>>64570216
don’t care, the army sucks. Go Navy!

>>64570230
Ya but they’re MY immigrants. Different from the Afghani who shot NG, they instead handle my supply and fix the ever broken MTG. Cmon anon, know the difference.

>>64570172
>>64570174
>>64570213
Totally organic posts, comrade!
>>64570207

>>64570240
This is how I know you are a never served, or allah forgive me for saying this, a soldier. Only never served or army-slimes would ever consider betraying their shipmates.

Coming out as joining the military to my family at Thanksgiving was harder than coming out as gay.

>>64570247
Ahh, it was the other guy again! Remember, only two, no more and no less

https://youtu.be/ZDmP0bOstEA?si=guwvGvFj0yeS4W3D

There are idiots that left the US military just to get their legs blow off in ukraine.

There's strong, and then their is ARMY STRONG

>>64570058
American servicemen are getting gunned down in their own country by the people they spent 20 years fighting in the middle east, lost to, and surrendered to. This is all after the smear campaigns the leftist media and politicians push about the NG and ICE doing their jobs. All while those same liberals will cheer on immigration.

How anyone could want to be in the american military is truly a lost soul.

Poor Robert, he is still so upset about General Milley that he is seething from the last thread. I shouldn't have given him any mercy by making this thread without Milley's portrait in the OP

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>>64570429
Try again.

>throws a temper tantrum because he didnt get to make the thread with a picture of a tranny or something else he doesnt like
>gets called out for being a whiny baby
>proceeds to get even MORE upset

Youre like 35 dude. Why are you letting strangers on the internet rule your emotions and ruin your life?

You talk about the Army taking 4 years of your life if you sign a contract, but you have been coming here every single day for 5 years. Sounds to me like the same sort of slavery, except you didnt get paid to do it

>>64570058
Don't be infantry

>>64570482
>the resident neverserved recruiter is this mad

>>64570489
Whos who here? I thought they were all different characters played by the same person.

>>64570489
t. The neverserved recruiter

>>64570491
>I'm not crying, YOURE crying!
You can't salvage this. Nobody is watching, and nobody is cheering you on. You are utterly alone and came back for another round of internet bullying. If you actually ever out-trolldd me, you would not have to behave like this. I have owned your psyche for half a decade; there is no recovery from that kind of buckbreaking

>>64570506
Yes, recruiter san. Whatever you say, senpai.

>>64570511
And yet there is a constant and endless effort to dissuade people from joining the military, people that you admit don't come here. Who are you talking to, if not yourself? You clearly aren't convincing me, since apparently I never served but somehow also work as a recruiter for... what branch did you say?

>>64570530
They only people to ever post dd214 have been bdcfag, and 92gfag oddly enough. Both of them expressed not to join the military. Funny how the only people advocating for joining are neverserveds.

>>64570531
I see nothing but statements, all of which are warning people off of joining... but who are you talking to? Its just you and me

>>64570542
Was 350F stolen valor? Everybody else that has posted here? All liars except you?

>>64570548
Post dd214

>>64570551
That would require me to have finished my service, since I'm looking to serve honorably, unlike you.

Actually, I haven't seen any proof that your DD214 actually belonged to you. Care to provide with an updated timestamp?

>>64570562
Exactly. I remeber you tried that with 92gfag a ways back. He posted it and you never delivered.

What are you trying to slide, Robert? Nobody posted here except you. Another thread will be made before this one dies, and it WILL feature General Milley again. What are you winning?

>>64570620
Or he is faking it all. It's okay, I'll still smear his name with that BCD even if it isnt his.

>>64570645
A paradox, isnt it? I'm only here to fuck with him, to ensure he is too distracted online to ever do what that Afghan just did, while he is only here to try to beat me at a game I already won years ago. These threads act like a continuous victory parade, sort of like antifa marches or pride parades. /meg/ won its right to exist on this board forever, and now Robert gets to attend every thread, like a Jehovah's Witness attending a prior parade, constantly witnessing his defeat as cocks wobble freely and lesbians piss on each other, and all he can do is either keep witnessing his failure manifest or find a place where he can enjoy being around like-minded people.

>>64570806
Unusable? Is that the goal? If so, why do people constantly keep coming back?

Robert, I will speak seriously for a moment. Your objective of sliding all productive discussion requires your CONSTANT presence, and when you aren't here everything returns to normal. Is the juice really worth the squeeze? Are you committed to doing this until 4chan goes offline? Whether you keep doing this or not, you'll never get the last 5 years back, and you can't undo the hundreds of thousands of enlistments and commissions that were signed for during those past 5 years.

>>64570875
Remember when you used to get upset for not being taken seriously, as if you really thought your ideology could gain any traction? Now you are reduced to a noise maker, like the American ceiling cricket. The only reason this thread has so many posts in such a short time is because I wanted to toy with you. If I don't respond to you, you are stuck responding to yourself for as long as the jannies allow.

You're spiraling, just as planned.

>>64570899
What happened to those National Guardspeople was a tragedy, and I am happy to declare that my therapy sessions with you have ensured that you weren't the one that pulled that trigger.

I won.

This is just sad.

>>64570420
/thread

>>64570914
Agreed. Dude wasted his morning and all of his posts were deleted (again). Thankfully he spent his day doing this instead of anything that endangers the public, so that's another tally on the board for me.

>I baited robert into getting 3 for free
epic. This is why I post here.

>>64571168
I love doing victory laps whenever he shows his ugly face. If he stopped coming here, I would too. Its a vicious cycle that he is responsible for perpetuating

>>64570908
>What happened to those National Guardspeople was a tragedy
Nah it was pretty funny lol

>>64570430
how many millions of times has this tryhard image been posted here?
what a gigantic larp.

>>64571229
Pretending what though? Also welcome back from your ban

>>64571251
Oh, so back to "da jooz" again? We're almost coming full circle. Do you still have your Dirlewanger photo folder? I havent seen that nigga in a long time

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How do I become a Russian navy seal as a mexican?

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>>64570035
Just graduated from Coast Guard Boot Camp, ask me anything

>>64572613
How was it, what rate are you going?

I'm hoping to ship in April and go the ME route. (do you know what the current wait time is for me aschool?)

Is the "real army" like what you see in the movies? As in, are you marching around, being yelled at, made to do pushups for tiny infractions, etc? Idk how anybody could stand that.

>>64572698
I should specify, by "real army" I mean once you graduate boot camp or whatever.

>>64572728
>>64572698
No, it's mostly a regular job but with a military veneer. No one marches or whatever except during ceremonies or sometimes during PT. You can get yelled at or made to push for being late or doing retarded shit but if you never do then it doesn't really happen. In combat arms you might see more of that stuff but even then it's a lot more situational rather than everyone getting smoked just because.
Your NCOs also generally want you to succeed and will mentor you in several ways, rather than enforcing a total disconnect between you and them. This becomes especially true at E-4, as you prepare for the board and pinning stripes yourself.
Yes, the occasional power tripping dickhead exists, but such people are generally viewed as annoying asshats by everyone else.

>>64572765
Oh and the other thing is that you have your own private living space, whether in the barracks or off post, rather than living in an open bay with wall lockers and inspections. You'll only have to do that when deployed to some locations or at CTCs. It genuinely makes a huge difference compared to BCT/OSUT, where you're sharing space with 60 dudes and have zero privacy.

>>64572613
Who is Mark Milley?

>>64570172
Best advice ITT

>>64570420
>How anyone could want to be in the american military is truly a lost soul.
truth nuke

>>64572839
Crazy how the guy saying this joined as well

>>64573067
Crazy how you're talking to yourself by yourself in a thread the day after thanksgiving.
Its truly a lonely life for you.

>>64573145
What has you THIS upset? You want attention then get butthurt when I gift you with it? Do you want me to leave you alone?

>>64573067
>not understanding people can regret their decision to do so.

>>64573502
If only it was so easy to dispel me with such a simple retort.

Robert needs to explain WHY he joined in the first place, as he claims only evil, soulless people join.

Reposting from the last thread:

I’m getting my bachelor’s degree (business, 3.3 GPA) in about 6 months. I’ve always been somewhat interested in joining since high school, but I decided to work and go to school full time instead. I’m gonna be almost 24 y/o when I graduate, how are my chances in going officer in the Air Force, Coast Guard, or Marines? I refuse to enlist simply because of my age and I don’t want to be outranked or take orders from dudes younger than me. Or am I better off becoming a fed and joining an agency? Does the latter make more money? Will military service enhance my resume for federal positions?

>>64573996
>3.3 gpa in Business
>Air Force
Bad, your GPA is nowhere near competitive and OTS is hyper selective
>Coast Guard
Don't know their process
>Marines
Possible, be in great shape, look up the PT test and try and max out the scores. You likely have a Marine O Recruiter at your school
>I refuse to enlist simply because of my age
You're 24, that's like average age for enlisting Air Force these days
>Will military service enhance my resume for federal positions?
YMMV, depends a lot what you do and what you will do when you get out

Maybe consider Army, your GPA is pretty low for a business degree and I already know you're not competitive for the Navy or the Air Force, I've heard Marines take in a lot of candidates with the understanding a large portion will attrition out of OCS. Honestly Army is likely your best bet unless you can miracle a 3.5 GPA out your ass last second and have helluva good letters of recommendation from some guys with full birds or stars on their chest (and 3.7 in Business tends to be were chances get decent with shitty LORs)

>>64572640
ME A school wait is over a year right now. Training itself felt like a never ending nightmare the first few weeks, but it prepared me for the stakes of weeks 5 6 and 7. Week 8 was a dream but that's dependent on who your CCs are. You have to be LOUD, memorize all your required knowledge, and remain focused or you'll be kicked back for extra weeks of training. Pass your inspections or you'll get kicked back too. The mental stress is insane but you get used to it. >>64572829
I don't know

How do i go about changing my contract from reserves to active? I'm currently in the army DEP

>>64574617
Discuss this with your recruiter. You aren't locked into anything yet.

>>64573996
Coast Guard won’t take you either for officer. They really only accept fleet ascensions (enlisted coastie to officer) and your degree/GPA is not what they want for any DCO program.

Marines MAY take you but you have to remember that Marine OCS also includes you going to Marine bootcamp. I’ll look more into Marine OCS but full transparency is that I’m a Naval Officer so the process is different.

>>64574111
>Training itself felt like a never ending nightmare the first few weeks

Are you talking about the education or the physical aspect? Were you in good shape going in etc?

>>64573996
What kind of things do you want to do? The options you mentioned are unrelated.

>>64575069
There is this constant pressure on you. Every single minute is accounted for. You are on a timer and have an objective to meet no matter the task. You'll be outside doing pushups then told you have 6 minutes to get upstairs, use the head, hydrate, and get to the main muster. You have to be shouting the objective while you do this. If you're late, if you're not shouting, you'll be punished. Do it enough, you'll be head back. You might have the objective to hold a weight in the air and yell. Slack off, let your arms bend, don't give mad volume, same thing, held back a week. Extrapolate this to every minute of every hour of every day for several weeks. As for the knowledge, there's a lot. Well over 100 different items you need to commit to memory and recite (when you speak you have to shout don't forget, and preface everything correctly with no hesitation). Fuck up enough, held back another week. I felt my worst at the end of week 2. Didn't know how I was going to make it. Fucked up my knowledge twice in two days when questioned. Wasn't loud. Was at the point of tears one night holding my rifle in the air shouting. I closed my eyes to keep them back, and a CC came over and wrote my name on a list for going into lala land, lol. But I started to turn the corner during week 3, I was more confident speaking, I could get loud, I kept my knowledge up on schedule, and I kept my composure when the going got tough. We were kicking people back all the way until the last week for knowledge gaps. The last person to get kicked back for slacking on the physical was week 6. The physical side wasn't crazy hard, but it hurt. Yelling everything hurts. Holding your arms over your head with a 5lb weight on and off for an hour hurts. You had to push through the hurt, that's what they were looking for. I was in decent enough shape. Passed the PT test the first week and did well on the final PT week 7. The biggest key for me was always staying focused, no matter the task at hand

How do I prepare myself for the stressors of BCT
I suffer from anxiety as it is, and as my ship date draws near I am having second thoughts

>>64575727
Chat, is this true about Coast Guard boot camp?
nta but this sounds so strict compared to the other stories I've heard.

>>64576087
Just work out a couple times a week so you're not showing up completely out of shape. Half the stress of BCT is just getting used to exercising for people who rarely or never do it. You're likely to graduate either way, but if you show up able to knock out 30 pushups versus not being able to do one you'll stress a lot less over the whole thing.
Watch some videos of the major BCT events on youtube if you're psyching yourself out about what to expect. It's honestly just a big adult summer camp if you look past the Full Metal Jacket LARP.

>>64576203
It's true anon. I just lived it. If you have any questions about the specifics please ask.

>>64576203
USCG junior enlisted get thrown into IRL, public-facing roles and missions on day 1 out of boot camp. Other branches go into more training/garrison/whatever until a deployment happens. So the expectations are different,

>t. uscg E then O

>>64576232
I'm actually pretty /fit/, I just get anxious in intense situations. Like, the thought of being screamed at for 10 weeks and being rushed everywhere is what's scaring me.

>>64570248
I told my family I was going to join the Marines and they told me to atleast join the Navy, so same situation.

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>>64575727
Thanks for the info, I plan on heading out this spring. I'll be sure to have all my shit memorized from the Helmsman prior to arriving. Did you have all of that info dialed in before you arrived?

Also what rate are you going?

>>64576203
Apparently the only harder bootcamp is the Marines and even the Marines give coasties credit for their boot camp.

Coast guard is pretty selective on every level for who gets in

Is there any benefit to joining the Marines? It almost seems like a branch for masochists.

>>64576512
The image is the French Foreign Legion

>>64576707
That IS the appeal, having it harder than everyone else
Marines don't have good bases (Lejeune/Jville is a shithole, 29 palms is the fucking desert, and Pendleton is hardly a crown jewel)
You will be micromanaged to fuck (like what you're allowed to wear off base, or when/where/how you PT)
You will have worse living conditions (mold is everywhere in marine barracks)
List goes on

This is easy to sell during wartime but a disaster during peacetime. There's a reason the limit before waivers is like 28 or 29.

>>64572613
How rare of an opportunity is picking your rate before shipping out?

>>64576707
>You value cool uniforms over your quality of life
>You're autistically obsessed with the concept of combined arms
>You have low self esteem and want to do something tough (but not Ranger Regiment level of tough) and renowned to prove yourself
>You want to be an embassy guard
>Camaraderie and shit

>>64576756
>Marines don't have good bases
I would argue Marines have better base locations than the Army does. As for quality of the base itself, I don't know, Marines probably lose that one.

>>64576473
You'll feel genuinely anxious for like the first day of reception battalion and the first day of BCT. After that you're basically too tired to feel anxiety anymore.

>>64574860
>Coast Guard won’t take you either for officer...They really only accept fleet ascensions (enlisted coastie to officer) and your degree/GPA is not what they want for any DCO program.
This is the end of November, and I have been waiting since May 2024 - Day 1 of my quest to commission in the CG. In the meantime, I have applied to the Navy as well. My last officer panel - I've had 2 so far, graded me "superb" yet they did not choose me. I called the recruiter back in September and he said that for this current fall class, they took 47 candidates - 2 were civilians, the rest were enlisted. A total joke. I will give them one last shot in January to pick me up, if no go, bye bye

>>64576707
If you're a masochist, you'll love it, but you will hate every other branch.

>>64576586
The only thing I had dialed in were my general orders. I took a while to get my chain of command dialed in but after that everything else came easy enough. You'll learn how to study in a way that works for you. I never studied my helmsman. I'm going BM and eventually will apply for OCS.
>>64577045
It's not rare, a ton of people do it, but there was no bonus to guarantee BM and I wanted to see what life was like as a non rate before I became the boss of one.

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What are some good movies about life in the Air Force?

What's going on at Fort Riley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M__E83_tTf4

>guy known as a prolific drug user
How are these people able to stay in if they are famous for being drug users on base?

>>64578604
What's going on at Ft. Bragg? Ft. Hood?

>>64578604
>>64578608
What's the avoid-at-all-cost list up to now?

If I fail SOF selection in my country what are my perspectives after that?

How it is like to serve in an airborne unit?

>>64578976
What country?

>>64579128
I have two passports, lithuanian and brazilian

>>64579344
And which country’s SOF are you trying out for?

>>64579395
I am taking advantage of my Lithuanian passport so I will try a military career there.

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>>64578319

>>64570035
Thinking about joining the military so I can be accepted as a combat volunteer for Ukraine when I get out, do you have any advice?

>>64579813
Didn't most non-GWOT vets turn out to be massive burdens in Ukraine?

>>64579915
According to who?

>>64579813
You can just volunteer now. The war will be over by the time you complete your contract with the Army or Marines.

>>64579915
nta but hajjí war vets would not know how this war is fought because they did not fight wars between two nation states they fought a different fight all together.

So... does your dream list matter or do they throw all that shit out the window when they give you your orders?

>>64580629
It definitely can have an influence, but needs of the service come first. If there isn't any availability for your first two duty stations but there is for your 3rd or 4th, your 3rd will be prioritized if possible and no effort made for your 1st and 2nd.

>>64580629
This
>>64580792
But it also depends if you want a bonus. Unless you're going into a super high-demand MOS, you won't get a bonus and a choice of duty station at the same time.

>>64580549
>You can just volunteer now
They're not accepting volunteers without previous military experience for combat roles, I already checked.

>>64579915
The Ukraine war is so different than most other wars because of drones, budgets and of course crowd funding. Even some people going there say the war changes so rapidly that they're essentially new if they went back a year later.

>>64581576
You clearly didn't check then. I am in active communication with Azov about a drone operator position, and I will be heading over there in a couple of months to receive training from WeTrueGun.

What'll be your next excuse?

Don't join the military.

>>64581576
>>64579813
They in fact are accept volunteers without experience. Just talk with your recruiter

https://www.ildu.com.ua/

>>64582145
You can still volunteer but they'll shuffle you off to a non-combat position since they already have a surplus of soldiers lining up to volunteer for frontline duty as is.

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Can any intel guys tell me about their field?
>how is your job security post-service?
>how much can i expect to make after my contract?
>best branch/MOS to break in to intel?
Tired of working in a field where it feels like there's a knife above my head and I could get laid off at any time for any reason (software engineering). I want stability and $$$.

>>64583156
The funniest part about intel jobs is that they can’t tell you what their job (except the most basic cursory parts) until they get clearance. My buddy is crypto officer in the navy and they didn’t tell him anything about his job until he got his clearance.

Best intel jobs are Navy btw.

Daily reminder the only 2 people to ever post dd214 both said the military is a horrible decision.

Don't believe the neverserveds and recruiters.

>>64583516
USMC Veteran. I regret accepting my medical retirement.

Although the military was gay 75% of the time. Civilian life is gayer 97% of the time.

I would do anything to go back.

>>64582995
What the fuck are you talking about? It's 100% guarantee to see combat and with a high risk of death. They are recruiting rifleman's, not fucking desk jobs

>>64583516
Nobody wants to post their DD-214 here because they all know you're just going to repost it and falsely claim you served (again). Hell, the last DD-214 you posted had a fucking digital timestamp instead of a paper timestamp.

>>64583545
Is 27 too old to join the military?

>>64583546
>They are recruiting rifleman's
Exactly, they want people with riflemen experience, you're useless to them otherwise.

>>64583570
No, but you're getting close

>>64583577
>you're useless to them otherwise
https://wetruegun.com/en/

Again, where the fuck are you getting this information? Why are you just making shit up on the internet?

>>64583587
I was told way back in 2015 by people in the field that Ukraine has a surplus of soldiers and that if you're a volunteer without previous military experience they won't accept you for a combat role.

>>64583594
>I was told way back in 2015
Back in 2015, Barack Obama was the President of the United States and people were debating whether Lady Gaga had a penis. A lot of shit has changed in the world in the past 10 years.

>>64583607
Yes but Ukraine hasn't suffered that many casualties and they've gotten a big surge of volunteers from the Russian invasion, they don't need every Bob the Accountant to hold a rifle, they want elite soldiers.

>>64583615
Are you on read-only mode? There are numerous non-combat opportunities in Ukraine, and I just provided a link to an organization that can get an English-speaking civilian with no combat experience flying combat drones trained up in under 2 months.

Stop pretending to be retarded. We already know that you are a wanna-be vatnigger that has strong opinions about how the Soviets waged war in Afghanistan vs the US.

>>64583615
>>64583594
Man for fuck sake, just apply to the army/legion and talk to your recruiter

>>64583627
>There are numerous non-combat opportunities in Ukraine
Work on your reading comprehension, we're talking about combat opportunities, not non-combat opportunities, we're talking about killing vatniggers, not doing truck maintenance or whatever bullshit behind the linies.

>>64583570
NTA but it's all what you make of it bro. I've seen people burnt out of civilian life only to shine in the army at nearly 30, starting all over.

If you're curious there are worse ways to spend 4 years. Not even a recrooter but it changed my life. I

>>64583639
>hurr durr Ukraine only wants riflemen
>duhhh you can't read

Literally shut your fucking retard mouth. There are people volunteering on all varieties of tasks over there, hence why I said "non combat". You have people volunteering in motor pool, in hospitals, in childcare, in firefighting, in construction, in air defense, and more. If Anon wants to actually kill people as badly as I want to strange you, flying drones is the absolute best decision. Drone operators have kill counts in the hundreds, and I am sure some are near or at a thousand.

>>64583639
Nta

https://joinuarmy.org/en/

Here, you can apply directly to a assault unit, without previous experience and see combat almost immediately.

>>64583656
I sincerely hope he does and gets thrown in the Pokrovsk pocket with a rusty hand shovel and a clown costume.

>>64583650
>ou have people volunteering in motor pool, in hospitals, in childcare, in firefighting, in construction, in air defense, and more
Yes, but those people have the experience for those jobs, if you want a job shooting at vatniks you want to make sure you have previous military experience otherwise they'll just shuffle you off to a civilian job.

>>64583656
Yes I know what they say on there but I've talked to people in the field, if you don't have previous experience in the military they're gonna shift you around to a POG job.

>>64583676
I think you just wanna larp as a Ukrainian Foreign Legionnaire instead of actually enlisting

>>64583676
You talked to people IN TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN! YOUR INFORMATION IS A DECADE OUT OF DATE AND WAS RELAYED WHEN THE COUNTRY WAS NOT BEING INVADED! HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU FUCKING MORON

>>64583676
Instead of wasting your time why don't you talk with a recruiter?

>>64583686
Right, because Ukraine would somehow have fewer volunteers AFTER the Russian invasion than before, get real.

>>64583706
I already linked for you >>64583656
You can apply to rifleman directly without previous military experience

>>64583732
You may have missed what he posted, but he's just seeding a talking point so he can respond to himself and imitate a conversation that propagates shit he read on /pol/. He is a vatnigger troll and not the original person that we were responding to.

>>64583732
What you apply for and what you actually get are two very different things.

>>64583745
Ah yes, famous vatnigger points such as Ukraine having so many volunteers they're able to obe picky with them, as we all know it's common propaganda to understate your enemies casualties so they appear more competent than your own troops you fucking vatnik retard

>>64583778
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64570035/#q64583714

The archives don't lie. And in case anyone doesn't think this thread isn't actively targeted, take a look at 134 posts here but 190 according to the archive. 66 deleted posts in 4 days.

>>64583783
Sounds like your problem is whoever the fuck that person is you falseflagging vatnigger

>>64583792
>vatnigger actively promoting ways to serve in the AFU
You got caught, so just walk away and troll somewhere else.

>>64583570
No, but you better hurry. If you wanna join the USMC age limit is 28. Other branches are more lenient.

I joined in my early 20's and was the 'old' guy most of the time. If you can put up with a kid not old enough to drink telling you what to do for a few years, it's not a big deal.

I've seen multiple 28 year olds, one was def a gang banger, got kicked out eventually for DUI's and shit. The other was a beta, and hid his age, until we needed PII for deployment and shit got weird when we realized he was 30 something faking he was in his early 20s. One dude I joined my unit with was a fucking UNIT... promoted quickly and was an awesome guy.

It's what you make of it bro.

>>64583799
Why the fuck would a vatnigger be promoting service in the AFU you retard? If you're going to spout your propaganda bullshit at least try to make it a little believable.

>>64583818
You're telling people NOT to join unless they have combat experience and three separate people have proven you wrong. End of discussion.

>>64583835
I haven't told anyone not to join fucktard, I'm the one telling people how to join.

>>64579813
I wouldn't recommend it, by the time you get done with your 4 years Ukraine will probably have already won. Unless you're waiting for the next war you missed your shot.

>>64583876
>Ukraine will probably have already won
I know this is /meg/ and all, but you're deluded if you think Ukraine is going to come out of this victorious.

Anyway, back on topic.

>>64583558
>making an excuse

>>64583156
35N here
>how is your job security post-service?
kinda depends, if you do 1 contract you probably won't qualify for a lot of contractor positions as most want at least 5 years of experience. if you have a degree the exp requirement goes down and it goes down further the more advanced your degree is. for government positions its been hit or miss lately, especially with DOGE and all that shit going on.
I strongly recommend lurking clearancejobs, usajobs, and intelligencecareers regularly to get your finger on the pulse of the cleared industry.
>how much can i expect to make after my contract?
really depends on what qualifications you have when you get out. get your degree while in and a lot of doors open up, get at least 5YOE and even more open. some cleared positions start at like $40k but that's for like guard/security shit. FYSA this opening literally just got posted recently in your career field: https://www.clearancejobs.com/jobs/8651259/software-engineer so take a look at what they're asking for and see if joining the military would get you closer towards that or not.
>best branch/MOS to break in to intel?
Navy or Army

>>64584709
Had a stroke while typing this.
>job security
Kinda two paths for this: contracting and government. It's faster and easier to make big bucks as a contractor*, but it's also easier to be let go, and whether that happens can also depend on government decisions about funding different contracts or terminating them. The recent shutdown inverted this dynamic a bit, as contractors kept grinding away while govvies were furloughed and uncertain about their pay, but most of the time there's a little bit of tension with contractors because their employers can always dump them for someone better at their job. See also my comments about YOE needed to break into contracting. On the flip side, it's harder to get hired as a govvie and takes longer, but once you're in and past your probation period, you're basically in for good unless you fuck up hard. There are also pay caps for govvies, tied to specific pay scales, which will still push into the mid-$200k range at the top end for very senior government workers but won't go crazy high at any point. Much easier to stay in and retire securely as a govvie, from what I've seen.
It's not uncommon to take a meandering route to a govvie position, either mil->contractor->govvie or contractor->govvie or mil->govvie. Again really depends on your experience, specific skills/certifications/qualifications, and your networking.

>>64574072
Are my chances the same even if I go Air National Guard (California)? Personally Army and Navy sound boring so no. I wanna work in Intelligence and/or avoid combat (not dying for Israel). I can probably manage the 3.5+ GPA if I take a few more BS classes next semester.

>>64575638
Intelligence or something that will get me a job in the government. As of right now I would probably join the officer reserves/NG in either the Marines or Air Force, using the experience and security clearance to land a job in the state or government agencies.

>>64585139
>Intelligence
0% chance, brother. I'm not trying to be mean but Intel is not lacking people applying and it's competitive. You don't have a relevant degree or a STEM degree and your GPA is very low (You're looking 3.7 in STEM or 3.9+ nonSTEM to be competitive). Officer reserves tends to be even more competitive because they're looking for people who already work in the intelligence field who can part time come in as subject experts.
I'm curious, why you are ok with Marines but not the Army?
As it is right now for you, and I'm being sincere, I wouldn't recommend you waste your time with the Air Force. sitting around waiting 2 years after you start the process for a board just to tell you "no". I hate to crush dreams but officer intel is not enlisted intel

>>64585139
Air National Guard would be even more competitive as you’re now going against active duty transfers into reserves. You are not getting an AF commission with a (not even confirmed) 3.5 gpa with a business degree, full stop. I don’t even want to entertain you and tell you about the OTS process reality because you will not get there.

You will not get an officer position in the Marine Reserves for the same reason as above (you’re going against active transfers into reserves). MAYBE you could get a commission into active duty marines if you just so happen to be a fitness guy/girl but an intelligence gig is not a confirmed possibility as Marines do not let you pick your job. You’d pick a general field of interest and within that interest they give you an officer job that’s needs of the Marines.

Navy/Army are your only options and I’m not even sure Navy would pick you up for intel officer. Army has this whole process where you’re graded on your OCS performance and then pick from a list of officer jobs (intel may not be on that list or have only 1 spot open) so that’s another toss up.

>>64584356
>t. Seething vatnik

>>64586074
IIRC the Army started letting you pick your MOS if you have a relevant degree, but he doesn't.
Navy will not pick that up for intelligence. If it was a Political Science, History, Linguistics, or STEM degree that GPA might fly. As it is, 3.5 and even 3.3 isn't terrible in the Navy side since the ASTB/OAR is weighed very heavily, and he could potentially go SNA, NFO, or SWO if he aces the test

>>64585139

read
>>64585162
>>64586074


You join the Marine Corps if you want to be a Marine. It sounds gay, but I promise you the corps WILL fuck up your little roadmap. Its not a matter of if, or when, but how the green weenie will fuck your plans.

That being said I wouldn't join any other branch. It was all worth it. Just be aware the other branches give you way more freedom for life and career.

How's Alaska for a duty station?

>>64587898
Wainwright is hell. Anchorage is pretty great.

I don't know if you can choose between the two under option 19. I doubt many people seek out Alaska though.

>Another Sergeant Major under investigation for mishandling money
It keeps happening bros.

>>64588123
What blew up?

leaving for boot in 6 days
for those who have previously joined in the winter how should i dress?
wil you be out in the cold for the majority of day 1 or is it just for a short time so i can dress for the indoors instead of the 20 degree outdoors

>>64583570
Nigga I'm heading to boot camp at 33. Either you are cut out for it or you aren't.

>>64588172
to clarify navy boot camp in great lakes

>>64588172
>>64588187
During this time of year, your outdoor time will be limited because it is absolutely fucking freezing. You will be very surprised by how warm your winter gear will keep you when you are outdoors.

Can I be an army ranger if I have situational anxiety in public speaking situations? I’m physically prepared and I’m not some kind of pussy or antisocial freak. I do kickboxing and judo and I mentor less experienced students and I have a girlfriend. I just have this problem where my throat seizes up if I have to say something in front of large groups of people I don’t know and it causes me to not be able to speak. I normally take beta blockers before meetings where I’ll have to speak, but that kind of medication would probably interfere with combat effectiveness since it stops your body from releasing adrenaline.
I read that rangers are expected to have leadership qualities, I assume this means commanding large groups of soldiers and planning out attacks and raids and stuff. Will my “disability” interfere with my ability to do this?

>>64588812
If it's diagnosed, who knows.
If not diagnosed, you'll either be forced to get over that in basic training or you'll wash out long before you even can go to ranger school

>>64588812
Nigga stop frying your brain with beta blockers and join a toast masters club

>>64587745
I didn’t mention SNA/NFO or SWO since he wanted an intel gig. Though, side note, SWO is always an option since the Navy lets ANYONE join that designator. SWO shouldn’t even require a college degree but I digress.

>>64589665
What do all of those acronyms mean?

>>64589666
Student Naval Aviator (Pilots), Naval Flight Officer (Pilots but not really they sit in the back seat and do all the weapons/radar/electronic warfare work), and Surface Warfare Officer (basic Naval Officer does things like navigation of the warship, driving the warship, engineering division officer, gunnery officer, etc)

>>64589666
Surface Naval Aviator, fly planes
Naval Flight Officer, 2nd guy in the jet
Surface/Submarine Warfare Officer, you get to be stressed as fuck for 8 years then you get to have one of the jobs a Star Trek character has

>>64589671
Shit I still got OCS brain thinking that SNA stood for “student” naval aviator. Some things just never leave you

>>64589670
>>64589671
What's an aviator?

>>64589678
low grade rage baiting, please try again

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>>64589678
C'mon man

>>64589677
SNA does stand for Student Naval Aviator. The only thing with Surface in it is SWO.

>>64589694
Yeah >>64589671 here, I realized my mistake after posting and saw he got it right. SNA becomes NA and SNFO becomes NFO. I just assumed it was SNA fleet side because I've just heard people say "Pilot" instead, while NFOs will say NFO

>>64576756
I liked Lejeune desu. I could see how its not great if you're young and single though.

>>64589708
What's Lejeune?

>>64588812
What a stupid reason to be a failure.

>>64588187
Most of your time in Navy bootcamp is inside anyway. The only time you'll be outside is when your division is walking from one building to another.

>>64589716
Ask your mother or read the comment I responded to...

>>64589729
Which buildings?

>>64589678
>>64589716
>>64589747
Robert

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>>64589769
ah, a fellow Marcus the Worm enjoyer

Which has a better culture in general, Army or Air Force?
I want to join the Army but my dad who is retired Army swears the Air Force is the way to go.

>>64590921
Navy has the best culture. Air Force has no brotherhood, the army is just the bottom of the barrel branch.

>>64590921
Air Force is much more like a job, outside maintenance its pretty chill. Army is full of hood rats and criminals and you'll get a lot more stupid shit like waking up 4 hours early for a formation that starts 3 hours after you get there. Also a lot of schools pad with smoking you instead of just teaching the skills.
>>64590943
Navy has a lot of culture but living conditions are shit on a boat. Chiefs and Officers are main characters who will act like you're an NPC.

>>64591384
Once you spend enough time around sailors, you'll understand exactly why there is an emphasis on separating the enlisted from the commissioned. I shudder to think how much worse it must be with less disciplined navies

>>64591384
We do not treat all enlisted as NPCs. Now E-3 and below…

>>64591592
>>64591482

did a cruise with with the Navy as a Marine.

lower enlisted are bottom of the barrel for EVERYTHING. Sailors have legit caste systems within caste systems.

As Marines, we are all bottom of the barrel unless you're O-3+, so it's not as bad since we all eat shit. You're either a boot until you're not then you're good to go.

If I call / text the veteran crisis line what happens? I dont want to kill myself or anything like that. Im just in a dark place and want to talk to someone.

>>64591778
I hear the E4 mafia on board is some legit cloak-n-dagger shit. I thought they keep Marines and Sailors pretty separated....

>>64592303
very separated, i was on a big deck, so experience may vary.
different gym times, different chow lines, different berthings, different areas we were allowed to go and not go, different smoke pits, etc.

other than getting my ID renewed, and saying "morning chief" to the hundreds of chiefs on board, I did not interact with sailors at all.

Curious what kind of jobs in the US military I might be good for.

I'm 28 and have been working in ai research and cybersecurity for a few years. Hopped around a bit, got to L6 level in the tech world. Beyond that is management with i'm not necessarily against, but i'm not doing it just to make a bunch of indian people rich. But now looking for a reset and do something with more purpose than get rich fast.

I have a degree in mathematics, 3.5 GPA from a top 10 school. I hope to go the officer route since dad and grandpa were officers and i'm no punk, but i also want to do something interesting and not be too underutilized. Also fluent in Russian so there's that.

What kind of paths in the military I can take a look at? anything but marines desu.

>>64592617
Skip the military and apply for an intel agency or cleared contractor position, you're practically a shoe-in if you can get a clearance.

Was anyone else scared to join the military because of movies like Saving Private Ryan? Watching war movies makes it seem like your chance to end up a horrible screaming casualty is really high. I always wondered how anyone has the motivation to not just cower behind cover during combat the whole time.
Later in life I read some war books and it mitigated my fear of combat somewhat, but it was too late.

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>friend recently got back from ait
>mfw he learned combatives
>show him my martial arts skills
>mfw hfw i know bjj too
>show him defendu
>mfw he cant pretend to draw pistol
>mfw he doesnt like fingers in his eyes

>>64592617
Navy
>Cryptologic Warfare Officer
>Information Professional Officer
>Intelligence Officer
>Cyber Warfare Engineer
Realistically you can be just about anything besides like a JAG or Medical if you wanted. STEM degree with good GPA. Not sure how competitive you are with Air Force but if you're willing to wait a few years I'd definitely look at them with your degree.

>>64592293
lol pussy nobody cares

>>64588812
Robert

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>>64592293
also Robert

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>>64593638

We gotta get after it
We really need to get after it
We need to move the ball downfield

What are the most desirable duty stations in the army?

What posts have the most servicemen on servicemen crime? I am guessing Fort Hood.

What posts have the most servicement on randoms crime? I am guessing some OCONUS spots?

>>64584744
>>64584709
Thanks for the reply anon.
I was under the impression that veteran status + clearance = easy access to high-paying jobs for life, but I guess I was mistaken?

>>64595957
If that's what you got from this, you are doomed to never experience professional success

>>64596158
You are either mistaken or trolling.
Before reading your post, I thought that an enlistment in cyber/intel would mean you were almost guaranteed to make $100k+ and had excellent job security.
After reading your post, my impression is that while the pay may be high, your job security would be comparable to a civilian unless you worked as a govvie.
Am I incorrect? If so, how?

>>64596197
I suppose I overestimated your understanding of how the professional world works. You only want certainty in a world where there is none. If you are looking for an excuse to not try, I suppose you could find that no matter what you are told

>>64596197
ig if you work in intel your employment is at the pleasure of the current government/managemenet/policy objectives.

How would you suggest someone prepare for basic training if starting from nothing?

I can do 3 pullups, about 15 pushups and a 9 minute mile with breaks.

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bros, there's a smoke alarm in my apartment (one of the neighboring units I mean) that's doing the battery low beep. Not sure when maintenance is going to get around to replacing that battery, but it made me think: Do black people do really well in (the torture portion of) SERE school? You know how they manage to ignore their smoke alarm chirps to the point they supposedly don't even hear it anymore? Are they able to shut out audio torture and just be like :) the whole time?

>>64595883
Camp Zama.
One of those bases in Bavaria, I forgot which one.
Fort Meade if you're a nerd.
Most Air Force bases.

>>64596822
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ

it's in the OP

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>>64595898
Look up The Fort Bragg Cartel

in airborne linguist pipeline. looks like im gonna make it all the way through.

i realized too late i dont wanna go to SERE. is it that bad? should i fake having colorblindness so i can get reclassed to ground linguist?

>>64598488
What language?

>>64598488
Sere only sucks for like ~3 days. You’ll be fine

>>64598514
Where are you currently stationed?

>>64598584
why are you asking these questions?

>>64598572
what is suck though? is it i'll be scarred for the rest of my life or 'oh that sucked, lol, makes for good stories'

>>64598592
I just want to know where you're learning Chinese.

>>64598592
>oh that sucked, lol, makes for good stories
It'll be like that. It's a military school meant to teach you valuable skills, not a punishment.
>>64598597
Get a job loser

>>64598607
I have a job; I work nights.

>>64598592
The part where they capture you and put you in a cell and play annoying sounds over and over to “break” you. It’s supposed to simulate being a POW. You don’t get fed much or at all and they can strike you with open palm strikes. Like it said it only lasts like ~3ish days. The rest of the time is power points and classroom learning.

>>64598628
I like how they assume every other country is as cruel and evil towards prisoners as we are lol

>>64596822
definitely gotta pump those numbers up.
especially the pushups. dont do the eccentric.
run more.
do more back and legs weight training.

>>64598633
It’s supposed to simulate being captured by GWOT-esqe terrorists. Not really a developed nation.

>>64598633
>>64598641
Lord Miles was captured by the taliban and he basically got a free hotel stay with 5 bunkmates.
Not everyone is subject to the same torture. Just soldiers.

>>64598641
Really? Because it sounds identical to the shit we do at Guantanamo Bay lol

>>64598654
Not my fault dumbasses voted for Bush.

>>64598645
YMMV, I always thought it was more of a training to strengthen your spirit/willpower.

>>64598670
Are you under the impression we stopped torturing prisoners in 2009?

>>64598678
Look bro just go to /pol/. I’m just here to get paid twice and month and have free healthcare.

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>>64598682

>>64593596
>/meg/: join the military! It gives you all these awesome benefits!
>veteran asks about said benefits
>lol what a bitch

Shit like this makes me glad I never joined.

>>64598903
A troll spends every day trying to shit this thread up with his negativity. You are responding to him, not to anyone who actually served or is serving. What's even funnier is you are actually responding to him responding to himself, because he likes to seed his own talking point bait (crime, suicide, homelessness, trannies, the usual), so whats really happening here is as follows

>troll wants to mock veterans that have killed themselves
>he pretends to be a suicidal vet asking for help
>troll then wants to make vets look like callous assholes and give illusion of no support
>he pretends to be an asshole to himself
>troll has now played every role in his own stage play

>>64598975
What do you mean every role? You forgot the part where he responds to his asshole post pretending to be someone who wanted to serve but was "smart enough" to not join, as if joining the military is the biggest mistake a person could ever make. THAT is the complete circle, as his entire modus operandi is literally just "don't join the military (unless you are from a country that hates the US)"

>>64598987
You're forgetting the part where you pretends to call himself out and lay out his "master plan" to make himself seem more omnipresent than he actually is.

>>64599002
No, I am actually a different person. He hates being called out almost as much as he hates General Milley, or being reminded of how buckbroken he is compared to his anti-vaxx, Dirlewanger worshipping self that he used to be. His "perfect day" is one where he can merrily pretend to be a veteran and give false information and lie to prospective candidates without ever being called out. He would love to have his own soap box, freely frothing at the mouth about trannies and women in uniform, and about how based the Soviets were for killing women and children in Afghanistan, while also claiming he is a perfect Christian despite admitting to going to casinos on Sunday mornings instead of church.

does the uso actually do useful stuff for you guys?
i get loads of mail from them soliciting donations

>>64599093
Those donations all go straight to the Bob Hope estate.

>>64599072
I stop when he stops. We're about to mark 6 years, with /meg/ still here and the troll still butthurt that /meg/ exists

>>64599225
You know what his tell is? He literally CANNOT stop replying to me. He HAS to come back, he HAS to try to win, all because I made fun of him for worshipping a child rapist and he can't ever let go.

>>64598903
based neverserved

>>64599432
I love how there was literally a dude asking for help with something military related and no one wanted to help him.

>>64600136
>>64600149
>>64600168
>>64600175
What's got you so upset? Is it me again?

>>64600136
see>>64598975


>>64600149
see >>64570548

>>64600728
>no one has answered a legitimate question about mental health care.
>it's a troll question.

>>64600731
>I'm not mad, YOU'RE MAD!
Robert, I've already explained this to you numerous times. I am here solely to make YOU upset. Please point to any of my posts where I have shilled or supported the US military in any way. All I do is trigger you and make you sputter with impotent rage by stripping you of the anonymity you are trying to weaponize. I would treat you the same way if I bothered to stalk you on /ck/

>>64600739
I always know when it's you, Robert. ALWAYS. Remember, your tell is that you CANNOT stop replying to me.

>>64600849
As I said, you CANNOT stop reply to me. You MUST reply to me. You've been trained, nay groomed, to respond to ME. I remind you regularly that all you have to do to be rid of me is to stop coming back, but since you keep coming back, your presence is implied consent to continue to torture your mind. Reflect back on how different your messaging is from just a couple of years ago, and wonder what else will change in a couple of years from now. I know full and well your stubbornness will compel you to keep coming back, convince you can "win".

What would victory even look like for you? Do you even know what your mission is anymore?

>>64585162
To be specific, my degree will be in Systems and Operations Management, so think of IT. Does that sound any better?
>I'm curious, why you are ok with Marines but not the Army?
I already said there's nothing cool about the Army to me. Not only that, I know that the Army is the only branch where those who wish to commission must basically attend enlisted boot camp first before actual OCS. Why do Army candidates have to waste time with BCT?
Most of the guys I knew in high school went Marines, and I always thought those boot camp videos were badass.

>>64586074
>You will not get an officer position in the Marine Reserves for the same reason as above (you’re going against active transfers into reserves).
Active duty isn't totally out of the question. It's because I know signing away those four years will cap my yearly earnings. For instance, a CHP officer will make way more money in those four years. Not that I'd ever want to be a cop, just an example.

>>64587824
I hate to admit but it's the title and training that is appealing to me. At the same time, I know I shouldn't break down my body for ZOG. I could have a cushier life and get paid the same in another branch.

All that being said, its been almost 6 years since I graduated HS, at this point I will not join unless as an officer. What jobs are open to me with a Business/IT degree that will benefit my civilian career?

>>64602097
Supply Corps in the Navy, Logistics every other branch, is the Business Degree path. Admittedly a pretty sweet gig because you get experience in management and supply chain stuff on a pretty large scale, I'm not sure about other branches but Navy sends you to get your MBA around the time you hit O4 and keeps you on payroll as a commissioned officer while all you do is go to university for 2 years. I wll admit I'm not sure what the Marines do, but I'd assume it's likely similar. Getting out O-5/O-6 in Supply/Logistics is pretty great if you got in young because you get the solid pension with a decent resume and can spend a lot of time shilling yourself on LinkedIn since you have enough money to be comfortable but you're eligible to make big bucks in the business world.
>Why do Army candidates have to waste time with BCT?
Because they enlist their officer candidates as 09S with the idea if you fail OCS they can repurpose you. Each branch filters differently.
>Army recycles people they don't want to be officers as enlisted
>Air Force filters you before you go
>Marines accept too many people, knowing a large amount fail, so they can filter people while they're training
>Navy expects 60% of officers to leave after their obligation, relies on GPA and ASTB/OAR and just adjusts minimum score yearly depending on needs

>>64602097
>ZOG
Yet another time wasting Robert lie.

>>64602496
>only one person uses "ZOG"

>>64602882
Only one person spams that nonsense word here every day.

>>64603018
Not so much anymore. He used to, but he has been buckbroken pretty hard. Besides, he would never put that much effort into writing a post. He is a very lazy troll that thinks "showing up" is good enough, but the only reason he continues to show up is because I brainwashed him into thinking he has to otherwise he will "lose". Lose what? Fuck if I know

>>64603018
nta but ZOG and zogbot is used hundreds of times a day here and on /pol/

Does everyone see how I control him? He is a slave who pulls on his chains and chokes himself in the vain hope that they might scratch my hands. He thinks if he volunteers to be whipped hard enough, my arm might get sore and that would make him the winner.

https://youtu.be/2D-4zgezQE4?si=DjzCDKgx5lGI56MI

>>64603096
okay robert

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My warehouse job has me on my feet alot. As a result I deal with recurring plantar fasciitis.
I know that basic has you on your feet alot, but how much? Currently I must be on my feet for 4-5 hours at a time with a break inbetween, 5 days a week.
I head off to basic in March. I just want to know how much of every day you spend on your feet at basic so I know when to leave my job and spend that time recovering.

>>64603616
Kinda depends on what you're doing on a given day. You aren't standing 100% of the time in BCT as you have classroom training on some days, mandatory breaks for meals, and bleachers and stuff at ranges. However you will stand for up to an hour or two during long formations and when in the field or at the obstacle course or whatever you will be on your feet all day.

>>64603632
>you will stand for up to an hour or two during long formations
Thats less than I stand right now for sure. Granted my job has a lot of lifting too but regardless.
Thank fuck. I was talking to some buddies of mine who are in and they made it sound like I would be up a lot in basic with no breaks like I do now.

>>64603225
There is a person here that has schizophrenic visions of a man named Robert. The person has never been in the military, and had autistic meltdowns whenever someone critiques the military.

Daily reminder if you're anything other than cyber, intel, or nuclear, your time in the military doesn't do anything to enhance your career prospects or make you more employable post military, and your JST or VMET will be pretty bland.

>>64603682
thank god im going in as intel soon.

>>64603648
So there isn't a guy that comes here almost every day saying "Don't join the military" and talking about the military being a giant drug cartel and criminal empire? Because I sure do see it a lot more than I see any simping

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>>64603810
For reference, these are just the ones that were deleted when the jannies did their mass-removal of Robert's posts. Denying that he doesn't exist has the same energy as the Devil tricking the world into thinking he doesn't exist, except Robert is much stupider and fatter

>>64603822
> Denying that he doesn't exist
So you're uh, asserting he doesn't exist?

>>64603828
Autocorrect is a bitch, just like Robert, who always has to keep running his mouth and talk back

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>yfw your only fan is a fat fuck that has wasted his entire youth on 4chan pretending to be a veteran while he posts gore, pictures of pedo nazis, and whines about trannies because he was such a massive retard that he got kicked out of the Army because he announced his plan to copycat your gamer moment

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>>64604545
Try again

>>64604709
So don't join. Bye.

>>64604720
You wouldn't. Bye.

>>64604732
Do you need anything else? If not, bye.

>gets utterly BTFO'd and humiliated
>has absolutely no response, tries to repeat his weakest talking point
>gets chased off in 3 no-effort replies

It's all true. Robert is giving up. Maybe he will finally put this 5 year crusade behind him and walk into 2026 a new man... a free man... and maybe, just maybe, he will finally start going to church and actually marry a woman and get a good paying job, like he has pretended to in the past. Or... maybe he will keep denying himself a better future just so he can keep coming back here for a 6th year.

>>64604811
Let's be real. The guy has admitted to trolling across dozens of other threads and across multiple boards. Even if he came to terms with the fact that he can't get /meg/ permabanned from /k/ for being off-topic (mods literally confirmed it is on-topic), he is still going to keep shitposting on this board and others.

>>64604811
>>64604902
If he's a "career troll" who has been doing this for 20 years, then maybe he just comes here because he believes he is in good company with the guy that trolls him. Maybe it's not him trying to "win" and prove he is "the best troll", but his stunted form of socialization with someone he perceives to be an equal. Putting it that way, it sounds like the funniest thing that could happen is if he stopped getting trolled and instead faced the same silence on the internet as he does when he turns the computer off.

>>64604991
see >>64604811
Cast your optimism aside. Even as his trolling dulls and devolves into delivering the bare minimum, the sunk cost fallacy applies here. He already gave away his best years to 4chan, so why not give the rest?

>>64605017
Because, as slow as he is, he has finally realized that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, so instead of all of his overly-complicated gambits that required him to pre-write his own copypasta and prepare for serious ideological debates, it finally got through his thick head that the more negative energy he brings, the more energy he will get back. He has reasoned that he hasn't "surrendered" if he still comes here, but acknowledges that he can't "win", especially as 2025's recruiting numbers completely destroyed his view that his ideology was taking hold in the youth. His scope has narrowed from societal change to local disruption.

>>64605077
Right but then that means he takes this extremely personally, rather than just having fun and remaining detached from everything but the humor of trolling. Since when has getting this emotional been an advantage rather than a weakness? Wouldn't he win by actually not giving a fuck, since he has no control over the subject matter he is trolling about?

>>64604991
>>64605017
shut the fuck up, Robert

how feasible (if its possible) would it be to enlist in the usmc as a grunt and then become a pilot later on

>>64606097
100%, very easy

>>64605519
Shut the fuck up, neverserved

>the military is great!
Lol stfu the military sucks
>the military sucks. Don't join
Lol stfu the military is great!

Why is /meg/ like this?

>>64606905
How should it be?

What branch will let me shoot at drug smugglers

>>64606905
It's the duality of neverserveds.

>>64606944
Border patrol

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>get military GIBill
>get bamboozled out of it because low-IQ
Fucking how?
https://youtu.be/7nQapcAaEs0

>>64607099
Tl;dr?

>>64606097
Difficult. Why would you try to do this instead of trying to become a pilot off the bat?

>>64607108
If you haven't heard of the school, its a meme. If you heard of the school from a commercial its also a meme. If the degree is a meme, there are cheaper options. Militaryfags don't believe in researching and instead just do what their retarded friends do, leading to a free stream of revenue for alot of corporations..

>>64607126
You’re not replying to a serious post. Disregard any response you receive from him

>>64607144
And how should this information shape my world view and decision making when joining the military?

>>64607145
Why should they belive you, neverserved?

>>64606097
Its doable. I was grunt adjacent, got my degree while I was in and got picked up for that.

>>64607947
Post DD214 and don't waste your time with your 'Your's gets mine' bullshit. I'm not giving you my DD214 to repost pretending to be a vet.

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>>64608118
>>64608118
>>64608118
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