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>>64392209canucks can own revolvers?!
>>64393125Post passport homo.
I always see talk of keeping shitty old guns as a "wall hanger" but have any of you actually done that? Did you take safety into consideration when you did it? (take the bolt/firing pin out, trigger lock, cable lock it in place, etc....) Or do you just let it hang?
>>64393316I highly doubt someone can identify what caliber of “shitty old guns” which in of itself a safety feature. The only reason I could see taking out hardware will be that it will look good in court if they used the shitty RTI wall hanger as evidence you are unwell and willing to hurt someone.
>>64393316Not really? keeping an unloaded gun on the wall as a wall hanger doesnt make it more unsafe. unless you are trying to deliberately make it inoperable for some reason, there isnt a purpose to do so to a wall hanger.
>>64393316Are you European or something? Guns are inert until someone loads it and shoots something with it
>>64393316This is a very Canadian sounding post.Is your fear here that the wall hanger could be stolen and then used in a crime? grabbed off the wall and loaded/fired by a house guest?
>>64393914You can't even keep a deact outside a gun safe in most of Gayrape these daysBut I'm striking back and recommending that everyone desiring a deact get a real gun, I'm even helping them jump the hoopsThe government can go fuck themselves
>>64394302God Speed anon, the Lord's work
Who else enjoys analyzing and admiring the variety of bolts they have? I don't have all my guns at my house yet, so not too many.I find the bolts alone almost as interesting as the guns themselves
Was missing one
>>64394358>But I'm striking back and recommending that everyone desiring a deact get a real gun, I'm even helping them jump the hoopsmosin, pre 98 mauser bolt (1895?), k31, 98 mauser bolt, Mannlicher, carcano bolt (?), and whats that one on the bottom right?
>>64394346>>64394358Sometimes. >>64394487I see Mosin M1891, Mauser M1893, Swiss K1931, Mauser M1898, Gewehr M1888, Mannlicher M1895 and I think Kropatschek M1886.
>>64394487See>>64394554They're just fun
Try this one.
>>64394602Bolt face for a second looked like a Ross but the rest of it I have no clue
>>64394602Is that a fucking Boys bolt?
>>64394625Yep
>>64394651Noice. Do you have the rest of that monster?
>>64394651Also, PTRD?
>>64394662Yes>>64394659And yes. Barrel is currently needing replacement so it's a .22 LR.
>>64394677Bad ass man, very cool
I did something even the Turks couldn't do: I made a Mauser 98 inoperable.BUY SNAP CAPS
For the anon, who was cleaning his lee Enfield with murphy's oil cleaner, how many times did you ended up putting it on the wood? After drying, I still have tiny left over dirt inside the section where the receiver goes, not sure if it's worth going back and hitting with cleaner again to get it out.
>>64394346I sure like them bolts
Oh look, now we have TWO fucking threads for the same exact thing
>>64396531looks like someone didnt check the catalogue. the question now though is who deletes theres
>>64396538There's fewer celebrities in this one, so probably this one.
>>64396538Yea, that's my fault, people started using it though for some reason. We'll see what the Jannys decide on.
>>64395155If it's just dirt inside the stock, for example, dirt that isn't oil in the wood and isn't regular dirt that's raised off the surface of the wood that would interfere with the fitment of the stock, I wouldn't bother going too nuts. Acid Brushes from Harbor Freight may help you get into the odd areas as well as toothbrushes from the now fucking DollarFIFTY Tree. Dawn Powerwash (pic) helps get the grease out that the Murphy's won't touch for some odd reason. Acetone can also help BUT I only recommend that if you have no wood finish (or paint) left, the dirt is probably oily, and do not care about what is currently there. Soak a paper towel with it, press it over the stock, and wait maybe 15-30 seconds. Keeping the stock from drying out while you rub the dirt out is difficult since it dries so quick but it comes out like crazy. Should be obvious but don't use plastic anything with acetone as a good 80% of it is going to melt lol.Honestly at this point I've probably lost count how many times I've done it. The handguard went quick because it was so thin but still needs some work. The forestock is still half done. The buttstock is barely started and I still have to figure out what to do about the rusty reinforcing ferrule the stock screw butts up against. If your gun is oil soaked, it's going to need a lot more cleaning than if it's just really filthy. I wouldn't be surprised if the handguard is in the 5-7 times range. The forestock will probably be in the 6-10 range, and the stock in the 8-15 range. I think the thickness soaks up a lot more dirt, especially the oil that I think was from a soak/multiple applications of used motor oil. Sure smells like it.
>>64395155Oh yeah, not to mention IIRC I actually took the handguard and soaked it in Acetone in a Ball jar using foil to somewhat seal the top and prevent evaporation, flipping every couple hours. More dirt comes out than you'd ever think. I don't think I'll go until it's all out but I'll get close. The stock and forestock will require a much bigger container and THAT will be a mess. I'll buy a gallon and have to figure out WTF I'm going to do to be able to use it most efficiently. Probably find some drain spout section, cut it in half, and bend the ends up and foil the whole thing. Something cheap. The stock...oh god. I really wish there was a way to clean the acetone that didn't require, like, distillation or something; the equipment and time (and explosion hazard) for that is just not worth it. Coffee filters do not work, it's dissolved into the liquid itself. (ps: checked)
do you store your bolts in the gun or separately nearby?
>>64398496>>64396974Thanks for taking time to answer, I ended up buying power-wash just to use less than tablespoon worth of it just to removed tiny build up of dirt in the fore-end, I'm surprised murphy's oil cleaner did a good job, luckily RTI didn't send me something that warranted acetone. I ended up using BLO on the upper hand guard in the meantime and came out nicer than I expected, what finish are you going to be using?
>>64393316Yes, I take safety into consideration by keeping them in functioning condition and fully loaded. A safe gun is one you can trust to always go off when you pull the trigger, and gun safety means not randomly pulling the trigger on guns because you know for a fact that they're always loaded.
>>64393316Wall hangar in USA contexts generally conotates a weapon being non-functional and/or unfixable or not worth fixing or shooting often to the point of being unsafe to shoot i.e. blowing up in your hands
>>64393316My deadbolt is the device keeping intruders safe.
>>64393316>scared of wallhangersThe Euro fears the toilet bazooka
>>64398843Normally I'd recommend BLO considering it's what was used originally. I on the other hand may actually end up using Rustoleum clear coat (Satin). I know, it sounds crazy but that stuff really makes figured wood shimmer the easiest and it doesn't touch the color of the wood, for better or worse. I found a piece of ply I had with some nice curl in it and without so much as cleaning it, a coat of that stuff got it shimmering like I've never been able to do with any other wood finish. Shellac could do the same and look nicer but I've yet to try it for a couple reasons. Absolutely heretical to use Rustoleum clear on surplus, I know, but I think I can make it shimmer the best out of any of my options. Plus it's super easy to touch up and remove. I have some sections that look like no 19 (forestock) and no 20 (upper front HG) on this site, although not as brown from age, UV exposure, and wear. With alcohol to preview the color I get a nice "pure" brown (despite the grey look when dry) which is going to look great. https://www.chatometry.com/home-page/walnut-european/I tend to try and put guns back to as original as possible but at the same time I'm having some fun experimenting and learning with this rifle, mostly non-destructively/reversibly with one exception: It's getting bored to .410 and I may one day attempt to hunt with it at least once. IIRC that Rustoleum clear coat touches up very nicely which is a bonus when it comes to its properties. If nothing else it will be a very fun gun for clays.
>>64399176I'm very curious what the final product will look like, keep /msg/ updated, as soon as I finish with the wood on mine I have to get started on the metal with the good ole ballistol and steel wool to work. Shellac looks weird/bubba on anything except combloc stuff for example pic.
>>64399176BLO was not used.Each soldier was issued something like 2 oz. yearly of regular linseed oil for the wood. BLO dries too fast and ends up shiny, the issued oil dried quite slow and left a non-reflective finish. Any soldier caught with a shiny stock from the wrong oil or boning was made to strip it and redo it with the proper oil.
>>64394358Thankfully you managed to get that last one in there. I would have been rather dismayed had I not seen the whole family.
>>64393789>>64393884>>64393914these are low iq zoomtards btw. wallhangers are declared as such because they are unsafe to fire hence why they get relegated to only good for decoration. taking out a firing pin or bolt is a smart and prudent action to make sure some retard doesnt do damage to himself if something happens to you and when your guns get passed on or sold nobody else knew that gun was fucked and ready to blow
is it normal for m1 carbine to fail to lock the round in the chamber if you ride the charging handle?
>>64401225Pretty much every rifle that isn't straight blowback will do that, don't do it. I can with my 10/22 to be quiet when hunting but I still often pull back a bit and let it snap shut a quarter inch once or twice after riding most of the way forward just to be sure it fully shuts. I don't do that with my AR as having a rotating bolt head for locking, it doesn't tend to like it and will get damn close to closed but not all the way, so I just lock it back, throw a mag in, and press the bolt release letting it slam shut. In general it's a bad habit to ride the charging handle forward with few exceptions.
>>64399469Huh, I thought originally (from the factory) rifles were finished by dipping in a vat of warm/hot linseed oil (not BLO) which came out looking similar to BLO once cured. Still not BLO but if anon is refinishing, can he even replicate the original linseed finish without a vat like some people say they refinish surplus stocks with?
Do you guys mostly collect rifles or pistols?
>>64400555trips of truth. thank you.I have guns that are super shitty and won't be taking to the range, but are still technically perfectly functionable. I probably should have clarified, but my main concern would be thief and retard-proofing, so I didn't know if there was a common way to lock them in place.
>>64402670yes
Brought home a m98/48 today
>>64402867Very nice anon? How much did you pay?
>>64402897$475 would have been cheaper but got raped on shipping
>>64402925Very niceI got one just the other day for $450 at a gunshow
>>64402694you cant thief it if its on display on a wall. if your concern is drunk friends then i would remove parts to make it inoperable or just get a fucking replica and stop being a retard hanging guns on your wall and letting retards play wtih them
>>64404406thief proof*if your concern is theft then dont diplay that shit on a wall
>>64402694>mounting securelyI'm not sure how you could really do that. Screwing a mount plate into the studs and then making some kind of chastity belt holding your rifle to the plate? You would be better off making a gun room and hoping any burglars (black or brown obviously) are too retarded to get past a locked interior door.
>>64402925>bro didnt calculate shipping and buyers premium before he bidThat's on you
>>64399103I'm Euro and my friend's dad used to have a toilet shotgunBut that was 20 years ago, nobody cared about gun safes and such back then
>>64404777I have bought from over a dozen auction houses in the past and am fully aware of auction fees and shipping, But this is the first time I have seen a $60 charge on top of shipping to have it shipped from an ffl outside of the auction house. No where in the terms was that mentioned.
>>64404795“Back in my day, we used a chastity belt to carry our gun's sonny”
Bump
>>64410580based, we should always have 2 threads
>>64410580all of /k/ was promised to /msg/ by god 3000 years ago
Type 100 clone might become a thing.https://x.com/gearheadguns/status/1979338075290636677
>>64411886coming may-june-july-august-september-october-november-wheneverish*
>>64411886that looks like shit but Id probably buy it
>>64411886>intentionally copying the crude-as-fuck last ditch variant so you can get away with cheap & sloppy bargain bin manufacturingCertified BIG BRAIN move.
>>64412560$1250 for a gun that's 90% of a Type 100 is a pretty good deal desu
>>64399619Go to hell, at least we got a couple different pictures for a change instead of the same fucking pictures recycled by the same fucking faggots
>>64404420>>64404407>>64404406>>64402694>>64400555>>64393316How the fuck did you overcomplicate the concept of hanging a shitty gun on a wall this fucking horrendously?>select shitty rifle to display>display rifleSound like paranoid old women
>>64413339The problem is he's not even 90% complete with the first prototype yet and we are almost 6 months delayed and references to materials and labor being significantly more expensive than expected have popped up. I want the project to succeed but the finished product needs to look significantly better than >>64411886 for me to even consider buying it. It barely even looks like a Japanese gun.
How much would you pay for a G43?
Thoughts? tips?
>>64414895bout tree fiddy
>>64414895$2500, same as i paid for my two matching ones>>64415010lol i do have one I only have $350 in
>>64414931be a lot more specific. cause>Thoughts?its a neat and fun gun>tips?you'll go thru a bunch of GSGI mags before you find the ones that will always work reliably
>>64411886>elongated barrel to meet current regsim out
>>64415033>$2500I wish I could find one priced like this
>>64414895Depends, a legit, original, unfucked, matching rifle usually goes for around $5k now. If the stock has been sanded, probably closer to $3k if the rest of it is really nice. And under $2.5k would be better for anything that has more serious issues (mismatched, sporterized, refinished, etc.).>>64415033>$2500, same as i paid for my two matching onesAre you talking about untouched, matching guns because prices on those have doubled in the past 5 years. I really hope to get a nice matching rifle myself but you'd have to be extremely lucky to find one priced at $2500 these days.
>>64415045>>64415070yea I bought mine like 10 years ago from the same guy the $350 one I built myself out of salvaged parts and a new made stock from poland
>>64414772>materials and labor being significantly more expensive than expected have popped up.Tariffs and other associated economic autism might be more to blame than design issues, but yea all these delays for a simple gun aren't the most heartening.>It barely even looks like a Japanese gun.Supposedly this is gonna be the "cheaper" version and a more accurate version will eventually be available, but we'll see if they can even get the simpler one made.
>>64415150and I think thats the complete backwards way to go about the project. the $2000 super historically accurate gun (with added options for caliber and off the shelf magazines) should be the one that's made first. The Type 100 is an $80,000+ gun. The people who are interested in the Type 100 have money to spend. Why are we starting with the stripped down model when the people who are going to actually be buying this are more hardcore milsurp enthusiasts with disposable income? He needs to target the whales and have them fund the rest of the development.The whales NEED to buy this gun and compromising the aesthetics (the only actually compelling thing about this gun) seems insane.
>>64414895I paid 1800 for mine's because the guy needed sold, also that picture, $6000 gewehr 43 from the last time I saw it when it was 8,000
>>64415456>$6000 gewehr 43 from the last time I saw it when it was 8,000kek
>>64415044200 dollars and you could make it look actually cool. Shouldn't have to though
>>64414895Not enough to actually buy one. Not until I have "fuck you" money
>>64415399They probably thought it would be easier to design a gun with more off the shelf components and then use that experience and funding to work on a more original design. Should've done something that would've been more popular than Japshit though.
>>64415150Who the fuck is going to buy the "modernized type 100". Nobody wants that, Its the same retarded shit HMG did the with STG44.
>>64417584The internals won't be changing in the gun. The Type 100 is a fully automatic blow back machine gun so it has to be different from the original gun. The outside aesthetics is what is concerning. its literally the only thing that matters for tis gun and making a shitty one piece stock and using temu looking parts will kill this entire project. Japshit is plenty popular for this to work but it actually has to look good
>>64414895$0. They are hot garbage that is only propped up by their rarity and being a hekkin Nazerino gun. I would take a Garand, SVT, Ljigma, FN49, or hell even a MAS-49 over a G43. >inb4 hurr fagIf liking functional firearms makes me gay, than I don't want to be straight.
>>64419737based and gay
>>64415150>Supposedly this is gonna be the "cheaper" version and a more accurate version will eventually be available, but we'll see if they can even get the simpler one made.NTA but oh boy. Never ever admit you have an early improved version two in the works, like ever. I'd feel shitty not letting people know as someone in that situation but Osborne did that with the world's first portable PC. Yeah here's version one it's great and is only like 18x12x18 (really more like pic rel 40mm can) and weighs 20lbs with a single shitty leather handle on top. They had version two in the works, mentioned it in interviews, and went out of business as their sales had decreased so drastically over what they would've had otherwise had no one known about a potential version 2. Hoping for the best but that isn't a good business move most of the time.
>>64419906Same for picrel which was my first handgun.
>>64419958Yep, admit to version two once you're successful and you're close to releasing version two and already have v1 on sale, not before it's made. PS: I have this pamphlet (hard to find online) and I love the overuse of this lady in her office work clothes with high heels totally lugging this thing around effortlessly one-handed. Having moved one several times I can assure you this is an empty ABS case in this photo with zero doubt in my mind lol. It is a two hand computer easily and if I had one when they were new I'd have a little dolly/truck or a custom suitcase if I actually had to lug this thing all the time. Miserable to move.
How much are Polish Mauser bayonets? Are Radom ones worth more?
>>64422414I just got a Wz. 29e and original ones are $300 at the very cheapest, i've seen some upwards of $900 I did see some nice repros on nestof but they're sold out.
>>64419737>or hell even a MAS-49Besides the M1, that's the best rifle you listed
>>64411886Finally I can cosplay her while competing in a PCC match
are nambu pistols actually dogpoop?
>>64423660no but they are very finicky and expensive and chambered in a completely obsolete cartridge
>>64422763I don't want to play the MAS-49 lotto of getting one that shoots straight. So many of them look great, but have fucked bores.
>>64423660Type 14s are perfectly fine as far as old war pistols go. Springs are a little weak but overall a neat gun. Are they the best there is? absolutely not. are they dogpoop? not toally.an all around complete package of rugged pistol in an odd cartridge
>>64422680>I just got a Wz. 29e and original ones are $300 at the very cheapest,That's great to hear. I picked up a Scrubbed WZ 29 and Radom 29 bayonet for 500 dollarydoos and ratty as fuck Romy M44 and was give a lot of shit for trading a rifle for bayonet.
>>64415150autistic dream of mine is one in 32 taking vz-61 mags
>>64423660They're peculiar but not completely unserviceable. They have wonderfully light triggers, pretty decent sights, and are pleasant shooters. A lot of the problems that come from them are weak springs, mismatched magazines, and ammo being nearly unavailable. Get a set of Wolf springs, a set of dies, a good load, and a pistol with a matching mag and they're fun to take out as long as you don't mind chasing brass.
>>64424808i just like the look and thinking it could bea good hd thing to keep around
When ever you guys acquire a new milsurp specifically one with wood furniture, what do you use to give it a wipe down? I have a Carcano that is dirty, but not RTI levels of dirty that requires a whole refinishing with BLO, I saw a video where this guy uses a rag lightly soaked in mineral spirits to clean his wood, but I thought mineral spirits was a solvent and remove the finish?
>>64425414I filled a large plastic container with scalding hot water, submerged my Wz.29 stock in it for about two minutes, and scrubbed with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. All surface dirt and grime instantly peeled off, no damage to the finish at all. Wiped down with a fresh towel and air-dried for a week.Alternatively, I sprayed a spare K98k stock set with a fuck ton of Ballistol and gave it the same sponge treatment. Cleaned just as well, but took a while. I've heard of people getting similar results using simple green.
>>64425558>Hot water>BallistolHuh, a lot simpler than I thought it would be.
>>64426992Hot water and regular liquid dish soap also works amazingly well for this kind of stuff.
How badly did i overpay msgbros
>>64427273maybe $100? depends where you live
I got a question about the availability of 7mm Mauser. Ive been reading some 1920's American Rifleman, and seem to really like 7x57, putting it right behind 30-06 for a sporting cartridge. Now at the time you could order a rifle from Mauser, or get a 7mm barrel put on an action you had, but if I couldn;t afford that but still really wanted to shoot 7x57, does anyone know what the surplus situation was? Did Bannerman have any 7mm rifles available at the time?
>>64427897In 1899 Bannerman had purchased several thousand Spanish M1893s that the US captured in Cuba/Puerto Rico and brought back to Springfield for testing. IDK how many they had left by the 1920s, but they had tried to sell some to Serbia in 1913 to replace Serbian losses in the Balkan Wars but the sale had been opposed by Austria-Hungary.
Bros.. did i get scammed on proxibid?I didn't see this until after the auction was over
>>64428896Technically no because you bid what you bid. Always check for that disclaimer and if you see it then your best bet is to do incremental bids at the podium. That disclaimer basically means that any pre-bidding you do is magically always going to hit your max. Rock Island does the same thing.
>>64428896It’s not like they couldn’t do that already. At pretty much any live auction I’ve ever been to the employees and even the auctioneer can bid against you. No way to tell if it’s truly shill bidding because a lot of those guys work for the auctioneer because especially in the days before internet hosted auctions, it brings in the kind of stuff these guys collect.
>>64428896Any type of auction is like that, except they're being more up front with it. Shit should be illegal, but how do you stop it, you don't know if that bidder is plant or not.
>>64423660they're good minus firing pins breaking from dry firing and ammo availbility
>>64429398wheres your 6.5 krag
>>64432639Here:
Any one want to buy a Pattern 1907 bayonet? It's a Wilkinson made in March 1918, Has the leather sheath. I don't use it and it takes up space. https://imgur.com/a/vmAxTHs $115 + Free shippingPayment would be through Paypal Send an email if you want itHoly shit fuck this captcha system
>>64432878ill give you $40
>>64432868those are mausers
>>64434134Chambered in 6.5 Krag.
>>64434302i wanted krag the gun
>>64428896you got kiked by boomers next time stop being a retard
>bid on one gun>it goes for average price>see same model going for sale on next lot>throw in lowball bid on second gun>it goes for half the price of the firstwtf i love boomer auction psychology now
>>64434932You can’t always get what you want.
What percentage of guns do you buy from:- Gunbroker- Non-gunbroker auctions- Gunshows- Local classifiedsFor myself it's 5% gunbroker, 70% auctions, 25% gunshows, 0% classifieds
>>64437345>you forgot LGSGunbroker - 10%Non-GB Auctions - 60%Gunshows - 5%Classifieds - 0%Local gun store - 25%
>>64437345Everything has been:Local shows, the Vegas show, local based gunshops and a few boomers I know.I refuse to buy anything online (other than ammo and parts) and ive never been really good at finding local auctions.
>>64437345>Gunbroker10%>non-Gunborker online auctions40%>live auctions35%>LGS5%>online retailers4%>Zoomers on social media1%
>>6443734550% - fuddbroker25% - other online auctions0% - gunshows0% - classifieds 25% - LGSI have had pretty decent luck getting under market deals on gunbroker
>>64437345>Gunbroker6%>Non GB Auctions55%Gunshows>4%>Local Gun Store10%>Online Retailer25%My local area has not been fruitful for anything I've been looking for lately so online has been the go-to for me.
>>64437345Everything I've ever bought has been from a gun show
>>64419958Wut kind of goon is dat? Ser make/mod?
