/msg/ - Military Surplus GeneralFuddy Fiev EditionPost any stuff.Thread question: What are you reloading for this week, Anon?Previous Thread: >>64290700
>>64353209If my crypto moons I’m buying a 1921 Thompson.
>>64353252>if
>>64353252>bitcoin up 5x from last crashMissed my chance again. Oh well
>>64353209>What are you reloading for this week, Anon?make a few more 25gr vs the 27gr Lee Navy loads to test out a lighter charge.Also doing more research and tooling up for 577/450.
>>64353252>he is about to redeem le thompson?dump eet
>>64353607It’ll be $1M by 2030
>>64353252>If my cryptoHAHAHAHAHAHA!
i typically post on /pmg/ but figure you fags would enjoy this too.
>>64354571Based.>>64353252>cryptoLittle faggot
>>64353252based retard.
Indians think crypto is a good thing so intrinsically the only logical conclusion is that crypto is a bad thing
>>64354555>pic cringe
/msg/- military surplus and financial theoretics
>>64354616>crypto Jewish and GAY
>>64354625This is an upperclass hobby now, unfortunately. It’s going to be involved in upperclass discussions. I hate that 91/30s are $500 now.
>>64353209I promised myself I wouldn't but anymore guns but a m96/38 for $500 is tempting me. Should I do it bros? I used to have a m96 but sold it years ago.
Why is silvers increase so low relative to gold, gents?
>>64354432What will cause crypto and milsurp to crash again so I can help perpetuate that?
>>64354695Come ask on >>>/biz/pmg
>>64354704Beg Blackrock to short BTC and ETH. Beg America, Russia, and China to fight a massive war so we can get postwar cheapies after the conflict.
>>64354714>cheapiesDude. If WWIII happens crypto is going to zero and precious metals are going past the Moon and into the next galaxy.
>>64354571Ah, a fellow /pmg/ enjoyer. I missed the Aputania but I got two of the WAGMIs. One day I'll get a pic of my soviet coins on my mosin.
>>64354704milsurp will never crash as hard as we'd like it. But maybe eastern block imports again at some point and then the boomer die off will move the needle slightly, but never ever going back to $99 mosins.
>>64354722Why do metalfags think it’s a competition?
>>64354705Alright I’m back. Apparently it’s the Jews again.
>>64354555>>64354571>>64354673>>64354723Can a bunch of Nazi coins buy me a house off of 10 years of investment/growth?
>>64354722If WW3 happens you won’t be allowed to own it again and by that I mean you won’t be able to buy it anymore and you will run into online counterfeiters more often than not.
>>64354714This all sounds beneficial to hebrews and, thus, detrimental to me, as per usual. No thank you. Any one think outside the box here?
Threads cursed so I guess lets talk which surp you spent the most on.
>>64354782Loogah
>>64354782All of them.
>>64354743Generally people who get defensive about their purchases have some remorse or regret.
>>64354782>lets talk which surp you spent the most on.Pic related. $1833 after shipping and theft.
>>64354753>allowedIn upstate NY a man shot an IRS agent with an M1 rifle. The only shame is that the IRS didn't send 7 more agents, as the M1 holds 8 rounds.
>>64354822>trading fiat for real money is a "purchase"
>>64354782$2k on a garand.it's not my most valuable milsurp though.i got a 1942 luger for i think 1500 and inhereted my great great grand uncle's 1911 from WWI.
>>64354743Why do milsurp fags think it's a competition?
>>64354911>$2kHopefully there was something about this rifle that earned that pricetag?
>>64354985it was my first and i didnt know any better because i didnt do any research.
>>64354905Fantastic but unless he shit out gold upon being killed like we were in an MMORPG, most people won’t do that especially gold sellers. And we’re much less based than we were last time the gov did it.
>>64354995Oh Jesus how long ago was that? I see cabelas trying that number now and I’m in a shit gun State.
>>64355002Fedboi, you have a name and addressDo does your family
>>64355011i was in connecticut, freshly got my gun loicenses, and wouldnt you know it at a cabelas. also it was during peak covid freakout.
>>64355035This can only be even close to excusable by being born after 9/11. Anon?
>>64355026 Listen retard. My point is shooting ATF bots will not suddenly make machine guns available in your LGS, but for gold
>>64354782$4k is the most I dropped on a single thing. But the most I overpayed was probably $450 for a type 99 with mum and AA sights. seller didnt know it was a duffle cut, so when I took it apart when I got home I felt slightly mad.
Been meaning to get a pic of my M1C and M1 Carbine together. Only other surp I own is a Romanian M44
>>64353209Hey, that's my photo.
Ive finally added a Garand to my collection. Blew $1800, got a bunch of clips too.
This one was post war, put together in 1955. Now for a nice, slow, teardown...
>>64353607If you're only buying it to dump it you might as well rob a bank, it's easier, faster, and hurts the bank. Just wear a simple disguise and hand the teller a note, their policy is to just hand it over to get rid of you.
>>64355164>>64355166Welcome to the club. Now you must make the pilgrimage to the Talladega range.
>>64355200>Radom and Steyr>No Waltherforgot the theme anon
Many many years ago I picked up one of those nickel plated yugoslavian tokarevs. My understanding is that they were handed out as ceremonial retirement gifts. If that's the case, then mine belonged to a fellow named Čeda Latinčic that retired in 1978.Anyone else have one of these or similar? I didn't get lucky with my K31, so this remains the only surp where I (might) know the name of the previous owner.
>>64355304>Čeda LatinčicYeah I like Latin chicks too
>>64355200>no WaltherAnon there's a G.43.
>>64355268Walther is right there between the Stg44 and the MG34. Also, if you look in the back you will see a 1911A1 in an ammo can.
>>64353209Reloading nothing, carving my own rear upper handguard and rear half of the front handguard of a No. 1 MK III to graft to the remaining section. Was going to go with English walnut but I was going to pay about half of my rifle's value (which isn't much lol) for a small slab of it if I went that route. Used Black Walnut instead and somehow it seems it will end up being too light, go figure. I'll just have to boil some walnuts and stain the new wood to match. Actually thought I was going too dark at first.>>64354691I missed buying 91/30s when guys would bring them out for sale with all their accessories still sticky with cosmoline sitting in the summer sun. Yet not too long ago I bought a fucking Type 99 for like $120 needing somewhat minor work and I just bought a .410IM No. 1 MK III needing work (handguard, bolt, cleaning, refinish) for ~$80 that's getting a conversion to be a .410 shotgun and I'll probably be in it for less than $400 all in, including gunsmithing work. Hell of a market we have these days; I'm just very stingy about gun prices these days and I get stuff slow unfortunately, but at least I do find some good deals.>>64354782SKS ironically; I'm a cheap bastard and I refuse to pay retarded prices.>>64355035Their prices on M1 Garands and Carbines are crack-smoking-tier. Seriously, who the fuck buys them? Those rifles being in the "gun cave" (fancy $$$ gun room) behind glass says a lot about what they thing they can get for them.
>>64355449>>64355523You silly bastards. You know what I meant by my green arrow context. And yes I saw the 2 World War Winner in the back can
>>64354782$2500 on a Weimar Simson made Luger. Though I see future acquisitions being more expensive judging by the current wishlist.
CMP garands are truly done this time aren’t they
>>64357475Maybe they’ll crash in price and I can buy one to rebarrel for 8mm mauser
>>64354571>>64354723You see, I’m larping both sides, so that I always get sent to the prison camp.
>>64353209The same thing I'm reloading for every week Pinky... 6.5 Jap Pinky and the Brain the Pinky and the Brain, one is a genious, the other's insane.
>>64357490>crash in priceThey’re shooting up to $3,000 the millisecond stocks completely dry up.
>>64357516kino.i need to get my eagles in this but that's gonna happen later in life.all my PMs are deep in storage.
>>64357475>Boomers once again their need to fuck over the younger generationsI don't understand why the fuck did the CMP allow people to purchase 8 a year for years, especially when you knew whose was constantly buying them to resell.
>>64353209/mobama/ attendee reporting for duty!
>>64358500Michelle Obama?
>>64357688CMP has wanted to get out of gun sales for a long fucking time.
>>64355193Ty. Got her stripped down as far as i could, got it re-cleaned and lubed. Presently putting it back together, while some .06 i prepped yesterday finishes in the tumbler.Ill need to scrounge up some more recent load data, a couple of the powders i was using arent available anymore. Havent done any serious reloads for several years. H380 was one, iirc.
>>64354782$1800 on a luxemburg fn49 with a sanded stock just to find a columbian and another lux in for $1000 at the gun show the week after purchase.
>>64358781>CMP has wanted to get out of gun salesThey've sure got a funny as fuck way of doing it since they are tooling up for the first M1 grand made in the USA out of actual new production parts since the 50s.I'll be buying one while people who don't even own garands cope about it not being a REAL historical piece all while the CMP is making history in supporting marksmanship and arguably has trained more people to shoot competently than the NRA at this point.
>>64355119Pardon my retardation, but why is $450 for a 99 with mum and AA sights a bad deal?
>>64358903See this is why I’ve held off on a Fn49. Huge price flux person to person. I’m just trying to start with a beat to shit Egyptian for a grand but I’d love a 7mm one for not $600 more
>>64359039BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY GET THEM FOR 60$ OUT THE CRATE STILL WRAPPED IN WAX PAPER AT SMITH AND SONS HUNTING STORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MONTGMERY WARDS. JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM MY COUSIN EDS APARTMENT COMPLEX.Robert "Bob" Barton-USMC 1982-1983-Brinks Security 1989-1999===========1979 Camaro2006 Taurus============"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Harriet TubmanSent from my Jitterbug via Tapatalk
>>64359039NTA but a duffel cut means it was cut down for a service member to put into his bag to bring back home, either didnt want to pay shipping or wasnt supposed to.
>>64359092Yeah I understand duffel cuts, but isnt that pretty common with intact mums?
>>64359039At the time (2016 money), that wouldve made it a $250 rifle. But I paid 450, which overall was still a bit much for the time even. That same table though, I bought a Carcano Cavalry carbine for $199.In today money a Type 99 like it and known duffle cut would probably be 600 on the same boomer table>>64359091this too
>>64359107>2016>$250>complaining that he paid 450Please, God, i want to go back!
>>64359113geezers used to plead to buy all surplus you possibly can because they sold Lugers by the barrel for 5$ some crazy shit like that but any case point is still made
>freedom boner intensifies>>64357688Itll be like boomers and their high dollar antiques. Bought low, supposed to sell high, but the markets flooding and prices are rock bottom.>>64358905Got a source for that? Last i heard there may or may not be some 1903s, 1917s, 1911s and Garands coming home from the Phillipines. This was about a decade ago, I live under a rock and its comfy af.
>>64359372Fuck, forgot my pic like the cocksucking faggot i am
Is surp 8x56R supposed to be vicious or am I just being a little bitch? It definitely was harsh on the shoulder out of my long rifle when shooting from the bench today.
>>64359446Get a load of this bitch guise
>>64359446Are you aiming for that shade stand or are you just Zimbabwean?
>>64359446Powerful cartridge + lightweight rifle + narrow buttplate = uncomfortable recoil. If the butt was flatter and wider or the rifle weighed a couple pounds more no-one would meme about 8x56R.
I want to go on a little adventure of going to local pawnshops and see if I can hit the jackpot, but I'm feeling like my expectations are too high and will end up being a waste of time just seeing cheap copy and paste ARs, has anyone found anything good at those places?
>>64359621>Are you aiming for that shade stand or are you just Zimbabwean?Obviously, I was practicing my volley fire.>>64359665>Powerful cartridge + lightweight rifle + narrow buttplate = uncomfortable recoil. If the butt was flatter and wider or the rifle weighed a couple pounds more no-one would meme about 8x56R.That makes sense, the narrow buttplate definitely felt like a jab with every shot. I can normally tank 8x57 in most Mausers but the recoil in the M.95 was a bit more than I was expecting. Thankfully, I didn't get a carbine in 8x56R, I think I can tame the 8x56R with some practice.
>>64360026its HIGHLY dependent on the overall market of surp in your local area. Its not a bad way to spend a Saturday, but as you said, go in with extremely low expectations and be pleasantly surprised and maybe bring home a power tool that may or not have been stolen out of someones truck
>>64360026Oh yeah. Best part is There’s no door price at a pawn shop. Just whatever gas you burn, but it does take consistency and lots of in-and-outs to hit the jackpot. I’ve found some of my favorite funs at hockshops, including milsurp. Some I’ve seen the past 5 years:>nuggets most common, still trying to sell them at lockdown prices unfortunately >nice yugos>a 96/11 I should have bought>a wartime p38>flawless m95 shorty>Portuguese Luger>Sks’s in shit chassis, easy swap back if you got wood furniture >1903 with odd bubba threadjob and nose>imperial mausers intact>1917s that are always butchered, (Unbutchered burgerenfield is my pawnfind white whale)>various bayosThat’s just milsurp im remembering. There’s cool old commercial funs that can be way more shootable. I’m in a shit state too. Gonna be even shittier next year. Fuckin Polis
>>64360026>has anyone found anything good at those places?Not in a decade. All the 02FFLs within a 50 miles radius of me stopped renewing.
Restoration is getting there. Used a new piece of Black Walnut (American) to recreate the old front handguard's rear end. New HG piece has a tongue that goes under the old HG piece. Old HG has a little bit of the inside barrel channel carved out to accept the tongue; they will be epoxied together permanently, probably using Acraglas for the first time (god help me). Seam is just in front of the barrel band and the tongue extends about 1.5" or so. Interestingly the old HG is almost orange inside when carved into, similar to the color spar varnished oak has. The rest of the stock needs degreasing to get it to that "grey" color of the HG as well as the forestock (which needs repair as well). Previewing the color I'll get with a coat of finish on it with alcohol, it seems it'll likely all turn brown; Black Walnut repairs will need to be stained with natural walnut before being coated to colormatch. The worst part is knowing I have a rear handguard clip waiting for me to make a rear handguard for it so I have to do this all over again; IIRC this took me about two separate days working for a couple hours at a time. Luckily that piece seems a lot more decorative/protective and the barrel channel isn't as detailed or demanding in its dimensions; probably way less important for accuracy. Then I need some replacement hardware which I don't think will be too hard and a bolt (fuck!). At that point, it's up to the gunsmith to not fuck everything up when they rechamber which is a bit scary.>Inb4 "bubba"410 IM is a dead cartridge, this is a bottom of the barrel $80 gun that didn't sell for ~30 years after import, it has a good 2-3" of pitting in front of the chamber, and I want a fucking .410 shotgun SMLE.
Oi /k/, question time:my k31 shoots very consistent groups when hot, like after 10-20 rounds im still in a 2 thumbs sized group at 120 yds.my k98s stay in a tight group for like 5-6 shots but the groups get 2x bigger when hot.not so good for competitions where 15 shots in 15 minutes are the rule, and one should stay below 2" group diameter to compete.any other rifles known to man which do not significantly shift the point of impact when shot hot?
>>64360220Universal background check states are fucking horrible for us. All the normies who find grandpa's M1 carbine in the closet sprint to collect $200 for it from a shop, only for it to be ludicrously marked up 'cause FFL's know they're the only legal option. My local area is awash in shitty AR builds and carry guns, so anything wood and steel is automatically deemed exquisitely rare. I have to make weekend trips out to "old rich folks who haven't price checked since the late 90's" territory to find any deals.
What's a jungle carbine (real one not bubba) going for these days?
>>64361968usually around the 400s depending on condition. maybe 5s
>>64360608Swede Mauser’s are really goodI was sighting in my sniper (which is just a converted M96) and was hitting like 3 inch groups 50 rounds in at 100m (keep in mind though I was adjusting the sighting every couple of rounds so it was a little skewed)
>>64353209On Saturday I finally got out and tested out some reloads for my M1 Garands and they functioned perfectly. It’s the first time I’ve been to the range in about a month. I’m typing this from the hospital. I got my gallbladder removed and a stent put in my main bile duct almost 4 weeks ago, and I’ve had 5 ER visits and 3 hospital admissions in the past month. I’ve had 2 blood infections since all this. So they pulled the stent out earlier today and I’m on IV antibiotics so hopefully this goddamn nightmare is over. Anyway, I used to use IMR-4064 for my 30-06 loads, but it’s drastic price increase and availability decrease made me explore other options. I settled on N135 due to its burn rate being really close to IMR-4064, and its cost being substantially cheaper. It worked just fine so I’ll be doing 30 cal ammo cans worth of reloads whenever I have time. On another personal note that’s pissed me off due to this hospital BS>our 3 week fall outage started yesterday at the plant I work at>was supposed to go to work and make double time all day, over $100 per hour>instead I was sick and admitted to the hospital>fuck my life >>64354023Neat. Good luck with the Lee Navy reloads. I have a dream one day to “steal” a Lee Navy from a local auction because nobody knows what it is. >>64354694Yeah. You know how good Swede Mausers are, so you should get another one. >>64354782I believe it was pic related. But it was a package deal with a bunch of ammo and a bayonet. I don’t remember exact cost, around $1700-$1800?>>64359446I believe it does have some stout recoil, though I’ve never shot surp 8x56r, just my own reloads which aren't quite as hot. But I mean you’re ahooting a 208 grain bullet which is quite a heavy bullet, and surp ammo is typically loaded fairly “hot.”
>>64353209On Saturday I finally got out and tested out some reloads for my M1 Garands and they functioned perfectly. It’s the first time I’ve been to the range in about a month. I’m typing this from the hospital. I got my gallbladder removed and a stent put in my main bile duct almost 4 weeks ago, and I’ve had 5 ER visits and 3 hospital admissions in the past month. I’ve had 2 blood infections since all this. So they pulled the stent out earlier today and I’m on IV antibiotics so hopefully this goddamn nightmare is over. Anyway, I used to use IMR-4064 for my 30-06 loads, but it’s drastic price increase and availability decrease made me explore other options. I settled on N135 due to its burn rate being really close to IMR-4064, and its cost being substantially cheaper. It worked just fine so I’ll be doing 30 cal ammo cans worth of reloads whenever I have time. On another personal note that’s pissed me off due to this hospital BS>our 3 week fall outage started yesterday at the plant I work at>was supposed to go to work and make double time all day, over $100 per hour>instead I was sick and admitted to the hospital>fuck my life >>64354023Neat. Good luck with the Lee Navy reloads. I have a dream one day to “steal” a Lee Navy from a local auction because nobody knows what it is. >>64354694Yeah. You know how good Swede Mausers are, so you should get another one. >>64354782I believe it was an AG-42B. But it was a package deal with a bunch of ammo and a bayonet. I don’t remember exact cost, around $1700-$1800?>>64359446I believe it does have some stout recoil, though I’ve never shot surp 8x56r, just my own reloads which aren't quite as hot. But I mean you’re shooting a 208 grain bullet which is quite a heavy bullet, and surp ammo is typically loaded fairly “hot.”
>>64363056>>64363063Jesus fuck sorry for the double post. I aborted a post to fix a grammar error, then it said I mistyped a captcha, then it said a duplicate file existed, so I changed the pic. My bad. Maybe I’m still loopy from the anesthesia.
Minty Polish m44 worth $500 before theft?
>>64364108>Minty Polish m44 worth $500 before theft?I paid the same for one that was less nicer condition, so I would say yeah.
>>64364172You’ve convinced me. Going back tomorrow. Fuck fuck fuck. Some other guy was looking at her. I gotta get her now. They had it as UNIDENTIFIABLE. FUCK fuck fuck. Need kurva nugget
>>64364213My philosophy is Cry once, Buy once, you can always resell it if you don't like it. That said if you missed out, the universal seems to slight you into an advantage and another one will show up sooner and probably cheaper. That's my 2 pennies, do whatever with them.
>>64364249I know I know I know. That’s a normal asking price for a wartime 91/30 in my area fuck fuck fuck what was I thinking. They have layaway. And an M57 for $350! Shit shit shit
>>64364272They just put the Tok out that day fuck! Fuck
>>64364249>>64364272I could have bought more and I didn't! I remember $99 Mosins and thinking they were an awesome deal! I wanted to buy more (a Tula, hex receiver, etc...) but people made fun of the one I had, called them garbage rods, and told me to save up for a $1000 AR-15 instead.
>>64364108Bro you should have just pulled up completed gunbroker auctions on your phone at the store to get an idea on price, then bought it because $500 for a nice Polish M44 is a fair price.
>>64364833I did! And my tired from work ass thought >well that’s not really a deal if gunbroker boomers are asking that priceFuck I’m stupid. I hope I get off work early. That store is a town over. Fuck she was a smoking hot blonde piece of ass too
>dick status: MUH55gn of hogdon superperformance, 165gn hornady sst, cci#200 primers. Only 16 rounds, what i got floating around. The DP clip has hornady ssts also, at 180gn.>>64360220Pawns can be a good place for surps, i got my bubba'd k11 (rechambered to 308) and a 1878 trapdoor... Its the real deal, far as i can tell. Prices can be wild, but you can haggle some.>>64360338>SMLEmah nigga. Which smelly? I dont lurk as often as id like.>>64363056Thats rough, got my fingers crossed for ya. What was your grouping like? I liked H380 for .06 and .303, but its hard to come by in my area.>>64364272>>64364326Fuck the haters, i love my garbage rod. Its a '25 Tula hex, arsenal matched. Came out of a crate with the pouch, sling, and cosmoline. Not even counter bored. Paid about $350 for it. Go get her, and love her tenderly.
>>64364914>Which smelly?No 1 MK III. Missing bolt, a screw or two, and all of the upper handguard except front half; the part in front of the rear sight is a hand made, hand fit repair I did over about two days. London Small Arms, IIRC a 1918. Converted to .410 Indian Musket in 1931, the magwell plugged with a wood block and a follower on top to act as a loading tray. Rear sight adjustment pinned in place. I'm getting it bored to .410 shotshell eventually; maybe I'll thread it and have (possibly) the only .410 SMLE threaded for chokes in the US and if not, almost certainly the only silenced 410 SMLE at least in the US if I do end up buying a 410 silencer. I don't really tend to permanently modify modify any gun made more than 20 years ago but considering they didn't sell for about 30 years after import and these are damn close to the worst examples, I'm making an exception for the barrel work so it's shootable without having to have an entire reloading setup. Stock was soaked in what I think is used motor oil considering the color it turned the wood and the smell.>I dont lurk as often as id like.Nah I only posted pics of this originally in the last /k/ Projects (or /k/ Create?) thread since we didn't have a /gsg/ (Gunsmithing General). First time posting this in /msg/. Unfortunately MK III parts are a little more uncommon than they were like 2-3 years ago and now it's the MK IV parts all over the place so I'm still looking. Might just say fuck it and lurk gun shows and flea markets for the parts. Can't exactly buy the parts outright even if they were cheap; I added up some costs for hunting this year and it's looking like $300 for what I "need" between tags and supplies, then possible ammo needs, then I'm thinking about putting together a new gun which comes to about $1k with possible additional costs/additions over the summer. So I'm stretching my money pretty fucking thin lol.
>>64364914And when I say bad, I mean BAD. What sucks more is that this is an original LSA stamped stock as well. Degrease, stock screw hole plug/redrill, Acraglas to reattach chip, and a re-coat in this stock's future. A lot of crumbly wood on this gun, especially when wet.
>>64364982>>64365002Hell yeah. My favorite in my collection is a 1917 No.1 Mk.3., BSA. Marks suggest it got a little time in the trenches then went to British India for a while. Shoots better than I do some days. Its been sported, but the barrel is intact. Im missing the screw in the cocking lever, the butt is original and the forgrip. The rest of the stock, the volley sights and mag cutoff are missing.. Someday ill not be a poorfag and be able to restore it. The bayonet will be a bitch tho, i want a p.1907 sword bayo without the quillion. If your woodwork js good, consider putting the plans up for enthusiasts.As I get older and my eyes fail, I turn more to optics for my funs. Gotta save my pennies and get a no drill rail for my smelly and nugget, never mind the scopes. One for my new Garand would be cool, but afaik it cant be done.
>>64365064Nice rifle, anon. Certainly better condition than mine lol.>The bayonet will be a bitch tho, i want a p.1907 sword bayo without the quillion.I just bought a knife bayonet I came across in person because my spike bayonet I remembered I had was for a MK IV. ...Aaaaand the knife bayonet is also for a MK IV because I'm retarded. It was $15 though and the blade is covered in cosmo.>As I get older and my eyes fail, I turn more to optics for my funs. Gotta save my pennies and get a no drill rail for my smelly and nugget, never mind the scopes. One for my new Garand would be cool, but afaik it cant be done.Surplus and old guns are the best and worst thing for me. I love old guns. However my eyes are shit for distance; despite being an avid small game hunter that can spot a grey squirrel on leaves and near grey treetrunks 60-70+ yards out, iron sights can be torture when I have anything but one of those massive shoot-n-see targets with a 4"x6" red center and I don't think I'll ever hunt small game with irons. Maybe deer with irons. I don't seem to do bad with irons at the range when I try but I feel so much more confident with a scope FWIW. That does mean I get to buy used D&T'd surp and old hunting rifles at a possible discount and use a scope of choice with no guilt, though.>scopesI tend to like the $300 Leupold scopes for their toughness and zero holding capability FWIW but even that price is a big ask at times when you really stretch thin on cash (ie. you just bought a gun, and ammo, and...). Their rings are dirt cheap, though (~$30) and they also work better than $30 rings ever should. And at that price they even have torque specs for the fasteners which is a LOT more than I can say about many other brands I have to throw a wild guess out for and hope I don't strip the chinesium-tier aluminum ring's threads.
>and spot squirrels on near-grey treetrunksNot spot squirrels NEAR the treetrunks. My lord I have a way with words.
>>64365064>If your woodwork js good, consider putting the plans up for enthusiasts.Fug forgot to comment on that. I have no real measurements; I'm pretty much just tracing the stock and cutting the channel to roughly the specs I can work out from the half of the original handguard I do have. Rough (eyeballed) measurements and shaping is done via my favorite method: "Damn, I can't afford to replace this part at these prices! Oh I know, I'll buy the part anyways so I can measure it and make it myself anyways and double the cost." LOL. Weirdly enough the front handguard "lifts" off the stock with the real original HG I have as well (back at the "fingers" aside the rear sight) so it's not my wood being out-of-flat, it's the forestock. Measuring would take too long unless I was CNCing it (god I wish). This is 100% trace with a pencil, plane the thing down to roughly the right shape, use HF gouges to make the barrel channel, sand, sand, sand, files?, sand some more, find out the barrel still rubs, sand some more, huh I wonder how close I am to punching through this skinny piece of wood, oh god the barrel band channel has been skewed this whole time, use a box cutter like a chisel, sand some more, okay it fits, sand some more, and it's still oversize.
>>64364249>always resell it >he sells his guns
>>64365364>hoardingOK Boomer.
If you were to use one lubricant for your milsurp for the rest of your life, what would it be? I'm running out of my Lucas Oil and need a new suggestion.
>>64365772>If
Finally put together my vz61 and im trying to statistically put shit on it.The very few scope mounts out there are sold out or got extra shit and are the price of the scorpion itself.Anyone here McGyverd sights on these things?
My stock wrist repair failed me lads. It was Saturday and I'm still mad
>>64365772>>64366310I second Ballistol, it's not exceptional in any way (except for black powder), but can do everything.I filled a big ecig juice container I bought at an ecig shop with Ballistol and that bottle lives in my AR's stock.Has actually come in handy before, having it at hand
>>64365542Not him but I'm 35 and I'm not selling a damn thing. I've sold in the past but always regretted it
>>64359446Nah, I own a long rifle in 8x56 and it is a very snappy recoil, it's not a push but a hard slap.It's a beautiful piece of art, but it's by far the least pleasurable of my milsurps to shoot
>>64359091>2006 TaurusTaurei are good cars
>>64353252My crypto mooned but now I'm afraid to spend that money as its a great nest egg.
>>64366611I've sold 14 guns in the last 5 years and don't miss a single one of them; I wouldn't have sold them if I still had any affection for them. These are all strictly emotional investments to me so I consider the money spent on them irrecoverable because in order to recover that money I would have to give up the gun. So if there comes a time when I don't feel anything for a gun I consign it to a local auctioneer.
>>64365105>>64365112>>64365261Your command of the english language is impeccable, anon.I feel that about scopes tho. My biggest is a noname amazon special, 6x40 or some shit. Got it on sale for $50, and its fuckin metric lel. Its put up with the abuse well, and if i focus it in just perfect i can count bullet holes at 1000 yards
Any of you autists able to id this thing we found in our granddads closetThere's no markings except a fairly crude serial number, looks like a Posting some other angles too
>>64368971*Looked like some type of mauser or something, I do not know
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>>64368971>>64368977nice dubs>>64368983>>64369000nice trips>>64369017Japanese Carcano Type 1
>>64368445I tend to buy scopes veeeeeerrry slow, maybe one a year at that. I don't have good luck with used or Chineseium scopes so I tend to try and spend enough to guarantee it won't get bumped off zero or do funny things. Then again I spend a lot less per (surp/old) gun than most on /msg/ and buy a lot less. I also dump cash into hunting like crazy lol. Gets me out of the house and forces me to get up early and have a good sleep schedule. Not necessarily a healthy one though lol.>>64368971>>64368977>>64369000That safety and cocking piece screams carcano FWIW but can't say for sure or what model. S/N also looks similar in font and formatting to my carbine. That thing is in very nice shape, damn.
>>64368971>>64368977>>64368983>>64369000>>64369017Japanese Type I. A joint venture between Japan and Italy. Its essentially its a Type 38 with a Carcano action. its in 6.5 JapaneseIts in great shape. Granpda either took good care of it or never touched it.>>64369038>Japanese Carcano Type 1this is a common misunderstanding but it isnt the number one, its the letter I for Italian. unironically.
>>64369090>this is a common misunderstanding but it isnt the number one, its the letter I for Italian. unironically.Oh wow you're right! I didn't notice. It's self-evident given the japanese name, イ式小銃, since "イ" is the katakana (script for foreign loan words) for the letter "i".(sorry, I'm a milsurp/weeb/etymology autist. this is like three of my interests rolled into one)
Took my shiney new M1 out today, loaded 50 more rounds. Got a box of speer boat tails, in 165gn. Still got 55 gn of superperformance for propellant, bugger shot damn good. Consistently hitting my favorite plate at 300 yards. I did put my sissy pad on though.>>64369045Yeah, i lucked out with that amazon special. When my money problems get sorted i plan to do a no drill/mill rail on my nugget with a decent scout scope for that long ass eye relief. Just gotta bring it into work for the torches to melt the silver solder.
>>64368971I am so jealous, I will never get to inherit any cool guns
>>64369038>>64369045>>64369090Thank you anons. We're supposed to put this in the estate auction but I really wanted it and the Sears Marlin .22 plinker so I'm going to attempt to buy it instead. I already have his katana he brought home so I think the rifle would make it a cool pair.
>>64369120Very common mistake with type i’s. You looking to sell it?
>>64369328you better, that is the nicest Type I I have ever seen. >have to buy it rom the estateomega gay. hopefully you get bargain pricing.
>>64353607hold and wait till 250k
>>64369358I will probably continue to hold my 0.0000 wallets until I die
>>64369328Who are you buying it off of? uncle? grandma? do they know what it is and/or care?A fair price would be about 500 bucks, but itll depend on who your dealing with/family relations.
>>64369402It's being executed by my sister, as she is the nearest relation that is mentally capable. I have an okay relationship with her, and she was the one that was cool with me taking home the sword when it was found but I do wonder if she'd be willing to forego the auction process and take like 600-650 for it and the Marlin/Sears plinker.
>>64369421600 is fine if you want to ensure you get it from your sister. one in the condition that is in in today money will run 600-700 so youre not overpaying by much. And without a guarantee family discount and it sounding like saying 400-500 bucks might not be a sure thing 600 is a good reach.
>>64369438Thats not even overpay for one in that nice of condition considering a third party buyer would likely have tax, shipping, and ffl tacked on.
I want to look at pictures of WW2 soldiers having secondary standard or second line arms, anyone have any?
>>64371815A few. German occupation troops in Norway with Yugoslavian M.95M rifles.
US Navy sailor on guard duty with a Krag-Jorgensen rifle. Supposedly the USN even placed a 1942 order for .45-70 ball (the M1895 smokeless load).
US Marines with a Japanese Type-I Carcano rifle, IIRC this is on Saipan. Strongly suggesting that contrary to the established lore these Type-I rifles did see combat during WW2.
British Home Guardsman with a SMLE Mk.I*** fitted with rifle grenade discharger (cup) and anti-tank grenade.
The Brits were buying up/issuing out almost anything that would shoot after the fall of France and the feared German invasion; they even purchased Colt Single-Action Army revolvers in 1940. These Winchester M1907s might be contemporary commercial Winchester purchases or perhaps leftover stock from the RFC/RAF orders during WW1.
Luftwaffe ground forces with quite a variety of rifles. Nearest the camera are two Belgian Mauser M89/36s, then a French Berthier M07/15, then a Kar.98k, then another 89/36, and further down the line the distinctive magazine shape of the Mannlicher M.1895 appears visible.
Waffen-SS with a variety of submachine guns: MP-28, MP-41, and Suomi KP-31.
Most of the US 2nd Division still had M1903 rifles when they landed in France on D+1 June 7th 1944.
>>64371815Ottoman Soldiers with M1866 Winchesters
Bulgarian troops with captured Ottoman M1866s
>>64370939>that Click ClackI’ve recently fallen in love with them after fixing my Uncle’s.
>>64371839>US Navy sailor on guard duty with a Krag-Jorgensen rifle. Supposedly the USN even placed a 1942 order for .45-70 ball (the M1895 smokeless load).You meant .30 army surely?
>>64372666pretty sure he's implying that they still had 1885 Rem Lees on a boat somewhere
>>64371859>that motherfucker ready to raid a trench like his daddy did at the Marne
>>64371945I’m guessing that was somewhat intentional too and not just slow logistics
>>64372714I've seen a few pics, mostly from North Africa and Italy, of guys with Springfields that have rifle grenade launchers next to guys with Garands, presumably acting as a grenadier, but that doesnt seem to be whats happening there?
>>64372763I would presume army higher ups thought the M1 would not perform well on a combat beach landing. I would agree and I wasn’t even born in 1885
>>64370939>that ArisakaReconstruction didn't go far enough.
>>64373004>confederate arisaka
>>64364108Anon did you go back and buy it?
>>64370939hey Ivan
Speaking of M44s. There's a guy selling an M44 and M91/30 in separate listings. He's got them each listed for $500 which is not stupidly high, so I feel like I could either one down to $300 individually.But, I know he's gonna decline if I hit him with "give me both for $600."
>>64373560No I got gay aids instead
>>64370939Need Canadian dumper gf
>>64373847Why would you consider $500 for a 91/30?
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/msg/ raid to save the Type 11 from the Monterey Country Sheriff's office when?
>>64373847700 would give you a better chance. 300 for the 91/30, 400 for the m44
>>64370939Savage/Springfield/Stevens 87A spotted. They like CCI 1080s btw. Quiet, too.
>>64374211>felon possession of firearm>attempted illegal sale of machinegun in CAits so fucking over for that gun
What is the worst looking milsurp you guys have cleaned up?
>>64374211How did a methhead get his hands on a type 11
Which surp are you keeping for yourself? Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?
>>64375343Probably >>64364982 and I'm still working on it. Really should get on acetone bath-ing the stock but I know the forestock is going to be a PITA because of its length.>>64376183>Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?I was going to say I'm keeping them all to myself, but,>Here bro, here's YOUR gun>[is a .410IM SMLE ammo does not exist for and still can't accept .410 shotshells]
>>64375573Probably stole it but California doesn't allow full funs so maybe it came from out of state. Hopefully its registered so it can go back to its owner and not be destroyed.
