Plum Supremacy edition. Old thread: >>64863600
first for WASR 10
>>64884864Nice
Future note to self: don’t try and bake a thread at the gym. Shits to hard on an iPhone 13. AK Buyer's Guides>Rifleshttps://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/SimpleBuyersGuide>Magazineshttps://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/AK_Mag_Buyers_Guide#Quality
>>64884834Your format needs work; now go link it in the old thread, fren.
>>64884130>>64884155>>64884240 Reminds me of this Krink build swissfag posted to try and “own” me in one thread (yes, he thought this was a flex LMAO).
>>64885031Yeah. This rivet here is way undersized, you can see its the same size as the 5mm axis pin. This head in particular is only marginally bigger than the shaft (~4mm) A properly expanded head should nearly double the shank diameter. Just look at its size compared to the other rivet
>>64885061What happens if the rivets are undersized like that? Does it compromise the integrity of the reciver or just the trunnion?
For investment purposes:WASR or Zastava?
>>64885067There is greater risk of the the rivet becoming loose because there is less "head" keeping it clamped in place. Once a rivet becomes loose its liable to shear off and/or stretch out your receiver as it bounces around the hole under recoil. I also seriously doubt that any of those holes have been dimpled. Pic rel shows what happens when you stick a regular rivet into a dimpled hole. Something similar happens when the head is undersized
>>64885031>>64885061Just post your WBP, bro. That swissfaggot isn't going to fuck you, no matter how pretty your fit and finish is.>He's too busy ignoring Muslim rape gangs anyways.
>>64885075>>64885067heres an example of it happening
>>64885076>WBP Always seemed expensive for what you got, at least PSA guns will last way past 10’000 rounds even if they’re cheap ass nitrite barrels wear out. One of the things that bothered me about WBP was them saying “the service life of the rifle is 5000 rounds” an AK should WAY outlast the barrel life and Micah Mayfield‘s video showed his still running after 13,000 rounds. One of the reasons I bought it over a WBP and rielly defense’s AK74s. Here’s my hooptie rifle. I buy PSA stripped guns and put the furniture and triggers in myself, it’s about $200 bucks cheaper than buying a fully assembled rifle. Used parts from AoA for the dust cover, trigger and selector, (required a little bit of hand fitting but what guns don’t?) Anyway yeah here’s my poorfag 74.
>>64885137>perhaps I treated you too harshlyAt least you have a "crappy" 74. I don't even have that, I have to envy yours.Of course, I have almost zero want of a 74 but they're still cool. Just not my thing.>plum is dope though
>>64885074Why is either of these an investment?Buy a Valmet if you want an investment.WASR is fine, Zastava is fine. >Inspect your rifle, before you accept it.
>>64885180I like it pretty good, occasionally it will stove pipe once in a blue moon, but only when shooting 7N6. My guess is because PSA under gases them from the factory so they shoot better. They probably used 60 grain wolf as the test ammo during R&D. Soviet era ammo definitely less consistent than modern ammo, part of the reason OG AKs are so heavily over gassed, allowed for more deviation in powder consistency/weight. That actually makes me think, our overgassed guns a thing of the past? Sure having a non-adjustable gas block is cheaper and makes sense for a mass produced rifle and on a combat gun you’re generally going over gas to be on the safe side. But with as good as modern ammo is in terms of QC and consistency is it still necessary to have AK levels of gassing, especially with suppressors? Also ask this question because the VDV have complained that their new AK-12Ks with suppressors are way overgassed and it causes reliability issues at higher uncleaned round count. Anyway plum is a definite vibe though.
>>64885208Looking to sell it to someone who is too stupid for money when the next panic occurs>I once sold 4 pmags to a guy for $150
>>64885225>>I once sold 4 pmags to a guy for $150Damn, you must live in Colorado bro>t. Lived in Colorado and sold all my worst guns and accessories during the coof panic for like 400% profit margin.
>>64884834Will the Beryl handguard adapters ever come back in stock?
>>64885137Heres my stripped WBP, I had the same thought process as you but I know someone personally who had a bad psa. I still really wanna buy their 102 builder kit and run the fuck outta it. I think PSA and WBP make good guns to buy off the shelf and go have a bunch of fun with
>>64884834Of all the polymer furniture AKs, plum is my favorite color.
plum is cool
>>64885074Neither, buy a beryl.
>>64885317Already have 5.56 Beryl
>>64885489Alright then get an arsenal if you want an “investment” since they are no longer importing SLR series.
>>64885237bros Im worried. My state has started showing up on a bunch of "move here in 2026" lists. I don't want a bunch of ban state niggers moving here and shitting up local politics. NM and Colorado are like 6 hours away from me
>>64885074Zastava since they're more well put together and i definitely feel there are more WASRs and Dracos in America than Yugos
>>64885137>the service life of the rifle is 5000 roundswhat rifle were they talking about? Does anyone have a source on this and what it was in reference to? I don't know why they would ever say 5000 rounds because even the cheapest of unforged slop could probably keep firing rounds for that long
What's the deal with WBP these days? I haven't been on /akg/ in several years but bought a Fox back in 2021 when they were still imported.
>>64885965>>64885939Look at the last 3 threads. We dont need to shit up another thread be re-litigating it
>>64885074Neither.But technically WASRs are no longer imported now that Century ended their deal. Good luck convincing anyone who has a braincell your rifle is rare though.
>>64885288>run the fuck outta itBhahah good fucking luck. I bought one of the 102 builders kits. It made it 1200rnds before it started having some serious fucking issue that would deadline the gun and require disassembly of the bolt in order to remediate, after which it would only fire 10-15 rounds before the issue cropped up again. Pieces of shit toys. You ain't gonna run shit. Pretty well documented but something wears or shifts, headspace maybe getting fucked, and it starts blowing bits of primer into the firing pin channel which then seizes up the firing pin until you disassemble it, but then it just happens again. Well documented issue with the 5.56 PSA shit AKs. Sent it back to PSA... and you know what they did? They took like 70 fucking days because they re-barreled and redid the headspace by going through a box of random bolts and trying until they got one that passed. Absolute insanity. PSA is shit. WBP is shit. ISD is shit, Nova Modul is shit. IO Inch is shit. Riley is shit. Pioneer is shit. Zastava and WASR/ROMARM Cugir are acceptable. >>64885939Listen to this faggot yourself, fren:First link, this production manager soi shithead literally out loud claims that 5000 or 10k rounds is "near the end of life of the platform"WBP everybody...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne4aAYLfD_Y&t=95sSecond link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne4aAYLfD_Y&t=340sSame WBP moron claims that you need to use a stock that stiffens the receiver otherwise it can affect accuracy "sever issues regarding accuracy because you're changing the entire harmonics of the rifle" are literally his words... from using a polymer buttstock... Hilarious grifter gaslight shit that to mechanically illiterate reddit tranny faggots sounds convincing (same fags that love the NICE wood furniture!).>>64885965They're trash. They've always been trash. From when they were using cast trunnions, to now as they use machined from billet stock bolts and trunnions. >>64885972Too late.
>>64885994How many more conclusions have you racked up? Also any recs for a gunsmith in case I fuck up my builds as badly as you so regularly do?
>>64885980Century didn't end the deal with ROMARM, it was a contract negotiation issue on price per unit that was resolved like a year and a half ago. They're still being imported last I knew, and I can't find anything saying that they aren't being imported anymore.You can even check their import documents, they last had ROMARM imports in December 2025. For reference to compare, their last import from Nova Modul (company that makes the 9mm "AK"s like the WASR-M and Draco 9S) was November 2024, and their most recent import of Canik pistols was January 2026.
>>64885994Care to explain this?
>>64885972how about you just source it properly instead of repeating
>>64885994>production manager soi shithead literally out loud claims that 5000 or 10k rounds is "near the end of life of the platform"WBP says in the comments that he was mistaken and meant to say 50,000
>>64886247Thank you for reminding him again. He has brain damage so he keeps forgetting this crucial detail
>>64885820It’s going to happen, after all it is one of the three constants in life: death, taxes, and ever increasing gun control.
>>64885075>>64885084Why would you not use swell necked rivets when the trunnion holes and receiver holes are countersunk? Are they stupid?
>>64884864Based WASRchad>>64885308Based plumchad
>>64886723>Why would you not use swell necked rivets when the trunnion holes and receiver holes are countersunk? Are they stupid?Stupid? Probably. Some people don't do it because it takes extra effort/tools. PSA didn't with their initial AK runs. The Zastava was dimpled but the rivet was loose so it sheared off
WASR
>>64886737>it takes extra effort/tools.I use a steel ball bearing, didn't cost very much.
>>64884834>ISD Bulgaria making new stamped AKs I wonder if they'll try 5.45.
>>64886750>I use a steel ball bearingThis works for the front trunnion and fixed stock rear trunnions but you still have to make a support block for underfolder/sidefolder rear trunnions because its possible to bend/break the wings off if you don't support the back side. I made a mini jackscrew out of a bolt for mine. The thin metal might bend before the dimpling occurs if you don't use a support
>>64886761Good point I didn't consider that, I've only built basic bitch AKMs so far. Thanks for the heads up too - my next build is going to have a side folder.
>>64884864Based
>baby on the way>Virginia banning fucking everything anywayit was fun while it lasted i guess
>>64886772yeah you have to be careful. I slightly bent the first one I did just by hammering on it in my vice during demil.
>>64886789>bayonetnice. the lugs are ground off on mine so I can't mount one.
>>64887037I was very lucky and got a 10/63 with lugs back in 2017, the bayonet is even electric penciled serialed to the gun as well and came in the box
>>64886743I am still unsure if I like the way the Bonesteel stocks look on stamped AKs, makes them look like wannabe Galils in a way. An anon posted their SAM-5 with one a long time ago and I liked it on that though.
>>64887068Polish bipod?
>>64887353Yes
It do be like that Mr. Stancil
>>64887600Fuck this phone
>>64887600who is Will Stancil and why did Grok rape him?
tempted to get a JRA Gallant but it looks like they run badly in semi auto
>>64884834Luv me plumSimple as
KALASHKALASHKALASH NA*COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH*
>>64885994Why do you purposely spread misinformation? I dont care about you posting your opinions but spreading shit that has been corrected is fucked.
>>64888182>Why do you purposely spread misinformation?Because like all tripfags, he is a narcissist and can't ever admit to being wrong. He would sooner deny reality than accept correction from someone else
>>64888222It needs to just cool it with the cuckoldry and stop shitting up the general. For instance, post something meaningful or interesting for once
>>64886005Why do all of his guns end up with a crease over the rear trunnion lmao? What is this idiot doing? The receiver is always warped and the finish is gone at this specific location
>>64888236Like I said I'm fine with people shitting on things but it matters that they do it in a factual manner. WGWS is a net negative on the discussion here
>>64888240>why yes, I drilled the holes for the side mount myself, how could you tell?
>>64888267>why yes, I drilled the holes for the side mount myself, how could you tell?That's not even an excuse because I did it with a harbor freight drill. He's gotta be doing things with a vice or an air hammer because my dumbass is doing things better with chink tools. Wrong rivets too. Those are supposed to be counter sunk holes and it looks like he's put regular non swell neck dome rivets in there. You can tell because they're below the surface of the rail. Very interesting discoloration happening on the rear trunnion too.
>>64886247>>64888182Cope damage control because there ain't a way in hell their nitride barrels and non true forged components are making it 50k... In fact we know from legit military testing that nitride barrels depending on firing schedule will give the ghost up anywhere from 10-30k. >>64886756>$1000 for a commercial grade piece of trashThis is bait but I'll bite. ISD Bulgaria is a bullshit commercial spec shop making AKs using who knows what parts, but we do know that they are NOT the same as Factory Circle 10 Bulgaria Arsenal. The same way that WBP just pretends to be legit by virtue of being European and in proximity to the legit Polish Circle 11 FB Radom factory, ISD Bulgaria is relying on dumb casual reddit scum to be like oooh it is made in Bulgaria is must be good!>>64887600I used to have a WASR super similar to that. Almost 20 years ago now.
>>64888438>WBP doesn't use chrome lined barrels>if they do they're actually using reject FN barrels>Actually I don't know if they are but its possible>no I don't have any reason to think so
>>64885237I like the RPK-74M
Most reliable 5.56 ak?
>>64888487WBP DOES use nitride barrels on some of their guns by their own admission. That point has SOME validity to it, even if Wuggy is using it to move goalposts away from his false claims about cast parts.The product listings on their own site say the 5.56/5.45 rifles and the 5.56 pistols use nitride barrels, every single one of the models offered. The 7.62x39 rifles and pistol are generally the exception because they use FB Radom produced barrels, which is why they're chrome-lined and the others aren't. The only 7.62x39 rifle that isn't chrome-lined doesn't mention FB Radom in its description as well.You can check yourself, pic is all of the nitride barrel listings edited together and labelled with the product name so you can cross-reference them. It's on every 5.45 and 5.56 gun, and one single 7.62x39 gun.>>64888677Zastava M90 or build a Galil.Just buy an M90, Galil kits are expensive now.
>>64888677Galil ace
>>64888692>WBP DOES use nitride barrels on some of their guns by their own admission. That point has SOME validity to itit's no secret. Normally it's finish is stated in the description.
>>64889115Read my entire post, you just restated what I said.
>>64889127i was just curious why you think we don't know what you said. It's like going into the handguns general and saying Taurus is shite haha
>>64889137>why you think we don't know what you saidI explained where I found the information ("the product listings on their own site"), and you then tell me where that information is in different words. Yea, I know where it is, that's how I was able to say where the information I found and provided was from.That's why I think you didn't read the whole thing, because you don't need to tell me where the information is, which is proved by the content of the post, but you did anyway.
>>64889174and you thought people who look at the AK market obsessively don't know this
>>64889260Both parties in the conversation on barrels before me apparently are either unaware of the fact WBP uses both types of barrel, or was simply cherrypicking examples to support their point, so it's a 50/50 on if that specific anon and tripfag do or do not know this.
>>64885137Why do you post without a trip sometimes?
>>64885965Same as it was in 2021. Still the best ak ok the market under $1500.
>>64886712Oh you're demoralized.
>>64886710Nice! Saving that one for future :)
>>64889592>Still the best ak ok the market under $1500.WASR, and M70 can be bought under $1500, I would trust manufacturer that military contracts and not polish dogs.
