AK General /akg/New Year, Same Shit Edition>Thread #2085Old thread here >>64623820
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>>64704868It's not price gouging that's just what you actually want costs. You want a meme out of production Valmet that hasn't been made in 50 years now. I'm not the boomer if anything you are for not buying an objectively better Zastava, Beryl, or any other more affordable alternatives. Instead you want an old boomer rifle.
I can pick up an Atlantic bfpu PM md65 build for $800 w/ 2x chink flat backs and 3x yugo bho mags for $800. All matching except for the reverse dong which is numbered to a different gun. Minimal barrel component cant and all rivets look good. Okay deal, right?
First for POLAND FEAR THE AMERICAN HARDNESS. Happy new year too.
Riley ak74 and Tela ammo? Thoughts?
hope all my ak bros have a comfy friday
Proposed to my GF yesterday. She said yes, which I knew she would. Feels like just yestersay when I first posted this Rob Ski-ass WBP on here, but that was before I started talking to her. Hickock45 voice: Life is good!
>>64705786That's a fantastic deal and you should already have bought it.>>64707246>Riley akGarbage>Tela ammoFine and corrosive as all combloc ammo should be.>>64707924God bless anon may you marry her and fill your home with many more AK enthusiasts
Did I do gud?>go to LGS>rummaging through a bucket the owner has of random mags>notice something distinctly orange>mfw 3 bakesI got them for $65 each. Two are "ridge" backs, and one is a "flat" back.
>>64708129Also two are "Cyrillic" numbers, if that matters.
I want to get into AKs but I'm torn on the ammo choices. I like the idea of 7.62x39 because it's big and bold and significantly different from 5.56x45 which I usually shoot. Is it still viable in currentyear or does 7.62x39 belong in a museum?
>>64708129>>64708131Pre-covid prices, good find. The cyrillics are a little more valuable.>>647082207.62x39 only reasonable choice.
>>64708220x39 isn't bad usually. Right now it's in a fucky situation due to current monke shenanigans though.
>>647082355.45? Yeah I agree
>>64708324>5.45Begone hipster. That shit died with the 7n6 imports.
>>64707093>more unobtanium I wantFuggg.>>64708129Considering I haven't seen any bakes since I bought my last like 7 years ago for $20 (5.45), not bad. And shit, people try to get like $40-50 out of fucking Chinese flatbacks. Still wondering who pisses money away like that.
Speaking of bake mags, how many bake mags is enough? Do you guys actually use them?
>>64708408theyre nothing special, just can't get em anymore. the real sauce is the prototype mags like https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1136910107 or the translucent plastic mags. years back one anon paid $800 for one of the old french stamped fleur de lis mags.
>>64708408yeah I actually use them, they are reliable and look nice out in the sunlight, I have 6 7.62 bakes and 6 5.45 bakes and 4 5.45 plums
>>64708497
>>64708497>>64709499>tfw 7.62 doesn't get cool plum mags and other oddball stuff
>>647095327.62x39 plums exist.
>>64709532>>64709881I'd argue there's a lot more variety of 7.62x39 mags, as a lot more contries produced them.As for "oddballs", plenty of those too.
>>64709881>>64709901I meant mpre along the lines of mass produced plum, but now I know what I have to go looking for.
>>64710429>mass produced plums((10)) my fren
>>64710455I definitely need to get some, but the boomers around me claim a lot of the circle 10s are "fake commercial" versions.
>>64710485>listening to boomersI'd like to know which ones they think are "fake commercial" versions. I'd almost be willing to bet it's just the slab side commercial mags they're conflating with ((10))s.
>>64707369>WBP
>>64708497NTA but is there a good resource that has a ton of prototype and rarer/odd mags listed? I feel like I see new ones monthly that I've never even heard of or seen before.
>>64707924Very based congrats anon
Dot, prism or fuckin ACOG for a 7.62 zpap m70? Luv me irons but wanna have something else to throw on for range fun
I've got a wood stock on my ak. Should I be putting my sling through the loop on the bottom of the stock, or doing that super meme thing where you wrap the sling around the base of the stock near the trunion?
so I finally received my first AK parts kit >w<. I'm not entirely sure what I'm getting into but I have all the parts needed to put together an AKS74N in 5.56.Still trying to figure out if I should try building it myself or taking it to an experienced builder -3-
>>64711549Do you have an astigmatism?
>>64708408I bought 8 of them when nice ones were at $60-$80 easily. Everyone told me I wasted my money because they got them in 2006 for $10 a pop but now retards genuinely want $100+ for any of them and I don’t feel so bad. Got enough to fill a rig with them for any gay pics so I am satisfied. If you want a bakelite currently I’d rather get fakelite and cop, not worth it.
>>64713026through the loophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Ya8HWWgac>>64707369thanks WBP chad hope your satuday is comfy too>>64707924based, I did the same in 2019 and now we have a house and 2 little boys who I'll give my AKs to along with some gold and silver
>>64711475There might be something like that on akfiles, idk. I only know about certain ones because I've seen them pop up for sale or get posted here.
>>64711475Not really. Just scattered posts on random forums, or excerpts from books that are no longer available.You could try and find all the Buddy Hinton pics from his collection; he tried to do what you're describing but I'm not sure just how expansive his collection was.
>>64708388I still have 22,000 plus rounds, in spam cans. My 4 boys get to fight over it eventually.
>>64713300I was thinking about AKFiles when I posted as I do have an account IIRC but I'd have to go password searching or reset my password. I really should look; i also have an idea very very early in the making for manufacturing better looking lookalikes of rare mags (or versions that never existed) than the ones available commercially but it's not far along and it may end up being a pretty small project, nothing I'd be making like 10,000 of. And then there comes the thought of how I ensure they (or their components) are not confused with real bakes or prototypes, so I have to mark them somehow. And strength testing. And whether I reinforce the lips and catch, and...you see how this gets out of hand quick.>>64713345Fug>Buddy Hinton collectionSounds like his goal was similar to the guy who (rip) had a massive SKS collection. I mean, to the point of even having most of the commercially available Chinese aftermarket stuff like various chintzy scopes and mounts. Joe, I think?
>AKs popular because retards can treat them like shit for years>impossible for retards (me) to assemblewhy is this? this is why I have a few ARs now, they require barely any tools to assemble from scratch
>>64713568AKs aren't bad. As long as you can manage a press and do some rivets, you're good.
what are thoughts on Riley ak's better or worse than PSA also what about KUSA?
someone say plum 7.62?
>>64713684I recommend that you save up and buy an SGL, even if it's a lot more expensive you're getting the best.
>>64713715stop trying to sell your SGL for more than it's worth on fuddbroker, it's never going to sell
>>64713719On the contrary, I'm thinking of buying one. The most I'm willing to pay is $2500.
>>64713038Nope
>>64713699Funnily enough since they only did one run(?) of those, they're probably rarer than Russian plum waffles.
>>64713804If they could replicate "flecks" they would print money selling to redd*tors
>>64713823NTA but by "flecks", you mean something like the right one in >>64707093, right? It's a filler. What it is, I don't know. Could be fucking anything in any form from any source (ie. something that would otherwise be waste scraps from other industries). Also depends whether a mag is made of a thermoplastic (melts with heat, ie. Nylon) or a resin (chemical cure, may need baking for full cure, ie. AG-4).
>>64713780in my opinion you'll be overpaying, imagine paying 2.5k for an AK
>>64714513As I understand it, flecks are incompletely mixed ingredients kind of like when you're baking something but didn't mix it completely and get little chunks in your mixture.The Soviets wanted a darker material for magazines than Bakelite; they couldn't make a true "black" so they experimented with different mixtures and found that a very dark plum was good enough for their needs. As time went along and technology improved, they were able to make a "true black" magazine (which is made from a different polymer as well) and where I presume the unofficial name of "true black magazine" came from as well.If you're interested I'm sure there's a few anons with more knowledge than me here. Otherwise go to AKfiles and check there. Tons of info
Anyone know where to find plum furniture? Or should I just settle for US made plum?
>>64714751AK files and combloc market
Is WBP still using cast bolts and billet trunnions?
Who is this for? Why does it exist? Just put glock mags in the glock
>>64715069reddit
>>64715070Aren’t there a bunch of other, better ak pistols?
>>64715069You'd have to ask Romania and Century as they put out the nak-9.
>>64715069>>64715387As for the Stinc chassis, it's for anybody who wants a cope Gepard. Which is apparently enough to warrant making it.>Just put glock mags in the glockEvery mouthbreathing retard and their brother is constantly asking if a gun is in 9mm "does it take glock mags". Eventually gun manufacturers start to listen to that shit because those people buy more guns than you do.
https://atlanticfirearms.com/ak74-rifle-bulgarian-plum-blem What about parts kit built by Atlantic firearms I want a 545 gun. Is it true about wbp having shitty trunnion?
Also why does cigar not make a 556 and 545 al for us we need more wasr, A wasr to build a dream on.
I want a milled 7.62 AK, ~11" barrel to run a can, and preferably with some kind of rail out of the box, bonus points for pic top rail and mlok on the rest. Do I have options outside Rifle Dynamics? I've even been tossing around the idea of just buying PSA and maybe working on it myself? Don't really care about a canted FSP since I want to run a red dot on it. Any thoughts bros?
What do (you) think of maadis?
>>64715896Blue grips are neat.
>>64715896Top tier
>>64708324Anon was clearly talking about 9x39.>>64708388> That shit died with the 7n6 imports.The 5.45 era was crazy. For about 10 minutes companies were even making AR15's chambered in the cartridge it was gaining so much popularity. Then Obama came along and thanks obama'd all over everything and it was over.https://smallarmsreview.com/smith-wesson-mp15r-5-45x39mm/
Anybody think #pmurt will reverse the ammo ban? Or does that take an act of congress?
>>64715463Overpriced don't buy it.>>64715471WASR-2s are 5.45 and WASR-3s are 5.56. Draco Champions are 5.56 Dracos. Shame none of them have been imported in awhile. I think we got a few new WASR-3s in 2023 or '24 but it wasn't many. >>64715595SAM7-UR or milled Mini Jack if you can find one. The SAM will be overpriced in my opinion but I'm also biased against that Armenian kike who runs Arsenal.>>64715896I think they're great and would love one if I didn't live in a communist gulag hell state.Fun fact, the earlier ones will sometimes have Tula parts due to Tula being the main export factory for AKMs.
>>64715595>>64717094>SAM7-UR I mean SAM7K but my point stands
>>64716095Oh, man those are really blue, is the photo edited? All the maadi grips that I have seen for sale always show blue under a bright light close up.
>>64715463>Is it true about wbp having shitty trunnion?I trust the retards on /akg/.>$1,775.00Ignore Atlantic at all cost, haven't checked in a minute, but you could find an SLR-100 series for around the same price.
>>64717196This. Atlantic always has really high prices. Only two times I have ever gotten anything from them was a PTR-91 and I have a FAL on layaway from them. Both of which were heavily discounted at the time. (2018 I picked up a GI100 model for like $799.99 and they had 21" Para FALs marked down to $1295). The only real benefit to Atlantic is their layaway program. It is a genuine layaway (no fees) and not the credova bullshit everyone else has.
>>64717196>>64717338sol then should i get a WBP in 545 then?
>>64717725There's a guy who was in the last thread trying to shoot a wbp to death, I was looking at them too but I want to wait and see what happens with his.
>>64717725>WBP>5.45These are both horrible choices, 5.45 is expensive, only good polish is FB, there is always a used Galil ACE that you can get if you want to shoot 5.45.
>>64705619I don't think valmets should be that much thus I woll never buy one. Next gun ak I am getting may be m85 underfolder rifle/m90, beryl, or a merdian defense ak 101 after one of those I am getting a psa krink.
>>64713279Any experience with wbp 5.56 guns? Are they good or shit?
>>64718773WBP seems to keep catching Ls recently.
>>64718773Jump in and take a gamble with a Pioneer 556, honestly safer bet than WBP right now.
>>64705619I just want a Valmet because I like Finland and Finnish culture. Plus I already own a Beryl.
>>64719472What about Finnish culture do you like?
>7.62x39 almost as expensive as 5.45 nowits so fucking OVER
What is the superior way to mounting an optic on a run-of-the-mill AK? So far I'm aware of 4 ways, which are:>Dust cover with pic rail (TWS,Midwest)>Side rail mount (RS Reg, Midwest)>Gas Tube (Ultimak,SLR)>Rear iron sight rail (Attero,TWS)
>>64722486Having tried basically everything I can safely say that the side rail mount is by FAR the best:>no permanent modification to the gun>easily removable if needed for maintenance or broken optic or even optic swap etc.>costs about the same as all the other options >enough room for literally any type of opticpretty much the only downside is its a little extra weight
>>64722497Any brands you recommend? I'm leaning towards RS regulate since it looks the most minimalist.
>>64722581NTA, but I have a Midwest gen 2 and it's held zero well despite me repeatedly dropping it, and I've taken it off and put it back on and it's held zero for that.
>>64720375Pickled shark
>>64723011That's Iceland
>>64722581RS Regulate is more pricey, but 1 of 1 for it's level of adjustments and mount options and getting the optic low, forward, more rearward etc,Some aks can slightly vary from gun to gun,so the one piece pic rail mount sit dead center, another it could be askew and it's not a HUGE deal, but it can be annoying.
>>64719060Thinking that or some or a gunsmith special wasr 3 for like 750. Pioneers don't seem that bad and from what I have seen, they are trying to match their firing pin with beryl spec.
Are any AKs considered "any other weapon"? Trying to get around Delaware's bullshit
>>64714697My first thought is that it was chopped strings of fiberglass, but it almost looks like machined strings of a plastic broken up and used as filler. A thread on AKFiles had a reply saying it was polyamide, which if true could mean a few different polymers, including chopped strings of kevlar, which is used in resin parts in place of fiberglass or carbon sometimes. Those flecks are a lot whiter than kevlar usually is, though. Random pic from google. Also interesting the top of the mag up around the feedlips is actually black. I do remember some other older polymer AK mags having that as well IIRC. Wonder why that is; it seems to be a thin layer as I found a mag or two (pic) where it was worn through, almost like powder pigment was brushed in the mold before pour.
>>64719060Rob Ski's Pioneer lost headspace in under 500 rounds so i believe the company should have collapsed then and there
>>64724483>any other weaponAK wise probably not, you always get a bespoke cane gun that uses 762 if you want to get a taste of an AK?
>>64724483If you buy some flavor of AK pistol and throw an AR buffer tube adapter, a foregrip, and a pistol brace on it, I think that counts if it clocks in over 28" OAL according to whatever measurement criteria the ATF decided it is this week
Are the PSA AK-103's any good? Or would sticking with a WASR-10 fit the bill just as well? I've heard questionable things about PSA and I'd rather not buy something that isnt that good.
>>64726331Are there any that just come like that? I'm not looking forward to having to go through all the permit to buy bullshit.
>>64727112None that I know of off the top of my headYou may have to buy a receiver and parts kit and either roll your own or send it to a gunsmith
>>64726878Unless you are okay with filling out an RMA every so often go with PSA, if not go with WASR or any reputable factory. Also read the wiki.
>>64726878WASRASRLiterally all you need
Loose unfolder stock on a Wasr, what's the best fix for this? It's stupid loose. Or do I accept and learn to love it.
>>64728309I don't know why I have just now been aware of that. Thank you.>>64728335Yeah they're close in price where I am and I was kinda going back and forth last night with the decision. It'll probably be several weeks before i put an order for something in anyways but yeah, I was leaning toward the WASR to begin with. Thank you as well.
>>64728335Beautiful wood. Palmswell FTW. Slant brake FTW. Would be peak aesthetic, but alas, no dimples.
>>64726878I would highly suggest a WASR or ZPAP or WBP over anything PSA
Am I a sucker of I buy a Kreb?
>>64729138Have you tried looking for a used one? You could save money and use that to buy ammo to practice with.
Are draco's and wasr's made by the same factory in Romania?
>>64730433yeahbut century makes american dracos that are the same as vksas, so get one that explicitly says on the side of the receiver (MADE IN ROMANIA)
The war in Ukraine has really shown how obsolete 7.62x39mm AKs really are. From what I’ve found from both Russian and Ukrainian sources 7.62 is used almost exclusively for training simply because the downsides of the cartridge outweigh any benefits of it being a bigger cartridge. Here’s some key takeaways from both sides:>Significantly heavier than 5.45x39mm, this is the biggest factor as Russian SF says minimum combat loadout is 300 rounds. Ukrainian SF in Kursk were often running 17 mags PER man. >Even famous Russian units seen using 7.62 AKs prior to the 2022 invasion like SOBR have been seen using 5.45 AKs in actual combat footage. >Ukrainian recon guy I talked to say they ditched all their suppressed 7.62 AKs for .300 blackout MCX because they are WAY overgrazed when pared with suppressors most of the time have to duck-tape the rear dust cover to prevent getting gas in the face and made cleaning a bitch compared to suppressed 5.45 or 5.56 guns. >Lower range and shittier accuracy, not as important of a factor in this war do to the average infantry vs infantry engagements being so close but some soldiers in defense positions taking shots at longer distances might care. >One of the interesting things I observed was a Russian SF guy saying that full-auto fire from a 7.62 is just as controllable as a 5.45 gun with proper training, but ammo weight is Paramount. >Where suppressed subsonic ammo is need Ukraine prefers .300 blackout and Russian uses 9x39mm guns, nobody is running suppressed 7.62x39 guns as their first choice in the conflict. >As for the argument of barrier penetration in urban environments. The general consensus is if 5.45 or 5.56 can’t penetrate it you blow it up. TLDR: 7.62x39 is the .45 ACP of AK cartridges, heavy, slow, relies on the “stoping powa” meme for relevancy, a through and though boomer cartridge. All professional in this war use 5.45 and 5.56 guns.
>>64730586
>>64730605Okay boomer.
>>64730586Great! Now link me to a new AK import in 5.45
>>64730524It's just the 10 inch vksas guns that are century built garbage right? Im looking at the 12 inch ones that are advertised as draco
>>64730855https://palmettostatearmory.com/galil-ace-gen-ii-16-5-45x39-rifle-black-gar71.htmlCheck mate libtard
>>64725448What's with your hand?
>>64731048NO! FOILED BY FACTS AND LOGIC YET AGAIN!!!
>>64713568AKs are peak industrial age product: cheap as chips when in batches of 1M or more, extremely easy and quick to make once you build a city-sized factory for it, dead-nuts-reliable as long as all the processes and QC were on point.They were never meant to be assembled in a hobbyist's garage by soft bougie hands.>>64722486Run a chassis. Stock look is overrated, and it's your personal gun anyway, nobody's gonna make you turn it in exactly as you got it.
>>64729594Reject WBPJust lift weights and gunsoom Zastava products like a real Chad
>>64731336Zastavas are so fucking ugly though. Might as well get a vz58 at that point.
>>64731344manlet detected
>>64731280>Run a chassisThe goal for my AK is to keep it as similarly correct as ak74m, and adding a chassis like kypk or bratwurst is the opposite of the minimalist look that I'm going for.
>>64731347Doesn't change the fact that they're butt ugly. Ill never understand why they couldn't just make the front of the thing like a normal akm so it could take normal akm furniture. And that giant stupid rear sight doesn't help anything.
>>64729594Yeah I think I will go with the WASR for the safest choice. I think the PSA is just a cosmetic clone, with questionable quality. I like that ZPAP by the way. I initially was going to get a full size Draco, but then I was like well at that price, I should just get a full size rifle. Then the spiraling has continued. I'm nost likely going to get the WASR soon and a ZPAP 85 at some point. I've got the basics down as far as defensive firearms, I'm at the point where I want to buy interesting things/optics and have fun at the range. AR's are fine and all but can just get very boring.>>64730400I haven't but it might be worth a look. I would be a little concerned about getting something that was not treated the best.
>>64731427>full size dracoThe full size Draco is a good idea if you ever want to clone a dragoon.
>>64731473Dragoon looks to be a mini draco with silencer and quad rails.
Jewish raifus is crashing out over calling him out for his jewish prices lol (6k for a absolute beat to shit famas kit that he probably paid $100 a piece for) 1/2
Would you guys keep or sell any of the below? All kit builds and matching. I didn't go full autism on tort/recreator receivers. All are childers but "Correct" or at least have the serial matched. On one hand, I'd like to thin down my collection and delve into accessories. On the other, I might be too far entrenched into 7.62x39:M72 Yugo RPKMD63 RommyMD65 RommyAMD65 HungyAK74 - Bulgy
>>64734064
>>64734064>>64734096someone out there is willing to pay it so yeah, get fucked. You didn't import it.
>>64734142Hi Moka. “This worn out beat to shit kit that I paid $100 for is worth 6k because ummmm…just because!” Rope yourself you hebe faggot. Here’s a bible verse for you kike: “A fool and his money are soon parted”.
>>64734172Please post links to these $100 Famas'.Mokas a kike, but you just come off sounding poor and mad.
>>64734172>anon finds out about imports, money, prices, etc.
>>64731067>"random pic from google">your handI don't even own a plum mag yet, anon. Never ran into one in person. =(
>>64734064So you got in a slapfight with a vendor, lost, then came here for approval?
>>64734172>This worn out beat to shit kit that I paid $100 for is worth 6k because ummmm…just because!How about you import it yourself? Shouldn't be that hard for a $100 parts kit, right? You could even undercut him and corner the market by charging what they're actually worth -- $100.
>>64734074At first glance I'd say keep them all. If you absolutely must sell one, I'd sell the M72 but even then you'd sell it for less than it's actually worth; there are more of them available today than in previous years so the market is more saturated.Does the AMD-65 have the correct barrel length?
Less retardation, more AKs pls
>>64735472Based and trueI got a Wolverine wrap very happy with it.
>>64735478Why is a Wolverine wrap marked OTK-19? Isn't that a Russian proof mark?Wouldn't it be a PBS-1 wrap>Not trying to be an ass, genuinely curious.
>>64735509Idk but I think it's neat. Maybe I'm incorrect and it's a PBS-1 wrap but it's going on my Wolverine.
>>64735471I'm leaning that way, but also attempting to thin collection. Not the best time to sell. AMD has the correct length.
>>64734064It is true mokas raifus is using Jewish practices even worse than Atlantic, but the cool thing is, it is a free market so you can choose to buy from somewhere else?
>>64722486Factually speaking the only superior way is completely depopulating the barrel and using a system like OCCAM. For the rest, a good dust cover or an ultimak will do the job just fine. Rear iron sights rails are dogshit. Side rails are fine enough but i don't trust a system that relies on tension.
>>64730586>>64704982What kind of sights are popular in Ukraine? Are there more red dot types or LVPO/magnified type sights? Just wondering what people over there have found useful in the fighting.
>>64736253Holosuns and eotechs on both sides. If the families too poor to fund their son's adventure, then irons sights.
>>64736390Red dot + Magnifiers seemed to be the preferred set up, after that it’s various weird thermal and NVG scopes. like this user said >>64736390 irons sighted AKs are the standard for both sides. An interesting thing I’ve heard both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers talk about is that kit + optics is expensive and that most soldiers choose to upgrade their issued gear before their weapons. Suppressor are probably more common on guns than optics in this conflict, as signature reduction is paramount in a drone saturated environment.
>>64736253In this pick dude looks to be running a Holosun 503 with magnifier. (Russian)
>>64736253Guy running what looks to be a Sig Romeo MSR with magnifier. (Ukrainian)
>>64736253Another one with EOtech and magnifier. (Ukrainian???)
>>64736253Ukranian SF with ACOG.
>>64736253Holosun 510C forward mounted on upper handguard rail, common to see as most Soviet era AKs don’t have side rails, so railed dust covers and forward mounts are common. (Ukrainian)
>>64704982man i miss when ammo was relatively cheap and i was a ingle male, life was so much more fungrowing up sucks
>>64736253Another Holosun + magnifier, really popular with Russian forces I assume because of sanctions. (Russian).
Can you rit dye something that is black? Was interested in buying this driven arms ak grip but they don't have it in plum, was curious about dyeing it.
>>64736616Not effectively. You MIGHT be able to bleach it, but I'd test a small area with bleach first. I'd be worried it would degrade the material before the dye started to meaningfully fade and that's just bleaching it.
>>64736670Hmm mm, risky, I also on an old post on the ak forum where someone used RAL3007 to spray paint their furniture.
>>64736616Just spray paint it my dude.
Finally got my Draco looking good, thinking it might be the first gun I actually paint
>>64736688NTA but if you're thinking paint, try this stuff. Don't know how well it'll show up on black but it might just end up looking like glossy plum.
>>64736688Just paint it you fucking millennial pussy God damn.Why do millennials always, ALWAYS overcomplicate things? Jesus fucking Christ.
>>64717094Is that an MPi-KM?
>>64736721The correct answer is not doing anything at all. Why style grip? Is grip. Grip is fine,
>>64736721>>64736791Because AK owners in the US don’t shoot their guns. Just look at /akg/ compared to /arg/ or even /brg/, those people are at least LARPing with their guns. Everyone here is basically just treats AKs as collectible items and not real weapons to be used and abused. They think of guns the same way women think of fashion accessories.
>>64722486Midwest’s siderail adds bulk + weight but best return to zero and most rugged. TWS is best weight saving but removes your irons which I don’t like. Then there’s the Fab Defense PDC but it’s generally overpriced and that’s why I recommend the Uki knock offs like Picrel as they’re more affordable and do the same thing. Personally prefer railed covers over side rails, side rails are just too bulky when walking and hiking with the rifle slug, they feel weird to use left-handed because your index finger sits on the side of the rail. I know they sound like minor complaints, but they just kind of irked my autism for some reason. Also found that railed dust covers tend to sit closer in line with the bore as whereas side rails can sometimes beat off alignment ever so slightly, depending on your gun.YouTube testing has shown pretty much all methods will probably shift zero somewhat when you take them off, however, when you consider the average AK has accuracy between 3.6 MOA and 5.0 MOA a 2.0 MOA shift is not that much and pretty much only matters if you’re using a scope. This is just my personal experience having used these three different mounting solutions. Pic is from: https://akguys.com/dust-covers.html.
>>64736809Basically ar cloning, but worse. With prices, including ammo, I get it, but it's also a shame. Could we blame the lack of cheap and available 5.45? Maybe. Could we blame 7.62x39 being claimed to be out of meta? Also maybe. That being said, it's funny to see people bash 7.62x39 and laud .300blackout in the same sentence. Side point - I think the lack of readily available accessories doesn't help either, It's getting better, but lot of minimalism going on.
>>64736809I will speak as someone that doesnt shoot as much as I would like:basically ammo is expensive and it is an entire process to go out and drive 45 minutes to shoot, so especially in winter if I wake up at noon it is already too late to shoot. I've shot maybe 5000 rounds total through all my guns this year but a lot of that was just magdumping trash. I blasted through like 2000 rounds of 7.62x39 I got for like 32cpr a few years ago and then when I went to buy more I basically had a stroke.
>>64736616Spray paint. Altough this fucking sucks on pistol grips as "most" paints tend to become somewhat sticky / tacky when drying.
>>64736809>Everyone here is basically just treats AKs as collectible itemsIt's funny how this periodically come back. It's even funnier when you realize the "J-JUST SHOOT AND ABUSE THE EVERLOVING FUCK OUT OF YOUR GUNS THEY'RE MADE FOR THAT" crowd spouts that because the only thing they own are bombed ass WASRs and fucking PSAs. I don't give a rat ass about abusing and destroying these shits either but that's not the point. Factually speaking some AKs, even more now, are ABSOLUTELY collectible items you dumb nigger.
>>64736566i can understand forward mounted and i can understand side rail mounted, but i cant understand railed dust covers. wouldnt you have to re zero every time you disassemble the gun? isnt your zero just a kind of guess in the first place on such a loosely fitting part?
>>64737386Then you unironically belong in >>64684823The real Soviet made AKs you all crave so much are getting used and abused in the largest war in Europe since WWII, this is not a tragedy they are fucking TOOLS OF WAR they were DESIGNED FOR WAR. You retards should collect airsoft rifles because they also look pretty, are collectible and also don’t do jack ducking shit (like you and your rifle). Treating these rifles like fucking Pokémon cards is a goddamn shame and Kalashnikov himself is rolling in his grave as we speak. Honestly? Maybe it’s better that the AK market die like the milsurp market so you faggots can all be relegated to the forgotten corner of relevant firearms discussion.
>>64737386Prime pussy behaviour, collectables lmao. It's a tool, it was literally made to be used and eventually break.
>>64738691There can absolutely be a difference between a very nice collectible AK and a tool anon.WASRs are tools, type 1 AK-47s are collectibles
>>64738441Crazy to think that there’s like almost a thousand dollars worth of magazines in this picture.
>>64737902TWS and FAB PDC clones are pretty sturdy, they replaced the rear recoil spring button with an aftermarket one that locks into the dust cover. In the cas of the TWS it also locks into an AR-15 style takedown pin held the rear sight is replaced by a bridge. (Kinda hard to explain just google it.) but like I said in a previous post your zero will shift slightly if you take it on and off for cleaning, I’ve personally never experienced anything more than a 2MOA shift on mine.
>>64738698Probably more than that, given the current state of the mag market.>Aluminium waffles are north of $150>Slabsides are also $100+
>>64738638Maybe i do indeed belong in milsurp... and maybe you do belong in a gay orgy.>this is a tragedy ! why>because they're tools of war ! yeah so what>THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR WAR ! yeah, so are swords, what is issue if someone is keeping them, maintaning them, and therefore saving a part of history ? >NOOO THEY'RE MEANT TO BE USED TO KILL, MAIM, HARM, IDEALLY IN THE HANDS OF SUB 80 IQ NEGROIDS or MUDSLIMES IN WHATEVER THIRD WORLD SHITHOLES WERE AKs ARE STILL USED INSTEAD OF AN ARs OR A VARIANT OF IToh ok gotchaIn any case, AR-15s are also "tools of war" and guess what, any average american monkey company is producing these souless shitty ass rifles. Therefore can't you just stick to these specific "tools of war" that anyone can (somewhat) correctly produce, and let the last remnant of quality rifles (since nobody is able to produce AKs like Tula / Izhmash anymore apparently) live free in the hands of citizens / collectors / sport shooters that will take care of them and transmit them for posterity sake ?Stupid fucking war mongering fucking disgusting retarded nigger. Talks loud about "muh tools of war" while probably never held an actual "tools of war" in his hand, only semi-automatic cucked shit for civilian market on top of that. Shut the fuck up. Never answer me ever again.
>>64738714NTA but thoughts of throwing one on an amd? I have it in my mind that it would work pretty well with an ultimak.
>>64738691You said it yourself, they are tools and made to be used and break. Guess what, unless being a nigger with foresight capabilities that don't go further than a stimulus check and your next dose of crack, you would not use a "tool" that would eventually break if you didn't had a way to repair it or get a replacement OUTSIDE a specific life or death scenario. And since neither me, nor you, nor any other shitposter on this fucking board are actually fighting for their life in whatever zogbot war fueled by whatever zogoverlord this scenario doesn't apply. You would use a cheaper, more readily available, more easily repairable, more easily sourced tool. So i will reiterate what i said earlier. Anyone spouting that kind of retarded nonsense doesn't own any firearm that are actually worth a fucking shit, be it from an historical standpoint or even a purely manufacturing / mechanical standpoint. It's a great filter actually. Enjoy your "tools of war".
>>64738638>he was proud his rifle defended the Soviet Union but expressed deep sorrow and guilt over its misuse by terrorists and in conflicts, feeling politicians, not designers, bore blame, wishing he'd invented a farm tool instead, though he always maintained it was a weapon for defense, not aggression>"I made weapons not for attack, but for the defense of the borders of my Fatherland. And that is how it should be"You're correct. He's rolling in his grave having to read the amount of fucking bullshit you write on a daily basis. Factually speaking (based on his letters and "last" words), if his "tools of war" (which he never ever labelled as such anywhere by the way, as a matter of fact close to no weapon manufacturer or inventor will call their creation a tool of war, while they do OBVIOUSLY serve this purpose, it's interesting to see that they first and foremost are created with defense in mind) were stored for prosperity sake and cared for by actual decent human beings i'm sure his spirit would be more at ease.
>nooooooooo you can't just store that AD-46 in a museum, it's a tool of war, not a collectibe you pussies RAAAAAAHHRHRRRRR Andreyevich is rollling in his grave, go get it blown up by a drone somewhere like it was meant to ! /akg/ 2026 everyone... we're off to a great start
This is a strange thread. Redditors defending their "investments" and overcompensating faggots with day jobs lauding their tools of war. Someone get me some damn popcorn.
>>64739278B'YEAH
>>64735532Nice gun
>>64739278>Redditors defending their "investments"It's only an investment if you're intending to sell it. Which i personally don't. It's either going to my kids or a friend if i somehow die before them. Or to the bin if i somehow shoot it to death which is unlikely considering the sheer sturdiness of an actual '62 Tula. In any case i do agree. These faggots are absolutely overcompensating.
>>64739295Back at ya
>>64739305I can't exactly blame the investment angle. I see what these things are selling for and the cash is tempting, but I'm in too deep. I'd rather just keep them. 7.62x39 isn't the most stellar or cheapest option out there now, but I'm not going to cope and buy a beryl for that matter.
>>64731347>Zastava ChadI bought my first Zastava about 1 month ago, a used PAP M85NP with a folding buffer tube adapter for a little less than $1000.00 out the door. No sales tax because of MT. I love it. I have some concerns about the magwell being polymer. Feeding has been generally great with STANAG magazines and Lancers. Just such a fun firearm. It's kind of a novelty AK, but the quality is still excellent regardless. If SCOTUS removes SBRs from the NFA, I'm absolutely going to put a Serbian Red furniture set on it (assuming it's compatible of course).
>>6473929447s?Byeah.74s?Byeah.Crinks?Byeah.Bakelites?Byeah.Plums?Byeah.
>>64739175Based
>>64739295>>64739328I'm assuming these are parts kits?
>>64740757Holy shit you have a big hand
Strela best flash hider I can get? Any others out there that are okay but cheaper?
>>64740943Mine>>64739295 is a 104FR
>>64734172That phrase appears nowhere in the Bible, you monkey imbecile.
>>64739295>>64739328These are really nice. Which manufacturer/model is that 103? Do you recommend it?
>>64741699The 104FR was a stamped Arsenal import from 2014-15. They were made in Bulgaria on Russian tooling. They don't make them anymore. If you want to pay for one on gunbroker they are the highest quality AKS-74 (4.5 mm stock) pattern rifles you can buy.
>>64741758Thanks for the information. I was looking into the KR 103 and I didnt see any info in the buyers guide about them, I was under the impression that your image may have been one of them.
>>64741789I would wait to see what comes of the Meridian 103 first. Its launching soon. At least that gun would have warranty support.>https://meridiandefensecorp.com/ak-103/
Will the price of 7.62 ever come down?
>>64742737No
Has an AK-74N ever used 100 series furniture?
>>64743658In what sense? The 74N designation is just a fixed stock 74 with a side rail, right? Putting a whole new rear trunnion on it to accommodate a 100 series stock would alter it enough to essentially be re-designated as a "74M" I would think. >so no, not really imo
>>64740943>>64739328Mine's a Bulgarian ((10)) kit. Originally had a fixed stock but I had it rebuilt on a Childers receiver with a folding stock.
>>64743736On further research I realized that I am stupid and that plum furniture is not 100 series furniture, what I instead meant have AK-74N model ever updated with plum furniture or is that exclusive to AK-74M non-folding (is that even a thing).
>>64743921Plum was used on the AK-74 in the mid- to late-80s into the early 90s until the AK-74M was adopted (which used black furniture).
So, I just bought this
>>64743963Draco 9S?Let us know how it is I really want a 9mm AK but the PSA AKV I got blew up on me. God I wish KUSA would come back
>>64743984I'm euro so this is a CTS9T from Nova Modul that does indeed make the Draco.Only 100 rds fired with it today, it's rugged and heavy but very pleasant to shoot. Furniture is OK, runs on scorpion evo mags, my only regret is that the lower is polymer
>>64744020Interesting
Is something like this zastava a decent entry point into AKs? I want to put a suppressor on it and a really stable rail for a forward mounted optic and angled foregrip of some kind. Am I gonna get burned?
>>64744285Yep, Zastava is pretty good, just heavy as fuck. I highly suggest the M92 and M85
>>64743940thanks for the info.
>>64744291Thanks anon.
>>64744285>Am I gonna get burned?Yes. At least one of those things won't work out the way you hoped it would and you'll sink more into it trying to find the "right" setup. Also Yugo pattern is fairly proprietary when it comes to accessories, but there is a lot more available now than there ever was before. Barring those, if you temper your expectations it shouldn't be too bad.Shooting subs is gonna be spendy too>Buy a Draco
>>64744364>buy a dracoI got a draco and it was so fucked I couldnt even put an attero arms mount or TWS dogleg on it, that being said it works with a tdi x47 and looks sick, but for a first time entry point into AKs I definitely wouldnt suggest a gun that might very well be way out of spec.The M92/M85 are literally just buy gun, attach brace, and you're good to go with an easy optic mounting option.If the draco was my first AK I might very well have thrown my hands up in disgust and bought an AR.
>>64744370See, you did all that shit. You think that every Zastava gun is perfect? >Lowered expectations is all I was getting at, the draco line was mostly a joke
>>64744396Yeah that's fair. Either way I would say that zastava definitely has better qc than cugir.Either way it is safe to assume if you get an AK and want to customize it you're gonna have to fucking hit it with a hammer at some point.
>>64744405>you're gonna have to fucking hit it with a hammer at some point.Way she goes
>>64723355>it's not a HUGE dealthis is pretty huge deal unless you're using a plain dot, and this is why a fucked rail mount isn't always the way to go
Does anyone have videos with bad WBP examples form the last 3 years not from kalash boomer guy?>>64744405is that pic related brace? How is it?
Anyone have experience with Polish Night vision optic? It seems, finding a 1NP34/1PN58 is rare and expensive, polish one have somewhat okay prices.
>>64746895I had a 1PN58 before they got real expensive. It worked well enough for gen 1 nv but the reticle led was burnt out and getting a replacement is basically impossible.
>>64746267The brace is decent, feels solid, bit of a pain to attach imo and very difficult to fold but comes with a QD mount which is nice. I actually have the other 1913 standard triangle brace on my M85 and prefer that(although it is harder to mount a sling to it)If you like the aesthetic of the brace go for it
>>64737372You are doing something fundamentally wrong if spray paints ain't properly curing. T: painted various cars with rattle cans with even good results.
Alright I'm making a north hollywood shootout AK clone build. I already have a norinco 56 with a drum mag and I'm making a replica of the foregrip (I believe the foregrip was a custom piece since I haven't been able to find any romanian handguards with that shape for sale). My only problem is finding the folding stock. Is it romanian? Finding them in europe is a pain and I don't want to import from the states. Current grip is a place holder
>>64748775>I believe the foregrip was a custom piece since I haven't been able to find any romanian handguards with that shape for saleIt's not, but it's not Romanian either. Iirc it was an American company that made those lower handguards (Apparently it was called Global Trades)Kalasnicarver makes a "clone" of it, but imo it doesn't look quite the same.https://www.kalashnicarver.com/North-Hollywood-style-dong-p673605493The stock is Romanian.>they used another one of those dongs in the movie Belly
>>64748775Are you gonna miss all your shots too?
What’s the best available 7.62x39 flash hider out there currently? I’m getting impatient waiting and hunting for a strela.
>>64744602What’s the best alternative then? I’ve been seeing a lot of the fab dust cover lately. I don’t exactly trust the rear sight replacement mounts despite them likely being fine.
>>64749081I call missing my shots suppressive fire
>>64749098"Best" is fairly subjective. Since you seem stuck on Strela, any other 4 piece flash hider should work the same. I personally like the AKML, Tabuk FH, and even they Type 84 birdcage as far as flash hiders go.
>>64749352I’ve seen those gm “ghost” and the cnc warrior ones but they aren’t as gucci. I’m kind of curios on the back pressure those might add. I’d like to toss one on an amd-65 which seems would be fun, but def going to check out the others for my others. The type 84 has been in my wishlist for a minute. Who’s making the akml now? I have one that is a three prong which I think was called the akml but I could be wrong. It was a while back
>>64749440>Who’s making the akml now?Jmac. They're also making a Type 84-esque EG flash hider.>I think was called the akml but I could be wrongIf it's an E93 3 prong, you might be confusing it with their AKML-C one.
>>64749531Bless. I suspect it might have been the ak3p. High chance it was e93. I’ll try to dig it out tonight. Makes a distinctive “ding” when firing. Makes you think you won the lottery when on a m72 rpk.
Should I just get a 4 piece flash hider for my M85 or bite the bullet and pick up a putnik?
>>64749697How's the gas situation with the can screwed on?
>>64749853I don't have either of those I am wondering if a suppressor is worth paying 10 times the price
>>64749697>he made an AR
>>64749991not mine
>>64750005>they made an AR
>>64739175I’ve fired more military guns than your chocolate eating, cheese making, watch making, mountain skiing eurocuck ass probably has. Here’s a list of all the automatic weapons I’ve fired at machine gun rental places over the years:>Vietnam era M16 (US Air Force contract, pre XM16E1 and M16A1 with no forward assist). 2 mags>Carl Gustaf m/45 1 mag>MP40 1 and 1/2 mags because it kept malfunctioning>PPS-43 2 mags >PPSh-41 1 mag>Vietnam era CAR-15 suppressed build 1 mag>Suppressed HK416 2 mags >Thompson M1A1 1 mag>M1918A2 BAR 2 mags >AK-74 2 mags >AKMS 2 mags >PK (Remember it had a fluted barely so probably not a PKM) 2 50 round belts >DP-28 1 pan mag >M1919 1 50 round belt >M240B 1 50 round belt >MG34 1 50 round belt >MG42 1 50 round belt >M2 browning 1 50 round belt >FN FAL 50.00 1 mag full auto>MP5SD 2 mags >M79 5 smoke rounds >M4 mounted M203 2 smoke rounds Think there might have been an M249 SAW in there somewhere but couldn’t find any pictures or videos of it on my old phone so maybe not. I’ve unironically shot more rounds through military hardware than some people I know in our own military. That was mostly during Trumps first presidency when ammo for MG rentals was cheep and before I own multiple Binary triggers and FRTs so I was more willing to pay to satiate my full-auto addiction. So yes AKs are “Weapons of War” and that’s fucking cool as shit that we can own this stuff as private citizens who are not part of the military in the US of A. And Eurocucks will never not be mindbroke by this fact.
>>64750825just btfo of that faggot mountain jew.
>>64750679Neopronouns get out
>>64750825Bulgarian wood furniture looks so fucking bad. Yeah let's PAINT over the gorgeous wood, that's a good idea.
>>64749531>>64749645Def E93 Ak3p
Anyone else pick up one of these? Receivers should be ready late February.
>>64750942it spergingly has to match the salmon pistol grip
>>64750942>noooooo not the heckin’ beautiful wood on my cheeply designed communist assault riflerino!
Fuck ukraine I want my goddamn cheap Russian ammo again.
>>64751344Same but not going to happen for four simple reasons: >monke won’t stop fucking around and finding out >ukraine is not ready to succeed land>even if the war did end tomorrow Russian weapon and ammunition sanctions would probably remain in place >nothing good last forever It’s time to let go of the past (AKs and russian ammo being the cheep brokenigga meta) and embrace the future (PSA AR-15 and AAC ammo being the cheep brokenigga meta)
>>64750981No mags. No sale.
>>64751329
>>64751389You can buy two per kit plus a bayonet for $50 each plus tip.
>>64751371>PSA AR-15 and AAC ammoI want no part of this future
>>64750825>anon went to a range
>>64751759it appears that you have standards, do you understand the level of shit rods, nuggets and questionable corrosive ammo this board was built on?
>>64750981I thought about it but I already have a Pe90 and bought an FAL and Pe57 parts kit. I just didn't think it was worth it without receivers, mags, and parts being readily available.
Anyone here mess with railed dust covers? I have no siderail and must scream
>>64752599Yeah
>>64752599>I have no siderail and must screamWhy not use a Master mount? Seems like the easiest solution.
>>64752599sureshot is your best option hands downtws serviceable ignore any sperging about holding zero or zenitshit being the only good option, those people have never learned to shut the fuck up.
>>64751479two mags is nowhere near enough
Finally picked up my AK from the gunsmith not too long ago. Now I just need my mags to come in.
>>64752953What you got there, sonny?
>>64753119Saiga AKM conversion old man came to the shop and wanted to sell it for 300
>>64750825Am i dreaming or the idea of a rebuttal for this nigger was listing (nobody asked and nobody is reading this shit btw) guns he doesn't own and that he shot once in his lifetime and will never shoot again at a range as RENTALS. That's the most pathetic shit i've ever been replied to in this board and i've seen quite the fair share of it.This nigger literally tried to flex what the average chinese or vietnamese tourist do after losing a round of poker and hitting Battlefield Vegas while filming himself magdumping and blasting the everloving shit out of the walls. In any case there's a difference between you and me : i own full auto rifles.I don't rent them. I own them. Therefore i take care of them. Because i'm not a range monkey going "rattatatattatat" with guns that don't belong to me (nobody cares about other people shit to begin with). And since you apparently have the culture and education of the average american (read : stupid as fuck and mixed with nigger blood) you don't realize that guns rights in Switzerland allow the common man (altough with some requirements but far less retarded than what the US dictates, like FFL or being in the correct state to begin with) to own full auto rifles, grenade launchers, whatever. We don't need to FRTs, binary, bisexual, or whatever cucked contraptions you faggots come with to cope with the lack of an actual third pin and auto sear. We have the real deal. Not only that but at the fraction of the cost. This MAC (which got, as a matter of fact, a missing trip which means it's in full auto only) sold by a based man costed me less than 2K. As for the rest you completely eluded the actual content of my post but that was maybe a bit too philosophical for you so i don't take offence. Kiss my ass. Regards,
you guys did a good job of riling him up but it's a lot easier and faster to just post a rifle outside and wait for him to follow suit (he won't)
>>64752670Clearance concerns mainly for foldy stock. It’s in the cards but lower on list. >>64752674Will check out. I keep seeing info and pics of the fab one being used. It’s tempting despite me probably knowing any better
>>64753533funny dubs and funni post
>>64753539>Clearance concerns mainly for foldy stockI kinda thought you might say that. They make an UF friendly one too.
>>64753476You have cute soft looking hands anon
>>64753656thvnks
>>64753476i'm not that other retard you were arguing with but i have a couple ARs with FRTs all of which is legal where i live AND on top of that the Gobment doesn't know about it to begin with (private sales baybee). It is cool that you own what you own but i'll just say to each their own. Now if you'll excuse i'm gonna fap
>>64752147I happen to have a mosin and aside from only costing me $110 delivered when I had my 03 it is an unholy piece of shit fitting for Russian infantry in the past, present and future. I can't really justify getting rid of it because when you are 24 years into the rabit hole of shooting and collecting guns and ammo it so happens that you're 83 deep and can't sell anything off because the collection will be "incomplete". But it always is. You and I both know that, you do, right?
>>64753585That actually might work. Thanks! I’ll check it out and will post pics once everything is mainly setup
>>6475384483 and here I was with issue of the number 25
>>64749440I use the CSS Tabuk on my 12.5" AMD when I take it indoors and it does a good job.>>64750981nah cause if its anything like the other uncommon stamped guns ex: SAR-80, Pe57 then the receivers will be way too expensive.I just finished my VZ-58 reweld. It has the OG 15.5" barrel that I p&w with the CSA muzzle device. I'm gonna have to do something about the gas tube because it rattles worse than any AK I've ever had. In total I probably spent about $400 on it after I sold the jig.
>>64754261Need to check the tabuk next. 12.5” amd gang gang. Going to trick this one out probably to mid results but I’m having some fun with is. Was initially looking at 1913 stocks but that shits expensive. Would rather blow a small fortune on strelas if they’re werent ass to source right now.
>>64754261>nah cause if its anything like the other uncommon stamped guns ex: SAR-80, Pe57 then the receivers will be way too expensive.$399 +shippingI missed out on the 543 so I'm tempted. Only getting two mags sucks though.
>>64754389>Was initially looking at 1913 stocks but that shits expensiveAs was I for my AMD receiver left-over build. I don't even know what I want to do with this thing now. Built it with WBP parts so its a toss up if it decides to squish out on me. If it survives I'll rice it out >>64754419>$399Ay don't play wit me like dat. You keep fooling around like dat u gon make me acta fool. you gon make me do sum im gon regret. lowkey make me wanna tell AMD I founda new piece fr
>>64754529I made the mistake of getting the adapter before looking at the stocks. If you decide to go that route, the adapter can be yours. I decided to pick up a spare wire stock and have it sent off for the amdtech treatment. I probably should have just sent the original stock, but Im a sucker for spares/“custom” parts. Going to see if a masen pad or some other recoil pad will fit and then wrap it in something.
Figured I’d share my bulgy 74 while I’m at it
>>64754529I'd buy that off you if I didn't live in a cuck state gulag.This might be interesting to you though,https://www.robertrtg.com/jmac-customs-rsa-amd-1913-stock-brace-adapter-for-amd-65
>>64754659>have it sent off for the amd65tech treatmentIs Gio still doing work? I've been meaning to shoot him an email and set something up. Did you opt for the "drumstick" version?
>>64754664Lol. Still could be yours if your state allows it. Worst case, I slap on an acr style stock on it for giggles.
>>64754724Beats me. I’m assuming so. Been meaning to ask what the difference between the drumstick and normal versions are. I’m guessing it’s the sling loop. I’ll let you know what I find out when I get the chance.
>>64754740>Beats me. I’m assuming so.Oh, I was under the impression you'd already started the process. You have the spare stock yet?>difference between the drumstick and normal versions are.Drumstick is straightened out so it can fold with a drum inserted.
>>64754729Shit if you were local to me I'd never consider doing anything illegal of course, wouldn't want to break unconstitutional state laws of course!
>>64754754Yeah, that was poor phrasing on my part. I’m shooting for the non-drumstick ver then with 7.62 proces these days. Closer to a ghetto triangle stock.>have sore stock yetIn the mail, very soon.>>64754757I smell Maryland.
>>64754767>MarylandI'd unironically an hero if I had to live in that literal swamp.Washington. If it weren't for our dogshit laws and utter fucking retards in the state capital, it would be a 10/10 place to live. Even with a high COL.
Who makes a good loooong rail besides KPYK? Prefer picatinny but mlok is ok too
>>64752599attero arms rear sight replacement if you are just running a dot.
>>64746267I love how 6 inches of velcro strap is the difference between a pistol and an SBR. Can I just put a velcro strap on any stock and call it a brace? Lol
>>64754754Shot Gio an email. Will let you know what I hear back.>>64754922Those hold up? I’ve been out of the loop and the last I heard there were some zeroing issues with them. Could have been an early gen. I do kind of like the idea of mounting a giant ass scope. Not-an-Amp cope? Maybe.
I have a wasr with a AK74 lightning cut stock because I didn’t know the difference. What should I replace it with?
>>64754865jmackpyk is dogshit
>>64754724Gio is still doing the work. He’s up for both standard and drumstick welds.
>>64756018>kpyk is dogshit>JmacFunny, next thing you are going to say is that WBP is the best AK you can get.
Finally got around to taking my ak63 parts kit build to the range today.
Atlantic just brought in Azerbaijani ak100 parts. All virgin. Everything, sight blocks, bolts and carriers, furniture, barrels, rivet and hardware even.
>>64756689Sometimes you need to be silent and listen to people that know more than you. I'm giving you free advice. Receive it in silence. KPYK is factually dogshit. I've dealt with their medium handguard on a WeBuildPoop (WBP) and a long handguard on a Izzy 103. It was fitting "okay" on the WeBuildPoop but it looked tacky as shit so i threw it in the trash. Ukrainians just really like those "noname futuristic UE5 asset flip game on Steam" design for their accessories it's insane. On the 103, the long handguard turned out to wiggle like a boat turing a thunderstorm, i contacted KPYK about it and they told me the dumbest shit i have ever heard and i still have the screenshots, telling me "yeah it's because you installed Zenitco before on your rifle, hammering the lower handguard probably enlarged the receiver in the process". It's not a joke. They literally said that. Even in firearms accessories they can't stop seething about russia and had to come up with something. A couple of thin shims would have fixed the "problem" but between (yet again) the tacky look and the dumb ass fucking answer i've (yet again) threw that shit out the window.As for JMAC, the looks are also tacky and ricer'ish, but you absolutely can't argue about the quality and guess what they make long handguard and they don't wobble a single bit.
>>64756689>>64757107In any case, here's your anwer : >Zenitco B-30Now shoo, romanian.
>>64757112>>64757107Bros got a weird vibe. The kinda vibe when you ask your date what does she like to read and she respond “books on physical and emotional abuse” and you’re not sure if you need to walk on eggshells or she’s about to ruin your life kinda vibe. Kinda of vibe that you want to walk away but csnt stop but watching. Kinda vibe that you see them seagulls eatin but you don’t wanna eat a seagulls kind of vibe. >>64757036How’d it shoot?
>>64757107Last time I checked KYPK has a track record of it being used in Ukraine war and the other used by gun bunnies and shill tubers.
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>>64755940Romanian AKM wood laminate stock without the lightning cut if you want to be more clone correctish. But AK74 stock is fine too
