/arg/ m80 fishing expedition editionPreviously>>64710123
>>64717361Post your catches
Anybody waiting for their can to be approved by the atf? It's already ready to be picked up at my lgs. I'm looking at iron sights to buy but they're all 1.42 height and that shit hurts my neck. I think the only ones that are 1.57 and up are scalarworks.
matey tried to crawl in my sleeping bag last time we hung out.
If you can’t tell which set up is the glaringly retarded one then I’m probably talking about yours
>>64717389Mine got approved in under 30 hours.
>>64717380Best I can do on this phone
Should I just get another 30 cal can and an adapterOr a 6mm canI'm worried a 5.56 one will restrict me options wise a bit too much
>>64717402> it's another COG/ergo grip threadbased
>>64717405nobody cares about your opinion lol
>>64717453the anti-coggers forced me to put it back on
>>64717361If you’re cold, they’re cold, let them in
>>64717437What rod and reel?
Wastin/gg/ your lives.
>>64717475Lews tlc3000 and an eagle claw 4 piece
>>64717460then why did you reply to me twice bozo
>>64717495>not shimano, daiwa or penn
>>64717515>shimanoFuck those niggersI went through 3 of their calipers on my XC bikeIn this household we use HOPE
I like the way the Cent grip panels look, but the plastic mlok backing and screws that come with them aren't great.Often the screws will still spin in the plastic backing even after they're tightened down and with enough pressure the panels will slide in their mlok slots, no way to tighten them down enough that they stay put. Anyone else have this problem?
>>64717515I too have intense fishing tackle autism.>t. owns a shimano stella other high end reels>>64717568I have some of those centurion rail covers from 5 years ago that had issues coming loose but not the newer ones with the screw that has a course thread pitch.
>>64717599>I too have intense fishing tackle autism.I just use those small prodigy travel rods. Works on my machine. Thinking about getting a cane pole next. Maybe a tanarka? Or whatever they are for an actual real mini rod. I hate carrying shit if it can't fit in a single zip lock baggy I dont need to bring it.
>>64717456you don't have to, especially if its the wider throw or you're using it in closer range, but usually its helpful to center the illumination to your aim point, and at longer distances you might need to shift it to account for terrain between you and your target.
>>64717626I do 90% saltwater inshore fishing and maybe 10% bass fishing since I got bored of the tournament scene a few years ago. I like the temple fork outfitters traveler for a backpack rod. Tenkara is fun for panfish.
Yeah
>>647176747.62 surefire can?
I wish more companies would texture their rails like solgw did it looks nice.
>>64717714I have access to a layzor, might give it a shot eventually
If you don't have EMP protection for your guns it's practically a paper weight BUY NOW
>>64717714>>64717721I have had the thought in the back of my head of trying to find a shop that would put that texture on my handguard.
>>64717728Actually smart if it's also a fireproof bag. EMPs are fake and gay but if you're putting a gun in a bag you might as well get some meme points too.
>>64717747I checked the website it's just a faraday bag for schizos.
>>64717714Just spray it with truck bed liner
ACOG dominance worldwide
>>64717891>not one used in the maduro raid
>>64717895plenty of Venezuelans probably had DRMO'd ones
>>64717895Proofs?
>>64717895>not a single ACOG used in the fake raid set up by jews to gain control of more natty resources oh
>>64717944I was there. We used eotech.
>>64717963>taking natural resources from brown countries is bad actuallyhuh
>>64717944>>64717964It's true. We had to rezero and change batteries once we landed.
>>64717932and lets check in how that went -oh
>>64717983Yeah well the optics probably still work.
>>64717964And the eokeks were all delaminated once the cool guys were back in the US
>>64717974China and Russia had dibs on those resources so naturally they are upset
Do we have any pics of the gun setups used?
>>64717991Not mine. I had a strip of electrical tape on top.
>>64717964I was there and YOU had eotech, the rest of us had COGs. IIRC you forgot to turn on your dot before the raid, so me and the rest of the unit had to cover for you while you took cover to enable your dot and adjust the brightness.
>>64717997yeah, this was one
>>64718002
>>64718008Delta force really dripped out
>>64718009that kind of looks like an ACOG
Please Trump PLEASE release the gopro combat footage I know was taken I want to see the cuban special forces fight
alright bros how are we feeling about the DNT hydra? HS635 gives you 640 with 60hz refresh at under 2k once you put a discount code in
>>64718039I had the same question. So far from what I'm reading it seems to be fine. I might get one to replace my agm 384.
>>64718019It's not. Trust me, I was there.
>>64718009>Still posting this fake pictureDamn
>>64717168>For 300 pick a supersonic and subsonicZero for the supers (because super 300 is the real deal) and then run subsonic and remember your holds.This exactly. The two dots solution is totally retarded. A switchable reticle would be cool, but that is tech. At the end of the day shooting subs beyond max point blank range, any distance where a significant hold is required, just shouldn't be done. IMO subs are for 100m and in, more reasonably 50m and in. >>64717181>>64717191>>64717221Nah 300blk is still sick af. Newer and better subs are being developed, 238 grain and 242 expanding. Fast hot 110 grain stuff rips, Mountains Mullets, Merica dude just did a video making ezpz consistent hits at 655yds WITH actual energy given it is a 110gr projectile out of a fucking 9" barrel. 5.56 can't do that. And as much as retards might want to facetiously shit on le subsonic ninja posting, the same retards don't talk shit on subsonic quiet 9mm setups... So where is the consistency? Subsonic quiet guns are very much useful, and being able to accurately delivery an expanding 220-250gr projectile quietly with an AR ergo platform, that you can swap a magazine in and now shoot ammunition with 1.3-1.5x the muzzle energy as typical 55gr, but doing it all in an 8" barrel...IMO most that don't get/like 300blk either haven't looked into it, are too dumb to understand math/numbers, or are just being luddite contrarians. I just picked up some 147 grain supers for 47cpr shipped the other day, and some nice 220gr subs for 65cpr or so shipped. >>64717258But it isn't cheap insurance, that is the thing, and the risk that you're describing I think is outsized. I've heard plenty about poor zero retention on chinkshit LAMs, but as I said earlier a 4" circle for a face shot at 5yds is an 80 MOA target. Even the worst of chink LAMs are holding that. Overall durability and longevity of the units seems to be fine. I've got around 4000rounds under mind, and haven't seen any issues.
>>64718053Isn't that an edit from someone else with his face slapped on?
>>64718053ok heres the real one
>>64718039>>64718048DNT Hydra HS635 seems to be the best current value in COTI based off of like youtube videos and specs. >>64717674>no backup red dot>Streamlight shit light?>Dumb huge long heavy SF canBad build, but good to see the super safety, even if it is the dumb crossbolt one.
What happened with that eotech 3-9? Did everyone just conclude it sucked? I never hear it being discussed anymore anywhere
>>64718062That's what I heard at first but now it's supposedly totally AI>>64718065Why must zoomers make every world event a meme?
>>64718093I think everyone who wanted a 3-9 went to trij sneedo
>>64718093Considering swapping out my 1-8x for one but I already have too many optics and not enough rifles to put them on.I'd consider trading my ACOG in for one but I haven't actually handled one of the Eotechs yet
>EOTechs and and Block IIsWE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BOIS THIS COMBO IS ETERNAL IT WILL STILL BE USED ON MARS!
I have $300 gift card for Scheels and I think I'm gonna get a can from themRugged 5.56 razorOr maybe a dead air nomad .30Rugged 7.62 AxialHuxwerks ventum (.30 cal version maybe)Dead air 5.56 but I heard the backpressure is extreme16" barrel with Carbine gas it is already a tad over gassed
I gotta laugh at the absolute retarded nitpicks that brain damaged midget has regarding peoples builds.
>>64718141All of those are absolutely terrible.
>>64718143>that brain damaged midgetWhile you are objectively correct in this regard, everything he says is 100% fact and you are just a retarded nigger with a shit gun build.
>>64718146Rugged cans are alright imo just not that quiet.I already have a couple, .30 for my 300 and a 9mm.Why I almost think I should just get a .30 caliberLess pop and flash is all I'm after
>>64718155The razor 5.56 is particularly bad since it's just the razor 7.62 with different baffle spacing. It is not a real 5.56 can. It uses the same exact bore diameter as the 7.62.
>>64718153not even my gun, and I fucking hate ACOGs. Should I go elcan or LPVO for my next rifle. I wanna use an RH25 with it
>>64718187LPVO is better for a thermal given you aren't forced into 1x or 4x with no adjustment in between
OKYHM Turbo K RBOrOCL Polonium KI will use the card for a microdot
>>64718132I just want to remind everyone that A2 believes he is on the same skill level as these men and that he could have probably pulled off this operation alongside them.
>>64718220Idk about A2 but I definitely could
>>64718219Polo K, OCLman is kinda based
>>64718219Polo k is a well proven performer.
>>64718220I could have pulled it off by myself.
>>64718196Would a Poortex Viper PST 1-6x/7x work for this?
>>64718237youre just looking at a screen so probably
>>64718187>>64718196Unless you’re going with a 14.5/16” and a full sized handguard to match there will likely not be enough room everything else is going with a 10/11” barrel.Elcans are very short, especially the 1/4 variety which means you still have enough rail space to have a normal grip and continue using your gizmos.
>>64718237The lpvo takes up a ton of rail space so if this is on an sbr I'd rather have the elcan but if it's on something like a 14.5 its fine and you still have plenty of space for the thermal in front
>>64718220A2 volunteers as OpFor at DARC. I don’t think he’s ever said he’s on the same level as DEVGRU
All /arg/ posters could have pulled off this op especially since resistance was minimalthe fuq lil paco gonna do?
>>64718268I'll have you know that every person that attends DARC once is the equivalent of an entire Ranger Battalion
is the sig CV25 A2 approved?
>MFT stock>K2 grip>Keymod rail>SI cookie cutter brake>Sig Romeo 4T>BCA Side charging upperthoughts?
What's the best stripped lowers to stock up on before my state makes purchasing semi-autos impossible?Should I really just buy a batch of some PSA lowers at like $40 a pop or whatever?
>>64718343Once they raised the price of those to within 500 bucks of an RH25 I lost all interest
here to establish the shit end of the functional rifle spectrum before my shift begins in 9 hours>>64715845as long as you have a good qd mount I think it's decently versatile for a $600 thermal. There are much better options for sure, but it's got potential out to 200-300y based on my limited testing. Hunted a hog with it in FL and seemed to work well in the jungle>>64718344>MFT Stock>not braceso close. nice digits tho>>64715836bayonet is mint
>>64718372>>64718067uh oh hes having a stroke
>>64718141Axial is the most interesting of the ones you listed. >>64718219YHM Turbo K RB for sure. Lighter, smaller, and an actual Inconel blast baffle vs OCL budget shit stainless. >>64718343Sig is never approved>>64718344>MFT>Keymod>SI anything >Sig anything >BCA anythingDecent bait. >>64718378Lol 4chanx acting up.
>>64718348>Should I really just buy a batch of some PSA lowers at like $40 a pop or whatever?They can't all be out of spec
>>64718349still 2700 with any sort of pro discount
>>64718393Blast baffle geometry matters more than material in certain cases.>queue video of Q southpaw inconel blast baffle being destroyed in a machinegun meltdown while the polo k is fine
>>64718412Where? 4MR says its goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bjacq2Shg4
>>64718425expert voice
New long boi
>>64718425He gives me total shill vibes. I do watch his content as he tends to consistently put out videos on new products but I try to read between the lines and I also assume every product review is just the modern take on an infomercial.
>>64718425>coti>25mm objoiamlaffin
>>64718393Literally about 30 seconds late dog
>>64718416The Southpaw drama was fun. Good times.
>>64718473Don't listen to that retard YHM anything is nigger tier.
>>64718446
>>64718512Well in all honesty I was gonna get a Fat Cat but I saw the Polo K was actually in stock so I snatched it up.5" still seems long on my 16" but oh well.I was interested in the incorporated flash hider and 6mm compatability.I direct thread only and just leave my rifle supressors attached.
>>64718473Arguably the Polonium K is in a slightly different weight and length class as the YHM Turbo K RB. Polonium K is 4.8" long and 11.5oz no mountTurbo K RB is 4.6" long but 8.7oz no mountSolid weight differenceTurbo K RB though has a Stellite Cobalt 6 (basically Inconel) bast baffle while the Polonium K is all stainless, so durability will go to the Turbo K RB. Also the Turbo K RB is almost certainly lower back pressure by a solid margin. The Polonium K undoubtedly will have better at muzzle suppression. IMO between it being longer, heavier, and not having an Inconel/Stellite/Haynes blast baffle, I would not have gone with the Polonium K. >>64718512YHM has been making legit shit for like many decades now. >>64718527>16" Polonium KYou better have gas management stuff ready. That fucker is gonna be pissin gas. I like the Bootleg adjustable carrier, and an H2 or H3 won't hurt either and gets you set up for an FRT or SS later.
>>64718527>Fat CatHad you seen this:https://www.shopjaguarsilencers.com/product-page/caf556h-fatty-series-5-56-titanium-silencer11.5oz no mountInconel (Aluminum end cap, they claim it works but idk)4.5"x2.0" diamWere you direct thread anon from earlier today? FWIW the YHM Kurz Ti mount is 1.2oz and adds 0.25" to the overall length of a suppressor. It is legitimately the same weight as MANY direct thread mounts, but gives you 2.5 rotation QD on and off, obviously with a fucking taper lol, and you can run real muzzle devices (brakes and flash hiders).
>>64718491Kevin started chimping out on me in the youtube comments section on the video it was entertaining.
>>64718568He chimped out at ML in his IG post comments, too
The KAC CRS-2 was just released rooftop defense got a few of them, 4 ounces lighter than the original
>>64718575
>>64718566No I'm just a guy in the market for a K 5.56 can during tax season.Tbqh I don't feel like canceling my order if anything is getting shorter its going to be the barrel itself but I prefer sub 10" 300 Blk for AR sbrs...
>>64718617Since you're going direct thread you can get something like a wolf pack armory recessed hub mount to make it even shorter on the gun.
>>64718472this is peak player haters ball attitude. What thermal do you have.
What happened to all the trips?
I bought the SIG cheapy lpvo for $500 but I wish I did a little more research and picked up an eotech vudu instead.Still shooting more accurately that my ACOG though lmao
>>64718758maduro raid
>>64718393sig electro optics are cag approved
Need advice on light switches/remotes, I always thought they were kind of gay but I figured I should have one night gun. >>64718758Thread has been shit for a few months now, just like trudging through a septic tank. never mind anons, not even regular schizoposters even stay anymore. it's that boring.
>>64718220THROW ME TO THE WOLVES AND I'LL COME BACK PREGNANT
>>64718815surefire
>>64718758pastebin iced them
>>64718141My friend had an Axial on his 5.56 16 inch. It sounded fantastic.
>>64718446DRM builds are GAY
>>64718849I already ordered the Polonium KAxial was top choice but too long for my use case.
>>64718815SF M340 Pro bodyUnity Gas Cap USB C tailcapModbutton Lite USB CHRF Ramp or HunchbackPLH V2 Multi Mode HeadYou'll have to piece it together, but IMO that is the best performing setup, and not that much more expensive than other options. Good balance of spill and throw, 18350 so smaller to save weight and size, multi mode head allows for low output for admin tasks if needed, gas cap has constant on if needed, saves weight, very low profile compared to other tailcap options, USB C Modbutton lite no flickering issues, less loss, HRF Ramp or Hunchback good ergos. I'm a fan. Picture related.
>rc2 is still goat>m855 for everything but hunting>If you need a subsonic long gun get a 9mm or .45 pdw>the vast majority of your training should be reacting to contact or defensively holding a structure.>dots are the only optic you will ever need>they should be closed emitter of one model only for all firearms>the majority of your ammo expenditure should be .22 lr>if dont have access to a dynamic range practice airsoft>if you arent fit you arent serious>nv should be a thermal handheld so you dont stumble into hasty ambushes>besides your rifle all your gear should be able to be hidden underneath a windbreaker or stashed in a unobtrusive pack>you should have two range bags>one for just firearms and one for everything else>the one for firearms should have the capability to be shouldered like a back pack in case you have to abandon your vehicle and walk a long distance.
>>64718865You are an idiot if you use tape switches on a fighting rifle
Today I cried hearing about Murica's superiority...... Lets go and take over the world with our AR15s!!! AMERICA IS TRULY GREAT AGAIN
>>64717568no because as a heterosexual I paid $100ish for the OG direct mount CMRstripped off all old oil and used lubeanon's cum for the first time today. One of my rifles went from ejecting at 3 with a carbine buffer to 2 with an H1. Good lube, lubeanon
Anon you wanna go bossing?
>>647188959/10 post I just prefer 77gr. 2 range bags/backpack system is slept on>>64718865the issue here is battery swaps require a tool now, so I stuck with the flat modbutton mount>>64718911long as you have redundancies I don't think it's a huge problem...
>>64719589this rifle could be pretty cool if it wasn't for the chink optics, fake ngal, and retard brace
we definitely need more monolithic autism once those LMT patents expire
>>64718393>>64718534>>64718566incoherent babbling retard
>>64719589>he thinks its about getting the cable cutKILLED IN THE STREETShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfnMJvr1-jw
>>64718815I have tried a lot of different lights and what you actually want is just a Surefire M640DF with the clicky cap. You just have to build the muscle memory of shutting the clicky cap off after turning it on. This seems easy when you're in your basement and that's all that's going on but when shooting it's easy to forget about until you look down while reloading and see that it's still on. Anything you would use a WML for is going to be within 50 yards max anyway so candela maxxing is pointless unless you don't have nods and just want a way to shoot steel at night. For LARPing you want to floodmaxx
>>64719986Wholeheartedly agree. I hate the look of LPVOs but damn they really outperform everything else, especially in regard to thermal integration. Not fair ACOG bros.
>>64719993>I hate the look of LPVOs but damn they really outperform everything else, especially in regard to thermal integration. Not fair ACOG bros.We just talked about this last night in this same thread. The biggest issue is that they take up a lot of rail space. If you are using a 14.5/16" barrel with a full size hand guard that gives you plenty of real estate then sure, but if you are using an 10.3/11.5" barrel then your only real options for variable magnification are red dot magnifier or elcan. My only experience with a thermal was looking through an rh25 for two seconds and being underwhelmed but I would think that both setups have their own pros and cons.
Grindr
>>64719741Marines never fail to impress.Zack I miss u stop doing electrical work for the NSA
>>64719597The irony is that it's airsoft
They're gonna invent a demagnifier in an alpha tarac type device for acogs and other fixed prism scopes. Screenshot this post The m4s on Mars will have acogs
>>64720035Thats why for short guns I think the thermal plus stacked/offset red dot might be the way to go instead of clip on unless you want to end up with something like this
>>64720035does anyone who is serious about using their rifle rely on a 10.5 anymore?and no, simply going out and "touching grass" by dressing up and larping on a flat range doesn't count. putting an ounce of thought into terminal performance out of a 10.3 at any range past 50 meters should be a prerequisite to owning firearms.
>>64720122>how long are we going to have this same discussion
>>64719977I stopped trying to make sense of nonsense
>>64720122probably until we stop seeing retards talk about how they don't need a longer rifle because they've shot their sbr out to 700 and were able to make hits, so obviously that means its just as good
>>64720122I'm getting one for the vibes. And when it's all hills and trees around I'm not shooting any distances
Very pissed how little kino we're getting from a potential jungle warfare coastal op. I hate this gay timeline watching drones fly back to Puerto rico
>>64720122Modern bullets good to 600 meters in 10.3" which is plenty of effective distance for a mid to close range rifle
>>64720146He wants to run venezuela. That will require boots on the ground. Give it time you might get your wish.
>>64720144reasonable take desu>>64720149lmao okay bud
>>64720155>Venezuela becomes the 51st state before PR or DCI think that would be hilarious and make traveling to Brazil very simple I want to believe you anon but I don't think Trump has the balls to do full boots on the ground. As funny as it would be on many levels this isn't going to be the next Iraq/Afghanistan. His administration is far too cynical for anything like that. Maybe, if we're lucky, we'll get PMCs engaging fragments of loyalist military personnel in remote regions which would indeed be based. But ultimately it will fizzle into the same low level conflict that has existed in the Gran Colombia region since Simon Bolivar
>>64720188>Maybe, if we're lucky, we'll get PMCs engaging fragments of loyalist military personnel in remote regions which would indeed be basedThat's what I was implying, not a total occupation like we have over the last 20 years in the middle east. At the very least they're going to secure oil fields.
>>64720199Yeah but the problem is I don't think the loyalist portions of the military could sustain that. The reason Maduro wasn't overthrown or chavez before him is because the middle and upper class of Venezuelans don't care if it's Americans or Russians or Chinese people buying their oil. Petrodollars are petrodollarsRealistically this changes very little for the economic structure of the country and thus it's power structure. So I too hold out hope, but the people that actually supported maduro were poor laborers, the military like in many Latin American countries is a separate political entity to the lower class. I'm being pessimistic because I don't want to get my hopes up. Every happening feels less spectacular and less pivotal than the last
>>64720119I wouldn’t use a pressure pad in the first place and I run my magnifier all the way back so I’d just move my red dot further back and along with it the clip-on to free up handguard space.>>64720122>putting an ounce of thought into terminal performance out of a 10.3 at any range past 50 meters should be a prerequisite to owning firearms.>the difference between 5.56 being up to 50 meters and up to 500 meters is 1.2” of barrel length Mk18 haters have to be some of the most insufferably and incurably retarded people in this space
>>64720245okay, so what ammunition do you use out of your mk18 that is effective out to 600? Have you looked up the mechanism the projectile uses to ensure proper terminal performance, the velocity required to achieve that mechanism, and then chronographed that loading out of your mk18 to see the range at which you can reliably achieve that terminal performance? Go ahead, I'll wait.for the record, no I don't give a shit about 11.5 either, that is ass as well.
>>64720269Welp I guess that the guys on the receiving end of 600m mk18 fire better hope that >the only incoming fire they receive is from mk18s that will just bounce off them like hail pellets >no one shooting at them gets any closer
>>64720269I can't see shit at 600m, checkmate
>>64720298KITS
>>64720269Nta but yes to all those questions 69gr tmk, 77gr otm in nas3 mv around 2600 fps. M855A1 also pretty good too. Gold dots fine. Everything else doesn't matter as long as bullets are making contact
>>64720325do the math at how far those rounds travel before they are below the performance threshold for achieving their primary wounding mechanism. It's simple physics. If all you care about is poking holes or ringing steel, sure it doesn't matter as long as the rounds are making contact.
>>64720364Textbook aspergers
>>64720364>achieving their primary wounding mechanismI did and they do
>>64720405to what range
>>64717361saving this pic cuz of the good boys:3
>>64720364Primary wounding mechanism is for soldiers fighting soldiers that all have IFAKs and TQs. Getting shot sucks and it does impact your ability to concentrate.
>>64718343Weird, I've actually been looking into the CV25 and it looks like a very compelling clip on with the Off-Duty discount. RH25 v2 is generally what people have been recommending, but if you can get over it being Sig, the CV25 seems like a good option. Also,>barrel length autismBoth love and hate to see it. giddy made a chart comparing his 10.3 to 14.5. Wasn't extremely comprehensive but showed a few different rounds and their frag/expansion threshold.
>>64720431>>64720149
>Get shot in the thigh>Lol its 50 meters past the maximum effectiveness I shrug it off and casually walk up to the enemy and rape him>Get shot in the thigh>God personally smites me from existence because Im in the magical number zone
>take incoming fire>calculate the precise velocity >ha ha, it’s from a mk18 that’s obviously beyond 50 meters away, I think to myself while making a smug grin >do nothing other than continue to laugh as the shots bounce off my double weight cotton blend Forward Observations tshirt
>>64720484Cv25 is probably my least favorite unit that ive tried in 2025 not counting the gimmick shit like the fp13
>>64720630>>64720525Kek
>>64720692What did you not like about it? Good to have data points past spec sheets, also what did you compare it to?
>>64718061300 is dead>>64718039Cons:Mid mountingLarger than RH25RH25 is getting really close to 3k for a used one and thats pretty good>>64718343Cons:PolymerSigshitInferior image to the RH25v2Sigshit appsFriend got one for selling enough p320s to normies at a guncounter. But why over an RH25?>>64718895>22lr>Airsoft>Range bags as a bugout bagA swing and a miss
>>64718895Where do you expect to be driving this POS car that a tow truck couldn’t get to it?
>>6472063077gr can be caught in the hand at 600 yds. Not that it matters because the WHO ZOG giganigga cyborg kill team already shotspotted and confirmed via thermal satellite your exact coordinates while xir onboard Pentium core 6 gorillion laser range finder/LPVO/fire control system/waffle maker directs a slug of tungsten into your brain at 4,000 FPS
>>64720909Pricewise, with the mil discount, it's a pretty significant gap between the sig and the rh25v2 (2700 vs best I can find 4000 second hand v2)
>>64719589>I just prefer 77gr.Its a much more effective round but I have come to realize training with what you shoot is more important than terminal effectiveness.>>64720909>A swing and a missAlot of people don't have access to the same facilities as you do or have the resources to shoot a high volume of centerfire ammo. For movement, .22lr works fine. Being able to take your firearms with you in the advent of an unforeseen situation is not a "bugout bag".>>64720943There multiple assumptions in your post, can you spot them? Never leave firearms in a vehicle. If you must, remove critical components and take them with you.
>>64719589>battery swaps require a tool nowWut? The setup I described does not require a tool for battery swaps. >>64719980What is a light ND cap for $300What is discipline for $200>>64719986>M640DFThose have been having been issues, plus unnecessary weight and bulk. >>6472012210.5" is actually even more valid than it was ~5-10 years ago because of hotter ammo and developments in powder and cases. See M855A1, or the NAS3 stuff. >>64720245>the difference between 5.56 being up to 50 meters and up to 500 meters is 1.2” of barrel length The rhetorical point I think you're trying to make here is incorrect. >>64720364This argument had to do with M193, 10.3" and 11.5" barrels and was relevant 5-10 years ago when M193 was much more the standard, and it wasn't about obtaining M193 wounding mechanisms at 600m vs 50m, it was about obtaining M193 wounding mechanisms at 50-100m vs not at all (in the 10.3" case). >>64720484>Sig good optionPlease don't>giddyHe never got enough credit. >>64720909>300 is deadWrong, Nietzsche
I feel like I have completed stagnated with shootingwant nods, but have no property to larp on or friends who have nods (in OK so no BLM land)make a lot of money and have like $800k saved but scared to buy 40 acres in eastern OKshooting at flat range is boring, dont want to just buy stupid shit i dont need like sig trousersnake .375 caliber smg beeboop gun. the extent of my shooting is 50 yards at an outdoor bay or just blasting my g19 at an indoor range and its unfulfilling. thanks for reading my blogpost
>>64721081>Please don'tOnly thermal on the market with a lifetime warranty.
>>64721082I feel like my whole life completely stagnated
>>64721028But it does put you firmly in the camp of a used v1 which is going to have superior mounting, ergos and no sigshit.>>64721081>What is a light ND cap for $300A terrible deal>>64721082Go take some classes.
>>64720364>performance thresholdThe OPFOR for anyone reading this is a small group of violent opportunists who have taken advantage of a temporary lack of communication and police response time to commit a home invasion or carjacking. Fent addicts who ran out of gas, Mountain Dew and cash; who need to score two counties away.
>>64720909>300 is deadme when I'm biased
>>64721151Reminds me of some traumatizing family happenings that befell my uncle when he was a kid
>>64721137Have you ever taken anything bigger than a deer.
>>64720807I typed out a huge post and it got deleted, twice ffs. I work for a company that tests thermal sensors so i get to try and compare a lot of different units because we are basically silent partners with another newish company in the thermal game. I have connections with people from armasight to tory pines. Pretty much most major players except pulsar because the 2 daughters who now own the company somewhat recently dont know what their doing or give a fuck. We also dont have a relationship with sig but we still got our hands on the cv25 and a couple of the echos. Hands down the cheapest feeling units, the images are worse than most competitors besides maybe some shitty pix units that come to mind. I hate wifi bluetooth shit on thermals but the sig app blows and steals your data. I know this is some my dad works at nintendo shit but im already probably breaching my nda
>>64721210>I hate wifi bluetooth shit on thermals but the sig app blows and steals your data.Factual statement
>>64721210Since you're in the know, do you think now is the time to wait? Are there any hidden gems currently available that are justifiable purchases?Is it accurate to say we're in a weird stopgap era or nah?
>>64721210Any experience with the DNT hydra?
>>64721082>buy 40 acres in eastern OKyou should do this one, I'd totally get nods if I knew a dude with a 40 acre larp woods. Moving to north-east my self. don't have a giant pile of cash so probably looking at a modest 5 acre plot.
>>64721166Almost every year a hurricane wipes out at least one coastal city where I live. Sometimes multiple times a year. No power, water or cellular. Many roads impassable. Sometimes for weeks. There has been no increase in cannibalism reports and the Ayatollah of Rockinrola has yet to surface. Fent junkies are a fairly new invasive species. Way more dangerous.
>>64721210When i say the image blows im mainly talking about contrast too. Looks fine just staring at a treeline but hogs/deer kinda blurr right in in laymans terms. The nucs are also weird, its not uncommon for units that you just turned on to nuc often but you will be 20min in and it will just start nucing like crazy out of nowhere for no apparent reason. One time it was so bad i powered down the unit for 5 minutes and restarted it to get it functioning properly. Tldr its a cheap feeling unit with weird quirks even for a thermal and the app is awful. 4mr is a warhammer shill his videos are ads
>>64721234>>64721236Yes to both but cant answer for another hour, trip is temp
>>64721261>>64721210Good info, thanks for sharing. Seems like Sig strikes again
>>64721272I will await for elaboration
>>64721137is spuhr A2 approved - I am $$$ and don't care about cost
>>64721256kek none of that is related to what I was mentioning my uncle just got kidnapped for ransom money back in the day
>>64721272So is the DNT hydra any good? The price is almost too good to be true. Whats your favorite lower end priced 640?
>>64721082Do competitions. Go to courses. Plan trips. Hit the gym. Go see Avatar. Life is dope dude, come now. >>64721103>Warranty posting on a weapons forumAh yes, my seatbelt and brakes have a warranty! So glad this fire extinguisher has a warranty! The parachute comes with a warranty! Warranty posting is some of the most heinously stupid posting we ever see. >>64721137>A terrible dealWas looking at 100 concepts cap which is 100 dollars divided by 2 and decided to just do something else. >>64721210>>64721214All the fucking video recording shit is SO fucking lame and gay. >>64721236No experience, but I'm pretty confident based off of reviews that it is still the best value if you want to buy right now.
starting to believe in the COG again
>>64721288FTC is a superior solution>>64721297>Go see Avatar.Wife watched it for the first time other day.>Video recordingI dont even hate on thatI hate on the fact that chinks have no mental model for design of firearms accessories. They can bootleg anything they want but if you hand a chink a scope they'd probably try to look through it sideways. As such anything they have any touch in is always ergonomically crippled and frustrates users. Shit like the RH25 interface being tied to the onboard gyroscope is retarded. Terrible menu options. Terrible design as a whole.Hitting the 3 gorges dam and every DMLS suppressor mfg with a copy of as little design as possible.>>64721303Elcan 416 is so drip you dont even know.
>>64721303As you should
>>64721297What a stupid post especially when it comes to an electronic that costs around 4k. Shit breaks. Why would I want to risk having a dead thermal with no options for repair? Its not like a pvs14 where I can send it to any small shop to be repaired.
>>64721312>WifeLmao
>>64721312>Elcan 416 is so drip you dont even know.even with an SMR? Want one cause it's thinner I know it doesn't save weight
>>64721312>""""""""""""""wife""""""""""""""
>>64721312>Wifewhat's his name again
Sig tango 4xt pros were used on the maduro raid
>>64721323>SMRKeep it quad or rebuild an A5SMR a shit>>64721369Sig romeo RS Clear was used(Not the pro variant)
bb's wife has huge knockers yours has a penis
>>64721303>Fixed 4x magMy understanding is that this is going to limit your COTI scan utility. >>64721312>no mental model>terrible design>ergonomically crippledUnironically thousands of years of Confucian cultural spiritualism and a sort of obsession with this intermediate layer of abstraction (neither truly enlightened and inaccessible like western theology, but also solidly disconnected from hard objective reality) I think is to blame. >AvatarIt is okay to have fun. >>64721313>Griffin can>Not a BFG VickersEw. Other than that, no terrible I guess. >>64721315>dead thermal>shit breaksPost all evidence that thermals seem to be just randomly up and shitting the bed?>>64721323Been loving my Elcan with RMR top dot. Want a COTI bad for it. Not going to lie main reason I haven't bought a DNT Hydra (hail) HS635 is because it would be so uggo in front of Elcan. What I want is an AN PAS 23 (SKEET IR type housing) COTI. Super lightweight, aesthetic. The issue is that AN PAS 23 are generally (1) not recoil hardened, (2) weapon mount hardware sorta a mixed bag, and (3) optical alignment for COTI use is a problem. A 640 SKEETIR is like $8000-$15,000 depending. A 320 SKEETIR is maybe $3-$4k but I'm not even sure if they can be optically aligned because so little documentation and information. I'm sorta hoping that a MTM/WTM AN PAS 23 type body mil surp product improved 640 res unit might float around that I can snag for $2-$3k, that can actually be optically aligned.
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>>64721393>Ew.They both work great, whats the issue?
>>64721398The issue is he has brain damage just ignore it.
>>64721312>wife
>>64721313We must secure the existence of our COGs and a future for LaRue quadrails
>>64721386I was there I would know
>>64721386I was gonna keep the T2+G33 on it with an SMR just for the looks since the 11.5 is on the way, still deciding>>64721393I'm not gonna sugarcoat it I am probably never going to buy thermals/COTI in the near future, let alone for the 416. 11.5 maybe, but that depends.
>>64721395what if instead of terry black's it was chuck sneed's barbeque ha
>>64721393COTI attaches to your nodsClip-on thermal sights attach to your rifle to augment your day opticThey are distinct terms, despite seeming like they are the same.
>>64721393Plenty of failed thermals on the internet when you look. You're acting like having something that can be warrantied is a bad thing. This isn't like a SCAR that you can just fix it yourself or send it to a gunsmith it's an electronic.
>>64721082Are there any private ranges with further distances?
>>64721103>its sigshit so you'll be forced to use the warrantyI have beat the everliving fuck out of this rh25 for 3 years without issue (besides retarded chink design choices). Get a sac lens for both ends and don't make a habit of throwing it at trees
>>64721398>whats the issueIf you're being genuine, I urge you to inspect Griffin's product offerings in totality. All of it. They copy other companies, unabashedly, to a degree that is offensive and completely immoral. They straight up steal designs. Mk2 lower they stole from ADM, charging handles, suppressors, and muzzle devices they stole from KAC. They're selling cheap shit rebranded chinese optics now too, trying to get the hecking electrooptics shekels, and them blatantly copying SPUHR optic mounts is just the most recent instance of what has been a LONG line of their bullshit. >work greatSlingster is eh af. The metal spring loaded clamp hardware is a noise/wear/snag liability and super uncomfortable. Adjustment was poor when I fucked with one once, long long ago. >>64721403I actually like this one sorta. Old modlite boddy uggo af. You should swap to a gas cap setup and ditch the hot button for weight, cost, power output, flicker and usability gains. How is the CAT can? Which one is that?>>64721414>near futureI really really want to go do a long multi day hog hunt with the primary intention being to evaluate a thermal setup, but mainly to try to get a TON of data/experience on terminal effect for various calibers and rounds. >>64721434>COTI attaches to your nodsWhat?My understanding is that the term "COTI" refers to a thermal optic which is clipped on to the weapon. A thermal which attaches to nods I would generally refer to using the word "fusion" or "fused" somewhere in there, distinct from a helmet mounted thermal monocular.
>>64721451Can you still find those pfalcons for cheap?
>>64721453Your understanding is wrong. Google it.
>>64721297>Avatardon't do this it'll just make you want an exotic goth guerilla warfare cat gf
>>64721453>Mk2 lower they stole from ADMThanks for revealing you don't know anything
>>64721393>Confucian cultural spiritualismThey just have no idea what to do with it. Like handing the whiteman chopsticks with no cultural introduction into what one does with them. And nobody in china is working to change that because ????When your cover as a PLA spy is blown you should go make sure they know how to make better thermals>The issue isThat the core, post processing and mount are massively obsolete ? Like the thing is 20 years old at this point????Yeah thats fair!>Im hoping that the monkey finishes typing shakesphere any day nowBold but unbecoming>>64721414Meh>>64721451This desu, the RH25 is extremely rugged. Ive seen them beat to the point they have no finish left and they work fine.>>64721453Fusion = Thermal is built into the i2 unit
>>64721453WB, noticably less gas in my face than with my RC2 mini, which is good for me as lefty.Gas cap with modbutton you mean? I thought >>64718911 modbutton would get me killed?
TA02 so ugly damn
>>64721485>Mehreasonable
>>64721491Those are fighting words.
>wife
>>64721491Factual, AA batteries a shit>>64721498I just dont think unity risers look good on a 416, the proportionality of it somewhat askew.And FTS G33 annoying. I enjoyed the elcan on mine since the added receiver height brought it up a little bit more.
>>64721439I'm not saying it is a bad thing. I'm saying it is a useless thing and ought not motivate anyone's purchase or gear acquisition in this space, the same way that a warranty ought not motivate anyone's choices when it comes to other life saving/taking equipment like car brakes, seatbelts, fire extinguishers, parachutes etc etc. If the piece of kit has such a high failure rate that the warranty is like an economically valuable thing, then you need to reassess your own internal reasoning about this entire exercise and find a final solution for the cognitive dissonance; that piece of kit shouldn't even be considered in the first place. >>64721451>the dust>the rounded edges and corners of the ranger wrapComfy image with SOVLThis is what I was challenging anon to do. I've never heard of an RH25 just like up and shitting the bed. >>64721468I've been seeing COTI used to refer to clip on optics for use in conjunction with a daytime optic on the weapon for a while now. If that type of device isn't called a COTI, what do you call it?>>64721473Thanks for revealing you swallowed the disinfo slop that Griffin peddled about having developed the IP 8-10 years ago, but never having used it until now, and claiming that it was actually ADM that stole it from them!! Thanks for revealing you have little to no pattern recognition or capacity for critical thinking, because it certainly couldn't be the company that has been copying other people's shit for decades now just continueing to do more of the same, it must be that actually ADM is the copycat! Not like those that are guilty of something would never stoop so low as to accuse others of their crime to hide their culpability.DummyGriffin sucks
Are their CHF uppers even worth it?Doing baby's first build, I don't need top of the line, but I don't want to buy complete dog shit either.QC issues? Experiences you guys had? Am I better with something else?
>>64721528Some of the best money can buy.
>>64721528Illegal immigrant sweat shop trash that barely worksId unironically rather have a PSA shit tier rifle than anything BCA touched.
>>64721507I don't mind it but it could definitely look better. I'm just trying to save costs since I want extra magnification on the 11.5 as basically my GPR and the 416 being the designated shorty.
>>64721453>wugoid suggesting modbutton over hot buttonReally, right in front of my malkoff light heads?>>64721466That one is for sale with some custom goodies for 3.1. The pfalcon steamboat still exists but it takes a while.
>>64721453So it should be a good design and work then? Great. You should love Dual Lok, no chance it comes loose and its not copying anything
>>64721511roast my shit
>>647215562022 ass build ong
>>64721556One of the best rifles ITT>>64721542LT660 the 416 , drop the mag from it entirely or FTS itWhat is optic plan on the 11.5?
>>64721565hmm I will consider>11.5much to wuggys dismay it is still an LPVO w/ stacked dot. leaning towards razor gen II due to decent magnification for a good price +glass, but still considering ATACR or others
>>64721485>>64721485>nobody in china is working to change that becauseIMO Chinese have a weird conception of self/ego (individual and of the entire culture/people as well) that prevents effective self assessment, and it is precisely due to the same weird meta abstraction reality view that is causing the issues in the first place. Effective self evaluation requires a distinction between self in the objective literal sense and a truly metaphysical disconnected sense. Chinese (individuals and culture) only "see themselves" (they don't actually see self at all) in this single dimensional weird layer of abstraction where all that is will always be, with no feedback or growth or dynamics. I think we can sorta see this reality view at work in a couple things. (1) Communism like sorta works there, it is weird. (2) They have been building this massive massive military and pursuing so many avenues of military growth, and yet don't ever actually use it or do anything with it. It just 'exists'. >>64721485>built inOverlay doesn't count as fusion?>>64721486Ya replace the SF DS00 cap and Unity Hot button (both aluminum, heavy, asspensive, poor plug connection, poor form factor for tailcap and plug and wire jutting rearwards) for a Gascap USB C and Modbutton Lite USB C with an HRF ramp or Hunchback. Will be lighter, slicker, and cheaper. Pics incoming. I used to have a Hot Button. Heavy. Expensive. Annoyingly long plug form factor. I've got probably 3500-4000 rounds now under the gascap USB C and Modbutton, and have had zero issues, flickering, drain, coming loose, anything. Small upgrade, but if you're looking to consooome. >>64721507That rail aesthetic. IMO that build never got enough attention. >>64721528BCA is bad do not buy BCA>>64721547Malkoff output sorta meh. I appreciate that they're lower profile head housings, but I think that durability might suffer. >modbutton over hotbuttonScale pics incoming
>>64718743>What thermal do you have.why do all of you retards fall back to this cope when you get called out for buying junk thermals. pony up some real cash and shut the fuck up about 25mm 384hz garbage dude, you'll thank me later.
>>64721578>Razor gen 2Nah dawg, the hung wire reticle is going to fail and suck ass.Go buy a vudu with a proper etched reticle if you are balling on a budget, especially if youre stacking a dot who cares about brightmaxxing that hung wire ret?>>64721581>OverlayJust call them both COTI as COTS is retarded and spelling out "Clip-on thermal sight" is even more retarded.>Mounted a COTS COTS on my COTS rifleLunacy>Modbutton liteIts 2026 and you're still incapable of constant on?Terrible>>64721582No bro trust me this 13mm micro sight is use-ACK>384hzbased
>>64721556>Long heavy shitty expensive SF can>LT660 in 2026, too low for magnifier or comfy NVG passive use>full size light>No ambi selectorPine needles be comfy though>>64721578>LPVOReee >Razor, ATACRJesus fuck you're going to spend MONEY on it fucking hellDude you yourself are saying you're going to stack a dot. What purpose does the 1x on the LPVO serve if you have a top dot? Does a 1x thermal scan really benefit you over a 2x thermal scan? Zoom ratio on variable magnification optics set SO many other optical performance parameters including eye box volume, aberrations, field of view. A 1-6x has the same zoom ratio as a 2-12x, and so a lot of those optical performance metrics will be the same. Now what is more useful, 12x vs 6x top end, or 1x vs 2x thermal scan? The 1x daytime is essentially worthless because you have the top dot. The 1x nighttime is worthless in front of NVG, and the 1x thermal for actual target prosecution is IMO slower and worse than the top dot passive after detection has been done at 2x. The biggest issue here is that the MPVO market is and has been lackin HARD for a while because chuds keep buying fuggin LPVOs... because chuds see that there aren't any good/nice options in the MPVO segment, which just feeds the problem. Re.
>>64721582There is nothing wrong with a 384.
>>64721629384 is gay outside of tiny sensors in a fusion application
>>64721623>LT660 too low for magnifierYou did what?>1x thermal for actual target prosecution is IMO slower and worse than the top dot passive after detection has been done at 2x.Bad post. Scanning to pickup at 1x and then cranking to 8x and shooting them in their eyebrows will always be superior to switching your frame of reference to a dot.>But the speed!!!You just spent howeverlong scanning on the thermal to find them in the first place, so just prosecute with what youre in. The stacked dot is for snap shots, movers , close and when the thermal clutter is too high/blown out by ambient.
>the two most annoying people you know are talking loud because they want the tranny to notice them
>>64721538How did you get that 416D marked lower?
>>64721639Nah it's just the minimal acceptable thermal. Perfectly usable in most cases.
>>64721665Its a machinegun
>>64721666640s are so cheap there is zero reason to use 384 outside special applicationsThe jump in fidelity is huge
>>64721556forgot to say solid rifle anon>>64721609>vudushit fair enough>>64721623For what reason on this earth would I put a 12x on an 11.5. Listen, I want an LPVO for the extended magnification (within reason) to be able to push the 11.5 as far as it can go, a stacked dot because it's good for target transition and passive aiming with nvg's (which will be the next project), and because I think it looks nice imo
Saiga Marine might be getting out today. When he went in, the AR-15 meta was KeyMod, an Aimpont with folding sights, a WML, sling, maybe an angled foregrip. I don't think factory Block II uppers were available at a reasonable price yet in 2015?PSA: when taking the witness stand during a self defense trial in a "duty to retreat" state, do not make statements contradictory to the facts or evidence!
>>64721403Oh shit I didn't know larue made a QD quad mount, that's what I've been looking fo->150 dollarsAIEEEE
>>64721676True if I were buying a thermal today however the 384s I bought around 5 years ago are still putting down feral hogs just fine.
>>64721061>there are multiple assumptions in your post says guy who just wrote out post containing dozens of assumptions
>>64721451I've found a sac lens for my v2 but man, all this shit costs so much money. 300 dollars and then whatever import fees from leafistan.
>>64721687>Saiga marine is lanceYeah Scarsella, a well known hispanic last nameFucking newfag kys>>64721061Id rather see you shooting blanks than doing anything with 22lr >Its not a bugout bag>You just might need to be able to abandon your vehicle while on your way to or from the rangeListen man, I drive a landrover and even I think that you're being absurd.>>64721694>Sac lens thermalDumb time
>>64721393What goes through your mind when you write out one of these mass reply text walls?
>>64721703>Sac lens thermalYes.
>>64721297Wuggy please elaborate on this build. Is it any good? Its fascinating to me>>64721395cool VCOG, do you like it? >>64721556>to scared to lay rifle on the ground so he found the one root to lay the rifle onneed I say more?
>>64721708What went through your mind when you typed out this post? You already know the answer.
>>64721708>What goes through wgws's headNanocarbon tubes from the vaccine>>64721709Not worth the massive drop in fidelity, even when made out of the correct materials.
>>64721403Alright now it's getting out of hand anon
>>64721640>too low for magnifierFlip to center or nothing>switching to dotThis is my fault for formatting my argument as I did. My argument should have been:The 1x thermal for actual target prosecution is truly no better nor worse in most cases than the 2x for target prosecution, and in the cases that it is better (extreme close range), you would be perfectly served by the top red dot (snap shots, close etc as you said). >>64721684>For what reason on this earth would I put a 12x on an 11.5. Listen, I want an LPVO for the extended magnification (within reason) to be able to push the 11.5 as far as it can goOkay boom we're on the actual intellectual assumptions at work here. You're working with the assumption, understandably given a lot of things, that 12x isn't useful on an 11.5", that extended magnification's reasonable limit is some value LESS than the top end of most MPVO. I'm confident this is the incorrect assumption at the heart of your mistaken reasoning to get a LPVO. Also please please don't take my tone as condescending this is just how I talk/argue/rhetoric. Consider the possibility that a 12x, or hell even a 20x actually IS useful on a 11.5" gun. Whether it be for PID, long range daytime detection, vastly improved precision on the POA. Consider new ammunition developments like NAS3 which extend the effective (terminal ballistics) range of our platforms by unironically 150-300m depending.. Consider calibers like 300blk that can deliver truly useful terminally effective energy at 600yds out of 9" barrels... These are all reasons to put a 12x, or as I said, 20x on a shorter gun. And if all you lose is the 1x... the 1x that I'm arguing is useless anyway... Does that make sense? I ask that genuinely. >>64721687Damn time flies. >>64721708>what is going through your mind when you writeThe things I'm writing, retard.
>>64721703>approved of saiga marine's actionscringe
>>64721692>opinions and observations are now assumptions.>several become dozens>there will always be a tow truck>the vehicle will always be recoverable>there was always be a cellular coverage>you will always have time>i am smart
>>64721739>Flip to center or nothingmmm true>My argument should have been:The 1x thermal for actual target prosecution is truly no better nor worse in most cases than the 2x for target prosecutionIndeed that is a better argument. But id still like to maximize the FOV of any given thermal and nobody makes a like 2-8x optic. The 1x doesnt add any weight, bulk or complexity to the system so be chilling>MPVOMarket honestly being eclipsed by higher magnification ratios like the 8x and 10x we are seeing now. Why would I ever take a 2-10 when I can have a very real 2.5-20 or some hypothetical 2-16 in the same package?>300blk at 600ydMe out here with my sextant and taccom prism to do anything remotely close to that>20x on an 11.5Not enough rail space to fit enablers + coti on these compact setups. So you make the rail longer, so you make the barrel longer.>>64721760>Saigamarines actionsFleeing to venzeula and avoiding all charges?
>>64721770for some reason a lot of the metas in arg revolve around not thinking about contingencies because they shrimply don't happen. Yet this entire hobby is built around preparing for increasingly unlikely scenarios. Makes u think
>>64721780>Fleeing to venzeula and avoiding all chargesYou're not saying no
Having to switch out my acog for an elcan when I get a thermal is gonna suck. I love how light and handy this rifle is
>>64721760SM wasn't involved in the incident what do you mean?
>>64721694I built one from chyna, was about $90 for materials. A bit of resolution loss but worth protecting the lensIt doesn't scratch as easily as plastic, but I've had a scare and it's still cheaper from an opportunity cost perspective than sending it back to the bugmen for repair>i have STLs for v1/2 sac lens holder for both ends>>64721703>not protecting your investmentwomp womp>>64721722>resolution lossJust use the right one, lol
>>64721739>Does that make sense? I ask that genuinely.I understand what you're saying, I should include some aspects of my mindset. I don't live in a location where I would be seeing far enough away to truly utilize 12x or greater on the 11.5 IF I needed to actually do so, at least imo. On the off chance I need to go somewhere where longer sight ranges are necessary, the MK12 is the go-to. The curse of the matter is I don't have enough fucking photos to justify this so it sounds like cope. The other totally logical argument is that an LPVO looks better on a 11.5 than an MPVO unless it's the OG SPR scope/nxs 2.5x10 that was limited, not the standard model
>>64721684For real dawg consider like the functional, actionable capabilities that the US military has (see Maduro unironically) thanks to the incredible optical technology which allows crystal clear images of mo fuggin loicense (TV) plates to be read from fucking satellites in space (she just needs some). I say this with pride as I know physicists personally who work in this field. Being able to see shit from far far away is good. If you can do so, without any downsides or sacrifices (I'm arguing that losing the 1x has no downside nor sacrifice comparatively), then you ought to!Consider the 1-8x Razor, zoom ratio of 8x. Now consider the the 2.5-20x Nightforce. Same zoom ratio, 8x. These optics have very comparable optical performance at the low, middle, and high end of their optical range. Yes yes I know I get it, MPVO sorta still look weird to our eyes on short guns. But that is just an impression, just subjective bias. The 2.5-20x is massively more capable than the 1-8x, with little to no downside!>>64721718You're the first to ask, which really means something. I'm trying to build an LR300 looking thing using a LAW Tactical ARIC, in 300blk, also using a W.A.R. adjustable gas upper receiver so that the setup can be quickly switched between two different gas settings for subs vs supers to solve the recoil impulse vs reliability problem that 300blk ARs have. I'm honestly super excited and really enjoying the build process. I used a loaner upper to just test the LAW ARIC on 300blk first. Good news, with the right ammo, can, and gas tuning, I've got 315 rounds of flawless function, 135rnds of which were subs. Decent recoil impulse too. Waiting on parts now for the "LR300" upper. Apex Gator rail, cheap copy of the YHM Tri rail. Going to fab up a functional heat shield. I really wish someone made a nice chrome lined 1:6 300blk barrel, but I haven't seen anything like that. PWS does make 1:6 300blk guns, but they QPQ (QQ) nitride their barrels.
>>64721825I tried something with a DFA MCS setup so I had no need to ask I knew what you were doing and wasn't curious.
>>64721806>InvestmentIts a piece of equipment. Not a speculative investment im looking to 5x on.You dont have sac lenses on your day optics because the degrade the image. The same is true of your thermal.>ResolutionI very specifically used the term "fidelity"Stacking N+1 Germanium lenses infront of your existing lens stack degrades the image quality. Not the image resolution. This is weird tape on brass deflector tier behavior.
>>64721835>quality. Not the image resolution.What's the effective difference when we're talking about human eyes
>>64721835Then why do you call Kacshit investment grade or whatever?
>>64721825Who sells that LR300 grip?
>>64721825>wuggy will do all this bullshit to make 300blk work when it's been solved for like a decade>>64721835I do have sac lenses on my day optic tho. They save it from bullshit like sticks, debris etc from shitting up the lenses when I actually want to use it. The cost of a sac lens is nothing compared to how triggered I get when glass gets scratchedWith the right lens your looking at 5-10% difference. Way less than the quality jump between the v1 and v2 optics improvement
Pastebin recently an heroed unfortunately.
>>64721859no... It canmot be
>>64721780>Maximize FOVI agree, which is why I'm arguing that barring housing/tube dimension limitations, FOV performance is mainly set by the zoom ratio, so we might as well obtain additional top end "for free". >2-8x opticThis would be swell especially in a yuge (xbox) 34mm tube but then cost goes up because making lenses is still a technology thing. >the 1x doesn't addYou're right, it detracts from optical performance for fixed other parameters. >Why would I ever take a 2-10 when I can have a very real 2.5-20 or some hypothetical 2-16Ah you and I are meaning something different when we say MPVO. For me an MPVO is anything that starts at 2x-3.5x power basically. It could go to 35x mag top end, and I would still call it MPVO. But yeah, I agree, why would you take a 2-10 when the 2.5-20 or 2-16 gets you more top end. The only reason would be for more FOV or better optical performance. Similarly though, why would you take a 1-5x when you could have a 2-10x with roughly the same optical performance (magnification normalized). >Me out here with my sextant and taccom prismLRF solves the deterministic problem entirely. Yes more lag time for higher arching trajectory, but better BC from heavier bullets offsets this. I did my homework (that you assigned). >Not enough rail spaceOkay fine gib 2-16x then>>64721782Elaborate >>64721800The weight is towards the rear, and the the weight arguably helps with stability under auto etc etc. >>64721813>locationAh you got me there, I also was making an assumption mistake. I'm in New Mexico. Flat, brown, LONG sight lines. >not enough fucking photosI want a Sony A7 so bad. >LPVO looks betterYa I get it. I'm personally embracing the oddly futuristic aesthetic of a like scope scope on a short gun. >>64721834>DFA MCSPoor length savings while being unfortunately ugly and expensive meh
>>64721862He's in the AZ obituaries I'm kinda sad over it.
>>64721863>Elaborateon what? Pretty self explanatory unless you need examples>>64721863Arguably is the right word because I've never shot my HBAR AR and been like "woweee it's so much easier to control." It's 5.56 it's not exactly hard to control in the first place
>>64721863>LRF solves the deterministic problem entirely.Lrf is kinda retarded especially for near peer contact. Alpha tarac exists for a reason
>>64721703>BP RangerThey were both there and your quip changes nothings about how his self defense case failed. Once again, you’ve demonstrated no insight on matters with actual stakes beyond your LARP>>64721739Unfortunately, the clock is ticking!
>>64721863>Flat, brown, LONG sight lines.yeah nah son we got some good sightlines but they ain't worth getting shot at over and they aren't near me>I want a Sony A7 so badmy samsung does good enough, but an actual camera would be nice in general. I have a good few days off I can probably take some decent updated photos until I can go shooting.If/when they make MPVO's lighter and better looking on shorty's then sure, but as of now LPVO is, unfortunately, the go-to for higher magnification.
>>64721854Youre not checking a stick with your recessed lens on your optic to a point it does anything. Optics are so fragile in every other dimension, the lens is probably the strongest part of the optic itself. Once again this is tape on brass deflector tier shit.>>64721885>Cant even name parties involvedYeah maybe you need to do some more reading first.
>>64721901Why did they have to make the stock so fucking ugly
>>64721835>InvestmentI posted some shit in a Facebook Corvette group the other day shitting on boomers for "investing" in cars and I got a disturbing amount of bot responses. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, after all keeping boomers "investing" the cars is like a proverbial quarter in the bucket. Equally likely though is that you send out 10x decoy bots to just have inane conversations on meaningless topics (while earning that quarter) for every one truly malicious bot. >>64721851I 3d binted it. Seems stronk enough. >>64721854>solved for a decadeHow many positions is your adjuster, and how easy is it to get to? Would you feel safe/confident making the adjustment under fire unironically? Have you seen the W.A.R. adjuster? Also did you look at those 238-242 grain subs I linked? What do you make of the 1:5 requirement? >>64721870>unless you need examplesI'm am indeed asking for examples >>64721870>Arguably is the right word because I've never shot my HBAR AR and been like "woweee it's so much easier to control." It's 5.56 it's not exactly hard to control in the first placeLol that is because you're still shooting that HBAR at 950rpm >>64721876Yeah those are neat, but still not a precision solution by any stretch. >>64721891>if/when they make the MPVO's lighter and better looking... but as of now LPVO it isREEE this is why the problem persists because everyone (you included) is still buying LPVOs.
>>64721906and the handguard
>>64721907>because everyone (you included) is still buying LPVOsIt's because they work and are cheap(er), I hate to say it but until Delta or whoever are caught on camera rocking an MPVO on a shorty it ain't catching on
>>64721907>950rpmnah the HBAR is around 750-900 so right on the money. 300 blackout and urgi upper around 650 with A2Dissy midlength overgassed PSA upper around 650. Urgi upper with strela, 10.5" uppers usually around 900-1000
Wuggy is a Pew Science™ member I can feel it.
>>64721913no professional is putting an mpvo on a shorty because that is a completely retarded idea. Ther scope caps probably won't even clear the LAM.
>>64721901Pls explain how my first ELCAN has the scratches then?Sac lens is free real estate and you clearly haven't larperated in enough interesting conditions to come to the correct conclusion>on god I have to flip open this see through cover to have full fidelity, it's the end of the world>>64721907I'm going to order some next time I get an itch to make more blackout, but that's far into the future after I finish playing with 8.6. With that heavy of a projectile a faster spin is probably helpful but your (probably) killing super capability, I'd be curious to see if 120tactx holds up at the faster spin>adjustmentHe'll cut a bigger access point and provide a dial with deeper cuts if requested. I usually just use a piece of brass if I've got gloves onIt'll eventually carbon up after a case or so of suppressor use so you can't use a finger nail. I may machine the deeper cuts into my selector next time I take it apart for a deep clean
>>64721234Depends what you want, i am honestly impressed by the lt1000 by oneleaf. For you .300 blk fags you can have profiles for your subs and supers. You can setup profiles for multiple guns or different barrels if your an xcr fag. The way they handle the lack of perceived nucing is brilliant. They fixed their qc mount, they listen to their users. They are taking steps backwards with their new mini imo. Would be amazing if they made a lt1000 minus the lrf. Dont waste your money on anything less than a 640. There are many decent monoculars to be had. If you have alot of money, wait for more 1280s. Otherwise 640s arnt going anywhere for a long time. I dont have a crystal ball but i dont see 640s getting as cheap as 384 units are now ever.
>>64721942I think they're unnecessary byah I don't see why they would have any detrimental effect
>>64721941i know that and you know that
>>64721236>>64721236Not much but some. I dont think dnt oems any of the shit they sell. Personally not a huge fan of the 3 in 1 and 4 in 1 units. If i want a coti i want a dedicated coti. If i want a tws i buy a tws. If i want a handheld i buy a dedicated handheld. That being said, its decent but nothing about it is cutting edge. As far as 640s go its on the lower end, but still very useable. Id be worried about poor qc, wouldn't buy it if i wasnt going to get out and start using it to make sure i didnt get a lemon and 2, durability. The buttons and shell didnt inspire the most confidence but it wasnt bad. Sorry this is a word salad i got very busy suddenly. One day (not using this trip cuz i wont remember it) i should do a write up on the history of uncooled thermals. I want to add i am not on the engineering side of things i deal more with the wireless and bluetooth side to experiment with “stream sniping” devices. Unless you need to show off on youtube or ig for your lively hood i would avoid wireless features. If you are new to all of this and arnt a big hunter i would steer people towards handheld monoculars. They are probably the most useful type of unit day or night, they are quick and easy to use, and they dont ruin your rifle buy putting a big fragile digital scope on it. Thats all i got for now, might pop in later if there are any other questions
>>64721947>lt1000Damn those are cheap low-key
>>64721847itsa meme from years ago after anon posted a urxr 3.1 brother
>>64721949But Wuggy doesn't know!!!! He doesn't KNOOOOOW
>>64721952It's an rtsp stream awayHow good are phones getting at breaking wpa2 on the fly if somebody's changed the default password?
>>64721958Once again I am left never knowing when A2 is joking because he is terrible at deliveryElong musketeers
>>64721901Duly noted, Mr Darkred
>>64721978I mean that one did make me laugh I'll give him that
>>64721969>trying to own A2 by making people aware he's some cybersecurity savant who has made more money than godthis is just silly
>>64721949>>64721959>mpvos on shorties >mk18s don't work past 50 meters>anon's guide to surviving the goonpocalypse Probably more but I don't rad wug posts. I feel like this general is especially retarded today. What is going on?
>>64721859Proofs?
>>64721991I'm tired and in-between shift days so I don't feel like shitposting too much
>>64721985The only thing he’s cracked is the code to getting bussy
>>64721995Thank God
>>64722000you say this like I shitpost non-stop when the most I do is send wuggy into blind rage
>>64721992The Royal Armouries discord group he posted in announced it. An heroed 2 days ago with no motive found.
>>64721995Are you drinking enough energy drinks?
>>64722007thought you were a different anon on that post tbqh
>>64722007>picking on the retarded kidYour parents should have raised you better
>>64722010He would never
>>64722011uh I had like a coffee and celsius so no>>64722012fair enough
>>64722011I need that mag well for my g17 g5 since I have an older frame with that stupid half moon cut out that annoys my pinky
>>64721942>Pls explain how my first ELCAN has the scratches then?Poor cleaning behavior rubbing rocks and sand on lens>Elcan glass is softer than spruceElcan bros what is our reply???
ACOn’t do what ELCAN
white boys ELCANt fuck you like A big black COGck can
>>64722010Welp, I just checked with them it’s real Pastebin is actually dead there’s also an obituary RIP dude
>>64722017Self inflicted so its fair game>>64722021> celsiusOf all the energy drinks (goyslop) you choose the absolute worst one
All I'm saying is I'd never fuck a dude who had an elcanYou have to own 0< elcans to cum in side me
Rest in peace pastebin :(
>>64722044makes a huge diff in comfort imo https://slrrifleworks.com/gen-5-19-23-half-moon-cut-magwell-edc/
>>64722098I was shopping it was the only thing they had in the cashier area, normally it's ghost
>>64722116More like grossIm just fucking around, i only have an occasional redbull like when i have to drive 900 miles
>>64722135can't hate on OG redbull. the white can flavor tastes like fucking blue cheese though
RIP PB
fuck me it's real
>>64722048>its a skill issueYeah I figured that's all you had
>>64722096Link it in the new OP then?
>>64722149Someone make the next thread in his honor.
>>64722159Dont forget my understanding of Mohs scale!
>>64722175I mean I don't even agree with him but yes sometimes a softer material can scratch a harder material"While unusual, a softer material can sometimes erode or damage a harder one through high force, friction, or microscopic displacement, rather than a direct scratch."
>>64722175>a2 doesn't understand how soft lead is wearing away at his chrome!!!truly a man of retardation so deep light can
>>64722243>>64722243>>64722243
>>64721967This is beginning to look like genuine autism.
