>>64711427well...they are seals, not humans after all
>>64711427This is a shit thread, but it actually does make me wonder about the current state of the SEALS if this carrier-launched force of small strike teams, was done by Army SF and Delta instead of them.
leave seals alone;_;
>SEALclubbing
SEAL is not even the best ship-based special forces unit in the US armed forces.
Oh hey I stole this to turn it into a greentext >>64710221
>>64711427They would have succeeded in ventilating maduro and his wife and whoever was in the room with him. The next few years would have involved the members of the team that entered the room arguing over the internet on who shot who while at the same time doing everything in the op image.
>>64711427Genuinely why does every seal operation sound like they're woefully underprepared and underequipped for everything?
>>64711575There are a lot of them and all they know is shoot people and swim
>>64711427LOL 6 7
>>64711427The SEALs are only special forces in wife beating, please understand they were not trained to fight the enemies abroad, just the enemy at home(slightly overcooked dinner)
>>64711575because when these guy's train they don't do shit. I remember hearing a SEAL saying that in his entire career he never reloaded a magazine once during an op. They legit do not carry water into an operation 99.99% of the time, and think having 3 mags strapped to their chests is more than enough ammo. Basically they don't do any real stuff other than push around people who aren't really expecting to be pushed around by "special forces" dudes dropping in from a chopper or whatever
>>64711516This. It's marsoc. Marines are the ultimate amphibious force.
>>64711575Navy niggas are not made for war. They are meant to run ships. Putting navy niggas in infantry roles is similar to teaching an African negro to read Shakespeare.
>>64711726>Navy niggas are not made for war. + there's this branch called marines if you like the navy and be infantry.
>>64711427Seals are the execution force. You send Delta when you have a complex op and need to keep someone alive
>>64711634>hearing a SEAL saying that in his entire career he never reloaded a magazine once during an op.Was he actually shooting at people though? Spooky over the beach shit that doesn't actually involve shooting if everything goes well is like SEALs one niche over every other sof unit in the US.
Seals are the containment group. All the chuds with low IQs and huge egos naturally gravitate there, and there they are kept happy flexing at each other how hard they are. They are given plenty of crayons and no complex ops so they can't cause any trouble. They're brought out when a blunt tool that doesn't care for either casualties or collateral is needed.
>>64711575Whenever one of their fuckups comes out, the problem is always that they design missions that are too complex while also leaving zero room for error. The former is somewhat forgivable in a SOF context (though not always, see the Korea debacle), but the latter is fucking stupid in any military operation whatsoever because something always goes wrong.The mission to capture Bin Laden is a prime example of this. Yeah, the sneaky night time flight into Pakistan was probably a necessary complexity, but they didn't have to try and land a protoype helicopter in an extremely tight walled space in adverse wind conditions just because that's how they practiced. They should have just planned to land outside like the other chopper, much less need for precision and much more room for error. Instead even though miraculously noone died the Chinese probably managed to get some intel out of it via the ISI despite trying to scrap the thing, which could have been easily avoided.
>ITT: Anons who couldn't hack it bud/s, delta or sas selection criticize sof.
>>64711575theyre all junkies who can fuck up a drug deal in a walmart parking lot in norfolk at 8pm.
>>64711770the marines are where judges put recidivist bull queers and mexicans.
>>64711899I can smell your cat piss soaked trailer though the internet Capt. SSI
So Delta did the operation?
>>64711427If it were SEAL's, one of the roid-monkeys couldn't contain his roid-rage after the operation inevitably experiences some hiccups from overconfidence, and kill Maduro with one punch. Then they have to put two bullets in his head, plant a pistol on the corpse, and then argue for the next decade which book-author made the kill-shot.
>>64711427It was run by seals tho... who do you think got on the ground?
I wonder if the negative opinion towards the seals coupled with the praise of delta will make people start to resent joining seals and instead all the musclehead dudebro insecure of their masculinity wil all go to delta, because that's were the real spec ops are, where the manly men do manly stuff, and so would turn delta into yet another glorified propaganda tool for populist governments like trumps or bush before him
>>64712096It was run by SOAR.
>>64711575You know how third world countries think that "elite special forces" means doing lots of pushups and hitting yourself in the dick with a hammer to prove how tough you are? SEALs are that but with a first world budget.
>>64712104>musclehead dudebro insecure of their masculinity wil all go to deltaroids won't get you through the long walk.
when i found out as a little kid that SEALs operate in the navy, i couldn't really understand why the navy would need soldiers like that. "aren't they just meant to be manning ships?". of course there's always going to be a use for highly trained troops in and around sea-based environments but it seems like they try to make SEALs do far too much with what they're equipped with. sending an SDV team to perform a recce on an afghan mountain? inserting them in the middle of the desert for urban combat? i mean, what the hell are the commanders thinking? that they need all the experience that they can get or what?
>>64712042I can smell the failure of a washout.
>>64712065That's what people are speculating. The government will never confirm.
>>64712065>>64712354Major news outlets are reporting it as Delta, assisted by unspecified CIA ground assets that were already in-country
>>64712361They're speculating because only the government can confirm that and they haven't.
>>64712352>you wouldnt go fight and die for israel and a community college degree!!!>REEEEEEEEEEEand all special forces are bisexual junkies. see the wife swapping parties and socom giving each other blowjobs on bragg blvd after buying the shitteist stepped on coke from mexicans in hope mills.
>>64712337They're supposed to be combat divers, underwater demolitions, coastal shenanigans, river patrols, etc. Their current state is more to inter-service rivalry, akin to Imperial Japan, where the Army had to have an aircraft carrier and the Navy had to have marine paratroopers. More dying empire shit.
>>64712388It's fucking hilarious how shitskins will call literally anything evidence of the decline of the west
>>64712396>NOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS PERFECTLY FINE!!!! NOT A SIGN OF IMPERIAL DECLINE!!!!!!
>>64711634Wait, so the SEALs don't go up against real opposition and just do seal clubbing?It all makes sense now.
>>64712414Thats what all these SOF guys train forHence why they do operations like fly chinooks into the capital of a city to capture some random guyWith not a single person killed or chopper shot down
>>64712407You are the gayest, dumbest, brownest turdie on the board.
What makes Delta force OP though? There barely any fucking movies about them but a shitload on SEALS and Rangers.
>>64712465Nice cope, fag, what shithole are you from? >uhhhh better try and distract from how shit and retarded my preferred """"superpower""""" is at everything they attempt
>>64711899Yes.Welcome to the real world, where people of *all* backgrounds are 100% free to shit on your performance even if they themselves couldn't perform. What matters isn't what they can or can't do, but whether their criticisms are accurate.
>>64712477I'm BLUFOR, faggot, but you're obviously a shitskin /pol/-tourist.
>>64712474Other than BHD, what movies do Rangers have?
>>64712474who is this hot chinese piece of ass?
>>64712474i bet little clit-dick chinks consider her to be obeseoh man id let her sit on me every day
>>64712522I too want knowledge of the cellulite bug
>>64712474sex sex sex
>>64711427Who ran it? MARSOC?
>>64712474Delta are the actual silent professionals that SEALs like to pretend they are
>>64712509That shitty "Green Berets" John Wayne movie where he carried and actual Mattel toy M-16 and portrayed a fictionalized version of the only SS-veteran buried at Arlington?
>>64711427Forgot the dozen book deals.
>>64712536finland-sama... i kneel...
>>64712536>Lauri TörniMother fucker REALLY hated commies
>>64712492Meaning people can call you out as well for being a midwit.
>seals meme'd to death as making book deals>Meanwhile in reality.
>>64712670his spirit lives on
>>64712208>VDV but amerikanskisoh I see, so it could be done if done by first world countries, got it
>>64712713A book about a unit's history is not the same as every mother fucker that even gets close to BUDs writing a god damn book about it.
>>64713035>It's ok when my favorite team does it!
>>64713085>I have a mouth and must project.
>>64712713One book written by one dude thirty years ago (that he got blackballed for BTW) is not the same thing as everyone and his mother writing tell all books plus podcasts plus coffee plus general influencer bullshit
>seals are drug abusing mearheads, delta are pure chad operaots>Meanwhile in reality.
>>64711691nah it's coasty divers
>>64711575Considering their last big operations in central america ended in them>drowning in the pacific ocean because they forgot to check the tide charts>getting routed and almost destroyed by one single BTR-60 because they forgot to bring a LAW>getting ambushed in the open and almost destroyed because they walked across an entire enemy airfield runwayI can understand why JSOC might be a little dubious. Shit, the only reason they got the Bin Laden raid was because commander of JSOC was a SEAL and had a literal autist temper tantrum until they changed the opord
This thread smells like steroids, hookers, drugs and divorce
>>64711427Honestly the SEAL's need to be either disbanded or completely rebuilt, Kennedy's pet project has been a utter disaster for the US military.
>>64712407I mean, it literally wasn't, it was interservice rivalries. Imperial Japan got killed by the US.
>post a barely-incendary opinion>TRUTH BVOMB OMGyou faggots will grind any word into dust just to make your shit opinions sound like they have a little more value.
>>64712388>>64712407Shut the fuck up Ranjeesh.
>>64711427>Account made in India
>>64713481Ok what's a jsoc and what's an opord? Don't really keep up with military stuff. Also got some good reading material on that seafood snafu?
>>64711584>any Seal born after 1993 can't operate, all they know is shoot North Korean Fishermen, charge they NVG’s, Roids, write books, eat hot chip and lie
>>64713801Joint Special Operations CommandOperation Orders
>>64713405you have no idea how far and deep that goes. the mass grave threy covered up in 2006 in johnsonville over drugs where it was bikers, cartels, socom, and blackwaters junkie squad stealing guns and explosives off post and hiding truckloads of them in the woods in moore and harnett counties.
>>64712474>fat held up by shapewearHard pass
>>64714007So what you are telling me is that Delta has better publicists than the Seals.
>>64714048delta is the least of the worst and have well trained and motivated tard wranglers watching everything they do. the real trouble is the TDY psychopaths they screen for that they let do whatever as long as they show up to board the plane to kill people for uncle sam. theyre the ones killing hookers and teen runaways along with the cartels.
>>64712509Call of duty Modern Warfare 2
>>64711575Seals are all bark no bite, retards who joined to say they are seals with half a dozen brain cells per squad. Fucking up operations happens but the seals never seem to learn from their fuckups.
>>64711771>Seals are the execution forceWhen you want to execute seals
>>64712742You bet your ass.Frankly, this whole thing feels to me like Gothic Serpent but with better planning.
>>64711575They're in the navy and focused on fucking other men.
>>64714186A Michael bay masterpiece
>>64711899I don't have to be an electrician to know when my power is off. I couldn't pass BUDS because I suck at swimming, but physically it's not really that hard.>1000-meter swim – with fins ( 20 minutes or under )>Push-ups: at least 70 ( Two-minute time limit )>Pull-ups: at least 10 ( No time limit )>Sit-ups: at least 60 ( Two-minute time limit )>Four-mile run – with shoes + pants ( 31 minutes or under )I can do everything but the swim at almost 32 years old with no issue. It's not that bad.It's dealing with tedious mental bullshit. No, I don't want to go 24 hours without sleep, be allowed to sleep 2 hours, then woken up and told to sit on a beach for two hours getting pelted by the surf. I get it's training you for mental toughness, but there are better ways to train that. I'm not going to do that, because I value my time more. I understand the irony of saying that while posting on /k/ at 11:00 PM.You weren't in any military, let alone SOF, and you are fat. Being fat means you are a subhuman with a worthless opinion.
>>64712104>I wonder if the negative opinion towards the seals coupled with the praise of delta will make people start to resent joining seals and instead all the musclehead dudebro insecure of their masculinity will all go to deltaThe general public still thinks SEAL= total badass. As long as that exists, and the dudebro podcasts exists, they'll still join the seals. Wanting to appear tough and actually being tough are different. Doesn't mean they can get through Delta even if they want to.
>>64712104>musclehead dudebro insecure of their masculinity wil all go to deltaDoubtful, since you can’t go directly into selection for Delta after boot camp like you can the SEALs
>>64714521Sorry, not boot camp. I’m a little retarded and also exhausted.What I meant was that you can join the training and selection pipeline for the SEALs right off the street via a recruiter. But Delta only ever takes people that are already military (generally either Rangers or Green Berets) so there’s a much finer filter for retards and shitbirds. Not perfect mind you, but better.
>>64711575Because those are the only ones worth talking about. Nobody remembers all the fights where mike tyson DIDN'T bite somebody's ear off.
>>64711427I mean their unit is named after a fat lazy animal which is famously slow and vulnerable when on land.
>>64712509if we're talking about characters with ranger background, movies-wise, we've got quite a few>Con-Air(1997)>Basics(2003)>The A-Team(2010)>Triple Frontier(2019), at least one of them(Benny) was a ranger>Dog(2022)in terms of TV series>The Unit>Justified, Deputy Marshal Gutterson was a ranger sniper
>>64711427How many gay ass podcasts would've been started?
>>64714484I can do everything here except 70 push ups. I've never tried going past 50, most I can do is probably 55. I'd have to train more for that but I could do it with some time.
>>64712036You could've just called them the Texan containment unit and saved yourself a few words
>>64714694Or just Mexicans to be even less repetitive.
>>64713735>Kennedy's pet project has been a utter disaster for the US militaryDon't blame Kennedy because he didn't anticipate the GWoT four decades after his death or how lax oversight and utter political disinterest in details would lead to complete chaos and lunatics in running the asylum.
>>64713745>it was interservice rivalriesthat's literally what he said, anon
>>64711427I blame tom clancy and his rainbow six series that portrayed the seals as steven seagal characters.
>>64711691this, they even have metal gear RAY
>>64714640Vulnerable my ass, have you ever seen a seal irl? They're big as a cow. Sure they're clumsy but they can catch up to you frighteningly fast if you don't take the hint. Also, try to tangle with a 4 ton bull elephant seal, they can crumple a pickup with a fart
>>64712065There was one source that actually already said it was SEALs that grabbed Maduro. Might have been S2 underground. So I’m enjoying this thread and waiting to see if the other shoe drops.
>>64712361Intelligence support activity, advanced force operation.
>>64712474Is that the orange dragon?
>>64715154>Intelligence support activity, advanced force operation.Six months of advance team surveillance apparently including a full-scale mock-up of the safe house.Seems to have used a similar game plan to Neptune Spear but with less fucking around at gates and doors and more breach and clear.Less (possibly zero) civilian casualties too and of course they managed to fly a damaged helo out instead of demoing it on-site.
>>64714484>>Four-mile run – with shoes + pants ( 31 minutes or under )Thats wrong. Thats a sub 6 min/mile pace.
>>64715140Seals were nearly hunted to extinction because humans can just walk up to them with a club and bonk their skulls in.
There's a Kiwifarms thread that thoroughly details all the massive fuckups of US Socom and after the fall of the USSR their abandonment of a professional mindset in favor of a warrior mindset. It's 90% Seals and Delta with Rangers and Green Berets being relatively normal.
>>64711575Because they aren't actually that good at their jobs on top of not training to use assets well.
>>64712474They place alot more emphasis on critical thinking and problem solving. They also do alot more glowie shit then the Seals according to Haney's book Inside Delta Force and that TV show The Unit
>>64714484Those limits are very low.
>>64714484The thing about special forces is that you can technically get in on the minimum requirements but you will be the lowest-performing member of the unit and everyone will bully you until you improve. Really they're looking for people who beat those targets by a significant margin.
>>64712388Calm down Adolf.Having some redundancy is really not that bad, as long as they don't start calling airstrikes on each other.
>>64713745>Imperial Japan got killed by the US. Meanwhile Imperial Japan: >WHAT THE FUCK IS A YAGI-UDA? WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S JAPANESE? THOSE NAVY FUCKS!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi%E2%80%93Uda_antenna>Despite its being invented in Japan, many Japanese radar engineers were unaware of the design until late in the war, partly due to rivalry between the Army and Navy. >The Japanese military authorities first became aware of this technology after the Battle of Singapore when they captured the notes of a British radar technician that mentioned "yagi antenna". >Japanese intelligence officers did not even recognise that Yagi was a Japanese name in this context. >When questioned, the technician said it was an antenna named after a Japanese professor.
>>64714484Those numbers are the bare fucking minimum to get in the door. If that's all you can do you're gonna get crushed.
>>64711427Fuckin lmao
>>64714484>1000-meter swim – with fins ( 20 minutes or under )Eh that's doable if you're fit and know how to s->with finsLol.>10 pull upsLmao.I'd probably struggle with the run, I hate running.And the push ups are respectable, but nothing you couldn't do with a few weeks of prep time.
>>64715821>Invented in 1926Fucks sake.
>>64711575I’m going to quote Mr. Bob from the JSOC compound on Bragg when they give you the welcome briefing before deployment>No more fucking booksThese try hard dipshits turn everything into a major event when it’s just a simple kill/capture raid. If the target is in a house next to the beach sending in a dive team to infiltrate from the water and drag some third world drug lord onto a waiting zodiac is a logical choice. Admiral McCraven sending his nepo babies in experimental prototype classified helicopters to snag Bin Laden from an inland compound, kill everyone inside, crash said experimental prototype, almost smoke a dozen civilians staring at them in the street, and then shout ME! ME! ME! from the fucking rooftops after another botched operation is just blatant faggot behavior. CAG should have run that op. Rangers should have been second in line. The JV squad made up of 19 year olds are more professional than those fucking clowns.
>>64712388Poo goes in the loo.
>>64715213Anon, check your math on that one.
>>64714484>>1000-meter swim – with fins ( 20 minutes or under )i do 1250 in 35 with no aids, so with fins could probably do it>>Push-ups: at least 70 ( Two-minute time limit )as in, all in one rep? cause i do 100, but not in 2 minutes, 10x10 repsdunno about the rest but the thing is, i'm a fucking lanklet, isn't this supposed to be like twice the amount? this looks like amateur tier
>>64716044>as in, all in one rep?yes.>isn't this supposed to be like twice the amount? this looks like amateur tierit's the bare minimum to show that you're healthy enough to train. you're going to be running and swimming a lot further than the minimums.
>>64715541That entire thread is a gigantic fucking circlejerk that reads like some lolbertarian's anti-war blog from 2008. 50% of the posts come from some fag who keeps dick sucking Seth Harp and has a melty whenever anyone makes fun of him while the rest is just people regurgitating the same talking points from 2004>Muh ZOG>Muh Six Gorillion Brown People I don't know how they're reacting to Venezuela but I assume it's just the same copes people are posting on Xitter and /pol/
>>64712474theres something i can watch for ever
>>64715821'luv me yagi
>>64715821If you think that's crazy, wait until you read about Pyotr Ufimtsev.
>>64716176>He was granted permission to publish his research results internationally because they were deemed to have no significant military or economic value.
>>64712388It's funny you say that because the entire mission structure of the seals (and marines) is transitioning to support roles closer to their original inception. So you don't know what you're talking about.
>>64711691Who?
>>64714484>but there are better ways to train thatThe filter is working as intended
>>64712670We should all so aspire to as much.
>>64712104SEALs got a lot of flak recently after they shot up a few North Korean fishing boats after failing to plant a microphone.
>>64712380Robert how do I know this is you? Are you so bored of meg that you find literally any thread to bitch about the US military?
>>64716085are military pushups expected to be the slow full rom kind or just a passable pushup?
>>64714686Yeah I don't really train for push ups either, but I'll do 50 or 60 at the end of a chest/arms day. Maybe once a week or once every two weeks. 70 would be a challenge but with fresh muscles and/or training specifically for it, it's not that bad.And if your trying to get through BUDS your full time job is being in shape. I assume you, like me, have a full time job and working out is a hobby.
>>64715140>have you ever seen a seal irl?Have you?
>>64716208Elaborate
>>64715821Sheeeit, these were all over our commblocks but I never new it was Nipponess.
>>64711634this sounds like BS ngl
>>64715750>>64715825Yeah. I can exceed those because they aren't that hard. But those ARE the requirements. It's what they say is enough and you can't change that.SEALs aren't special physically. If you were a varsity level athlete in high school and put in some effort you can do it. Not to mention the rampant juicing (which I don't have an issue with).
>>64715213Average SEAL intellect on full display right here. Explains a lot.
>>64714007>>64714007The post claims:A mass grave vovered up in 2006 involving SOCOM, cartels, bikers, and Blackwater.Truckloads of stolen weapons hidden in the woods.There is no evidence for this. None.No missing persons spikeNo forensic discoveryNo indictmentsNo journalists, whistleblowers, or court recordsNo land seizures or EPA/ATF actions (which always leave paper trails)A real mass grave tied to U.S. forces on U.S. soil would be fucking impossible to hide and politically nuclear.
>>64711436at least they're cute
>>64711575Navy also has all that weird tradition around rank like Chief's mess, army and AF don't do that shit. Sure that works if you're trying to prevent mutinies on a ship but in actual ops you need information to flow and can't have a culture where this dude is a genuine retard but he made it to E7 so he just knows better.
>>64712380>ll special forces are bisexual junkies. see the wife swapping parties and socom giving each other blowjobs on bragg blvd after buying the shitteist stepped on coke from mexicansThey sound like they know how to party.Wife swapping is just a way to embrace the rule of Jody.If you at least know that Jody is going to be your squadmate then you can fuck their wife when you're on leave and it's all good.
>>64716452full rom as fast as you can for 2 minutes. i've seen people do 1 a second.
>>64711575because they are elite troops that think they are commandos. They should be doing Ranger shit, not Delta shit.
>>64711575You only see their high profile fuck ups. You don't hear about how they hunted down Taliban recruiters.
>>64716469>I assume you, like me, have a full time job and working out is a hobby.Yeah I'm a mechanical engineer, fucking nerd irl. I like working out though in my free time.
>>64711466When it comes to Latin America, it was always the Army's special. Also airbrone, ranger, and delta have always been the actual ones to get big boy ops; theyre actual first to the fight ususally speaking.
>>64712474There's a whole series of DF movies
>>64712388>>64712407You are Chinese
>>64711899Nope, I am proudly a neverserved. The quote goes something like this: one need not be Caesar in order to understand Caesar.
>>64716185This is an example of why communism always fails. In the absence of profit motive, all that exists is the inevitable human flaw of corrupt power structure. This happens no matter what the system, but when you add profit motive to it, cutting edge ideas are actively sought after for business advantages. It's a great example>American cold war defense industry companies actively seeking new tech ideas to secure future contracts instead of relying solely on corruption>Soviet defense industry companies relying entirely on who knows who while their government plant no nothings completely ignore important advances>>64715213>31/4=6kek
>>64711899Or you could just stay home where it’s warm and cozy while making more money and not have to sleep deprive yourself and get lifelong injuries so you have the privilege to do cool guy ops for an Israeli puppet state. Also not have to be around a bunch of sociopathic orcs that love cocaine and hookers and domestic abuse in their free time.
>da jooz
>>64716419I lived in fayetteville, and saw these bullqueers acting like nogs and queens everywhere they go. THEIR WIVES ARE FAT OR SOME MYSTERY MEAT MUTTESS
>>64717119That reminds me that one of the ways the SU fell behind in computer technology is because when a superior design won government approval the guys who backed the losing design used their connections to the guys running the manufacturing plants to get them to produce parts for their machine rather than the winner. >>64717123>not knowing the joy of a snorting a fat line and choking out a whore while you fuck herI don't know whether to laugh at you or pity you.
>>64711575The GWOT thrusted them into roles they were never meant to fill. A lot of fucked up shit that happened to our military can be blamed on the GWOT.
sooooooo...... what are the odds some of the Delta Force guys stayed behind in Venezuela or even got dropped elsewhere? Wasn't one of big things they did in Afghanistan to help organize the Northern Alliance prior to the US actually invading?
>>64718748>what are the odds some of the Delta Force guys stayed behindZero.If they needed guys to do that, there would be a different team doing that already.You wouldn't send an exhausted team fresh out of the fire into a new op and carry two entirely different sets of gear on the helo to do both things.They *only* sent like 150 guys max to assault the safe house.They have thousands of other guys they can send in separately to train Contras if they really want to go that route.I think part of why ziggers are oblast-posting as seething Europeans is because this abduction, unlike Noriega, who was a US puppet that got too cocky, Maduro was a more or less a zigger puppet and the rule of the cold war was always that containment is overt but roll-back is covert.This was overt roll-back of Team Dictator's influence, which exceeds and escalates past Reagan Doctrine.
>>64713481What operation was this
>>64719811Grenada or Panama. One of them was shot in the arm and had to swim for hours.
>>64712474training & experience
>>64714661>The A-TeamI thought the A-Team were Delta
>>64720259>all the enemies just cowering like no no pls don't do it
>>64713481They were did Neptune spear because the delegations was effectively delta in Iraq. Seal team 6 in Afghanistan. If Osama was in Iran it likely delta would have been the dudes to go in.
>>64720470A-Team come from Operational Detachment Alpha - Army Special Forces AKA Green Berets.
>>64720536no but did u see that part where he jumped over that little dry creek thing?
crazy how trvth nvukes are always a very safe or mainstream opinion
>>64720694yeah that was sick
>>64713405This guy's a fucking idiot, do you really want to use him as a source?Note, he also just tried to dox the commander of CAG, fixed the wrong guy, and then got his Texas house fixed instead.
>>64720704that's because the truth is mundane and pervasive. It's not a nuke or disruptive. it's just right there broh we all see it.
>>64720795*Doxxed not fixed.
>>64720536How else are you suppose to react when a bunch of armed men break into your home in the middle of the night?
>>64720821shoot them in the back after they run by me.
>>64720821Like this https://x.com/WeaponOutfitter/status/2006433364493086788
>>64720865>screaming "police" while breaking down someone's doorhaha>shooting at someone for screaming "police" while breaking down your doorbasedI live for this kinda drama.
>>64711575if you want to take over a boat, send SEALs. if you want to do anything else, send literally anyone else.
>>64720865>So how did you know they weren't the real police? >They weren't?
>>64714484>1000-meter swim – with fins ( 20 minutes or under )I legitimately have no idea how I'd do on that.>Push-ups: at least 70 ( Two-minute time limit )I would have (and did) smoke that while I was in. >Pull-ups: at least 10 ( No time limit )Easy. >Sit-ups: at least 60 ( Two-minute time limit )Absolutely smoked this too. 80-90 usually.>Four-mile run – with shoes + pants ( 31 minutes or under )Harder, just because running was always my weakest part of the APFT, but still perfectly doable. Hell, we probably did battalion runs faster than that.
>>64716185>Lockheed stole that shit and used it to make the F-117 Kek kino
>>64714686I never did train for pushups, but when I was serious about working out and hitting those 1RM bench records, I tried doing some pushups out of curiosity. I did like 30 and felt no strain whatsoever and stopped out of a feeling of pointlessness.
>>64722521>>I did like 30 and felt no strain whatsoever and stopped out of a feeling of pointlessness.That's why I always stopped at 50. Gets boring at that point and feels like a chore. I recently used my pull up bar so I could dip further to make them more challenging and now I stop at 30 which makes it feel much better as an exercise. I start to lose my mind doing high rep exercises.
>>64711466I thought it was common knowledge that delta is a tier above the rest in the SF community
>>64711575Because there are many different seal teams with different levels of competence. Seal team six is a completely different thing with its own organization and funding vs random steal teams that do underwater demolition or some shitit's like if Delta was just named as a random Army SF group, and people started comparing random SF operations to Delta, when they are an entirely different thing.
>>64711691What have marsoc ever done?
>>64720865Extremely based
>>64722651>>64722521There are evolutions to push ups, there is always another type of push up that you can only do three of before failure
For anyone who’s swam competitively that time is a joke. That’s the national qualifying time for 65-69 year old women with no fins. One would expect better from 18 year olds in Navy SEALs.https://www.usms.org/content/scnats00nqt
This is what Indonesians think of your so-called "elite" Delta Force
>>64723201>minimum standards in a single, specialized criteria are higher than minimum standards in a single part of multiple simultaneous criteriaThe women's high jump record is twice the height of highest NBA dunk.
>>64723524…They know that none of the casualties in Eagle Claw were Delta, right?
>>64712104you can join the seal as a civilian, the same is not true for Delta
>>64712713this is the only book about delta force that I have found and it's over 20 years ago
>>64712509Hills have eyes
>>64712509BHD also had Delta operators
>>64712474hmmm
>>64723757Best Operator soundtrack. Every Operator should play this in the background when mission planning. I like the extended mix.https://youtu.be/Fbf9Fjsylmw?si=xvK0qi3WXHwgXHLc
>>64712474Well when Delta has it's movies they are by Chuck Norris himself.
The guys in Sicario are meant to be Delta right?
>>64714484I'm 49. I can do all of this. The swim part might be an issue though since I have Thalassophobia.>>Pull-ups: at least 10 ( No time limit )Are you fucking kidding me? That's it?
>>64714682About tree fiddy
>>64714686I do 100 a day. 50 in the morning, 50 before bed. It ain't hard
>>64715213Post bmi
>>64716087/k/ is definitely being raided and spammed. Also picrel. Sorry for your loss /b/rother
>>64715821As an rf nerd...fucking based. Ever make a Pringles Cantenna?
>>64717039Based
>>64719796CIA had ground assets embedded and I guarantee they are still there
>>64722720Ostensibly SEAL Team 6 is (was?) supposed to be on par with Delta. In practice that has never been the case, especially in recent years
>>64723869>Feels.jpgI miss the 80s man. They say history repeats itself. Panama Canal when?
>>64724222Past tense fren
>>64724222Shit, chkd
>>64711485Theyre kinda pussies if you really think about it
>>64723540> leaving your feet downwards makes you 6 feet closer to the ground Shocking revelation
>>64717123>sociopathic orcs that love cocaine and hookers and domestic abuse in their free timeThis perfectly describes most of the SF guys I’ve met
>>64724004>The guys in Sicario are meant to be Delta right?That's the popular theory. There's significant fan consensus on it by a process of elimination since they don't look like anything else (clearly not SEALs, MARSOC and not obviously GB or whoever else and arguably not SAD either or there would be a very different relationship between our favourite sandlewear enthusiast and our favourite hotel complementaries enjoyer, they'd basically be based in the next cubicle over and be swapping office gossip between slaughtering surrendering gangbangers and arguing about the ethics of executing a child for the sake of a cover-up.Anyway, picrel seems to be the inspiration for our underpaid spec ops buddy so that's another point for Delta but literally nothing is canon on the topic.
>>64712509>what movies do Rangers have?They show up as the antagonists in "Deliverance"
>>64726038>they don't look like anything else (clearly not SEALs, MARSOC and not obviously GBHow are these guys suppose to look like?
>>64724222Delta has been running circles around Devgru and eating their lunch for years. Their one big claim to fame, Bin Laden, wasn't even supposed to be their rodeo. It was Delta's but turns out he was in the Navy's AO and it was basically impossible to fight at that point.Theres a reason why Delta can recruit from any branch, but the Seals can't, and why Seals will transition from the teams to Delta, but never back.
>>64726216>Their one big claim to fame, Bin LadenThe rescued a boat crew in Africa and a nurse in another incident.
>>64726216>Theres a reason why Delta can recruit from any branch, but the Seals can't, and why Seals will transition from the teams to Delta, but never back.Because it would take too long. No one wants to do 2 years of SEAL training and spend years on a SEAL team for a chance to out for ST6. They're already old by the time they get a chance to try out for these units.
>>64712104I'm pretty sure seals are the only SF group with open recruitment. It seems like a way to filter out people who lack the intelligence, mental toughness, or leadership to hack it in the rest of the sf community while still putting their muscles and ego to good use.
>>64716191>It's funny you say that because the entire mission structure of the seals (and marines) is transitioning
>be seals >do nothing >/k/ seethes about them anyway
>>64726269Most non tier 1 units seem to have some pathway open from the recruitment office to SOF. the navy has SEAL contracts, the army has the 18x program for SF, option 40 for rangers, even the air force has a civilian to sof pipeline. SEALs are unquestionable a valuable recruitment trap for the navy, but they're hardly unique in their civilian to operator path. the biggest distinction between navy sof and army based SF or rangers is their lack of institutional infantry based background compared to their army counterparts.
>>64724181Right? 10 pull-ups for an "elite" unit is pathetic. Even if it's the bare minimum
>>64726340>be seals>do nothingYeah anon. That's the problem
>>64726340>do nothingYou hit the nail on the head with a 0.1mm deviation.
>>64711466SEAL Team 6 apparently botched that North Korean operation recently and well, Trump doesn't like "losers"He'll probably never use them again for anything he orders himself, kek
>>64726795I'm ignorant, but I though the 18x and option 40 gave you a path where there were a few failure points where you could wash out before selection whereas buds was open to anyone, even people from other branches. My only primary source is a guy I went to HS with who enlisted in '03, had his first deployment before he could exercise his ranger option, then went GB, and from there was obviously recruited to something else.
The US needs to reassess and consolidate its SF. Not because any of them are 'bad', but there are way too many and we're starting to get Japanese Army-Navy tier factionalism. Delta, Seals, Rangers, Green Berets,. The US should have only one elite SF designation. Hate rivalries, hate bloat. Half of these are clinging to "we were last relevant decades ago, please let us stick around forever" ego trips.
>>64727433As nice an idea that is, it rests every SF egg in one basket. At that point, it would have to become its own branch or face even worse factionalism.Besides, there are too many functions SF performs to count on your hands and toes. You can't consolidate that without losing specific functions or making everything more stupid than usual. Or both. Probably both. I don't disagree about that factionalism but pooling everything together is a terrible idea.
>>64727456Maybe you're right about a "one sized fits all" SF, but putting them all under the same command structure would be preferable to "every branch gets its own very special boy, maybe even two".
>>64727433>factionalismYeah. No.You've been on the internet WAY too much. Every single one of those units has a very unique mission profile, dimwit, and none of them has suffered any mission creep. They don't step on each other AT ALL.The only problem is you never-served dopes keep believing movies and uninformed newstards represent the reality.
>>64714694>>64714728
>>64712474needtoimpregnateintensifiesbeyondtolerablelimits.jpg
>>64712670It's called sanity
>>64712723Uncontrollably based
>>64713766They understand how wide train tracks are, but they still haven't figured out how wide trains are
>>64726038More proof that the most dangerous men in the world look like IT guys/grade school teachers
>>64727483Why are you typingLike this?What did your enter keyEver doTo you?
>>64711427>Seals: 20s>Rangers: late 20s early 30s>Delta: mid-30sWell yeah, they're built for purpose as special marines.
>>64727417>even people from other branches.not to my knowledge. maybe if you're getting ready to ETS from some other branch maybe you could speak to a recruiter to reup in the navy, but if you're just some dude with another few years left on your contract from another branch, you can't just go try out for bud/s. Delta allegedly takes all comers if you're decent enough to get a spot for selection and have a command merciful enough to approve your packet. I've heard conflicting things about whether Devgru does the same though it's a suckers bet to assume anything but 90%+ of their candidates come from the other regular SEAL teams. Fuck only knows what the deal is with 24 STS, but I'd wager they probably come mostly from in house of the AFSOC if not virtually all of their candidates.
>>64727483>Every single one of those units has a very unique mission profileIn theory but not in practice. Otherwise explain why your amphibious special forces are deploying in the mountains of fucking Afghanistan when they are purpose built land units for that. Don't say personnel constraints. We have plenty of SF soldiers.You're white knighting for people that don't even know you exist just like your upper-middle class liberal does for their pet minorities.
>>64727642> explain why your amphibious special forces are deploying in the mountains of fucking AfghanistanBecause the Navy bitched and moaned until they got their slice of the pie. Which doesn’t even begin to come close to Imperial “We’re going to lose tens of thousands of soldiers to disease because we don’t believe in Navy Science” Japan.
>>64727659>nooooo it's not as bad as imperial japan>that means the Navy bitching and moaning to deployed to a desert isn't outside their parametersDid you even read and think about what you wrote? Come on dude.
>>64720694he stepped over it?
