500 on a diet.Does that get me out of Bing-Chilling land or am I going to have to shell out more.
>>64326207
>>64326216Isn't Cyelee chiner too?
>>64326220Oh yeah.
>>64325758Should I be sensible and carry these for anti-jogger use in my Ruger SRH Alaskan or go full retard (or based) and carry Federal’s 250gr Barnes XPB load at ~1530fps (obviously gonna be less in the 2.5” barrel)?
>>64326214Hmm yeah there are options but I'm not the guy to opine because I'm going to say the chinese bargain is too enticing, Sig is the only outlier in that value bracket. You're paying for nothing by skipping chiner, except with Sig and Vortex you get a lifetime warranty. You do not with Trijewcon or most other brands.Anyway, I would expect you could find a Shield around $350, Sig Romeo X Pro (open emitter) under $400, Deltapoint Micro can be got for like $150 but their drawbacks are enormous, C-More RTS2 under $250 (really good competition optic but not immune to drops and also a rare footprint--glorious NIPPON aluminium and glass folded over 1000 times), Vortex Compdot is made in the Philippines and WERE under $300 but they've dried up (XL is chiner)Start plugging SKUs into gun.dealshttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/798681688180https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/649725005978https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/754590543408>>64326216>>64326224Cyelee not amelican disgusting piggu eat shit Caleb Johnson dumb swine drink Starbuck China #1
>>64326240Hey man I fixed it okay I'm sorry. Not sure what cheap american optics are out there that are good at this point and I'm not talking about assembled in the USA.
Would it be feasible to make a non-meme bolt action pistol, or would the bolt just be too light to be any good? I consider the Station Six a meme, it extracts poorly.
It’s time to retire my trusty pm9 for something with more capacity. There’s been an influx of niggers in my town and I don’t think 6+1 will cut it anymore if they all try to rape me at the same time. Something like the Shield X seems to be the ticket as far as profile and capacity but there’s too many variants of subcompacts now to know for sure. Recommended me something.
>>64325935Which is for the best, I think he got off on self humiliation.
What red dot sight and rail should I put on my Norinco Chinese Tokarev, now that I'm finally a US citizen?
>>64326543Been very pleased with my Shield Plus Carry Comp. The Shield triggers are pretty crisp and top tier for guns in that role
>>64326093>obnoxious namefag is a broke bitchSAD! many such cases
>>64326248The HTX-1 is supposedly made in America apart from the emitter, which is made in Germany.It isn't cheap. I don't know if it's good.
>>64325800hell yeah thanks dude
>>64325793Speaking of slide cuts, what are the thoughts and recommendations on mounting optics to a regular Glock 17 Gen 5? It looks like I'll need to get the slide cut, but have no idea on who to send it to, if I should just buy an aftermarket pre-cut slide for a red dot, or if there are good options that won't require a slide cut. Thankfully I didn't have to worry about this for my sub-compact for ccw.
>>64327213if you bought a gen 5 that didn't have an MOS cut you're stupid.for glocks you can probably just ask any local gunsmith, they'll toss it on a pile to get milled the one day a month they have a CNC machine session rented out.Its simpler to just buy another slide and you dont have any gun downtime while you wait for your slide to get cut.
Maple leafBattlewerxJagerwerksWagerAll do direct optic cuts for Glock slides sent in
>>64327271It was my first ever gun from before I even knew what a MOS cut was. Downtime is no problem, but if buying another slide is close enough in price for a guaranteed good fit, that sounds great. Otherwise if getting a new slide costs like twice or more the cost of a good cut with no real additional benefits, the down time is worth it to me.
>>64327297Don’t mind the resident faggot. Milling is usually cheaper barring sales. I’d recommend getting your dot and everything ahead of time as they’ll install it while they’re at it. I went jagerwerks and besides the bit of a turnaround, I had no complaints.
>>64327311Cheers, thanks! Yeah, it looks like buying a new slide is over double the price of getting one milled. Plus I have a p365 and other options, so the lead and processing times are fine.
>>64327376Lead times for jagerwerks is insane right now I'd go maple leaf or wager.
I was hesitant to send off my one and only slide for permanent modification like that, the extra spare slides are not very expensive for most Glocks, eBay is full of them, $150--170 depending on scratches and finish type (frying pan extra, nitride with holster wear less). OEM slides are extremely swappable.
>>64327271A cut is superior to MOS. You eliminate one additional point of failure and you can typically get it low enough that with certain optics you don't need to use suppressor height sights.
>>64327398>you don't need to use suppressor height sightsBut then you might want to use a suppressor and it blocks lower half of the red dot window.
>>64327411You’re not shoot target focused?
This looks more funny than it should
Picked up a Tisas ASF 1911A1 as my first 1911. I’ve heard Tisas springs are shit and should be replaced with Wilson Combat. Which springs are we talking? Recoil spring? Safety plunger?
>>64327441lol
Is vortex defender good? Anyone have one? Apparently they have aspheric lens that should distort less, but it would all be for nothing if it fucking breaks.
>>64327472replace when you need to. All springs are good until they're not good anymore. The problem is "bad" springs are not good faster than "good" springs, but they're still springs.and no, theres really nothing you can change on a 1911 that will matter as long as the slide reciprocates, the hammer hits hard enough to ignite a primer, and the trigger pushes itself back out to reset.also>safety plungerlmao
How retarded would it be to get a CZ75 for CCing bros
>>64327563suboptimal
>>64325758You know, I'm genuinely surprised I don't see more janked out glock clone builds here
>>64327579There was a gay guy who had a ton of 3d printed Glocks
>>64327563Definitely been curious about their P-01s and the Compacts
On other guns I have crazy vertical dispersion at 7 vs 25 but on this gun I have nearly none. I should correct the zero to be higher This is 10 rounds, 5 at 7 and 5 at 25. All 5 at 7 were in the same hole
Where should I go for aftermarket mags? Beretta is only making polymer ones for the new bobcat, and I want steel. I have found a couple listings, but the websites seem sketchy to me. I do not want gay plastic shit. >t. anon making the transition from wheelgun to semi-auto
i wish .50 GI wasn't so unreliable in glogs
>>64327563it'll be a bit heavy but you can get it ported
>>64327867Anon just shoot 45. It's only 0.05 smaller and it's already slow as an aigun.
>>64327530Thanks, saved me from paying shipping on some tiny ass springs from Wilson
>>64325793I like the look, it depends on the gun I really like some of the Infinities that only have front serrations/checkering and a bald rear with a really low optic mount built into the slide
Shooting suppressed with a red dot, does your optic become caked in powder to the point where it's difficult to see through it?
>>64328187Yes but you can use red dots if it’s totally occluded if you shoot target focused
>>64328187it takes a lot of shooting for that to happen and you can just wipe it off.
how'd i do
compatible with safariland with a little modification to the barrel plug
>>64329193looks sweetI had no idea Walther made island comps
>>64329193>tall-ass slide to make the gun flippier than a compact
>>64329222i was in the market for a gun for 2 gun competitions and i went to my LGS and looked at a bunch and loved the walther trigger and grip, the guy i work with told me about this one. comes with 3 20rd magazines, upgraded trigger, compensator and is optic cut and it was $900 out the door even though they ordered it in (no tax in florida right now and they took 100 off msrp even though they ordered it) (not including light and rmr and mounting plate, that was another 1k)
>>64329228>whining about 9mm recoil
>>64329228False.
Thoughts on the p2000sk as a first carry gun? I like da/sa and HK always seemed cool. Also is leather holster iwb carry safe for da/sa? I know it's a no-go for strikers. Thanks fags
>>64329315I’d heavily recommend the PX4 compact carry 2 but leather holsters are fine
I got my new S&W 686 back from having the front sight repaired... but it seems like there's a little cylinder slop when it should be locked. I guess it's ok but disappointing.
>>64329228>he fell for the bore height meme
>>64329416>physics is a meme
>>64329350don't worry pepenow you get to begin your journey of how to diagnose and fix revolver timing I'm not memeing btw, this will be fun and valuable :)
>>64329419It is when the result is mathematically negligible but they try to sell you a new product anyway, which you gobble up like a good goy
>>64329419Post some groups so we can judge how much your opinion on this undeniably irrelevant meme matters.
>>64329482>thinks bore height is about accuracyYou really are retarded huh? Probably an american too lol
>>64329315You could do worse. There was a time when it would have been an inarguably excellent choice. They're also getting to be slightly harder to find since they are no longer in production. Skip the LEM trigger if you decide to go with a p2ksk as it can be challenging to acclimate to for CC. I carried mine for about 6 years before I finally admitted there are better options out there. This anon >>64329326 made a great suggestion with the PX4. If you want the best get the LangdonAnother great option might be the RAMI, which is also out of production...
>>64329500Spit times are irrelevant in this context, if I asked you for splits you could just yank the trigger as fast as possible while making a 5 foot group at 7 yards. Though I suppose you could lie about a target's distance too, but since you can't even provide an image of a target, lie or not, you're clearly not experienced enough for bore axis to matter. Because the top 10 shooters on the planet aren't hampered by bore axis either.But by all means, post some proof of your massive world class shooting experience. Whatever you like. You can move the goalposts as far as you like. Post literally anything at all. I'll wait.
Police trade-in Glock 17 acquired. Came in a case with the little cleaning rod plus a mag. Minimal holster wear. Front sight is a Trijcon night-sight (but the back isn't for some reason). Shoots fantastic. Pretty solid for $375 after tax shipping and FFL fees. Would buy again.
>>64329607Hi glocktroon 2.0
>>64329546what do you carry now? Still da/sa?
>>64329607nice score anon. now choot it
>>64325758I hate these new pistol based, looks like the gun has a skirt
>>64329633I did, put about 50ish rounds through it today. The range I picked it up from was close to closing by the time I was able to pick it up. Got 1000 more rounds coming in the mail tomorrow.
wml or no wml for cc? I have a stock glock 19
>>64329698If you can bear it, I can’t WML holsters also compromise safety/retention, you should also have a non WML back up holster set up for when you decide that morning not to carry your burdensome WML
>>64326963Hi newfriend. Welcome to /hg/!
Just picked my Colt brand Colt from the FLGS and I'm pretty damn happy with it. The fit and finnish are quite good and the trigger is better than the one I tried in the store last year. I won't have time to shoot it for a while, but I sure hope it runs as good as it looks.
They also had this lil guy for $7,500.
>>64329500>>64329572Waiting.
>>64329820Damn it.
>>64329432>mathematically negligibleThe smaller a moment arm is, the more significant each fraction of an inch becomes.
>>64329875literally negligible, nigger
rate my purchase. springfield garrison 1911. paid $775 (~$850 after tax) from LGS which is below msrp from looking it up on springfield's website. only shitty thing is it comes with 1 7-round magazine and that thing is shoddy as fuck. trying to put the first round in the magazine is annoying because it decompresses the spring unevenly and part of the follower gets stuck on the outer shell of the magazine. I have to stick my finger inside the mag to push on the spring evenly as i load it which is annoying.i bought a wilson combat 47D 1911 magazine but for some reason, i can't insert the mag fully without pushing on the mag release. otherwise it will fit just fine (haven't shot it yet but it seems to cycle manually). any ideas if this is more a magazine problem or is it the 1911 itself? wondering if buying another magazine will fix the issue or if i should expect this for most non SA magazines.
>>64329888shoot it at least once before posting
>>64329895i did, i shot it yesterday when i bought it and then gave it a good cleaning because it was oily as fuck. only a 50 round box. whats your point?
>>64327563>>64327670I have a 75 compact. It’s heavy. Would recommend the P01 instead, or PCR.
>>64329426Im not gonna bother, just a little millimeter play when you jiggle it, otherwise timing is good. Im just gonna shoot the snot out of it see if it gets any worse.
>>64329895>>64329900to be clear, i haven't shot it with the new magazine. i only noticed the magazine issue when i was shooting it so then i grabbed another magazine before i left the store.
>>64329888Perhaps the magazine catch shelf is weird/non standard versus the Wilson StuffI used a Springfield TRP slide on a build and no matter what ejector I bought it left a huge gap
>>64329888Nice penis
>>64329709>WML holsters also compromise safetyhow so?
>>64329942well i didn't want to be so tough on a new gun but i just went ahead and gave the magazine a good smack and it seems to overcome the catching issue. i just thought it was weird that the factory mag slides in smoothly while this wilson combat mag gets stuck. i can't really notice any difference between the two mags but i suppose a couple mm is all it takes to have a smooth ride or not.
>>64330026>well i didn't want to be so tough on a new gunPSA to all newer shooters: don't baby your guns. Treat them like they're a Latina side piece that is pregnant with your child and threatening to tell your wife
>>64329632switched to a langdon tac USPcnot necessarily any better than the p2ksk but that langdon tac job was *very* worth it
Would Langdon ever bother with the Taurus TH?
>>64329999Much larger opening around the trigger to accept the lightSome holsters have terrible trigger guard gap
Roast me anons
>>64330506Personally I would have got a regular P365 and a 12 round mag so you can make it smaller if you wanna conceal it in inconvenient situations. But you still made a pretty great choice overall, Sig makes the best micro nine and it's not even close.
>>64330506Why?
>>64325770You're in so much pain, ah disabled, right? What a poor, poor existance. Hope you find some peace in your life and may your brain get better.
'whats the comfiest non plastic holster for makarov
>>64330506Why would we roast you? that's a pretty good pick overall, 17 rounds and a lot of modding.If anything I would say you should pick the Holosun EPS because it gives you a bigger window but other than that, good stuff.
>>64330541thats the X not the XL, so it's a 12 round mag
>>64330506buy some extra trigger return springs. your gonna need em
>>64330546Look at the yellow band, literally says macro, so 17 rounds.
>>64329419>>64329572NTA but also waiting. Here's an old pic of my groups training 7 yard draw drillsI know I asked before but then i fucking forgot to download what was reccomended to me, what shot timer app yall using? I used to use splits but that was mostly but because it was free.
>>64329315>it's a no-go for strikersIt's a what now?
>>64330529lol lmfao
>>64330620Leather can warp and distort.
>>64330616And im not seeing a screenshot from that day on the splits app i was using, but here is one from around that time I was able to find.Anyways height over bore is stupid to focus on when there is so much more to shooting a gun fast and accurately and was memed into the lexicon by CZ/Glockfags as a way to justify their purchases. Competition shooting is dominated by 2011s, which have really high bore axis. Those guys care about razor thin margins, and even they don't think bore axis is the be all end all of shooting fast.
>>64326233yo dawg, we put a bullet in your bullet so you can shoot while you shoot
Old meta vs new meta
>>64330506good gun, do not go to your LGS and try an FN reflex tomorrow. don't do it. keep believing you made the right choice.
>>64326543If you wanna go micro, P365 can get you 14+1 with an extended mag + mag guts.
>>64330659>Penetration. Expansion. Damage. Power. Controllable.>These are words used to describe the new 230gr. Equalizer from DoubleTap.>What about two shots in one?>A 135gr. JHP over a 95gr. lead ball @ 1040fps. This load is VERY accurate andproduces two holes on target. The ball hits high every time - less than one inch from the JHP @ 10yds and 2.5" from the JHP @ 25yds.https://doubletapammo.com/collections/10mm/products/10mm-230gr-equalizer-a-20rds?variant=33765494227080
>>64329607>Trijicon front>AmeriGlo rearMy guess is that the front tritium lamp dimmed before the rears so the armourer just replaced it with whatever was on hand, mismatching be damned>>64329669>put about 50ish rounds through it todayYou didn't keep or photograph the target[s]?
>>64329500>>64329572Still waiting for you to post any sort of indication of your level of skill and expertise. Literally anything at all. Your silence is deafening.
>>64329652Guns are ladies, you refer to them as her
>>64325758bump misread the assignment and only did 25 rounds. gonna try again and see if I can't bust into the 230's
>>64329843>>64330873He buck broke you and the best part is he was right there is a reason why the flattest shooting handguns on earth have a low bore axis. You can cry all you want that it's negligable however I don't want to hear your opinions until you've shot a laugo alien and compared it to something with a higher bore axis. It is undeniably superior.
>>64331741To add to this, it’s kind of like the difference between a comped and non comped handgun in a way. It’s not gonna fix a shooter with poor fundamentals but it will give a skilled shooter an edge especially when it comes to splits.
>>64330845>My guess is that the front tritium lamp dimmed before the rears so the armourer just replaced it with whatever was on hand, mismatching be damnedInteresting, I thought it may just be a preference thing but that makes more sense. Shame they didn't replace it with a stock Glock rear, I like the white paint bracket. >You didn't keep or photograph the target[s]?Yeah let me post my okayish groups on the most critical site on the internet lol
>>64331741Ben Stoeger didn’t like the largo alien and I’m pretty sure the 2011 with its tall bore axis is the premier race gun
>>64332011so now that paul harrell is dead ben stoeger is your new gun dad you defer to on all things?
>>64332011That’s because of how much tuning you can do with the 2011 platform. Low bore axis is just one of the factors that contributes to a flat shooting gun.
>>64332030I was doing this before he died but yeah, Ben is jaded and hates everything except the things he likes. Unlike other YouTubers that would cream at just being able to shoot an expensive gun
Pew View is one of the best shooters on youtube yet you never hear anyone say anything about him
Anyone here ever have any of their guns ported?
>>64332055Meme, a red dot and getting good at shooting is more effective than ports on a 9mm but I haven’t revisited ports after “getting good” (I am not great)
painted muh new gun
>>64332324lol
>>64332324Geeze bro that looks unhealthy you should get your liver checked
>>64326715>got off on self humiliationThat's mental, Derl might have actually killed himself– fucking grim>>64331717I told you so! Combat sights are meant for silhouettes, not 5" 5/16 diameter targets at 25 yards>bust into the 230'sNo doubt you'll be able to surpass my best score :3c>>64331979>the most critical site on the internetNah, this general would just give you pointers on how improve unless you fuck around too much. Only assholes like this >>64329500 talk shit without any groups to back it up
>>64332055Yep, im the guy who shills monsoon tactical on occasion. their lucky 7's porting is incredibly nice on glocks, as well as their chunk porting.personally i think its only worth it on subcompacts just to take the edge off.
>>64332427>Combat sights are meant for silhouettesthe sights were just fine tbqh, I'm just not a great pistol shooter. Give me another couple years of practice and I may be able to keep it all in the black
>>64332452Have you ever had debris fly in your face from shooting with a comp?
>>64331741>He buck broke you>getting called out multiple times by different people for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about is good actuallyWere still waiting btw.>>64332324Looks great man, I'm glad you are liking the PDP enough to personalize itExcited to shoot my FRT TX22 at my buddies outdoor range this weekend, I'll make sure to post groups. Would be hilarious if I was able to get it even close to accurate.
>>64326543I thought this was varg for a second>>64332052I mean he's good at shooting but he's just a showcase/shill channel, there's really not much substance to his videos. Also I get a weird feeling from him, not a fellow id trust.
Y’all shooting today?
>>64332301perhaps the most homo hands of all time + autist NVG camo. this guy owns tranny socks
>>64332573not with that style but the more aggressive porting absolutely spits dirt in your face and its not very fun
>>64325793It looks like assReminds me of early 90's computer graphics for some reason
>>64332596>I'm glad you are liking the PDPi put 250-300 rds downrange last night with it, it shoots great. i haven't spent much time using a red dot and it really helped me start identifying changes i can make to my grip and trigger pull to get back on target faster and shoot more accurately. it also was very reliable, i had one round that didn't chamber so i cleared it, put it back in the magazine, had the same problem with the same round and threw it away and then no further problems. i was trying to shoot and reload as fast as possible while being accurate, in hindsight I should have examined the round to see if it was at fault. it happened with 124gr HST ammo (shot 50 of em). the S&B 124gr functioned flawlessly for the 250 rds i went through. the compensator definitely makes a difference with respect to recoil. overall i think it is going to help me improve my performance in competitions and that's what I want to achieve.
>>64332646>yes I would like a flashbang in my face and my bullets velocity cut in half, also, if you could make it so the pistol does not cycle reliably with any ammo other than +P+ for enhanced flashbang effect that would really help me get the shooting experience I want
>>64332791Porting has very little effect on velocity
>>64332596Waiting for your practiscore or any indication you actually shoot other than tranime pictures or 7yd targets you dumb american loser
>>64329572>Spit times are irrelevant in this contextMore proof that you're an idiot
I see only one person posting a gun or groups.
>>64332541>keep it all in the blackThe only anon who was able to accomplish that [pictured] without an optic used an adjustable rear sight which is advantageous because the elevation can be set for a bullseye / center hold. Target shooting without target sights just seems like a lesson in futility but more power to you aiming for the stars >>64332879>only one personErm
>>64332900I mean from the two people arguing about bore axis
>>64332596>>64330873>>64329572This doesn't look like a grouping to me
>>64332900I have adjustables on all my guns and I probably couldn't do it
>>64332900Bro there is no fucking hold or elevation adjustment for 15-25 yards This is 5 rounds at 7 and then 5 rounds at 25 on top of each other. All 5 at 7 were in the same hole at the bottom of the X ring
>>64332879May I see them?
>>64333006Glocktroon aka pastebin says he figured out which range you go to btw.
>>64333014Yeah, he probably can’t afford the entry fee
>>64332646Been debating getting a Sabre Dagger for awhile, any good?
>>64333003Check >>64330652 or >>64330616But why didn't you post a split/group? If you call someone out, post your own.>>64332832Post your own, but while were talking about it I plan on hitting the range tomorrow since it's the first day I'll have off since I started this new Detroit contract last week. Anyone have the links to the instructions/targets? Figured I can print em at Staples or something>>64332846You have the ability to silence your critics by posting ANY proof you know what you're talking about. Were still waiting.
>>64333014Guy legit needs to log off and touch grass. /arg/ is an awful place to get into behavioral syncs.
>>64333006Donny, you're out of your element. We're not discussing zeroes nor point blanks here. What I'm explaining to anon is that an adjustable rear sight allows for custom sight picture. It's much easier to front sight focus a bull's eye / center hold than to target focus a combat hold>>64333004Not with that attitude, anon!>>64332997>the two people arguingI think the other one might be Weedgineer>>64333014I never said that and am not on the search for him nor anyone else. You're just claiming that because you're an asshole trying to stir shit up
>>64333397You really need to get the fuck out of here you schizo noshoots. Go to your paid discord and stay there.
>>64333397I don't find combat sight picture to be an issue personally. sight picture of my tisas w/ novak 3-dot style sights looks just like the 1st in your snip and I keep both eyes open, front site focus when at 25yd or target focus any closer than that. Simply put the front dot in the middle of the black circle. If I had perfectly steady hands and perfect recoil control I'd have a perfect score it's more those things than the sight picture that affects the group imo
>>64333385Had to split the post because chan thought it was spam, odd. Never seen that before. And then i had to wait 120 seconds nine times. This is why I stopped posting here. >64332761Yeah dude comps and red dots aren't a meme no matter what folks tell you, glad you're getting first hand expirence with em. If you shoot enough you will run into out of spec rounds, it just happens. My worst ammo expirences has been with turkish ammo like BPS and Turan, had a ton of primers that wouldn't pop in any gun and a couple rounds that wouldn't feed in anything either. Pic rel, the primer was seated too deep in this round to fire in any of the pistols I tried it in. Next time save the ammo, you can get refunds from companies occasionally, winchester even took care of me when I had a bad box of WWB
>>64333828comps are 100% a meme on low power rounds like 9mm
>>64333453>noshootsI have undoubtably put more lead down range this month than you have all year, SYBAU>>64333499>front site focus when at 25yd>put the front dot in the middle of the blackGuess I must have been doing something wrong during both attempts as my front sight eclipsed the entire 9-ring and need to step up my game!
>>64333866You've shot 4k rounds between various handguns at practice sessions and local comps? That's news to me.
>>64333866>I have undoubtably put more lead down range this month than you have all year, SYBAUYour qual results say otherwise.
>got a para warthog frame to practice fitting on before I drop serious money on 2011 parts>It feels like a feather in my hand and doesn't inspire confidence that it can handle 10mmHere it is next to my CS40, granted, the actual frame rails are roughly as thick but there's so much less material everywhere else. I'm unsure if I go ahead with the 10/40 slide I already have and get a threaded barrel+compensator to slow down the 3 inch slide or if I pivot to a 45 build. >>64329811Nice ACP anon>>64330151Would be interesting but I think he likes to stick to guns that are reliable to start with(I think that's the main reason they no longer work on tomcats)
>>64332452Is chunk porting better than the glock store c cuts?
>>64332617What are you some sort of hand fetishist? What a weird thing to care about
So what's the consensus on suppressed handguns?
>>64334018They're fun and they spit alot of gas and unburnt powder into your mouth
>>64334018Difficult to carry with a can
So i just got this gun. It came with a cool late 90s style polymer stock since i have no gay retarded laws. That being said these pre-TP9 before B&T got the rights are interesting. There's cheap considering how few were actually produced and they are easily "modernised" thanks to them being 90 % compatible with TP9 parts.
>>64334064>since i have no gay retarded laws. Why is this allowed? It's profoundly unamerican that someone has better gun laws, NFA should be repealed immediately for this reason.
>>64334092their gay retarded laws are more about getting access to guns and using them in the first place.
>>64334106>getting access to gunsFar easier to access full auto guns. Cheaper too.>using themNot being able to shoot outside at a pile of dirt or at a nigger is a huge downsides, i'll give you that. But outside of that we can shoot just fine.
>>64334119it's not "difficult" in the US, just significantly more steps then getting non full auto guns. Though FRT's are kind of making that a moot point. I am jealous of all the weird stuff and older surplus you guys can get though.
>>64333252Kek
>>64334133Indeed. However as far as i'm aware the sheer cost of said full auto guns is actually the real filter. An almost brand new M10 can be found for less than 2K here if you know where to look and get lucky. The got for 10K if not more in Shartrica.
>>64333887>4k rounds>various handguns>local compsRule 32, anon>>64333900You didn't even attempt the /hg/ qual, SYBAU
>>64334329>>64333866Same skill level as a drunk mexican gang banger
It's finally here. I would have sex with Asuka and marry her by the way
Misato > Asuka tho
>>64334413We have all made the pledge to ignore him please do the same.
>>64326086>clear optic>no clear gun to mount it towhy bother
>>64334473I'm happy for you, now go get a USP
>>64334628Technically have some already, most of my stuff lives with my dad in our safes (multiple). I'm getting a 92 compact soon enough and I'll probably spring for a Dan Wesson at some point, and a SA35 since they're fun. The seller for this P-01 has about $450ish in aftermarket CGW parts in it, so all I'd maybe want to do is a trigger replacement and get a different hammer if I felt like it, and perhaps an optics cut. Have yet to ever do that on a pistol, I usually get Trijicon sights or Dawsons and call it a night since I'm happy with them. I've used optics on stuff friends and coworkers own, and it's fun and intuitive, I'm just not sure if I want to carry that inside my pants. If I shoulder holster maxx it won't be relevant or an issue. Many decisions to be made. I only buy a few guns a year, three at the most, since I fuck around with parts for ages.>>64334503Nuh uh. Asuka is my girlfriend and I will get her pregnant. Kaji is a better man than me and I'll leave it at that
>>64334595>>64326086This would look nice on a stainless or maybe nickeled gun
>>64334658I have never watched EVA
>>64334473Curious about the P-01s and CGW's stuff, let us know how it runs
>>64334999If you come to 4chan, you should familiarize yourself with EVA.EVA is also a genuinely good anime and if you've watched plenty of anime beforehand, you'll begin to notice how influential it was
Are the 15 round mag conversion kits for the 43x a “why haven’t you done it” or “why did you do it”
what's the comfiest holster ever that's not plastic? Are urban carry memes
>>64334999Nice picture and digits. Funny my original post ended in 4473, too, right after I came back from the FFL. The old lady was amazed at how quickly it approved me as we talked about her cats named after Confederate officers.>>64335072I've lots of 124-grain S&B to ram through it, the CSX, VP9 and maybe the Scorpion if I feel like it. Mayhaps even the fabled Yeet Cannon I've been too afraid to fire since it's a hipoint. The CZ75 has a 16-pound spring factory, and that's what the seller replaced it with as well. I don't buy anything below 124-grains for 9mm, otherwise I'd test the rumored malfunctions the CZ75 has with skinnier girls through it but I imagine we all know it's not really an issue and I can shrimply use a 13-pound spring if I wanted to (I don't). If I get a CGW hammer, it'd be the bobbed since I enjoy those more, even if the race hammer looks cool. Rebuilding a decocker sear is a humongous nigger and I'd be bitching about it here for several days since I use my hands for everything, no vices or tools other than multitools and punch sets. I should probably build up a little workbench area to make this easier on myself... If anyone has recommendations, let me know, I'll appreciate it. AR stuff is fine too. I'm somewhat miserable because I smashed my left thumb in a car door and now it's all black. Forgetting this, I made it worse stopping the hammer fall on the P-01 as I finished dryfiring it and messing with the decocker. I have no digital gauge to actually reference it to, but the DA pull is about ten pounds it feels like, and the SA is maybe five. It's not bad at all. I can't tell if the CGW parts replaced the stock there or not, as the seller didn't provide the bags they came in for everything he did to it.I should get some MecGar 16-rounders while they're only $21ish on gmw while I'm thinking about it. My TLR1 is broken so I'll test the 7X on it. The VP9 has a noticeably thicker slide and rear due to the striker components versus hammer.
>>64335105every character becomes their parents (who they hate) and teenagers throw hissyfits between mech battles. similar plot to gundam.
>>64335105…totally not the reason I have a USP lol
>>64325758does my gun have a straight or slanted dust cover? i can't tell because of the color.
What are they cooking?
>>64335262maybe if you took a better picture>>64335287total firearms domination, they're the largest firearms corporation IIRC, own most if not all Italian brands like Beneli, own Steiner, Burris, Tikka/Sako
>>64335262Straight.
>>64335307unfortunately the owner probably isn't
>>64335315fuck you you fuckin homophiliac
>>64335323confirmed, the owner definitely isn't
>>64335315kek
>>64335262looks like straight dust cover, no radius on back of grip, just like my 92FSI guess it's an M9 frame with 92FS sights and markings
>>64335356i kind of want a matching all black bruniton one to go with it, although i also want an LTT/resident evil inspired two tone version as well. i just wish beretta did a 10mm model instead of just the 96.
>>64335105>>64335234Does the plastic USP frame actually feel thicker and sturdier than a Glock/P10C/M&P etc.? I know the slide is heavier but the rest of the USP doesn't look like anything special.
>>64335455>Glock/P10C/M&PI don’t have any of those but it doesn’t feel any sturdier than my PX4 or PPQ. Not sure if its really “thicker” but is less tapered to it may have the appearance of being thicker
>>64335455>>64335491also the 45 is bigger in all dimensions
>>64335287>thus far only own Berettas>Was considering making a Ruger my next purchase
Which optic cut should I get for a Glock that I might actually carry? RMR irons factory or EPS rear delete?
>>64335566you'll never need it
>>64335455No.
>>64335566rmr
there's really no comfortable way to carry a gun without it digging into something or orinting like crazy besides pocket carry and none of carry anything. Don't lie
>>64334413>no groups posted
>>64335700I find this comfortable and I’m building a 5 inch 2011 to appendix carry
>>64335760Also I only find appendix carry comfortable with a underbelt system
Ben Stoeger sisters, it's ogre.
>>64334999its decenti recommend watching with a fren
>>64335700DCC monoblocks, holster wing claws and a Hanks kydex-reinforced leather belt work for me.
shield x, masada slim elite, or hellcat pro?shield x seems to be slimmest, masada has the best trigger as far as i can tell from dry firing it.
>>64335959What happened, did he get Vogel’dHe hasn’t posted
>>64333252>any good?
>>64336087He's just banned from Youtube for a week because the retarded jeet women working there think he's "selling guns".
>>64334018pretty much the only reason to use a handgun is ease of carry, and the silencer generally ruins that. maybe we'll see some more stuff like the maxim 9, but outside of the cool factor i wouldn't bother, handgun cartridges aren't generally super loud anyways. plus it makes them more front heavy which is annoying.
>>64327563I cc a P-01 without a light everyday. With shorts or jeans and a belt its fine. The factory sights suck and I replaced them with simple fiber optic sights but other than that I kept it stock.
>>64327563its doable but annoying both in weight and extra maintenance to prevent rust. used to carry one then when i swapped to a glock years later it was wow why the fuck did i insist on carrying that p01? however you could be attempting to carry a worse gun.
>>64330721>RCRIt's so damn ugly as sin but outside of that how do you like it ?
>>64335234Well it was a combination of EVA, Hop's Hype and Kompromise, and actually renting the gun that convinced me to buy it.A part of me kind of wishes that I bought the .40 S&W version but I love my .45 ACP USP very much.I neee more .45 ammo damnit
>>64335760Terrible gig line
>>64325785Based two guns poster
>>64336405should i look into a 9mm usp? im not sure what to get next besides my glocks and beretta. not interested in another new caliber though.
>>64336527Yeah if you wanna stay consistent with calibers its a good idea to get a 9mm USP.I mean, the USP will make 9mm feel softer than it already is.Personally, I'd look into getting a 9mm CCW unless you have that covered
Running through the gambit of trigger upgrades for this build to improve it's shitty feel. Right now all i have is a ghost 3.5 ultimate connector a 5lb striker spring and reduced weight plunger. It helped lighten the pull, but the wall is a terrible rolling wall, not defined, and a terrible reset.Thought about Glock performance trigger where i polish it up nice and get a new trigger shoe. Cheaper route, but maybe not as crisp as a I would like.Thought about getting Johnny glock with vex shoe, superior triggers FFT, or tactical pontoon trigger. More expensive, but more likely to give me a nice crisp break and short reset.Thought and recommendations?
Are Shadow Systems guns good?I kind of want a ridiculous "John Wick" gun
>>64335127Buy the PSA dagger micro mags that use the regular plastic mag catch ignore the shield arms
>>64336563If you want a somewhat hard wall you need to use a dot connector or the unmarked #5 connector. The minus connector and ghost 3.5 as you discovered has a rolling break. That does not explain the poor reset however, ghost connectors are notorious for being wonky out of the box and you have to adjust the angle for a more positive reset.
>>64336353NTA but I have one. It’s literally just an enclosed RMR nothing more nothing less. Same blue tint and edge distortion however I don’t notice it much when I’m focused on the target.
>>64336757*ignore my dot connector suggestion I just saw the single pin and that gives a rolling break with the gen 5 trigger housing. #5 unmarked will give you a well defined wall.
>>64336808Appreciate the response. I still am considering doing that, but in combination with a GPT and new shoe.
>>64337037Lots of people have issues with the GPT even Ben Stoeger I’d either play with connectors until you get something you’re satisfied or go with something from a trigger tuning autist like Johnny Glock or Tactical Pontoon
>>64336087>>64336144Of course 4channel incels don't have a clue about anything occurring in the world outside of their Moldovian shadow puppet bulletin board. Can you see any of these links or do you need a special work around link for geriatric uncs?https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPM19AbEXxy/https://x.com/kbdznxawyu/status/1973156735432180050
>>64336527>i dont know what to get besides the things /hg/ shills to me
>>64337100You're bragging about being terminally online I got a job.
>>64337100Can you type like a normal person?
>>64337127>>64337146The kinda hystrionic vibes y'all given off baka.
>>64337157>bakaOh no no no no no
>>64337100>gay PSR faggot>tranny shark pfp posting video Yeah I know who’s side to take. Ben’s
>>64337100So he got into an argument with a woman? With out context this doesn’t mean anything.
>>64337207>>64337223>>64337229>/hg/ lord and savior Ben Stoeger is filmed having an absolute schizophrenic BPD-male melty>/hg/ just copes hardI expected as much desu.
>>64337278>Ben stoeger is misogynistic and you must all disavow him immediately Do you know how crazy you sound? We don’t care. I think giving them the right to vote was the biggest mistake ever made in American history. Sorry we all like Ben Stoeger for his informative content, not sorry about his views on women and people who pretend to be women
>>64337346OMG, you weren't able to watch the videos were you? Kek, you got cockblockdded my normie social media sites? You're patheic. Ben sounds absolutely insane, screaming that he invented logic and that this poor woman myst affirm his delusions. He is having a hysterical meltdown and the fact that you think it's macho or whatever shows what a hole in your absentee father left. It has nothing to do with soggy knees whatever incel battlecry your clinging to this week. They guy sounds unhinged and cringe. Not role model material, kiddo.
>>64337373t. Malding logiclet
>GUYS THE POOPOOPEEPEEMAN DID SOMETHING>What>HOW DO YOU INCELS NOT KNOW ARENT YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO POOPOOPEEPEEMAN 24/7? I KNOW YOU GUYS LOVE HIM HERE
>>64337278?All I’m asking is for context
>>64337278You’re no different than a 40 year old woman obsessively reading TMZ about celebrities that don’t care about her.
Guys who is Ben Stoeger, I don’t watch Youtube, why are you all obsessed like this is an episode of the View? Like literally who cares?
>>64337475>t. shootlette
>>64337475Ask PX4 anon.
>>64327840Went to LGS/Smith and they said I could MAYBE alter one of the old 21A mags to catch, but I'm not so sure, due to the 20x frame being larger. I purchased a couple of steel mags from grabagun that said OEM, and am gonna test them both a bunch to see how they sit. The polymer mags from Beretta that came with the gun will jiggle or shift just a bit even when it's fully in place, and in fact, inserting it all the way doesn't cause it to catch, and I have to give it a little love tap on the bottom to keep it from sliding out. Hoping the steel ones don't have the same issue! If not I think I may buy a third and do some surgery on it to see if I may be able to convert it into being 6 or 7 round and flush versus 8 with the pinky grip. Also sad to see all the wood grips for the 20x/30x are sold out everywhere, and no one is offering any aftermarket options anywhere... If any anons have shops or craftsmen they like to go to for custom wood/steel grips, I am open to suggestions.
>>64337517>you don’t know about gay ecelebs heh you must not shoot
>>64337536>he thinks Ben Stoeger is an eceleb Tell me you're an unserious handgun shooter without saying your an unserious handgund shooter. Did you ever evolve past gunsoomer to become gunshooter? If you did, you'd know who he is, fucking faggot.
>>64337607I’m sure he’ll suck your dick when he sees this post bro.
>>64330555P365 xl and xmacro have different return springs than p365 and are ratedso no, he won't.
>>64337607imagine being a serious handgun shooter lmao
>>64337637I meant to say rated at a much higher round count by sig.
>>64337623Spend more time studying and training and less time fantasizing about gay sex. On your path to improvement, you will quickly discover who Ben Stoeger is. Also, not knowing who he is while posting here screams "newfag", so there's that too. Lurk moar, newfag.
>>64337607Surely a serious handgun shooter such as yourself has proof of your dedication? Let’s see some times and targets mister nut gargler.
>>64337637>>64337646>by Sig
>>64337654Spend more time studying and training and less time fantasizing about gay sex, newfag.
>>64337524That guy is a weirdo that spent a solid month seething over a certain poster in another general.
>>64337649Yeah I shoot every week, and I still don’t know who he his, maybe you should shoot too instead of hero worshiping literal who e-celebs.
>>64337660Hey I’m not the one rushing in like a fan girl to defend a man that’s you buddy. Maybe hit the range instead of forming parasocial relationships with youtubers?
Does anyone have nice things to say about the 509c Tactical? Want something closer sub compact size rather than all the micros on the market right now so I can use it on my nightstand as well
>>64337670>>64337688Lurk moar, newfag.
>>64337694Lol that doesn’t work when I’ve been here since 09, you shoot more noguns, the Vitamin D and social interaction will do you good.
>>64337694You watch focustripp livestreams I can sense it.
>>64337667Pastebin is behaving no one but your own schizos is messing with him.
>>64337718That doesn’t change anything I just said.
>>64337667I didn’t do that, I only made 10 posts tops. After 8 months of abuse it was warranted But post some guns, if you’re so much better than us. Run the qualifier
>>64337701Ofc you have. Ur legion !!>>64337710Literally who?
>>64336563Was the ramjet worth it and did it cause any malfunctions with weaker ammo
>>64335959Oh no no lil benny, lost our temper again? Maybe some free Sig Sauer products will make you feel better....oh wait...>>64337100>Print Suck Repeat saying "The Ben Stoeger video" Ironic
>>64337110first time hearing about a recommendation, you fuckin autistic incel faggot?
>>64336709They're really not a good value for the price.
>>64336709I saw a picture of one where the whole breech face broke and fell off from dry firing
>>64336086S&w has bad QC, and if you want a S&W tiny gun the Shield plus is much more proven. The masada is a FCU serialized thing so you can get a ton of fun modules like the mischeif machining 1911 module for it if you get bored, and the hellcat pro (and pro comped) doesnt shoot any better groups in my hands than the standard regular shmegular micro hellcat. (Left group 509c, right group hellcat pro)Go with the masada. Fuck isreal but I also don't support china and just bought a north taiwan airfryer. Sometimes you gotta buy the best product for you.
>>64336086just get a P365 or a G43 dude
>>64337693I carry my FN 509c, it's on my hip right now actually. I love it, something like 15-16k rounds through it at this point without a gun related failure. The grip texture glues itself to your hand while you shoot making it really fast and flat shooting. I love that it comes with 3 different size mags which continue the grip texture, meaning you get a full size, compact, and subcompact in one gun right out of the box. The finish is also top notch, a gunsmithing group im in on facebook had a gun drop his in a lake and fish it out after a year, and the slide didn't have a bit of rust on it.I cannot reccomend this gun enough.
>>64337921What’s your response to everyone shitting on the trigger? One of the reasons I got rid of my 365 was it was just too small in my hands and I couldn’t hit shit with it. The other was I hated the trigger and seeing people report the same complaints with the 509CT has me concerned
I shoot the g43x better than every sub compact I’ve tried
>>64337891How significant is the difference between the regular hellcat pro and the pro comped?
>>64337526Good luck, Beretta seems to hate the people who buy their pocket guns. Handgun hero makes it look like the 21a mag would be long enough for the 20x (I don't know if it's as thick as the 20x mag though. If it is you'd have to file out the square mag catches that are on the front of the 20x mag as they moved the mag release from the bottom rear to the middle of the front.
>>64337921>my mags have different grip extensions so actually i have 3 guns in oneno, you have a subcompact that fits the hand awkwardly and has the gayest cerakoting I've ever seen. we already determined that grip extensions are mostly a cope with the subcompact glocks. one slightly larger than necessary grip > 3 different modular ones that are constantly changing.
>REVEALED: BEN STOEGER YELLS AT WOMAN, USES N-WORD IN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTSwtf I love Stoeger now?
https://leadandsteel.co/shop/pandora-pb-3-micro-red-dot-sight/Anyone have experience with these? Based on the price, I'm guessing chinesium, but that's a non-issue if they're at least passable.
>>64337961NTA, but I have the precursor FNS9C which I like a lot. People who shit on the trigger are probably being snobs about it. It's fine, better than the stock G34.5 trigger, but worse than the VP9 and P10. I thought it was a bit too heavy of a pull, so I added some reduced weight MCARBO springs to mine and I have no complaints about it anymore.
>>64338102I'm only aware of them because they issued a C&D against a semi-prominent youtuber (FocusTripp, who is a fag but w/e) for having bad things to say about one of their products.
>>64337891I shot the hellcat rdp, which should just be a regular hellcat but with tacticool stuff, and I didn't like the position of the mag release.Hellcat pro doesn't have me paying attention to not accidentally press it.
>>64337919these were maybe the best 7 years ago, but the market has moved on.
>>64337657Lol I'm not sig but the low round count for the springs is for the regular p365 only. It uses entirely different springs than the other ones. I'm not defending sig at all, they are shit, but the spring issue only applies to the regular p365.
What belts do you guys like?
>>64338152I respectfully disagree. My TRS in my P365XL gave up the ghost at about 4k rounds. My Armory Craft replacement is doing okay, but probably only has about 1k on it.
>>64338169diapers
>>64338205Are tactical diapers good for a p320?
>>64337961I really like the trigger, it has a very defined wall and not a lot of overtravel. Since that other FNS anon brought it up I prefered it over the CZ p10 I shot side by side with my buddy because of those things but he prefered his CZ P10 trigger because it was lighter. We both agreed they were both great triggers though. If you end up not liking it Apex makes a GREAT aftermarket trigger for it. Why not go finger fuck one in a store and see what you think?>>64337990I felt a small difference, but my groups were the same across all the versions of the hellcat I tried back to back at that rental range (flat fee, infinite swaps is a awesome policy). And that included fast fire groups as well. So while I feel like the comped pro version is softer shooting and easier to manage than the hellcat micro, I didn't get any better results to prove it. Your milage may vary since everyones hands and grip are different.>>64337975The g43x is a microcompact, not a subcompact.>>64338041No other subcompact comes with compact and full size extensions out of the box. The mags extend the grip texture and make it very seemless compared to mashing a g17 mag into a g26. There is nothing cope about a full size grip being easier to shoot with vs a subcompact grip, or that the subcompact grip is easier to conceal. As for awkward fitting, it fits my size large hands perfectly with the subcompact 12 rounder in.
>>64338234>>64338041Heres a pic of my 509c side by side with his p10c. Why don't you post a pic of the 509c you shot to prove you have first hand expirence on this subject and aren't just speaking out of your ass based on reddit post you read
I need to go shooting.Maybe next weekend
>>64338240ohh, you coming in to defend your boyfriend's gun, bitch? fuckin pussy ass piece of shit, you're absolutely pathetic.
>>64337961I hope you can see by >>64338271 post that the people who are critical of the 509c aren't exactly rational actors you should be basing your firearms purchasing decision on.Go and try and finger fuck one yourself, or even better call around and find a rental range around you that offers one. I think you will be impressed.
>>64338128What surpasses the 365? To me it looks like other companies have caught up to it rather than passed it up.
>>64338357Honestly for me the Shield Plus feels like a great upgrade.I might just build a new P365 from scratch at this point
Is it safe to say smith and wesson is garbage in current year?
>>64338401Nah.
What's the best small 22lr pistol out there? The LCP22 sucks ass, but is there anything else out there that's similar, but not shit? I've already got a Beretta 21a, but the lack of an extractor freaks me out.
>>64338234The CSX e-series has the option to be differently-sized with grip extensions, and you can get and use them with the bigger mags in the original CSX line. There's even a longer slide version now
Sucks that’s there’s not a gun in 9mm as cool and good as the USP in .45.
>>64338399The icarus precision frame IS fantastic if you can hold your nose and not throw up at the price point>>64338401M&P 2.0 is retardedly reliable, the Shield plus is the best micro compact I've tried of the 8 or so I've tried, and the BG 2.0 is the best 380 pistol I've shot. The issue is the QC doesn't match the designs.
>>64337100>man has relationship issues>HEY GUYS LETS RUIN HIS CAREER AND DESTROY HIS FINANCIAL FUTURE BECAUSE HES A BAD BOYFRIENDfucking retarded woman logic
>>64338470There's a USP in 9mm>>64338401I will die for my country, the CSX. It's everything I wanted from the market. I forgot if the CZ Rami sucks, even though it got discontinued I'd still like to find one some day. The CSX would be even cooler if we could get DA/SA versions, and I'd be cool with it being a bigger size to accomodate the extra internals. Can someone measure the front sight post on the CSX? I'd like to get a Dawson fiber front for it, since the front is an M&P sight, though the rear is proprietary and I don't think anyone's made a specific sight for the gun yet
>>64338472>The issue is the QC doesn't match the designs.That's what I meant if the QC is terrible it doesn't matter how good the design is it's garbage
>>64338401I think the only gun company (besides the obvious) that I have a severely negative opinion is Sig because of how they're literally putting American lives at stake through their Jewish faggotry. People hate S&W but I and nobody I know have ever had any issues and if you call their customer service you get an actual white American which is rare as fuck these days.
>>64338479Hopped up on HRT logic*
>>64338461The CSX-e is a microcompact, a size defined by a thinner than full size frame as well as a smaller than compact package while sporting 10-12 rounds. The 509c with the 12 round mag in is a subcompact like the g26, which is as thick as a regular full size pistol just with a shorter grip. Both have their advantages, subcompacts are heavier and bulkier which helps make them eaiser to shoot and less flippy than a microcompact, but also harder to carry and conceal. You can pocket carry a 365 for instance, but the FN 509c would be unrealistic to pocket carry.The proliferation of microcompacts that are still thin but also full size demensions in other aspects is a great thing for the market. I really liked the Sig Fuse I shot, and I'm glad there are more higher capacity but still concealable options on the market
I only own Glocks, I want a Glock 19 but am reconsidering and want to expand and get a 1911, Beretta, or S&W. What would you fellas recommend and why?
Beretta has the worst customer service on earth bar none. Four (4) fucking months to fix a brand new 1301.
>>64338470The Beretta 92
>>64338479>>64338509STFU faggots. Ben Stoeger invented logic. Admit it! Admit Ben Stoeger invented logic and that you loved his content at first sight!>>64338513Sir/Ma'am, that's not a handgun.
>>64338513Story?
>>64338512For the 1911 get a tisas, they run around $300 if you order online and you get that absurdly nice 1911 trigger for 1/2 the price of the competition while still making a product arguably better than springfield. Glock sucks at making good tiny guns because Gaston got addicted to polymer coating their mags for some reason, so if you're getting a S&W why not get a Bodyguard 2.0 or Shield plus to fill that niche? As for berreta, there are other anons with far more experience with them who dan reccomend you. I generally don't like em.
>>64338519>Sir/Ma'am, that's not a handgun.The point still stands. Their CS sucks. Nobody picks up the phone and it takes them a week to respond to emails. Fuck them with a rusty rake.>>64338523>brand new gun sporadically gets a dead trigger>took them 4 months to fix itThat's it.
>>64338512Before you buy any gun, you have to ask what it's for. Home defense? Concealed carry? Range toy? I would recommend a metal hammer-fired gun to juxtapose the Glonks. Just look up the guns in the m9 trials and lock one of those. I recommend the 92FS but you can't go wrong with any of them
>>64338532You were probably limp wristing, faggot. Beretta is /hg/ approoved, especially when filled with LTT internals.
>>64338540I'll try harder not to limp wrist a shotgun next time. I love the PX4 cc2 it has been a great gun. I just hope I never have any issues with it and have to wait an eternity to have it fixed like with my 1301.
>>64338528i've been meaning to get one of these. $300ish for a functioning 1911 is so crazy
>>64338528If I was gonna go with a 1911 I would go with something higher quality, price isn't a big issue I'm just not ready to drop $3000 on a handgun yet. I've had Glocks for years and finally am ready to expand my collection
>>64338459>The LCP22 sucks assSource? BEST? Who knows, maybe it depends on your definition of small, a TX22 Compact is probably going to run circles around anything teenyI'm enamored with my Ounce for a lot of reasons but the relevant one would be its reliability across a wide range of ammunition power levels, almost everything from 850 fps to 1,700 fps. I also just got a S&W 2214, I do not have anywhere near enough rounds through to judge its reliability but so far it beats my 21A which chokes on CCI SV cause its not fast enough>>64338401Why do you want to believe negative crap you read on the internet so badly? S&W is top 10 maybe top 5 of the big manufacturers, they're great
>>64338538I'm looking for all of the above
>>64338563Well, this is completely subjective but >Home defense Just use an SBR or SBS. I'm not a big fan of handguns for home defense because the only advantage of a handgun is concealment and I don't need that on my own house >Range toyI would get either a nice, big revolver in .44 Magnum or get a Ruger mk IV with a suppressor for some relaxing plinking>Concealed carry Either grab a .38 special like the S&W air weight model 642 or the /hg/-approved Beretta PX4 Compact Carry 2
Ben has returned.
>>64338618...ok?
>>64338618basedfoids and nons won't keep our boy down
Dumb question but beretta centurion frames take regular 92 mags, no? Are they flush fit with the 20’s and legacy 15rd mags?
>>64338636>our boyYeah so about that...
>>64338510My bad. I've never even seen a 509c and I only compared my CSX to the Heckcat. My CSX was a little smaller, and pocket carry works really well with it. I admittedly thought they were all the same size.>>64338512Which Glongs do you already have? Which calibers? Compatibility is cool to have>>64338651Yes Centurions take fullsize mags but have a compact frame, it's their thing. The center of balance is much better imo, though the Compacts are my favorite from a weight standpoint and that it's still pretty big. I'm not sure about your mag question, I apologize
>>64338693I meant to say "slide" instead of "frame"
I respect Ben Stoeger's skill but keep your fucking eceleb glazing/drama out of the thread
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>>64338696HE INVENTED LOGIC YOU IDIOT WOMAN. ADMIT THAT HE INVENTED LOGIC!
>>64338618She's never guna make it with that Hank Hill ass.
>>64338693I think you answered it. Basically they take standard 92 mags. I have a bunch of the older 15rd mags so I was curious if they’d fit flush with the frame or stick out a bit
>Ben Stoeger once saidReddit is that way.
>>64338768I think Reddit are the trannies trying to cancel him for raising his voice at a woman, actually.
>>64337100How do I know that isn't AI? You can't make him out in the video. This "person" also doesn't seem to be a trustworthy source either.>>64338512Go to the local gun shop, hold a bunch of guns and get what feels the best once you've researched it to make sure there aren't any deal breaker issues.
>>64338771The guy is clearly unhinged and abusive. Is anyone really surprised?>>64338783>untrustworthySomeone reporting truthful information that you don't like or that makes you look bad doesn't make them untrustworthy. You're just being a prissy little bitch.
>>64338823>it's "abusive" and "unhinged" to raise your voice at a womankek, sorry brownoid, but I really don't give a shit what a firearms instructor says to a scottsdale hooker at 3 AM
>>64338823lol We don’t care. Practical Shooting Insights would be named after the person running it if they had any skill or name. It’s probably some tranny who’s trying to invade the competitive shooting scene
>>64338849PSI made a splash in 2022 trying to cancel various members of the USPSA board. He's a grifter trying to get elected to Area rep.
The competitive shooting scene seems like a hotbed of womanly drama and big egos. Feels good to just enjoy shooting for fun.
It's very relieving to know that Stoeger yells at bimbo prozzies. I was starting to think he's gay.
>>64338847>t. can't watch the video unc>>64338849>evsrything I don't like is tranniesDo you autistic manbabies have anything else?>>64338863Fr. Bob Vogel has CP charges pending against him for a sxual relationship with a minor he was feeding alcohol to.If he becomes a convicted felony and sex offender, he won't be allowed to touch a handgun ever again. It's unironically over for him.
>>64338878True. Him and Joel Park being in the same videos seemed kind of gay
>"unc">"manbabies"Yeah, it's a brownoid tranny. As expected.
>>64338879We don’t need anything else since it’s usually true. They’re over represented in every group that is bad.
>>64338892>>64338896>trannies trannies trannies tranniesAnons, we were discussing Ben Stoeger being a deranged lunatic who was abusing some woman. >>>/lgbt/ is that way.
>>64338783pffffttttttttTHIS is the fag trying to cancel Stoeger? "They're saying mean things on Discord!!!!"lmao
>>64338914What's wrong with raising your voice at a woman? Moreover, why would a firearms instructor raising his voice at a woman be an issue for me? How would that invalidate his material?
I have a question so I'm waiting for the next thread
>>64338922So you admit Ben Stoeger invented logic and that you loved him at first sight? FUCK YOU! DO IT DO IT DO IT NOW! SAY IT AND YOU HAVE IT! SAY IT!>inb4 you start crying like a scared and confused little bitch
>>64338977I admit that I love Ben more than I love any tranny from instagram trying to cancel him for yelling at a prostitute. It's true.
>>64338977I can’t wait for Ben’s video, he’s going to rip this practical shooting insights guy(?) to shreds
>>64338995Is the tranny in the room with you right now, anon?>>64339004Are you kidding? He won't say anything about it. He'll ignore it and hope it goes away. He doesn't sound drunk in the video. He legit sounds schizophrenic and abusive. The best be could hope for is for people to forget about it. Ironic considering he loves talking about drama.
>>64339016No, but the tranny is in the 4chan thread whining about Ben Stoeger's yelling at a whore while trying to prop up PSI's crusade against mean things being said about Jews and women on Discord. I think he's you, actually. Post groups, faggot.
>>64338693Totally understandable, it's a really common misconception because subcompacts became less popular just as stuff like the Shield plus, Hellcat, CSX ect exploded in popularity. Compared to the FN 509c in subcompact form the CSX is about 1/4" thinner in both frame and slide and about 6oz lighter which makes it much easier to pocket carry. That being said the sig 365 and to a lesser extent the hellcat are the only micro compacts I think really are made for pocket carry
>>64338557>price isn't a big issueIf price isn't your primary factor than the Tisas probably isn't for you, you should be looking at stuff like Dan Wesson, Sigs, or if you don't mind an external extractor the S&W 1911 is great from what I hear but haven't had personal hands on experience with.>>64338553Yeah it's the best of the budget 1911s and is all forged which is cool because springfield hasn't managed that. Some folks have had good expirences with RIA but my buddies RIA sucked ass so much he gifted it to his Dad because the guy shoots 3 mags a year and was just excited to own "the WW2 gun". Taurus 1911s are also pretty dismally bad, a heroin addict I used to play Magic The Gathering with in West Virginia owned one and it was gritty and unreliable.Tisas makes a great budget pistol, but it's still a budget pistol and if you want and can afford a $1,200 option instead get that.Oh and fuck Barrell whiskey in general their prices are high and their whiskey sucks
>>64338561I have an LCP2 is is incapable of extracting duds or unfired cartridges by racking the slide. It absolutely does suck ass. I even sent it to ruger, they just shot a box of ammo through it and said it's fine and didn't even comprehend the actual issue. It's a known issue, but Ruger seems to think there is nothing wrong with having a non-functioning extractor on a gun advertised as a carry option for people with weak hands. . .
I must say, it's a little weird how you tell the agent provocateur faggot to post groups and he just disappears like a fart in the wind. Could it be that he isn't an actual shooter, and is just a reddit tourist? Really makes you think...
>>64339039>Oh and fuck Barrell whiskey in general their prices are high and their whiskey sucksthe "aged in super special barrels" shit is a meme. lookin' at you Angels Envy
>>64339098The guy posting ben stoeger?
>>64339113No, the girl complaining about him.
>>64339031You sound like a Democrat the way you think everybody transgender now. Do you even have a single FRT? Let me guess, you live in a cuck state and seeing all the fun I'm-- I mean PSR is having with FRTs must be really triggering for you. Triggered fucking libtard can't even admit Ben Stoeger invented logic. Fuck outta here.
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>>64339124So you’re not gonna post groups, then?
>>64339136You first.
>>64339136Yeah post holes, faggot, and your FRTs too. You can shoot and you do have FRTs, don't you? You're not actually a tranny brained libcuck, riiiight?
>the video that destroyed /hg/'s god>>>/wsg/5986109
>>64337756I enjoy shooting it, no malfunctions to note of, but I also from the get go put in a 15lb guide rod spring from NDZ performance.Shoots softer and with less muzzle flip than a normal g17 or 19 comparably with standard 115 or 124 g ammo
Man I’m going to have to buy more Ben books and catch a class next time he’s here
>>64339139Your turn!
>>64339180Distance?
The silence is deafening, the absence overwhelming!
>>64339180Now admit that Ben Stoeger invented logic. Once you admit it you have it too. He invented it. You can't win ever. FUCK YOU! DO IT DO IT DO IT NOW!
Still nothing! Who could have foreseen this?
>can't admit that Ben Stoeger invented logic>can't admit he was in love with Ben at first sight>can't post a single FRT he owns>inb4 trannies
>>64339209I admit it. Stoeger invented logic. He invented floaty thumbs. He invented avoiding sympathetic trigger finger movement. He invented proactive vision control/dot return. He invented all of it.I knew I loved him at first sight. I also knew you were never going to post groups :)
>>64339224NOW YOU HAVE IT TOO!
>Practical Shooting Insights attempts to have the competition [Vogel] canceled over a nothing burger>leftists and chronic baiters signal boost the video on /hg/>immediately flagged as noshootz>simply double down or pivot after being confronted with actual groups
I meant Stoeger, not Vogel
Did we really expect the leftoid to be able to post groups? Did we really expect the leftoid to post evidence that he knew what he was talking about? Did we really expect the leftoid to have any leg to stand on? Did we really expect the leftoid to not deflect at every turn, because he knows he's overmatched?
you still haven't posted groups btw xd
>>64339233Vogel literally has sexual relations with minors and Ben is clearly an abusive jerk. Neither of these should come as a surprise to anyone even remotely familiar with either.>>64339243You're the Democrat who hates freedom and FRTs and and can't shut up about how everybody transgender now.
>>64339255>Ben is clearly an abusive jerkMarriage counseling issue, not my problem
you still haven't posted groups btweveryone sees you deflecting btwthe personal lives of jewtubers don't really matter to me btw
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>>643392728 yards is what he usually posts but he scored a 298/300 in the Op qualifier
>>64339255>Vogel literally has sexual relations with minorsIf they look like Chel, I don't blame him
>>64339272It was 12y. I'm sure you'll be posting lots of great stuff in the coming thread, right?
>>64339331>he needs to handicap himself to 12 yards instead of the specified 25 yardsIs it because your west coast range doesn't allow you the freedom to shoot at your desired distance? Or are you just an insecure hack?
Lancaster anon, I too have a question but am waiting for the next thread.
>>64339344I shot at 25 to do that test, bud. I understand you’re never, ever going to (truthfully) post groups, but at least you could stop shitting up our threads. Thanks!
>>64339373Now I see why you're so buttmad about PSR and FRTs. You live in a cuck state and will never (ever) have one lol. Sucks to be you. At least you admitted that Ben Stoeger invented logic and that you loved him at first sight.
>>64339395I accept your concession.
>>64339407I don't listen to glocksuckers.
you also don't post groups LOL
new>>64339443>>64339443
Instead of FRTs he just has trannies. So sad.
>>64339369Hell yeah man, wish I was able to pay for your dinner at Duly's Place
>>64339243
>>64339097That's gay. Does anybody like VQ make a nice sharp extractor for it that might fix the proberlm?
I want to play a game... You have one langdon trigger bar, but two berettas. Do you save the lowly 92fs in time or do you save the centurion compact with a manual safety? You have 15 minutes to decide their fate.
>>64339689Wouldn’t the FS also have a manual safety? What’s the difference
>>64339782I was out riding my bike. The 92FS has a g conversion installed. No safety. The centurion was a 92d but will be frame safety modded soon.
>>6433990892Dwho's doing the conversion? Allegheny Arms, PA? That's where the first trump shooter bought the ammo
>>64339936Yeah, they were my backup ffl for a while. No complaints besides them losing a m2 for a week, lol. DIdn't know shooter got ammo there, but not surprising. It gets a lot of traffic and you'd have awkward people in there all the time.
you still haven't posted groups btw
>>64333252>For more than the price of a Glock you can have a shitty PSA glock clone! Now with TiNi!
